The US military is still focused on a pre-2001 world

In this world, Russians are bad, the Chinese are backwards commies, Europe is America’s hoplite auxiliary troop pool and the world is waiting for America’s military to drop bombs whereever Lockheed and Boeing want them to be dropped.

Meanwhile, China, Russia and now even Europe are focusing on a multipolar globe in 2035.

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oh yeah liberals are stuck in the year 2008

That would be great if our European allies could actually develop anything useful. We're getting tired of subsidizing you're security.

Can they build a viable 6th gen stealth fighter without bankrupting themselves?
Seems more like a negotiation tactic to me desu.

>security

You realize that we have tens of thousand ex-ISIS fighters in Europe because of your Iraq invasion and the Arab spring your CIA caused?

Not to even mention the 4 million refugees from all the wars you started.

The US invested massively in the F-35 with the assumption that other countries would buy it though.

A 6th gen fighter jet costs as much to develop as you want to pay. If you want to pay 1 trillion then it costs that much. If you want to pay 20 billion, it costs that much.

I mean how different is that from multipolarity?

Under your version of unipolarity, Russia and China are the bad guys, and Europe is a headache.

Vs the new multipolar world, where Russia and China are the bad guys, and Europe is a headache.

you do realise that Germany and Italy are forbidden from militarising as much as the US? part of the peace agreement between the allies and the axis was that the US will provide security in return for a tame Europe.

We prevented the unipolar world from happening
Murkans still try to pretend they are the only pole though and it keeps exploding in their face with turkey, china, iran, india, huawei and so on
Very fun to watch

In this world you have multiple poles with multiple alliances.

China- Russia has an uneasy alliance.

China-EU has an uneasy alliance.

USA-EU has an uneasy alliance.

USA-Russia are reluctant enemies.

USA-China are open enemies.

Russia-EU are former allies and now reluctant limited trade partners.

Etc.

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Generation is meaningless term at this point. The F-35 is designed from the outset to be constantly upgraded with the latest tech for next 30+ plus years.

Is America actually paying for Europe security? And how much? Or it is Europe buying American weapons?

No, you have tens of thousands of ex-isis fighters because Merkel is too big of a pussy to defend german citizens from an unchecked mob of migrants.

You didn’t have to take them, kraut. You may or may not remember Germany being split in half by commies, yeah, you’re welcome.

You and Israel are our greatest allies; thanks for Kandahar faggot

Yes, and it's time for that to come to an end. The day US hegemony collapses is the day jewish hegemony collapses.

I want to see a stealth delta wing plane. Kinda disappointed that your mock up looks like an f-22

Trade you some spics for some Azhkanazi qt3.14’s

>If you want to pay 20 billion, it costs that much.
You're not gonna R&D a real 6th gen fighter for 20b

Funny how none of the other wars caused a massive migrant crisis. Maybe that’s because you aren’t obligated to take in migrants? Hmm? Maybe that is just some bullshit globalist lie you’ve bought into and are now repeating so you can blame your governments failures on someone else.

Side note: your government is a puppet government of the US so you could blame our influence since WWII for your shit decisions... but our government is run by them as is yours and your government is a puppet of our government but both are dominated by them. Blame who you want.

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i pass, i can give you Ethiopians for free

Then hurry up and get to it, pax americana is a blight on this world

You chose to bend over and offer them your sovereignty. You chose to elect Merkel how many times? You can get pissed off at the rain but if you're the one putting holes in your own roof then its your fault alone when you get wet.

>inviting ISIS fighters into Europe
kinda did it to yourself

Enough with the Ethiopians we are full damn bro stop

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Why did they write a similar article exactly 1 year earlier?
>Then
>nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/france-germany-have-plan-build-stealth-6th-generation-26389

>Now
>nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/f-35-so-2001-france-and-germany-want-their-own-6th-generation-stealth-fighter-63847


>Smith opines the intakes suggests “speed may be limited to Mach 1.6,” which happens to be the F-35’s maximum speed.
>However, France and Germany do not plan to purchase F-35s, and the FCAS seems to reflect an interest a balanced multirole fighter suitable both for air-to-air and deep penetration missions, while boasting the F-35’s emphasis on networked warfare.
Seems to be just another F35-type plane.

>B-b-but the US was killing a small fraction of them. We had to! It’s the US’s fault that we compromised our security for the betterment of historical enemies

You forgot about Trump wanting a multipolar world. Brainlet.

you have no idea what you're talking about, space force dude, to protect the space mining industry and keep shit nations like England India and Israel out of it entirely

only nations with a global defense network can control the space mining industry, that means USA, Russia and China will lead

>because of your Iraq invasion and the Arab spring your CIA caused?
they work for the Gotha queen who is from Germany so take care of that retarded problem yourself

Top speed is irrelevant. Traveling above Mach 1 burns way to much fuel and kills your stealth because you know have a giant fireball coming out your exhaust.

All new fighters are designed to shoot missiles traveling at Mach 4 at enemy aircraft before they ever show up on radar.

There's literally nothing to this other than the F-35 is a complete piece of shit waste of money. It's yet another thing the bankers are using to print money to put the US in more debt while giving all that money to friends in the military/national security complex. They just print money and give it to themselves.

What the F-35 really is, is yet another canary in the coal mine for the US. We do not have a sustainable system. Printing money and giving it to a select club of people around DC is not sustainable.

I know a retired AF colonel whose squadron was flying F-16s and crushed the F-35 in air-to-air. The F-35 is a complete joke and unbelievable expensive piece of trash. America is trash.

>expensive multirole stealth jets to bomb random sand people and their goats.
Can someone explain to me why we design overpriced aircrafts for asymétric warfare?

Turn off your proxy Ivan.

>you're
goddamnit

>the F-35 is a complete piece of shit waste of money
it's just a modified F16 bro

>All new fighters are designed to shoot missiles traveling at Mach 4 at enemy aircraft before they ever show up on radar.
I know the rational. I'm just not sure this will actually happen

>Alongside the RC drones, MBDA has also suggestively displayed a “Hard Kill Active Protection System”—basically a munition designed to smack down incoming anti-aircraft missiles. This marks a different approach from the laser-based Active Protection Systems due to begin testing with the U.S. Air Force.
I think anti-(anti-aircraft-missiles) might become very weak in the future. There is lots of development in this field and these APS work flawless against RPGs already.

"Europe" won't be a thing in 2035 unless you go 10x harder than Japan currently is into robots (won't happen) or you somehow convince the migrant hordes to integrate and work hard to pay for your retirement (DEFINITELY won't happen).

EU is fucked, China is aging rapidly too, Muttland will definitely be fucked in 50-100 years or so when whites can no longer hold the ship together, but this is still our century.

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I bet your dad was the senior designer or something because if not then you have no idea about it's capabilities.
Not denying it being a jewish money pit but that doesn't mean it can't actually be a fine plane

>it's America's fault that our leader says "Come on in niggers!"
"no"

>Top speed is irrelevant. Traveling above Mach 1 burns way to much fuel
i wouldn't say it's irrelevant. being fast, especially when high, gives missiles longer reach. and two of the century series fighters could "supercruise". current airframes need afterburner to be in mach because they were designed to do the em dogfight without bleeding so much energy. probably the f-16 is the ultimate expression of that

but i'm a guy who suspects one of the less exotic black projects is a stealthy very fast high flying bvr platform. i read somewhere that the a-12 did a kill from some retarded altitude like 80k on a target at 500ft, in the 60s

Development cycles on modern aircraft are really long. They also don’t have a legacy of previous stealth research to draw on like we do.

Which is unnecessary when the enemy doesn't even know you exist until a missile is shooting towards him.

Macros-style missile spam will become real in your lifetime

They're planning on using the R&D BAE and Dassault did when developing their stealth drones.

A 1 trillion dollar jet fighter would be sick.
That bitch better be able to fly to the moon and back.

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Japan is in a similar situation. When we asked them if they wanted to cancel that agreement, they refused because they wanted US troops in their borders. Germany and Italy are no longer considered a danger and they could ask the US to leave at any time, but they don't because they want US protection.

So you'd need dozens of missiles to shoot down a single jet?

Stealth is a meme. Nothing is invisible below 1GHz radar frequency.

If the F-16s somehow got into dogfighting range I believe it. The thrust to weight ratio and wing loading ratio of the F-16 are much better

i'm not discounting stealth but disagree with the tendency to view it as a panacea

If the jet had enough APS munitions on board.

Lower frequencies on radars introduce other limitations in the radar system. Everything in engineering is a compromise.

>Lower frequencies on radars introduce other limitations in the radar system.
Like what?

At 1GHz we're still at 30cm of wavelength. Something like that can easily fit on a fighter-jet radar.

We achieved the apex of terrestrial flight decades ago, the US already has a squad of space fighter drones. Germany/EU are the retards that think atmospheric flight is still important.

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US cybersecurity is a joke. They are getting BTFO by the Chinks and Russians.