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You know, if you spergs simply chose to stop being afraid and accept the responsibility of holding your ideological beliefs; you could create a continent spanning movement that rewrites history.
Shed your fear of losing what little you have, or you hand power to the internationalist elite. Their existence is based only on what you let them have.
What's your excuse for not leaving your cuck shed and building a better world?
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>The jooos. They faked The holohoax and scare me.
(Sarcasm)
First step to building a movement is to base it on truth - kick all the Holocaust deniers out, or at least in the balls until they wise up.
Holocaust denial is the greatest threat to any NAt Soc movement. It is poison. Because it is firstly retardedly stupid lies, and secondly, gives immense power to enemies.
Give me a fucking break. You don't actually believe in the holocaust. No one does. The truth about the holocaust is a major piece of the puzzle that must be revealed to the whole world. History cannot continue as a lie.
>the holocaust
Why do you two think it is relevant? It's a random piece of history with some factual and some fictional elements to it. Whether or not it happened doesn't even matter. Because Jews will make it fit whatever situation they can make it fit, until everyone has heard enough of the whinging surrounding it. To even focus on the issue of the Holocaust (which includes Holocaust denial) does everyone a disservice, except Jews who get to use it to service their victim status.
Everyone just needs to move on from it.
We use it against the jews for lying about the whole thing. How would they use it against us? I automatically distrust anyone who wishes to perpetuate lies like the Holocaust. Go have fun with your "movement". Many others will go elsewhere.
>I automatically distrust anyone who wishes to perpetuate lies like the Holocaust.
Did I say anything like that?
>We use it against the jews for lying about the whole thing.
Only that nobody cares anymore. Children in schools don't even know about what it really means. The Jews bring out their "holocaust" get out of jail free card all the time. To oppose it openly in the present environment merely gives weight to their position and reinforces their victim status. We can make the necessary changes to Western society without bringing up the Holocaust in any shape or form. Other than to stroke our own egos, and be wrathful; what is to be gained from this?
The Jews can only use the holocaust narrative against people if people care about it. The best way to fix this issue is to just never talk about it.
What would your solution be?
kill
yourself
I don't hide them. I just don't say autistic shit like "hitler did nothing wrong!" in real life. If you actually talk to people and explain your positions, and why, they're generally at least receptive, if not necessarily in agreement. I have never explained my views on immigration and received personal attacks afterward. Unsurprisingly, when you point out mass immigration is fucking Americans over, most people agree. The only rule is to never invoke partisan politics, because then it becomes an "us vs them" issue, and if they're with "them", they're not likely to be led over to "you" with reason and logic.
>I don't hide them. I just don't say autistic shit like "hitler did nothing wrong!" in real life.
Neither do it, and I agree with your statement. And yet the ability to make change is about grouping together and enforcing a presence on the environment. Which nobody does. Legitimate real change could be happening right now, but all anyone does is talk. Nobody is acting (and this includes me, so feel free to call me a hypocrite).
Your name wouldn't happen to be hunter would it friend?
(((You))) and French flagfag are complete and utter brainlets. Truth and knowledge are the two most important building blocks of any movement. Stop posting utter drivel no one is falling for it anymore.
Nope, not even close. I am also Australian.
haha does anyone else think genocide is alright lol xd
> Truth and knowledge are the two most important building blocks of any movement.
Truth: Fixing the problem doesn't involve holocaust denial. One can highlight the presence of Jews in powerful positions.
Rewriting history(and yes, it doesn't matter that the original history is fictional or not) requires intellectual control. The underlying narrative won't change by having a few fringe people screeching autistically in public about it. You only out yourself as a social failure. Politics/civics/statecraft is about Realpolitik. The recognition of what you can and cannot do, on a functional level, is primary.
>Stop posting utter drivel no one is falling for it anymore.
Sorry, what drivel is that?
>What's your excuse for not leaving your cuck shed and building a better world?
What's your excuse, OP?
this site is dedicated to glorifying those things what did you expect coming here.
Where have you been? The jews bring up the Holocaust every chance they get. They create their own victim narratives and use it against others all the time. Being silent is the worst thing we could do. They will never shut the fuck up.
You will taste Zyklon B before you meet your desert demon-lord Yahweh.
post id leads to the truth. you will get there germanbro. i used to be just like you.
I'm as german as it gets, my great grandfather fell defending Saarland, I'm less likely to be gassed than you, Mutt
>What's your excuse, OP?
Not much of one, really. I do what I am limited to, by my environment. To propagate outwards into a polity one needs a group that can maintain presence and involve itself in the daily lives of citizens. I've found Australian Ultrantionalists to be ...lacking in that department. The only countries that have managed to build functional and growing Ultranationalist movements are places like Greece and Italy, who do so only because they've experienced chronic and severe economic hardship. Australians on the other hand are plump and distracted with their Bread and Circuses. My options are limited.
>The jews bring up the Holocaust every chance they get.
I know that's why I said here: >The Jews bring out their "holocaust" get out of jail free card all the time.
>They create their own victim narratives and use it against others all the time.
Exactly my point. But as the proverb goes; it takes two to tango. The greatest damage one can make to that misbehaving child that screams and goes out of control in a public place when they don't get what they want, isn't to debate them. It's to ignore their hysteria.
People have been denying the holocaust for decades, and it never actually leads to anything but ostracism that the normies are groupthink'ed into following. You make the neccesary changes when you have intellectual and social control, not when you have none.
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Genocide can be morally justified. Definitely.
sure thing french jew
The jews have been allowed to spread holocaust lies WITHOUT challenge for 80 years because they control mass media. That's the only reason. A few people here and there aren't going to do much.
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Google "Evergreen State day of absence"
I know anons here will not deliver because they're afraid. Job security, having a working man's life, their children. Most of us aren't basement dwelling wignats in contrast to popular belief. All can be lost if other anons do not deliver as well for things they deem more important than an idea. That very fear is the reason none of us are acting on it.
Anons with nothing to lose, a criminal record and no family however.. Why haven't you done this already? Is there any real excuse to it? Had I nothing to lose I definitely would.
Of course I believe that vet five million Jews, and millions of non Jews died as direct action by the Germans and their allies during the war. The camps existed, the ghettos existed the gas chambers existed, the Einsatzgruppen existed, the mass shootings existed, the deliberate policy of starvation and extermination through labout existed.
Denial is stupid.
Is right - talking about it gives the opposition power. Denying it gives them even more power.
Does. It work because any sane person doing any research will see they are not lying. You can spout the denier tropes and retarded memes all day, and any person fact checking them will instantly see that Mose denier claims are utter bollocks. Absolute lies. I can think of no denier claim that stands up to any reasonable scrutiny.
Is an idiot. Yes, absolutely correct that truth is fundamental. Totally fucking stupid for not knowing hot truth is the holocaust happened. Not bears and eagles, not Australian 2004 masturbation machines, not atomic death rays, it the rest - the mass murder, the terrible conditions, the starvation and yes the disease and the millions dead - happened. And denying it makes you look like a liar,
Yes they do. And denying it gives them even more power “look at those nasty Nat Socs, just the same as ever, they want to murder us, and are denying they did it before because they want to murder us again...”
Denial,gives them victim hood. It makes them look threatened.
If NAt Socs came forward saying “yes the old Nazis did thst, because they had utterly retarded unscientific ideas about race, and played an identity politics game that was divisive and stupid (just like SJWs) and we will never do that... we will never mass murder children just because people of the same religion and race did something bad a thousand miles away.” then they have some chance. But to say “duh it didn’t happen but it should have” stupid
>The jews have been allowed to spread holocaust lies WITHOUT challenge for 80 years because they control mass media. That's the only reason. A few people here and there aren't going to do much.
What was your point, friend? If it was that we can't match the Internationalist Propaganda Machine, the only thing that can be done, especially in regards to Denial, is to shelve it for a later date.
>I know anons here will not deliver because they're afraid. Job security, having a working man's life, their children.
>Had I nothing to lose I definitely would.
I know where you're coming from, comrade. But the simple truth is that these lines of thinking are why we're in this mess to begin with, even if I understand the motivations behind them. Our inaction is making the problems worse and worse, year by year, and with all due respect: when your daughter (or son) gets raped by some Somalian mob, you will have only yourself and your inaction to blame.
> I have no arguments and am fucking stupid so I shall just say something really retarded,
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Can you leave the thread please, you're degenerating discussion around irrelevant shit.
This. Call out BS when it is obvious, and call out self centered Jews acting Jewish when you see it. Stop giving a shit about the holocaust. It's over. Jews can stop too. We are all tired of their old hairy asses crying about it, they have Israel now. No one fucking needs to be reminded daily anymore. The holocaust can literally not happen again if Israel exists, the whole reason it happened was because there was no dumping ground for Jews.
Move the fuck on. Kikes too. And tell them that. Let them kvetch.
I was busy - what is your point?
Well as you have pointed out the fundamental issue is credibility, and denialism utterly undermines thst, so it isn’t irrelevant.
But fine, fuck You.
Perhaps. Maybe I'm too afraid. I would in a heartbeat knowing i'd have people to support me, anons to organize.
The problem with this image board is exactly that, it's so anonymous that a call for assembly or organizing gets you ousted as a glownigger making profiles. Even just organizing a breakaway state would be impossible in Norway considering we have nothing to defend ourselves with.
The holocaust definitely happened.
>Well as you have pointed out the fundamental issue is credibility, and denialism utterly undermines thst, so it isn’t irrelevant.
The issue of holocaust denial is relevant, but only among National Socialist circles. The future won't be determined by people rehashing a now outdated political ideology from the 1920's/30's (as ironic as it sounds coming from me with this flag). A rebranding is in everyone's best interests, which makes the discussion surrounding holocaust denial largely irrelevant. That's all I meant. I made the thread to discuss the issues around a lack of emergent political groupings to push forwards a political agenda, and in the OP made zero direct or indirect references to the holocaust, or even to National Socialism in general. Rather, something else.
The thing is...holocaust denial is hilarious and fucking cool. It's going to spread to the youth like a wildfire. Jews are bunch of lames and squares who cry about everything.
>The problem with this image board is exactly that, it's so anonymous that a call for assembly or organizing gets you ousted as a glownigger making profiles.
Yeah I understand that. My criticism wasn't at you specifically, only that line of thinking. There are literally tens of thousands of people in your relatively small country that hold the same opinions and yet none of them act or reveal themselves, out of fear. It is perhaps the most frustrating thing , indeed. One of my motivations around this thread are about probing the collective intelligence of this board to find a solution.
>Even just organizing a breakaway state would be impossible in Norway considering we have nothing to defend ourselves with.
The core goal shouldn't be secession in any form. Rather to establish a parallel state that does the things that the community needs, that the official state can't provide (e.g what CasaPound is doing in Rome by providing housing and medical help to the disaffected poor).
>the only thing that can be done, especially in regards to Denial, is to shelve it for a later date.
Ehh...whatever. There will be many splintering movements because of issues like this anyways. However, I would say that future movements who refuse to question the holocaust will be highly susceptible to jewish subversion.
The second mistake is trying to replicate movements that failed, like NatSoc or the Confederacy. Look at reactionary nations existing right now: UAE, China (state-controlled capitalism, high standards of behavior, concentration camps for Muslims, great infrastructure), Hong Kong and Singapore.
>However, I would say that future movements who refuse to question the holocaust will be highly susceptible to jewish subversion.
It's easy to tell who the controlled opposition and paid shills are on this account. They either recognize the holocaust as true openly or support the legitimacy of Jewish people as victims. Groups of holocaust deniers have been subverted and controlled in the past, and engaged in damage to holocaust memorials, etc. Holocaust denying groups can be subverted by Jewish interests for Jewish goals, too. You can't have an official "Good Guy" without an official "Bad Guy", which is just what open holocaust deniers become.
Simply refusing to engage in that dichotomy and focusing on real issues that people care about does the most damage to perpetrators of the holocaust narrative. That's my opinion, anyway.
Also, fuck off faggot. Stop trying to suck people into your honeypot.
In your movement, would you at least acknowledge jewery as the enemy?
>leaving your cuck shed and building a better world
Where on the moon?
Not explicitely. That plays into the same game as what we've previously discussed. I would instead use dog-whistles that don't alienate normies, while still bringing in support from the core %base (e.g the International Element, Userers, Speculators, International Finance, propaganda media, diversity cultists, etc.).
>base it on truth - kick all the Holocaust deniers out
True.
>does anyone else think genocide is alright
It depends on what you're genociding. If your house was infested by roaches would you want to kill them all or not?
>Fixing the problem doesn't involve holocaust denial.
I disagree. If you can sucessfully point out how the holocaust is a lie ( and it is) then there will be outrage. People are emotionally hevily invested in holocaust. Finding out how they have been lied to for all these years will set them on fire. This is why there are holocaust denial laws in 13 countries.
Hey Aaron how's your slutty girlfriend?
>this site is dedicated to glorifying those things
No it's not. This is an open forum. The opinions here are organic, right or wrong and wether you agree or not. 100% organic
It sounds like you want a movement of the Jared Taylor and Nick Fuentes variety. If you want to be an Amnat, go be an Amnat. You won't change any wignat minds on this. I would get rid of the black sun and swastika.
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so much this
>memeflag
>telling someone smart to fuck off
>mfw admittedly it is a tripfag but still
Found the kike who's trying to secure more shekels for Israel.
>The third wave
You do realize that experiment was done by a Jew? Most of it is Over exaggerated, most students and teachers Testify that they made fun of him and that almost no one joined "the third wave". It's just a Jew telling Talltales.
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>because they control mass media
Agree but mass media is dying. The new media is the internet which the jews don't fully control. They control the biggest parts of it like facebook, google, twitter etc.. But there are many more that are out of their control which is why they are desperate to pass laws limiting access and speech. I dont think we past the tipping point yet but if we don't act soon we are irreversably done.
>the gas chambers existed
stopped reding there.. fuck off rabbi
>I disagree. If you can sucessfully point out how the holocaust is a lie ( and it is) then there will be outrage.
My driving force is realpolitik. If someone can show me how this is possible I wouldn't at all be opposed. But I see how holocaust denial movements are co-opted(or even created outright) by Jews for the purpose of perpetuating their victimhood and maintaining their moral standing, even as they do shitty things.
To date there hasn't been a single good example of productive holocaust denial. So I take the best option I can think of: avoid that game entirely until in a position of power and influence for that position to make any actual change.
Jared Taylor
Taylor is a guy that basically cowers in his cuck shed and doesn't bother to organize people. Instead he just lectures. While I don't have any issues with him as a person, his actions are the kind of thing I am speaking out against.
>Nick Fuentes
To be quite honest I don't even know anything substantial about him. From what little I've seen he spends all of his time getting other people in the so-called "Far right" (whatever that actually means) riled up, and shitposts for the sake of shitposting. His actions are entirely counter-productive.
I don't want anything of either of their variety, quite the opposite. I want actions, not words.
>If you want to be an Amnat, go be an Amnat. You won't change any wignat minds on this.
I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, I'm trying to push people to action. I have no problem with people holding beliefs of holocaust denial, only that it doesn't get in the way of meaningful progress (it does).
Actually as I've shown, I'm Australian. In an ideal world, the whole Israel-Palestine region would be sunk into the sea with all it's inhabitants, but we're not living in a fairytale.
It wasn't meant as a guidebook, or anything. Merely an example of how simple ideas can propagate if pushed to creation by action.
>Agree but mass media is dying. The new media is the internet which the jews don't fully control.
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Um I'm sure you're a cool guy, user. But I think I'll pass.
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It's more fictional then non-fictional, movements aren't the easy to spread. Don't trick yourself in to thinking that, if anything, it's a example to never trust the narrative.
>movements aren't the easy to spread.
It depends on the conditions. Movements aren't that easy to spread in times of high employment. But not only for the reason that people are looking for someone to blame and for someone to fix their problems and return them to a normal life; but also for the reason that you have lots of people out on the streets putting an ideological presence in people's minds. You only have one person in a public space, people think he's a madman. You have 30 people in a public place, handing out fliers standing in unison, that has an impact on the tribal psychological mindset of everyday people.
Not like that user.. use a temporary anonymous email. Nevermind it expired
What I mean to say was:
>Movements aren't that easy to spread in times of high employment. But in times of high unemployment not only for the reason that people are looking for someone to blame...(cont.).