What went wrong?

What went wrong?

During the late 80s, Japan was a booming powerhouse. They were #2 in GDP, beating China, Brazil, UK, and Germany, all countries with major advantages over Japan either in geography, population, or not getting nuked twice in WW2.

Japan was literally taking over major industries in the United States and showed no signs of stopping. This was emphasized in many of the movies that came out during that era.

Then all of a sudden the 1990s recession and the 1997 Asian Financial crisis hit, and Japan never recovered ever again. Their population also never recovered afterward.

inb4 it was the jews.

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They made themselves wealthy, raised a bunch of idiot kids and then got old. The idiot kids couldn't sustain the world their parents built.

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The only research I've done is skim a wikipedia article on the subject. It seems for similar reasons to why the GFC happened and why my country's economy is about to get fucked, a real estate bubble. People putting tons of money in real estate even though it's non-productive, eventually the bubble bursts and drags down the entire economy with it.

shits happening everywhere. We're also seeing useless companies get bundles of cash for no reason. Meanwhile our dumb politicans are investing not on infrastructure, or any long term development projects, nope, they're throwing it at useless low IQ immigrants

nothing went wrong this is a natural population curve.

automation will solve everything soon
declining population actually is a good thing as there'd be less annoying people

>What went wrong?
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>They got wealthy
>They created the typical pension ponzi
>The idiot kids now had to work the same as their parents but pay 10x more taxes
>The idiot kids could not buy houses due to their high prices
>The idiot kids never had kids

Maybe creating intergenerational ponzi schemes is not a good idea.

Because Japan was a bubble that popped. What is so hard to understand about that? They played a game and they lost against the Jew.

This, state funded pensions are evil and should be abolished. Save for your own retirement or die working.

Real estate is productive, but people weren’t using for its productive purpose but rather for avaricious speculation.

>oh, I love PROJECTIONS

Remember this one in pic related? The German population is officially reaching 84 million next year, btw.

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Who will fill all of the empty jobs.
They need African immigrants soon

Yeah, that's actually a much better response.

demographics

>German population

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Yes but Keynsian propaganda is too strong as the politicians have a lot to loose.

Just look at this video my fello argenanon posted.

He may not realized it but he posted a piece of keynsian propaganda created by the same motherfuckers that have been pushing (((quantitative easing))) since 2008 and have caused the current housing bubble that is destroying the youth.

The problem with every high is that after it comes the withtdrawal.

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Nothing went wrong.

Population can't increase forever.

god i want to kill those imf niggers

There's literally nothing wrong with population decline.
8 billion is too much if it could drop to 3 or 4 billion naturally through low birthrates by 2100 that'd be great.
But it won't since only Whites/East Asians are declining and the population correction will therefore happen via mass third world starvation instead.

japan is horrifically overcrowded. population decline is a good thing for them.

pretty sure we have 80 million mexicans in los angeles alone. can you take me back?

How many people can you squeeze in a tiny Island?

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what do the red dot areas in africa look like

Japan has had a low birth rate for a long time, user, it is not like Korea. They've been below replacement since the 1960s. This is just the point where it is finally kicking in since everyone lives really long there.

I’m not reading a reasonable answer yet.
Japan was dominating. Their technology was best in class. Today it is still good but hasn’t improved at the rates of past decades.

One anecdote. Sony once made the best in every consumer electronic. Roughly 25 years ago, I bought the kids Sony stereos. They were shit quality. Something had changed in their corporate culture.

Second anecdote. Wife must have Lexus. Existing car was 12 years old. New Lexus is mediocre. Not much better, in fact noisier, less engine performance than 12yo. The technology improvements seem to be slowing down, reversing.

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This, population decline is a self-solving problem. It will increase the wages of labor and then people will feel economically comfortable to have children boom child increase. After the Black Death in Europe there was a gigantic population boom because labor was more valuable then it ever had been in the past. But capitalists are only concerned in the here and now so they flip out if there isn't constant growth and so now you have artificial population growth by importing the entire third world.

Japanese post-WW2 baby boomers are dying

That looks like Wakanda

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That's how a city would look in africa if they where ingenous enough/ powerful thinkers. Still looks like a shithole but it would be neat.

This is what the Jew tells you. The fact is the human population must expand. It did so for 500 years straight for white people after the plague. Its only dying due to the breakdown of the family unit and cultural norms.

central banking. The Japanese bank lent freely and when contraction happened the country ended up with a bunch of unproductive ("zombie") corporations that had to be kept afloat despite being unable to dig themselves out. There's also some horseshit about the jap bank not slashing interest rates dramatically enough in the first few weeks, but in reality the poison was they spiralled into debt over deadweight assets. I also suspect their marketshare was significantly overvalued and that the only place the Japanese economy could go was backwards at that point

>The fact is the human population must expand.
Well good news, the nigger population will quadruple in the next 80 years, and they'll probably be heading our way.

Nothing went wrong. Eventually they stopped expanding, which is normal because infinite growth is not physically possible.

>10x the population of California
>about same size land mass but 75% is unlivable mountains
>imports a huge percentage of its food
Continuous growth isn't sustainable and should not be a goal. A slight reduction in population followed by sustain is a much better long term plan.

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what went wrong exactly? you think reproducing like rabbits until we all die of starvation or start eating each other is a good alternative?

But it was the jews.
Emperor Hirohito steadfastly refused invitations into a number of globohomo orgs, including induction into masonry which MacArthur attempted and failed to bring him. Yes, after the war no longer the head of state but he remained highly influential.

Then he dies.

And his son, who is a mason takes over.
Suddenly powerhouse zaibatsus are "failing" and the tokyo metro real estate market starts fucking up. The only solution is (((mergers))) with western mega conglomerates. From banking to auto manufacturing.

Fuck, Renault taking over Nissan is a good example.

Don't mind flag. Burger expat.

thx man, I laughed so hard.

Niggers aren't human. Whites and east Asians are self sustaining cultures and can forever expand. This is why all the rural communities, all the frontier states were founded and still are mostly white. The first men on the moon were white. Whites can sustain. Niggers cannot.

Only decent answer here. The trannies on here have been domesticated to believe their transition is natural but its actually all a plan to enslave us.

it was forced to be pacifist by the USA after the defeat in ww2. The gov't adopted the Yoshida doctrine, which meant that
1. Japan had to accept big US military presence and diplomatic leadership (some sort of 'nuclear umbrella').
2. Japan's economy developed very rapidly under Bretton Woods.
3. Contrary to before, Japan's state focused only on the economy, rather than security/defense/war.

Its goal was to return to being a great power, but this time via economic means. (Research Japan's history to see that they were a major geopolitical and economic player before.

Bretton Woods ended in 1971, meaning a floating yen-dollar
After the oil crisis of 1973-1974 as a result of western countries' backing of Israel in the Yom Kippur war, Japan's double digit economic growth numbers decreased, but were still 4-5%.

The USA then declared a trade war on Japan.
- Japan had to 'voluntarily' limit its exports in textiles, steel and advanced products such as technology and cars.
- the dollar was depreciated against the yen, while Japan had to appreciate its yen, meaning its competition position worsened.
- in 1988 the USA added Super clause 301 to the Trade Act of 1974 in order to impose sanctions on 'unfair trade'.

(recognise something? Trump's China policy was Reagan's Japan policy)

tl;dr: Japan was soaring as an economic power after being militarily neutered by the USA. Japan became too strong economically, so USA waged a trade war on them, with of course the silent threat that Japan had no army and was pacifist.
USA treated Japan like it's treating China today, as a hostile country because of its economic success.

>Continuous growth isn't sustainable and should not be a goal

You Nippon's are so cucked beyond belief. Food costs nothing and there are plenty of nations who will sell it to you without issue.

Vertical farms are entirely possible, so are underground farms, its just that they cost slightly more than normal imported food.

>Second anecdote.
that's the entire industry, a race to the bottom with shitty electronic knick-knacks that increase the maintenance costs of the vehicle.

at this point, the smart move would be to release a bare-bones, 4-door shitbox that costs $10k new with 0 fluff and all engineering put into drivetrain reliability. the number of people who actually just want a very simple car that will get them to work and home and to go buy groceries is massive

Yes. Focus in on a single point in my post and ignore everything else, you drooling retard.

Japan is a nation with almost no natural resources and a giant population given its livable land areas. As population increases, farmable land areas decrease. But you would realize that if your black grandfather hadn't fucked the IQ out of your bloodline.

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japan should build artificial islands and expand their territory, make growth possible again

True. But China is no Japan. And their military is the 3rd best in the world.

>Food costs nothing and there are plenty of nations who will sell it to you without issue.
Imagine being this naive

KEK
The xing xing ass is bleeding somebody help

What's wrong?
Why should population increase exponentially forever? How is that in any way sustainable?

Just noticed the straw hut roofs on the skyscrapers.

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Maximum The Hormone 'Cum Of Love'
恋のスペルマ (Koi no Superma)

They open their banking system for ((USA))

Propaganda to get the Japs thinking they need to let several million Tyrone's and Achmed's invade their nation.

Pedophile loli anime faggots don' t get married and have children.

News flash: If your society enables degeneracy because "muh culture", don' t be suprised if your society becomes degenerate itself.

Next time I go to Japan will you help me figure out how to buy Shinkansen tickets from the machine? I always just end up guessing. Last time I ended up with green car

Japan does not produce anything anymore. All made in China. Same as the rest of the world. We are loosing our technology to chinks

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A demographic winter, it's a new environment for humans to live and proliferate in. This means that the genes that made people more likely to reproduce in the past, are not the ones that make them in the present. This is not a big problem as it will solve itself in a few generations as the people with higher birthrates and survival rates will outbreed the people with lower birthrates, thus creating a new man suited for the modern environment.

>strong men create good times
>good times create weak men
hard times are coming soon. when do strong japanese men come back?

I'm willing to go and help repopulate

Plaza Accord-->massive revaluation of JPY-->huge pile of debt
They were just being a good vassal

nice one, ziang wei

>automation will solve everything
Damn, you don’t need automation. You have lot of auto-chinks doing your job. Unfortunately one need money to buy products made by automation.

Not from shitney or melbin

>What went wrong?

They used a debt-based fiat currency system.

>thus creating a new man suited for the modern environment.
>creates a mutt slave race that is too dumb to question the elites and buys anything the media tells them to, yet smart enough to not chimp out when things get uncomfortable

>observing population decline in a vacuum
>not analysing it within the context of economics
Not surprised, the average Jow Forums poster is either underage or simply doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.
Population decline that's skewed to negatively affect the workplace population is a nightmare scenario for any first world country. Just look at India. Do they have an immigration problem? Does China? When your workforce is stacked, population decline isn't a big deal.

Are you seriously trying to say a vassal state like Japan is even remotely comparatively similar to a long-time nuclear power rival like China?

Shiggy diggy m8

You can't really make people marry and have children when their only option for a roof on their head is to rent out booths in net-cafes.

Because japan is knowingly cucking to foreign influences, especially to US. Plaza accord is an easy example of how they shoot themselves in the foot to hamper their own export-oriented economy for the sake of bailing out the US, and this is not the last time they did it either.

Those excuses can be justifiable if you actually try to pick yourself up (constitutional reform to remove military restrictions, self reliance on goods, etc.) yet in the lost decade there's almost no effort done to solve the problem

I'm saying the USA's realpolitik economic policy is similar. I'm not saying China=Japan

Before going forward, you have to remember that the vast majority of people on Jow Forums are retarded and are firing from the hip guessing about why it happened.

Japan's economy was an artificial bubble brought about by EXTREMELY low interest rates and the government forcing banks within Japan to lend out an enormous amount of money to drive artificial demand for housing and other goods. Gross investment fuels GDP growth, but you can only invest so much before artificially created bubbles eventually pop.

There's actually a really good documentary about it called "the princes of the yen".

Feel free to check it out.
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>muh growth muh gdp

fuck all that bullshit its fake and gay

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>inb4 it was the jews.
unironically

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I legitimately believe there is a small group of individuals with their fingers on the scale deciding this shit.

Now Japan goes up and Russia goes down
Now Japan goes down and China goes up
tweak a little thing here and there, fiddle the proportions a bit

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The real revolution will be when biocunts are replaced with fembots and artificial wombs

>no. 2
Their deal with the devil (ZOG) expired.

Do you really think ZOG was going to let them be no. 1?

Wars determine no. 1, not stock markets.

fuck off we're full

Nothing went wrong. No country is meant to support an infinitely growing amount of people. There's not enough space and resources to support it. Let the population grow and fall as needed. Let's not build more disgusting skyscrapers everywhere.

Same thing that fucked over the rest of the first world: a mix of jewish property scams and an addiction to outsourcing the fuck out of EVERYTHING.
Japanese electronics used to be the best of the best. Now all of it is overpriced garbage made in China and Mexico. Their cars are also going to shit now, and big surprise the parts are mostly made in Korea and China. To add to the misery Japan still has their insane work culture from the 80s, so people are dropping out of life because you're expected to grind yourself to the bone for fucking chump change and a one room apartment.

>10x the population of California
A little over 3x the population 40mil vs 126-127mil

Shut the fuck up you commie leaf. That's simply not the case. This is a Jewish lie to keep us domesticated and controlled. Its also to justify insane property costs so the jews can resel their worthless properties for millions. Drive just 1 hour outside of the most congested city centers and you'll find plenty of undeveloped land. Japan could easily sustain a billion more people on its islands, assuming they are culturally sound Japanese and not niggers.

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Market correction

Developed societies plateau at a slightly lower population level than their peak as everyone either pursues more fulfilling lives, prepares adequately to raise children responsibly, or just drops out of society due to not being in the top 50% of the bell curve in terms of intelligence or ability. It's end stage natural selection.

Of course, undeveloped countries and communities could give less than 0.01 shits whether or not they raise a decent human being, and just duplicate exponentially until they die poor.

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If you look back on history, most of humanity has always been a dumb mutt slave race meant to be kept too dumb to question the elites and buy anything their lords tell them to, in addition to having only a few or no rights at all.

Literacy rates used to only be about 2% before the industrial revolution. Either you start counteracting a few hundred thousand years of selection for dumb slave mutts who bred like rabbits now, or watch as in less than 100 years it becomes the only type of civilization left again.

This is neoreaction by the way, keeping the goyim dumb and miserable enough while an aristocratic class like the Yangban fight amongst themselves using the common people as pawns to keep themselves afloat in a "sustainable" society.

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Japan is doomed because of Fukushima.

Based, im looking forward to lower rent/housing. Less traffic and emptier trains and even more job openings. Its accelerated by the fact that even more thousands move to Tokyo every year, decreasing a citys population even more

Go to the ticket office like a real gaijin
Imagine being this retarded

when you leave behind knowledge but not the lesson, the knowledge gets misused or perhaps disregarded entirely. After all if nobody really understands how valuable it is why would they covet it.

i'm moving to japan next year

Just live in Tokyo with 90% of the other gaijin and not near me

>Just live in Tokyo
no i'm moving to a much smaller city, not a major one

Stay away from kansai, there's enough people like chinks shitting up the place

i'll go wherever i like you skinnyfat faggot

>never recovered
They just slowed down, they're still an economic powerhouse

okay
Sapporo it is

also i'll be in chugoku we should chill sometime :^)

Dont worry the English jobs are dried up here