Marrying young

I want to marry as soon as possible (in order to have kids); how can I do that?

Stats: 21, 45k/year digital nomad income, white, speak some Russian, 6/10 physical attractiveness

I am thinking of moving to Moscow to try and find a girl. I visited it recently and liked it a lot, and made some good friends there. In addition I personally know of people who got married before 25 (even 18 or 20) in Moscow.

I am extremely pessimistic about finding a good girl to marry young in the Western world. Young women in the West are much more career-minded than marriage-minded and they are also immature. I am open to other non-Western places (for example, I think a niche is the extreme upper class in India where I already have some contacts; Indian women in general are ugly but not the upper 1% class in India).

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you seem inexperienced and these foren girls will take advantage of that.

Why do you spam it here idiot?

Live in Russia/Ukraine and find a good woman there. There is much less divorce rape in ex-USSR, so if she marries you, it will be for love.

Can you elaborate please? I feel like after having traveled for many months I am pretty cynical and pessimistic about human nature, and this includes most people (and most women) in any country. I can't say I like Russian girls are more intelligent or more appealing to me than the girls I know in the US, but I want to have kids sooner rather than later, which is generally not possible in coastal USA.

>be amerimutt
>be the cancer that kills the white rave
>move to whiter countries
>muttify them by breeding thier women
Gee i wonder why the white race is dying. Besides all russian women already imigrated to west to be prostitutes.

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Don't go for older women in search for someone more mature. One day you will wake up next to an old woman with excess emotional baggage from previous relationships and realise that you gave up growing up and experiencing "firsts" with a partner a similar/younger age to you.

Religious girls are more conservative and often promiscuity is frowned upon so they tend to be more family focused. If you want to have a family prepare to sacrifice everything in your life because if you want to be a good parent once they are in the world your entire life should revolve around them and your wife.

Career decisions (duty to provide), social outings (you may have to forgo many) and the list goes on. Those sacrifices are what makes you a good father, husband and ultimately a good man.

Think about if you are willing to sacrifice all of that. Otherwise you will leave fatherless children in a messy divorce. Further degrading the constitution of marriage, what little is left of its former meaning. Contributing to the mess of children who suffer at school and in life because they have no father and no discipline (nearly 70% of African American children are born into single parent families, look at the disparity it causes).

Young families are beautiful but society doesn't support them like it used too. If you think you can do it, find a woman that is willing to make the same sacrifices with you.

>21 yo
>I want to have kids sooner rather than later
no you don't. Seriously. Enjoy your freedom and then, maybe in your 30s, settle down.

Seems like you have the right idea, word of advice, Russian girls shit test all the time, just don’t cuck out and you should be good.

women age like milk, also worth mentioning

Kill yourself

Hope you've saved up for the divorce in which you will get cleaned out by your young Russian wife, if you try to hold out she'll send her brothers and cousins to persuade you to leave her the deed to the house, the car, the kids and anything else you may have thought was yours

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What exactly is your job that allows you to be remote? I'm thinking of moving to Chisinau

>Marrying young
>21
too late.

Also dont even get close to our country and stay away from our women you piece of shit.
sage

This.
What a fucking retard op

Pretty much

A sharp downwards turn

no you

I am actually a Russian-Israeli-Amerimutt (by origin anyway; I'm not sure what I am nowadays, but I'm not very Israeli anymore). There are some good women in Russia (more than in Israel for sure).

Thanks for the advice.

I work 12 hours a week and travel and have done a lot of drugs. My work is really easy and it will stay that way. I can't imagine what I'll do for the next 10 years if I don't have kids; travel and drugs are pretty strong experiences that are hard to surpass (but I would like to have kids for sure).

Private tutor. Have my own students.

Russian men are physically, mentally and _spiritually_ unattractive and pathetic. shut the fuck up

i will kill any amerimutt who comes to my land

ewww, (ex)-junkie. Russian women don't like junkies.

>Russian men are physically, mentally and _spiritually_ unattractive and pathetic. shut the fuck up
yeah, fuck you too, twat. Enjoy your AIDS.

>Russian-Israeli-Amerimutt
kike

why? I like Russia a lot. I am the type of amerimutt who can live anywhere and yet is deciding to live in russia :)

well, a lot of psychedelics, and nothing besides that. I am anti drugs (including psychedelics); however, unlike 98% of people I can handle my psychedelic drugs, so fuck you

>memeflag

Just marry a western girl, bro. You’re not going to find your unicorn in Russia or Eastern Europe

Why would you go to this shithole though?

Do it online

>Israeli
you are way too cocky for a bar of soap. Your nation's existence is a mistake of people who are better than you.

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very difficult to do at a young age in the west.

I liked it; it would be interesting and pleasant for me to live there. With my income it's a very pleasant place compared to almost any Western city.

I don't care about Israel or Jews

Well nothing worth having comes easy. Will it really be easier to move halfway across the world then to find a woman to marry locally? If so, I don’t think location is your problem

Yes, it will be easier. My problem isn't really with dating; it's specifically with young marriage and having kids at a young age. The types of girls I like in the West are independent/career-minded, and it's not possible to do that with them. I don't know if you have traveled much; if you have not, you could travel to a place such as Russia and see how the culture is different with regards to marriage.

Bad choice, user. I have 40k$ in Ukraine (top 5% percentile), perfect Russian, good English, phisical attractiveness is sort of yours (normal face, shitty height), but no marriage. Downshifting won't make you special here, because even top locals can't cope with the culture of young sluts. They start their cock carousel at 13-14, and do you hope to find anyone of your age and create a stable family? No fucking way. You had to be enlightened Chad at that age to snap a qt3.14 and start living a life of family man. Too late, user. Let alone in EE.

I understand what you're saying. My experience is that in Moscow there are girls in my social circles (which is usually Lomonosov-tier students/alumni) who did not have a "cock carousel" phase (just like I know some girls like that even in the US). I am especially wary of the deceptiveness of Eastern European women (they are just white women after all), but what's better? In the US the good girls don't want to marry young at all (and if they do it's a guy they dated for many years during university, something I won't get to do as I graduated from university a few years ago).

Anyway, I guess I'll find out if I go to Moscow in September.

>marrying a russian whore
retard

I know 95% of Russian women are whores. In the US it's quite a bit worse; there is an entire cultural shift. Do you really think the US is better? Come on.

>digital nomad
cringe

A place of worship and community.
I married at 20. I'm still married 12 years later.

I don't interact with any other people doing that, but it's the most obvious term for what I do (if I stay in one country for long than expat would be better).

Unfortunately I am atheist and I can't do that. Well, I am into transhumanism and a few communities related to that; that has a few traits of a religion and a community (and a shared ideology that most people don't have). But that's the only idea I have; other communities wouldn't work for me personally.

You are very ignorant about their cock carousels. No matter how intelligent they are, they all start to fuck very early, you may thank your media agenda which spread here in 90s. So it doesn't matter whether you find a whore here or elsewhere. The result is the same: divorce, coffin, coffin, graveyard, pidor.
In this regard, I suggest that you look for your destiny not in Moscow, but rather any other big city. Moscow is doomed.

Я бы вooбщe eмy пocoвeтoвaл иcкaть тян в дpyгих cтpaнaх. Лyчшe в бeлapycких, в yкpaинcких или в пoльcких пpoвинциaльных гopoдaх. B Poccии нaйти нopмaльнyю жeнщинy для coздaния ceмьи - зa гpaнью peaльнocти. Иcпopчeны вooбщe вce.

И yж тoчнo нe cтoит иcкaть в бoльших гopoдaх.

I don't know man. I've heard similar things from Russian men, but I already know EE girls have sex at a young age and all the other things. I don't think super highly or anything of EE women; as I mentioned in the OP, I would also be fine with women even from India. For all these comments about EE women I've heard from EE men, I've never heard them compare it to the situation in the US.

In the social circles I'm in in Moscow I think it's fine. I would agree with you generally (and maybe for any country), but in the social circles I'm in in Moscow it was quite fine. I don't have these social connections in other places in EE (I know maybe like 1 person in piter).

hahaha

You talk about immaturity, but this is some young Jow Forums incel fantasy of finding their white mommy to breed.

I live in Russia the majority of the time. And, let me tell you, making a connection deep enough to have a long-lasting marriage with someone from another, different country is very tough. The language barrier alone is a HUGE deal. Your girl speaking B1-broken English is not good enough. And, your Duolingo Russian is not enough for a happy relationship.

There's also a lot of cultural differences between America and Russia.

Not to mention the fact that you're both going to be taking advantage of each other (i.e. she is primarily marrying you because you're American).

Also, stay out of my country, REEEEEEEEE

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women are the same everywhere, and the ones that would marry a foreigner arent trad for sure.

Yea, don't idealize foreigners. They'll golddig you. We're always happier when language is not a problem. Why not a rural American cutie? You seem to have everything you'd need.... Except the balls to flirt?

>Young women in the West are much more BBC-minded

fixed

>good English, phisical attractiveness

You had one job, Alexey

>advocates for pedophilia in russia

oh wow shocking

How'd you get the students to tutor?

Would you have another tutor work online, sort of like an unofficial business?

best thing would be religious, know the family, and they be ok with it. still you can get divorced because the jews demand it's availability

>Israeli
kike

>why? I like Russia a lot. I am the type of amerimutt who can live anywhere and yet is deciding to live in russia :)

you act like you're doing everybody a favor. what do you bring other than a colonizer's passport? you say yourself you're not super physically attractive, your personality is evidently not great, and you're also not super rich (and, the way you're making your money isn't something that will be able to employ other Russians)

you're just a generic imperialist gweilo looking to get get your nut off and exploit a weak economy

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>MUST FIND VIRGIN WIFE
dog, just find someone you're compatible with
the reason why you're not married is because you actually use phrases like "cock carousel"

I'm sure there is some female bandera-bro out there for you to smash and make more ukronazi spawn

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>Chisinau
Stay away from Moldova and Romania, we all full gypsies and mutts, there's no point to come here

>Unfortunately I am atheist and I can't do that.
Then I am sorry to say but you are, almost certainly fucked in the relationships department. I wish you the best of success.

Russian was my first language; I speak it fine (my biggest issue is accent and lack of advanced vocabulary). But I agree with you here.

"There's also a lot of cultural differences between America and Russia"

I'm not sure I'm American culturally (or what that even means). In Russia I was able to meet my peers culturally and mentally (just like in India). I feel like I fit in Russia and America roughly the same amount perhaps.

"she is primarily marrying you because you're American" I wouldn't view that as the "primary" reason, more of a sort of catalyst/etc.

All the concerns you've mentioned are valid, but I've already thought about them and I'm still interested in trying out Russia (and if it goes well and I meet a girl I like, then there's that).

I advertise online (paid ads and so forth). I'm the only tutor for now.

shut the fuck up fag

I know, but whatever. I will figure out something that works best for me.

protect yourselves from the white horde, my vampire friends

they are coming

Tough luck, pal. Women generally don't want to marry young. They want that long carousel ride until they reach late 20's to early 30's. If you go to Russia to find a trad girl, the american faggot you are, you most likely will find a gold digger that will ruin your life.

>white horde
>NEETs americans
Are you sure about that

Liberal Russian girls are conservative/traditional relatively speaking for coastal parts of the US.

the pasty school shooters are coming to remove our swarthiness

you know there are a lot of true leftists here, yeah? my city, in siberia, has a large vegan community, pro-LGBT movement, active communist party, etc

even the bodegas sell ethically-sourced oat-based milk lmao

yeah, there are a lot of Jow Forums-tier Russian women who will scream about the fags and Muslims, but you evidently haven't been here long enough to find the liberals

and, again, my city is nothing compared to a place like Saint Petersburg

Don't know Americans had a taste for gypsy booty but whatever I don't judge them

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My social circles in Moscow include a bunch of trannies and gays (who take uber to avoid getting beaten up in the metro). But the girls in those communities you mention are more conservative/traditional than the large majority of girls in the coastal cities in the US. The entire culture is shifted between the West and Russia.

I wouldn't be surprised if I just have great social circles in Moscow, so whatever. Anyway, I won't be asking people for advice in the future (I forgot that when I made this thread). The only interesting thing I got from this thread is the Ukrainian who mentioned the girls "ride the cock carousel" young, which is something that is hard for me to tell just by traveling to a place; everything else in this thread I already knew or thought about.

You seek something that has gone out of the world. You want what people had in the 1950's. You're not going to find it in Russia or anywhere. Hard truth--but that is where we are in this failed world.

desu though fuck off kike. you and the other posters have no clue why Russia interests me as opposed to the US

I know people who have married at around 20 in Moscow (I know them personally). sorry

Romanian chicks are kind of like Hispanics, in the sense that most of the are ugly, but the few women that are attractive among them have an incredible kind of natural beauty that is extremely rare in Western women.

>digital nomad
>marry and have kids
pick one
you have to settle to have a quality woman and kids

Agree (though I think occasional vacations later would be fine). But if I stay in the US, it would happen at 30+ (this is the reality in coastal/well off USA), and the woman wouldn't be better than what I can get now.

>this is the reality in coastal/well off USA
get out of that coastal cancer of your country then

Are you retarded enough to have bought into the idea that slav girls are traditional? Not only are they whores, they're also extremely loud, aggressive and emotionally unstable. They're like half niggers, just like the men.

just move inwards to meet other retards like you??

>cali and ny suck so bad
>man i sure love the great economies and infrastructure they have and everything is really good so i don't wanna move but they suck so bad

I'm not talking about political ideology. I'm talking about how the female mind works. She'll fuck you over once she gets a green card and can drain you out of your resources. That's a bigger probability than finding a soul mate on the other side of the world aftergoing there with the specific intention of finding one. Women are women everywhere and broke slav girls are not an exceptions, neither are the gooks the weebs salivate over.

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>I know people who have married at around 20 in Moscow (I know them personally). sorry

t. anecdotes over statistics

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_age_at_first_marriage

if you can't get me fortnite points I'M NOT IN

>digital nomad
What?

And aaaaaall you gotta do is HRT, right?

It's not like the women are better outside of these parts of the US. The only people who marry young in the US are 18-22 year olds from some small town type areas in the US, and these are not people I have much in common with usually. No way.

fuck off. how old are you? 30? 40? you're still here? this is my first time on Jow Forums in a few years
In the US it's impossible

I am aware of this risk. I am also aware that even if that doesn't happen, a girl can change once she lives in a different country (aka moving to US from Russia). I'll see what I think once/if I move to Moscow in September.

A noble goal, but dude, go to church. Try multiple churches in your area, specifically the more fundamentalist ones to find girls to wife up and start pumping out white babies.

go to an orthodox church then

If you're serious about doing it, you should look at smaller cities to have a higher chance of success. Moscow and St. Petersburg are very globalistic in it's nature. Good luck.

athiest transhumanist kike

Thanks. For Moscow the social circles I have access to are good (perhaps the women in my circles are very different than most women in Moscow, and that wouldn't surprise me).

trust me friend, you DONT want to marry a russian girl, especially at the age of 21

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how about you just go ahead and find out :):):)

>I am thinking of moving to Moscow to try and find a girl.
hahahahahahaha

Western women are busy exploiting their sexual market value and dont even think about it until late 25+.
You might be attractive to 30+ roasties panicking about their biological clock and looking to settle down, but their hypergamy typically points them at older higher earning men (who have better options).
It's worth creating dating app profiles and pointing out you want to settle down and have kids... but I suspect you'll just get single mothers who fucked up and now need an income.

Let him go and learn or own skin, one shitposting retard less - win for all

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Pajeets are definitely right for you, you fucking crypto-mutt. Or perhaps Californian or Canadian Chinks?

>Russian reality

LMFAO

would get beaten and killed outside the only 24/7 policed area in russia

Stay away from my country you goddamn pendos.

early marriage guarantees divorce, especially if you are young man in eastern europe. If you marry someone your age, she is 100% guaranteed to have no less than ten cocks before you. Moreover, women are psychologically older than men of their age (means they hop on cock carousel and consider it life-chahging experience).
source: dated 23 y.o. Russian, she was divorced and had 4-5 relationships after it.
I advise you to wait till 25 at least and marry 19-20 y.o. 4-5/10. Marriage is not about looks, it's about loyalty and understanding, with the latter almost impossible for foreigner like you

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Your knowledge is 10-15 years out of date.
Pic related is a mayor of a Russian town.

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Hey, the problem is that Moscow, just like any other capital, is the center of thot migartion. So as an American (and considering your lack of knowledge as well) you should be very conserned about the possibility of being bewitched as an easy target for gold-digging-thots.

My advice - get aqcuainted with few Russian lads and let them help you with everything. We are very well-wishing generally, esp. for white conservative folks.

It's true that we have a lot of good, not brainwashed, not degenerative ladies, and I personally don't mind if you come here and propagate good traditional values. You will have a lot of friends here. The true ones, not the American-type. Godspeed.

Fuck off kike.

Find a single one:
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>whiter countries
What? Russia is not whiter than the US, not to say Moscow where pure ethnic Slavs are a 10% minority

>Moldova
I'm Romanian and I want to make like 90k a year programming remotely so I can live there like a king and beat the shit out of the Russian diaspora

>I am actually a Russian-Israeli-Amerimutt
Why not start with this, subhuman? I've spent 3 minutes of my life reading your incel fantasies.