Why do Conservatives like Corporatism over Capitalism?

Fippity bippity libertarian retards need to stfu

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>could not even do a (((wiki))) search
wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism
“Corporatism is a political ideology which advocates the organization of society by corporate groups, such as agricultural, labour, military, scientific, or guild associations on the basis of their common interests.[1][2][3] The idea is that when each group performs its designated function, society will function harmoniously — like a human body (corpus) from which its name derives.”

Go the fuck back to Jow Forums libertarian retard

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It's literally boomers and their cancerous "fuck you I got mine" mentality that conservatives have and which ruined america

Corporatism privatises gains and socialises losses.
Capitalism privatises both gains and losses.
Nobody likes losses.

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Are retards just going to try and steal the word corporatism, and try to change it’s meaning?

That wikipedia entry doesn't contradict him though. It describes the same thing he describes.

It literally does not though. Fascist Italy had a corporatist economy, and who ran that state? Businessmen or the Fascists?

>Corporatism over Capitalism
They are the same thing

>the company becomes
successful
>someone else has a better idea..
And how exactly do you make this happen instead of
>the company uses its wealth
?

Corporations are businesses that receive limited-liability protections from the government. They're inherently anti-capitalist.

You see this is an example of liberal idealism.
People in this thread think that since they can imagine a definition of capitalism that does not result in the companies who accumulate wealth using it to their advantage to destroy competition, that the problem is solved. That the very act of pointing out the idea they have dreamed up somehow makes everything ok, makes capitalism work again, and fixes the issue.

But this idea is an impossibility, as we have determined over a century ago. People act in their own self interest, and there is no way to construct a reality where that successful company using its wealth to gain power over government and suppress competition is in that companies self interest. You cant regulate it, because they are the ones with power over government, they effectively have become integrated into the government structure because they can use that wealth to make any, or most, elected politicians own self interest be take the money from them, and simply make token actions or excuses to the angry population.
It is that accumulation of wealth that causes it, as long as wealth can accumulate the holder of it will use that wealth to secure their own position.
This is a problem capitalism can not get around.

The first thing those who accumulate wealth do under capitalism is secure control of government.
You cant do capitalism with out government because government is needed for capitalism to work, as one of the qualities of capitalism is legal-enforcement of ownership via state violence, as opposed to personal enforcement via mercenaries or personal armies as it was in feudalism.

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>You cant do capitalism with out government because government is needed for capitalism to work, as one of the qualities of capitalism is legal-enforcement of ownership via state violence, as opposed to personal enforcement via mercenaries or personal armies as it was in feudalism.
American Monarchy when?

Also I think you and I actually agree it just sounds different because we're using different definitions of the same terms

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>Why do Politicians like Corporatism over Populism?
Fixed your labels for you. Easier to answer now, isn't it?

The problem is, Capitalism is inevitable. Notice that every Socialist state practices a degree of capitalism, whether it be through small businesses (Cuba, Vietnam, Venezuela) or large monopolies (China) This is called state Capitalism, the Soviet Union never gave the means of production to the worker because the economy required intense regulation so larger businesses did not form, so the state ended up owning everything until they reformed back to small business state capitalism.

leave it to a syrup slurping moose fucker to completely not understand how supply and demand works

Stay in school, faggot

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Jesus Jow Forums has gone full retard lately. Corporatism is organizing the laborers into work groups.

>DERRR YOU DONT HAVE "SKILLS"!!!! DERRR!!!!

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It's a pretty easy systemic fix. You shouldn't be able to limit your liability without also limiting your rights.

No, corporatism is just a business hack that allows you to risk some of your money without risking all of your money.

Corporatism goes farther than you realize.
The government gets to design infrastructure. That makes sense.
But then the government designs the infrastructure simply to provide the largest mobility of employees and the mass centralization for producers- creating suburbs to feed roads to feed automobiles to feed the Corporate demand for the largest pool of labor.

Why does "Capitalist" America have the highest number per capita of chronic diseases?
Because it's profitable and the Government is paid to support it.

It's true. The modern deranged liberal is the disease they allowed to infect our society.

Idk about you, but no ones forcing me to buy an Xbox or a ps4. I straight out bought a PC for my gaming needs.

"Real capitalism has never been tried.
This is boomer cope.

>chronic diseases
80% of these are pharma scams, and the other 20% are only "chronic" because you'd already be dead without western medicine.

>currently in the USA
you dumb trumptard

>not understanding labor engagement rates
>being this economically illiterate

must be tough being a loser all the time, bruh. soz

Corporatism isn't doesn't mean when corporations run everything, that would be a kind of plutocracy (which capitalism is).

Corporatism is a fascist idea that advocates the organisation of the economy into interest groups representing different industries and professions, e.g a doctors corporation, a carpenters corporation, a bakers corporation that basically serves to communicate between the state and the labourers. It's more like syndicalism (which is a socialist philosophy) than it is like the kind of capitalism we have now.

The confusion comes from the fact that both "corporation" in the sense of "an incorporated business" as we use it in the west and "corporation" as a kind of labour-union as it's used in fascist ideology comes from the same Latin root.

Literally never said that. When the US government was smaller there was very much a capitalist environment. Gov spending however, has grown from ~10% of gdp to 30+% in the last 100 years. It's now to the point where the gov decides which businesses get to grow and which barely get by. Just look at the deals between the US Postal Service and Amazon. The government decided that Amazon was going to be THE successful online store.

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stop using the word “capitalism”, it is communist terminology

That's not what OP is talking about, of course, but yes, the archaic definition of corporatism is the only useful form of post-tribal identity politics that has ever existed.

right applies to most european countries
american should be glad they don't live in a corporate hellhole like Germany

Any economic system fails when bribery is allowed.

You guys are confusing Corporatism with Oligarchy.

Your point is not wrong. Just get your terms straight otherwise you sound like a retard.

They’re literally the same thing.

Meme fails because manipulating the government IS a better idea.

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