Healthcare ought to be universal

Why are you shitting up the board with inane threads like these?

That is Unions, the FDA (and like) providing Federal and State funded/enforced monopoly. Literally the same fucking commie groups who say it has to be tax funded now. You think it's gonna get cheaper?

You don't love me, I am so sad

you don't love you, you think other people should do what you should be doing for yourself.

If there is universal coverage and price control, yeah....

>You don't love me, I am so sad
You're a fucking shill. If you don't like people calling you out on you bullshit, stop posting.

How about you go to /b/? You belong there.

No I don't care

>government does things cheaper
you're fucking crazy.
If you want universal coverage, why aren't you a doctor?
I'm serious, why aren't you giving everyone pro-bono care?

>No I don't care
So why must you bring the board down with you?

Why do you say such awful things to me?

No

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endless faggotry of weaksauce blamers.
>why don't other people
No, nigger, why didn't you? When you had the chance to do anything in the world, why didn't you make what you think needs to be free happen for others?

Because you are the father of lies

Doctors grow on trees?

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>Why do you say such awful things to me?
Did you ever think it's because you deserve it?

I mean it's clear you have no argument and can't answer even the simplest questions in regard to the topic you've abandoned. So why shouldn't you be insulted?

>Because you are the father of lies
Why do you say that?

What are you even talking about? Do you know the government reimburses physicians already?

AMA artificially limits the amount of doctors to have leverage.

So that's how many people's responses you have stored in you

He’s calling you a satanic jew

>Why do you say that?
Because it is truth

>hurr durr, things can be worse, so why don't we make them so!
great idea.
States and the Feds limit who can do medicine for Unions, and then the same Unions cry they're not getting paid enough to do all the work on their plate, we should send them more taxes...
Same fucking story, only this time it's a choice between my doctor and myself you want to fuck up so your Union Boss (sitting on the corporation board or not) can get another lake house.
Eat shit, learn medicine if you want it given away.

Enjoying life comes at different health costs for different people. Some people enjoy life by drinking alcohol until their liver turns purple. Others just shitpost on Jow Forums all day and otherwise lead a healthy life. Why should the latter group subsidize the former?

>Rambling
Please tell me how preventing insurance companies and hospitals from price gouging is “giving shit away”

>artificially limits the amount of doctors
How?

>incompetent
not writing your story for you Vox, suck my nuts.

Why don't you just die instead? Remove yourself from the gene pool you pathetic worm.

Then you can pay for the niggers, Scandocuck.

YES! You are correct, sir. You get the cigar

It already is if you don't depend on medicine (or poison) owned by corporate jews.

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Limit the amount of residency and med school seats. Less doctors= more power

Are you capable of answering how price control is the same as “pro bono”?

That phrase is wrong, people say that to themselves only to ignore the challenge of improving their own social abilities

I am. And I'm still not writing your article for you. Do some thought lines of logic from what I already posted, you're smart enough, you'll figure it out.

>Keeps avoiding the question
K. Keep me posted

i agree but they need to limit litigation to keep costs down. voted for trump btw. there has to be a way to make it work.

I had a chat with someone who came from Mexico (he's legal) and they had a good idea, basic things like checkups would be covered by universal healthcare to prevent disease but surgery wouldn't. The price of would need to be fixed from the current rates.
>I know the current system is crap but making the government foot the bill wouldn't help.

>Limit the amount of residency and med school seats
Schools set that, not the ama..
Schools are for making money and it’s a completely separate entity.
Being a doctor is hard and not everyone could do it.
Do you have any proof that the American medical association limits residency seats at every medical school in the country?

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nope, you keep writing articles using your own brain. when you give me royalties, I'll help, maybe.

>Schools do that
Lol. Schools would be accepting anyone with a pulse if they could. Look at the class sizes at an American bs Caribbean

Uh no. Anything free will eventually be rationed. Do you really want to stand in line for six weeks for a checkup? Look at the VA before the current reforms.

You will be treated according to your political worth in Universal Healthcare. Right now being an "migrant" has the highest worth even though they have not put anything into the system (and never will).

Wake up - socialism kills.

>Being a doctor is hard and not everyone could do it.
True, but plenty of people could specialize in a few area, and plenty more people could do chemistry, and even more could make the equipment...

Doctors will make better slaves than niggers, you should be happy to join the "progress" which not only silences people's opinions, but now makes you a slave for being smart and possibly altruistic...

Great first post.

I hate this socialist bs as much as the next guy but hopefully it would be a good compromise to shut up the "give me free stuff" crowd.
If it stops the next breakout it would be worth it.

>Schools would be accepting anyone with a pulse if they could
You have no idea how schools work do you?
Unemployed idiots who get sued to oblivion for malpractice can’t pay their school loans back.
And, an entire class full of retards would definitely devalue your product, being a degree from a school that produces non-retarded doctors.
Tropical doctor larp training is where the retards go.

you don't capitulate to losers or terrorists.
the first won't do anything and will never be satisfied, the second will kill you if you don't satisfy ever growing desires.
fuck em.

Did you miss the part where a key restriction in healthcare, ie the number of practitioners, is controlled by neither the hospital systems nor the insurance companies? AMA decides how many doctors there are in this country. If you guessed “Not half enough because they’re a labor cartel who’s interest is keeping US doctors the best paid on Earth despite health outcomes” give yourself a gold star. Is the AMA planning on certifying more meds schools, additional residencies, or licensing immigrant doctors to meet the increased demand that Bernie’s plan will spur? Fuck no they aren’t, they’re planning on getting paid or not letting a good crisis go to waste AND getting paid. This is a problem and nobody’s talking about it. Rail against the insurance companies and hospitals who’ve consolidated and grown more profitable under the ACA, they deserve it for leveraging the government against the people, but don’t leave out crooks just because you’re squeamish about attacking thugs in white coats.

>Can’t pay their loans back
Confirmed for talking out of your ass. Loans are backed by the federal government and paid upfront.
>An entire class will devalue your program
And get your accreditation revoked... which is why they don’t do it

Black market medicine? In the US?
Already happening is my bet, and rightfully.

>Loans are backed by the federal government and paid upfront.
Yeah.. the feds will approve a loan to someone going to a school that shits out dumbfucks.
You still don’t know how this works?
>And get your accreditation revoked... which is why they don’t do it
This explains how the ama limits seats how?
Let me also point out, I’m not saying you’re wrong... Just asking how.

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How about universal health care for people the same race as you. Every race be responsible for their own.
>pro tip: brown people wouldn't be able to care for themselves

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So you are 10?

>The slavery of doctors should be legal
or
>The slavery of the working class should be legal, to pay the doctors.
In Canada if you go to the hospital for a broken wrist you'll sit there for 6 hours, they'll give you Tylenol for the inflammation then send you home.
Then you go back, wait another6 hours and THEN they give you an X-ray, say 'Oh, your wrist is broken' and finally do something about it.
You get what you pay for, if you don't pay anything guess what you'll get?

not without severe price controls

did that racism affect you faggot or are you a kike?

If the money used to pay insurance companies was used toward Universal health care...
>words

Don't change the subject

>Fed will give loans to idiots
You really think student loans aren’t given out like crazy? Most private undergrad programs are around 50k a year. Go see if you can’t get loans for theatre degree.
>Doesn’t explain how the ama limits number of doctors
There is a fixed number of residency programs which indirectly controls the number of kids admitted into medical school. AMA has an army of lobbyists to prevent anymore.There is virtually no attrition in medical school unless you flunk/drop out. That is the reason medical school is still an attractive career. Allied heath professions (Pharmacy/Optometry) don’t have this control and schools are opening at a rapid rate, which will lead to over saturation. Look at law for a case study of what happens when the supply is not controlled.

>fixed number of residency programs which indirectly controls the number of kids admitted into medical school.
That’s definitely not how that works

I like slavery too.

Really? Explain how anybody who wants a residency can get one then

It’s part of medical school, if you make it to your doctorate, you get a residency.

no, fuck that jew proposal.

>ama-assn.org/residents-students/match/inside-numbers-behind-record-setting-2019-match
Wrong. You take the USMLE and apply

Hell yea, Universal. We be probin aliens n shiet.

>first year applicants
Nothing in this refutes what I said.
That registration matches applicants to residency programs in their fields.. it’s not an artificially controlled lot drawing.

Take control

>no, fuck that jew proposal.
Yes

>Hell yea, Universal. We be probin aliens n shiet
I am open for that possibility, yes

>everyone gets healthcare
>no one wants to pay
>everyone forced to pay via taxes
>everyone bitches about high taxes
>everyone bitches about how those who dont work get the same benefit but no cost
>everyone bitches that the massive healthcare suffers from queues months/years long
>people aged 12 to 35 typically dont need healthcare unless something genetic or acute trauma happens
>people 60+ contribute upwards of 80% of all healthcare related costs
>with healthcare now footed on the tax payer's dime, expect certain services to not be performed because "its the tax payer's money"
yup sounds like a good system

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The same people who snark about AMerican Public schools being incompotent cesspools also want the government to do the exact same thing to college and health "care"

>It is not artificially controlled.
Yeah, it is. Open up more primary care residencies to fill the shortage and allow medical students from developed countries to fill the role. Problem should be fixed in a few years

No

>Open up more medical schools
>allow medical students from developed countries to fill the role.
Are you fucking retarded?

No. You are obviously because I said “residencies”

>because I said “residencies”
Which are only in medical school hospitals..
Residents are still students dipshit

>Which are only in medical schools
va.gov/oaa/residencies_fellowships.asp
residency-scal-kaiserpermanente.org/
baptisthealth.net/en/residencies-and-fellowships/pages/default.aspx

>Academic Affiliations
Are you ok?
>wots an affiliated teaching school

> affiliated teaching hospital
Ftfm

Nice pushing the goal Posts. What medical school does the VA run?

Free trees for spiders

It’s an affiliated teaching hospital.. How do you not get this?

>muh pre-existing conditions
Again, you cannot buy fire Insurance when your house is burning

A teaching hospital is not a medical school, bucko. Most medical schools have their own hospitals, but not all residencies are in medical schools.

>Healthy people should pay for the unhealthy

All teaching hospitals are affiliated with one or more medical schools. If you’re a resident you’re still in medical school, no matter where the hospital is.