Serious question here

this culture and even this board could be the apical meristem of humanity but in the aggregate and in the present they will have little effect

Thank you I've been looking for this

>>Jow Forums is one person
Oh sorry faggot. Next time I'm gonna be more politically correct and say "substantial part of /pol users" instead.
Thank for talking openly about your sensitivities. Shove them up into you faggot asshole =)

Your critique is especially true when trying to talk about any pan-European ideology that could unite us, because the Nords, Meds, and (I'll readily confess) American idiots start shitting the thread up with "herp, you're not white!".

Meanwhile, the Chines are going balls-deep into gene editing and artificial intelligence, which will completely annihilate anything that religiously conservative/traditionalist/romantic white nationalism will ever be able to create.

Very good topic, Georgia bro. Too bad it's throwing pearls before swine. Europe should embrace all of these technologies and then take to the stars. Alas, too many low IQ retards are subverting and sabotaging the movement for the sake of dead ideologies that 21st century technology will slice through like a hot knife through butter.

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damn man, just fucking w/ you. this is why newfags should lurk for 2 yrs, helps you to grow thicker skin as well.

it's a solid point, no doubt, and one that a lot of people don't consider. BUT you need to take into account those technologies will never EVER be used by the underclass. not in our lifetimes, or our grandchildrens lifetimes. religion and trad values will be the only thing keeping the underclass from tearing themselves apart as it has always been.

I study my technical field in one of the most, if not the most renowned western universities. I don't want to get into particular details, but my supervisor is paid by Chinese to participate in creating an affiliated research centre there.
They are mindlessly investing in technologies.
At this moment in time, it's the whole european culture, the culture of individualism that's at stake. If we let Chinese get ahead in these fields, our offspring will live in a totalitarian world, no doubts.
It's just sad that most of the users here are so reactionary that they would eagerly condemn all european values just because they (rightfully so) hate feminists.
The west trading enlightening values to some christian variation of sharia is not much better then converting to islam all together.

>it's a solid point, no doubt, and one that a lot of people don't consider. BUT you need to take into account those technologies will never EVER be used by the underclass. not in our lifetimes, or our grandchildrens lifetimes. religion and trad values will be the only thing keeping the underclass from tearing themselves apart as it has always been.
Trust me, these kind of fundamental advancements can not be hidden in principle.
Once the rough outline of gene editing for higher iq let's say, is published in nature or patented, supply/demand would do its magic.)) It's like drugs, you just can't get rid of them.
But that's unless we are living in the china tier commie dystopia by then, which a lot of the posters here, on both sides of the devise (commies and the statists alike) seem to wish

>The west trading enlightening values to some christian variation of sharia is not much better then converting to islam all together.
enlightenment values

try to play god and we'll see what happens

the problem is that "enlightenment values" are inherently vulnerable, just as non-technologically-minded tribes are inherently vulnerable to warmongering technologists.
a strongly hierarchically organized / hiveminded group, like the chinese, is at a huuuuuge advantage compared to our scattered bullshit in the west. our political systems at this point in time are completely self-defeating, and while we're arguing back and forth over left vs right, the chinese are assiduously learning everything they'll need to destroy us.
maybe the culture of individualism was an evolutionary dead end, at least for this era. maybe there will be a resurgence at some point in the future, from a breakaway space colony. but all signs point to the individualistic west not being able to pull out of this suicidal tailspin.

at a MINIMUM we would need to reinstitute monarchy, and then if we got lucky, that person and their underlings would be able to take evasive action against the rest of the world.
unfortunately that's simply not going to happen. Trump was probably our last chance for something like that, and he ended up being a trojan golem.

You may wery well be right. The fact that it appeals to my soul the most, does not make it any more fitter. And evolution, subjects of which societies are, is about the survival of fittest.
Maybe the spark of it will survive, hidden somewhere deep and will one day light again, scattered in a safety of a deep space =)

>unfortunately that's simply not going to happen. Trump was probably our last chance for something like that, and he ended up being a trojan golem.
I must admit, I also had high hopes of him.

Here's the real kicker:
Those "traditional values" espoused by various flavors of reactionaries aren't actual traditional values. They are just simulacra - an IDEA of what "tradition" SHOULD mean as interpreted through pop culture, online memes and, at the very best, original (i.e. new, i.e. non-traditional) interpretations of old media, literature and art.

All these retards "extrapolating our past experience"? They are not even doing THAT! They have no real-life past experience that isn't plastic trash of their commodified childhood. They have no "traditional values" because, by definition, tradition is something you receive from your parents, and none of their parents are teaching them how to be 18th century good christian farmers. Their parents are more likely than not a bunch of cosco middle managers or pet shop owners, and themselves have been raised from birth into a fake culture of commodified garbage.

From "family values" to religious inclinations to most forms of bigotry, pretty much everything in conservatism that claims seniority is, in fact, very new and modern.

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If the human race is to survive or have a future worth living gene editing must be banned and a Butlerian Jihad must crush all Artificial Intelligence that replicate any mind capable of more than menial labour (room temp IQ).
There is truth that there is a place for automation and forward thinking, but it is how we must contain such technologies, and use them to bring about a desirable future where we are more in touch with our nature not less.
Foe example ending the cest pits we call cities, decentralizing society. With energy that's locally generated, or generated for near free we can grow all the food we need ourselves with AI slaves as farming equipment. AI can take us back to the glory days of agrarian slavery modeled on the early U.S or ancient Sparta. Hi-tech ultra-trad agrarian militia militarism.

You haven’t noticed shit.

perhaps we can hope for some new liberating, distruptive technologies, akin to what the Internet was in the 90s, or what Bitcoin originally aspired to be in its first few years (though in general I am pessimistic about any technology being able to liberate in the long run - they all seem hardwired to extend the "control system" in every direction)
but maybe there's already a true "Meta-Resistance" in operation, preparing to free people from destructive, anti-life ideological and technological systems. no idea what that would look like, but it certainly wouldn't look like anything we've seen yet.
maybe there will be some kind of modern analog of what Christianity was, when it was still young and changing the world order. again, no idea what that could possibly be, but we are definitely ripe for SOMETHING new in this world.

I hate to say it but, the jew is right.

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Read Abolition of Man, the advancement of technology is exactly why the values and philosophy of the society that obtains that power matters. Once mankind reaches the power necessary to define for the future what Man shall be the governing ideology will use it to define Man as such. A sane society would produce demigods. A mad one will produce monsters.

youtube.com/watch?v=RJfurfb5_kw

It's fascinating, that your people managed to come up with the traditions/value system, that enabled your culture to flourish to that extent. our western civilization is to this day, largely the product of jewish theological ideas)) I suppose it must be flattering))

But on the other hand, I'm strongly suspecting that talmud is not overly keen on gene editing and you do risk missing that train))

Nothing demonstrates the facility of the idea of "the west" as a Georgian man saying "our western civilization".

hey, for once I totally agree with a kike.
Jow Forums, in its reactionary, fundamentalist way, has jumped onto certain phenomena and run too far with them.
but I do believe there have been some basic truths re-uncovered in the last decade or so, that were previously too difficult for the average "enlightened" person to understand. for example: letting women run wild is a recipe for social disorder, proportional to the amount of freedom given to them.
now some will go bonkers with little tidbits like that, and rush to embrace older religious concepts, but the fact is we can never go back to that kind of innoence or simple-mindedness. we can't consult a book or believe that Jesus Christ himself is asking us to behave a certain way.
but if, from a purely practical perspective, we can see that multiculturalism is a prelude to chaos, then maybe something can be done about it, that doesn't involve artificially embracing 1950s worldviews.
also there's no point to changing some things and not others, like trying to control the social order, but still letting the banks (jews) centralize and consolidate power in the form of debt-money. because the latter is a recipe for the former.

>muh AI
We have more basic problems to solve first.
Yes a lot of jobs have heel lost and will be lost more, but these are mundane robot jobs anyway so actually the quality of life has improved.
I couldn't care less about the degenerates who are not willing to adapt. Why would building an egalitarian utopia would be a good purpose anyway?
Fuck poor people and socialists, I don't want to live in the same society with you. You can fuck off and die.

>Nothing demonstrates the facility of the idea of "the west" as a Georgian man saying "our western civilization".
Oy vey)) Let me guess - you are a russian jew, aren't you))?
Georgia has indeed been the part of the west (although its periphery, with all the consequences), especially in the religious context (which is what I was talking about).

That stuff is 20, 30 years out - what will we talk about in the meantime?

For a very long time, not even Greece was part of "the west".

Transhumanism is Judaism

>That stuff is 20, 30 years out - what will we talk about in the meantime?
Tits VS ass, I suppose?

>Transhumanism is Judaism
Yes, and it is about making your kids trans with the hormones in water. Now be a good goy and fuck off ;)

>For a very long time, not even Greece was part of "the west".
I would not argue for or against the greece, but this country had a european feudal system, was christian, fought in crusades and until being overrun by muslims and mongoloid russians, was in touch with europe.

Tldr.
Thank you for exposing the lie of "space".

Flat earth thread.

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I am not saying it is impossible for Georgia to be considered part of "the west". On the contrary, I'm saying "the west" is a concept malleable and slippery enough for you to squeeze in any desired set of cultures or countries.

It is this vagueness that makes it a bit of a bullshit concept to begin with.

currentaffairs.org/2018/06/dismantling-the-west

>God's footstool doesn't wobble
If this means anything, it's a reference to God's literal physical footstool. You know, the Ark of the Covenant.
It's an extension of common near eastern depiction of kings and gods.
btw, the actual quote from Isaiah 66:1 is
>Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool.

also,
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>youtube.com/watch?v=hyaftqCORT4
Uhmmm.. Yeah, now i think I get it.
So you are an adept of poststructuralism and together with this "arty druggie thot", are trying to deconstruct "the west"?
What a noble endeavor for a young jew!
But no, this pillpull does not cut here. The west is the west and it exists.
BTW, did you know that black pepper in Georgian is also "pilpili"? ))

Where's my Jetsons you happy clappy reddit nigger?

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>BTW, did you know that black pepper in Georgian is also "pilpili"? ))
hmmmmm
it's almost as if they they come from the same root
almost... as if.... "pilpul" is the hebrew word for pepper!

>Where's my Jetsons you happy clappy reddit nigger?
dude, do you honestly want me to say it? Come on, I just really don't want to be an asshole.

In the year two thouuuusaaaannndddd

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>hmmmmm
it's almost as if they they come from the same root
almost... as if.... "pilpul" is the hebrew word for pepper!
Yes, I know, that's why I told you that. Surprising amount of jewish words in georgian)
baiti means house in georgian slang for instance

>dude just sell out your family bcuz stuff
I wonder why no one takes you seriously
Kill yourself
Anyone that didn’t say to kill your self needs to go back

The fact is technology has largely peaked and it will now recede as the world collapses, people are getting dumber not smarter and thinking "gene editing" is going to fix everything is as naive and delusional as thinking Magic Sky Man is going to teleport us all to Perfect Forever World.

>The 18th century man had much more common with the ancient babylonians culturally, than with us
kys retard

Well put, Shlomo. In fact, isn't it know to you chosen ones that each generation is a degradation of the previous generation? Someone told me that once.

>the culture of individualism
Gay.

Your race is a force of decay, rot, and stagnation. Your word spells death for any who listen.

You tech chirpy faggot take a benign direction as a given. Like all the butt burglars of socal are going to come together and make shit work out for the betterment of mankind. What you are looking at is a multicultural hellscape with Elysium style islands of smugness.

Tech is first and foremost going to be used to keep the whole fucking shitshow together, with control and restrictions.
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Because we barely know everything that will happen if we change some dna strand in the brain to function in what we deem is a superior way, not acounting for the related aspects of DNA, and some of the services that part of DNA had functioned to accomodate a differing cell's functions, and even when we do account for all of it, their might be unintended psychological consequences because we implemented something we thought would improve a certain part of the brain, but it's overfunctioning in compared to other functions might decrease empathy, increase pride and envy through increased informational intake and tendency to create relational structures comparing ourselves to other's as an unintended consequence of admiration, mixed with personal insecurities and suffering because of percieved self inadequecies.

So many variables, psychological, functional, genetically functioning relations, and in SO. MANY. WAYS. Your tampering with God's work and evolution, with an organism comprised of billions of cells possessing hundreds of different tasks, that work in great part, in homeostasis with other branches of the body and electrical synapses firing in harmony.

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Another russian jew here.
>Jow Forums defends"traditional ways/values"
Not exactly what pol is concerned about, Jow Forums main concern is 1488. Pol is not trying to preserve traditions, but existence of the white children and this is a very natural thing to do.
What you are saying is 'relax guys muh ai and technology will save the human race and people of the future will get better genetics and better techno toys'. But honestly don't you want YOUR offspring to enjoy this bright future or you don't care and any child will do?

>muh technological growth
This

The chinks and other subhuman maniacs should be smacked the fuck down for the single reason alone that they are not fit to meddle in things such as gene editing. I agree with JFG on this. They are lose cannons regarding all sorts of tech advancements along the lines of what OP is talking about.

It's like the autistic retards who created the welfare state, which inherently disincentivised the family unit via a previously overt undeniable fundamental knowledge that the family was the only true metric of welfare, who's members concern was genuine and would never resort to identifying you as a statistically inconvenienced portion of society to be discounted for the sake of an interest in maintaining popularity with the majority. Personal responsibility used to reign supreme, as the other's family and your parents grew up with values not made vague by society softening the impact and decreasing reliance upon it. Child Support no longer made the financial obligation of bearing children as harsh and individualistic as before, thus parents, women and men looked upon it as less severe in consequence and to have caused as much suffering. It's horrible to grow up in a single parent household. Now, after the collapse of the family, through financial struggle and inability to divulge values to children on the part of the parents, among other circumstantial hardships inherent to the situation of single-mother households, crime and ghetto animalistic dominance based culture has taken root in fiscally poor parts of society.

We got to the moon without betraying our values. We managed to go through the Industrials Revolution while holding onto traditional families and values. Just because we have self driving cars doesn’t mean I should marry a gay black tranny with HIV and daddy issues

Based

The working poor with intact nuclear families can divulge some of the greatest teachings to their children about their life experiences, to help them through life's trials, and to appreciate religion, as while the affluent look upon religion as faulty, the poor appreciate the communal help programs most Christian parishes of all stripes involve themselves with, as well as helping third world countries. Religion is the source of our altruistic values, our concept of natural rights (despite their being millions of living humans to replace someone) and highly inquisitive nature of Western society. Most Antifa, and Fedora Lords probably haven't visited a single church in their entire life.

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Well... the affluent tend to depreciate the degree of esteem to which they hold religion

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not so much "faulty," as I'm affluent

Our beloved center of understanding and comprehension of the universe's seemingly infinite mysteries and possibilities many as of yet divulged to us (we can't even get off this planet, despite having the technological capability because nobody understands the intrinsic component of self-interest of profession, institution, and tributaries to personal success), founder of the first University in western civilization, the institution from which the word scholastic came from, Christianity.

Contemplation, meditation, not withdrawal from earth's pleasures, but giving them to those of which have a higher appreciation for unappreciated indulgences.

youtube.com/watch?v=s7GqDZiI7d4

OH SACRED MYSTERIES WHICH HAVE GRIPPED MY HEART! PROCLAIM YOUR GRANDEUR TO ALL THOSE, ENRICH THEIR LIVES WITH YOUR SACRED TRUTHS DIVINATING MEANING!

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He speaks for himself, some of us techs, namely the 60% German physics major that hopes to join his fellow small town German engineer at space-X, actually understand appreciate religion.

You know nothing about gene editing let alone AI. Terrible thread. Unironically kill yourself.

Human nature is not degraded, neigh, it is in many cases superior to our callous interpretations of what is and should be considered logical, which is often subjective. Our care for one another protected us against predators, and ailment, for tens of thousands of years. We did not discard someone at the merest convenience simply because we had the luxury of numbers to do so, simply to protect ourselves and "greater society."

As many rationalizations that humanity ponders a possible existence to, many remain incorrect, some are presupposed causational relationships that are merely based on coincidental logic, or related properties to the desired occurance to what actually takes place.

Many contemporary mathematical formulas seem to be incompatible with each other in many disciplines, such as quantum mechanics versus atomic mechanics, yet is their a contradiction, or is it that we are merely able to explain behaviors that involve those mathematics?

often subjective, and based on our limited experience and knowledge in other fields.

It's actually kind of laughable thinking about niggers and spics experimenting with genetics if only for the mere frantic screaming of their nigger/spic patient who willingly

"Kentucky Chicken! Black Jesus!!! Negro men superior and destined to give birth to me, new black Che Guevera (who hated blacks)!!!! AAAAAAAAGGHHHH!!!!" while his eyes are leaking blood, and bloodshot, and he's blind with a bunch of overdressed untermensch chasing after him looking like they raided daddies prop closet. AHAHAHAHAAA!!!