Indoctrination

The issue is that parenting IS ALWAYS indoctrination.

Parents teach you a culture, a set of morals, language, etc.

Why do these people consider it child abuse? Because it is not the same beliefs they have, of course.

Somehow now only the state is able to indoctrinate, even when the state is what causes the most problems and wars in this world.

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>my job is fully protected!
on this side of the border I'd file a grooming accusation against you for telling my kid they were gay, frankly if you're serious and that's not fanfiction I'm shocked it hasn't happened to you up there.

Leaf, you're fucking wet mate

Nope, I'm pushing human rights, and what has been observed to be acceptable and natural by science. Science trumps religion. Always.

but christ saved
havent you heard the good news???

Lol, you'd have no luck doing that in the USA either.

Canadians are protected from discrimination based on sexual orientation. If I see parents discriminating against their own kids, I'm fucking damn well going to get involved.

Human rights as we know it don't exist, they're a social and political construct.

>MUUUH SOCIAL SCIENNECCEE
fuck off cucknigger

faggots are not natural in any shape or way. its not bilogically right in any fucking sense.

I agree completely.

But we're allowed to ask questions about those. Hold debates. Reach new conclusions.

With religion, there's always a "right answer" at the beginning of any argument, regardless of its substance.

>faggots are not natural in any shape or way
Aside from you existing, theres ton of animals that do homosexual shit. Stating there isn't anything "natural" about it is demonstrably false. People stopped saying this 20 years ago because it's a retarded statement.

>be me
>21 now
>back then I was like, 6
>parents and grandparents are Catholic
>I hated church
>I said I don't wanna go anymore
>they say "ok you don't have to go anymore"
>15 years later, I am not religious but I have a great interest in studying its history and beliefs out of curiosity.

In conclusion, if you don't push your religion on your kid, they will probably get more interested in it as they grow as they will see it as a grownup thing or something interesting. Or, they will go full edgy and become atheists.

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I completely agree. Based leaf. You shall be spared the rake.

Where did you get that maxim? In other words: Children need to be taught I want them to be taught and I am the arbiter of what people ought to think.

Indoctrination by public schools is child abuse.

Children should be taught to hate degenerate pedophiles like you.

>2% of the population
>60% of the pedophiles

Yes we know what science has to say about the homosexual behavior. It’s perversion manifests itself in several ways but not in genetic reproduction.

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Teaching your kids to wear clothes and wipe their asses is indoctrination.

>yeah that teacher has been saying sexual things to my kid
>yeah the other students say they've been meeting alone after class
boom your career is dead, have fun on the sex offender registry sicko

Coo. I looked up Acts 10:2 "A devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, which gave much alms to the people and prayed to God alway."

There's probably something in the Parable of the Talents about being afraid to invest what you are given, but that scriptural reference is incorrectly cited.

Ok, I'll be kind and ignore that mess of a "sentence" you tried to type above me.

Here's a good way to re-explain my views. Einstein was once asked, "What is the speed of sound?". He replied "I do not know, because such information is readily available in books. The purpose of a university education is to teach the mind how to think, not what to think".

School is for book-learning, and for the teaching of principles that are universally accepted. Any other opinions should be arrived at on one's own free will, as a result of thought, and discussion with peers. Not handed down from a literally iron-age book.

This. Indoctrination is not the problem. Indoctrination on ideas destructive of society is.

...

popular opinion of mine:

op IS a faggot.

op needs to be taught to KILL HIMSELF, not to STAY being alive.

and?

Is that what you imagine saying to those little boys that you give sexual advice to?

ITT arguing with men in dresses, who's goal in life is to cut their dicks off, about the right way to raise children

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forcing atheism is child abuse then

>Einstein
Blavatsky fan. Kabbalistic fraud.
Perhaps a good physicist (questionably forced, inflated public perception of him) but a poor philosopher of morals to give support to your views.

>an atheist only hating Christianity
what a fucking surprise

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True enough.

Here's my evaluation:

Wear pants: not really necessary, but it's a societal norm at the moment, and you'll avoid legal consequences by doing so.

Wiping of the ass: Scientifically established as a good hygiene practice. Feces is full of bacteria, and it could fester if left uncleaned. Many other animals wipe themselves too.

Not fucking other men: Some religious horseshit started many thousands of years ago by people on the basis of old books.

based.

Wearing clothes is a social construct but I just don't want anyone to see my tiny penis.

Yes. I'm not sure why you thought this was post-worthy.

Oh no, I hate Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, anything that wants you to take everything at face value.

There are many, many "better" religions than Christianity, in terms of respect for human life though.

>I'm actually a high school teacher. If a child ever ...
Mentally deficient teenage boy lover able to teach in Canada, how surprising

Fucking men: a habit closely associated with dopamine release. Should be avoided to maximize reproductive success. We won’t even get into males having stronger libidos and all the aids that polyamorous homosexuals spread into one another’s shit holes.

Buddhism doesn't hold anything in value. A rock is just as valuable as a brand new car. Buddhism is more being in touch and not taking material for granted.

>Some religious horseshit started many thousands of years ago by people on the basis of old books.

Romans 1:22
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools

Haha, France has a much richer history of child sexual abuse than Canada.

>I have no problem stepping on parents' toes
Who cares what you think? You're just some whining canadian poofter.

If you write enough bullshit down, some of it will always make sense some of the time. There's a reason your book is full of contradictions. A thousand monkeys on a thousand typewriters.

>Edgy atheist incel decides that religious instruction from parents of THEIR children is "abuse" and religious parents who decide to raise their children should have their PARENTAL RIGHTS violated.
FUCK YOU!

>There's a reason your book is full of contradictions.
Oh i like this one. Bring it on faggot

>Buddhism
its probably the most lazy religion out there and compleatly out of touch with reality, the whole point of Christianity its to discover truth, convenient or not, righteousness is to search for truth. it is the religion for the truly smart and humble

“… the earth abideth for ever.” — Ecclesiastes 1:4

“… the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.” — 2 Peter 3:10

I could go on all day.

Why am I not surprised that it's a FUCKING LEAF making this thread. Go fix your near totalitarian commie joke of a country.
A country that elected a faggot like Trudeau and whose native European population is being demographically erased trying to share is perverted opinion.
Canadians are massive scums.

Go back home and fuck your sister.

>the earth abideth for ever.” — Ecclesiastes 1:4
>The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose. 6The wind goeth toward the south, and turneth about unto the north; it whirleth about continually, and the wind returneth again according to his circuits. 7All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full; unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again.
you forgot the rest showing that its suppose to mean how the earth will renew its self, this is why you think there are contradictions, you dont read the whole thing

First of all, the Bibie is not meant to be read by single verses. You read the whole chapter and understand the context. Comparing single verses is stooopid.

There are no contradictions, only lack of understanding. Bible is the manual for Salvation, not an answer for everything.

>Teach them how to think not what to think
How to think is worse. Much worse. This is one of those commie platitudes that was introduced while I was in school.
It sounds great on the surface, until you realize the emphasis is on the How and not the Think.
Teaching them how to think is exactly how you get inaction and mental paralysis when confronted with new or contradictory information.

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It's not that people are indoctrinating, it's that nobody takes the time to learn how, only what to think. So they can't pass along information they don't know do they? It's like at some point, it just became too hard to teach the actual truth, so we are getting an extremely dumbed down version of it. Just like math in school. The old way was too hard to teach, and we couldn't be bothered, so we'll just teach them retard math instead.

>With religion there's always a "right answer".
Even your understanding of religionS is flawed. Go fix your shitty country, you faggot.

I can't believe there's actually a Christfag on this site... from Germany no less?

Nothing is flawed. Christianity is perfect.

hey faggot dont ignore this

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Is this 2010?
Plebbit is that way to the left.

Hey, assuming you're an Amerifag, we have better healthcare than you, better education, less poverty, more freedom, need I continue?

Seriously, check the stats. The only way you have us beat is money.

>keeping your ass clean is scientifically valid
>keeping your dick out of men’s dirty tearing assholes is some bullshit tho

it is the perfect way, the lord has shown the law, all thats left is to understand the different context they show in and we will be on the path to righteousness, dont waver my guy

>Fuck your sister
Wow, is that what you do or what you think religious people do? You probably fuck your dog.

I hate how we will never truly know if God hates fags considering that the church has constantly re-written the bible and made it super complicated by throwing out books that complicate things.

We can't even trust the holy book, considering that all Abrahamic religions descend from Jewery.

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>better healthcare
is that why people die in the ER? no need for a cure if they are dead.LOL

Newfag get out.

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Buddhism is redpilled as fuck, you just don't know anything about it

Haha, not ignoring, just realizing that you'll be pulling the typical Christian stunts, such as "oh, that was from the old testament, this is from the new", etc., so deciding you're not worth engaging in debate, like most religious people.

Well said user,I agree. I believe it is imperative to instill strong values in your children, not ideologies. Virtues like honesty, courage, compassion, hard-work, the importance of family, etc. should be indoctrinated into a child, the rest is just fucked up preying on the innocence of a child to mindfuck them for life to follow the same ideology as you. I maybe wouldn't call it child abuse per se and I wouldn't prevent parents from doing it I think, but I believe it's wrong.

Glowing bright friend.

>leaf
I wonder how things are with your parents mate, wish you the best of luck.

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What if the Bible really was a divine book and you were wrong?

But can you afford a burger?

>and I have no problem stepping on parents' toes if they indoctrinate children, their own or others.
Kys faggot

>Reddit spacing
>Leaf flag
>Abhorrent post

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What if Winnie the Pooh is a divine book and YOU were wrong?

We could all be wrong about everything. There's simply no evidence to support any books being "divine".

What the hell I was defending Buddhism wtf. It is true, they don't get attached to material objects. It only brings despair.

that is just not true, infact we still have original copys of the new testament, plus the early church preserved the word"religiously", we still have all of what it was originally and we have what jesus said on the matter too
And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
not even what happend you totally delusional faggot, go read it again

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if theres ONE thing we can all be certain of its that god hates fags

This is Jow Forums, not your militant atheist strawman or some street corner preaching Evangelical baby christian who got born again last week and only knows a few verses.

I know, I just know your type. Anyone citing the article you did in your first post is a fucking mouth-breather.

the ER sucks but once you're actually admitted into the system it's pretty great. I was in the hospital for 1 month and didn't pay a single dime. My specialist then saw me once a week for a month after I got out, then once every two weeks after that for a while. Both systems have perks and downsides despite what people say: America is better if you have money, Canada is *a lot* better if you don't. As someone with medical issues I got way more than my tax dollars worth, and I wasn't even a citizen.
t. burger who lived in Canada for many years.

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>There's simply no evidence to support any books being "divine".
Countles testimonies of people. That is good in any court.

wrong reply, sorry

the talmud one? or the one where gays abuse kids likely because they themselves where abused?
youtube.com/watch?v=gXGlawiibK8

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I mean cmon seriously think about it. For the longest time, the bible was in Latin and nobody in Europe unless you were a clergy member knew how to speak Latin.

They easily could have rewritten the testaments and made the words sloppy and fucked it all up to make the Europeans more obedient. They were corrupt enough to take bribes to get into heaven, why not manipulate the Europeans into thinking something.

Even tho I believe the church fucked around with the Bible, God def hates FAGS.

Good thing you'll never have the numbers or muscle to enforce your retarded ideas. Such is the plight of the social darwinists, who aren't very good at Darwinism.

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Lol, and what "testimony" would that be? I've sure as shit never heard anything that would hold up in a mental institution, let alone a court.

its okay :(

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That's insane. Testimony of people thousands of years ago would not be admissable in court. Mass conversion to a Jewish splinter cult has done massive damage to the white race. Modern Christianity, esp. in the US and hyper-liberal European countries, has become genuine christcuckery. Israel would not exist without brainlet mutt fundamentalists ensuring America's perpetual support for kikery. Christianity is an inherently Jewish religion. Don't try to argue otherwise when the first half of your book is the fucking Torah ffs.

whats that say about the taxpayers,its kinda retearded how it does not even work first for the citizens. but aleast you got better

>percentage of Christian *and Muslim* population
Oy vey, that's fayntestic! More moslems :DDD

To hell with atheism, I only shoot for irreligion, which is a good half of Canada these days. The number of "regular churchgoers" has been shrinking, FAST, for decades.

You can't teach some "how to think", you can only teach them a way of thinking. You are trying to conceal a certain ideology when you generalize "thinking". Your solution is that we all need to think like 21st century Jews or else the state can use force. What a grand, original idea.