GAB: This is a knife in the heart of the 'woke' tech culture

Decentralize social network is the future. Everything else will fail. Gab isn't an exception and once it gets yuge it will follow the footsteps of Twitter and Facebook.

Jow Forums should go full retard and decentralize

Is the account-making not free?

bump for freedom of speech

so from what I understand, Gab forked Mastodon, which is open source, and the license allows that, but now the leftist retards are freaking out and are realizing they can't stop Gab because of the aforementioned licensing?

if that is even remotely what happened, god damn that is hilarious

>>Gab is #FreeSpeech
>So why do I need to make an account there?

If any thing, just the thought of how much your helping to use a technology leftists designed against them. Really salts their ass. lol. Its also poetic in a way because by fighting us they are exposing themselves as being hypocrites. Think of everytime the Don got the best of em on a political landscape, we'd be doing the same thing but on the internet front.

How is free association (ie, blocking or not following you via instances) censorship? Geez you seem to not even understand how Mastodon works. It's based on community moderated instances. If anything it's the identity politik on there that are freaked out that they share a technology with racists.
Frankly it had to happen eventually. And just you wait until there's a completely non-moderated non-instanced type of network out there. It'll have fully and irrevocably illegal shit like CP on there. (Freenet is basically a CP storage device in that respect, but it runs like shit.)

>Jow Forums should go full retard and decentralize

*Grabs book to place over his massive boner

>so from what I understand, Gab forked Mastodon, which is open source, and the license allows that, but now the leftist retards are freaking out and are realizing they can't stop Gab because of the aforementioned licensing?

excellent summary user...

Isnt it based in Israel?

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Yes

They're all for free open source, until of course someone they don't like uses it

Do they still ban lolis?

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Someone do a traaceroute...

Disgusting

> Leftist
> Libertarian
user, I ....

Techie here. Wtf is Gab? We use Blind. Most are lowkey redpilled but we keep our mouths shut IRL and collect our fat stacks. I work at FB even and can confirm from our private (verification required) board

What's Mastodon?

Gab sucks. Torba handed over his database to the FBI (without a court order- he did it on his own initiative), and the FBI then handed it over to the SPLC. They probably still have the place backdoored now. That and torba arbitrarily bans people without explanation or justification. Just *poof* one day your account has been deleted for no reason.

Exactly. Only thing I don't like about the transition is that you can't browse it anymore without a login.

When I started hearing, years ago, that people who ran silk road and operated on the deep web and proselytized about all of these sick beliefs like "child porn should be legal" because they were "left-wing libertarians" were totally cool with the censorship of anyone right of center, I really realized that the evil that dwelled in them was some much deeper than I had originally thought.

And even just a couple years ago, deep web people who are totally cool with selling heroin and guns and child porn were like "yeah we gotta keep Andrew Anglin and the Daily Stormer off the deep web! We don't want to give him a platform!" and I was just like "yeah holy shit this whole thing was literally just an organized effort to eat our culture, society and values away from the inside the whole time.

And that's what "left libertarianism" always is. There IS no such thing as "left libertarianism" anyway since "left" automatically implies government is the fix to whatever problem you identify. Obviously if you're using government, a monopoly on violence, to get your way then you're doing it at the expense of someone elses freedom.

All "left libertarians" are subversives trying to destroy us.

And IDK I am speaking as a libertarian myself. I don't think CP should be legal obviously but prob drugs, ultimately. Nevertheless you should never be too stupid to understand the 90% of the people pushing for something like legal drugs (including marijuana) are just literally, consciously doing it in an effort to erode your society and destroy you. They're doing it intentionally. That's the sick part, and they're using "freedom" as a pleasant sounding, shiny, thinly veiled justification for their agenda. Once you really come to understand that, you start to really understand the depths of the evil and manipulation that has created our system.

read this

spyware.neocities.org/articles/dissenter.html

Yes, basically.
Some faggot app developers implemented hardcoded bans for gab in their apps (tusky for example would rickroll you when trying to connect to gab), but gab just made a fork of tusky.
Now Google is going to ban the new app from their play store.
Imagine this - banning a client only because it is able to connect to any network! Are they going to ban browsers next? Google is truly evil.

It bills itself as a free speech microblogging platform. Basically how Twitter used to be before they started banning everyone a fee years ago. In reality, it doesn't have free speech and is just a meeting ground for Q-tarded MIGApedes

Source user..You made the claim. Source or GTFO! *Points to the door

yes. right now mastodon is in a state of civil war between mastodon.social (one of the biggest instances and full of SJW that would make twitterfags look like Jow Forums) and Gab (which is now the biggest instance). the fags at mastodon.social and similar instances are trying to do everything they can do to block gab and kiwifarms everywhere, including in third-party apps. some fag on Jow Forums said that gab is also blocking every other instance from appearing in their feeds, but I don't know if that's true or not

Do you have a source on this?
It would be unforgivable.

What can I do on Gab that I can't do more effectively here?

What do you want Torba? Il sign up when even a single interesting thing happens on your website

Feel free to post any gab links or screenshots of something even vaguely interesting at any time

What is wrong with you?

So the FBI works for SPLC lol?

Yes. I still laugh at how Gab blocked and banned all pro-loli accounts on Twitter and on their own social network only for them to be blocked and banned by Twitter.

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I like what Gab stands for unfortunately it can't win over enough people. It's a right wing echo chamber.

Gab's a honeypot, and will terminate accounts for thought crime, just like the other zogged social media counterparts.

Torba himself admitted he went right to the FBI after the Bowers shooting. Then later the SPLC published private messages from gab that they only could have gotten if torba had provided them.

I saw in another thread Gab had sold out and would hand over its users info to the state

>Jow Forums Whats the fucking deal with GAB anway Is it based it not
They ban 2D loli because of muh feels, so they do the same "if we don't like it, we ban it" bullshit lefties adore. Love them or hate them, lolis are the canary of the coal mine of free speech.
Not to mention the userbase seems to consist of alt-right kiddies straight out of r/thedonald and kiketube.

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You are so full of fucking shit, actual left libertarians do not give two fucks about whatever the fuck you want to share or do on a platform. Go read the shit that's posted on Freenet's dark web forums. Most of the "dark web" is actually a TOR backend to a frontfacing website ran in a cloud server somewhere. You can't actually access the website from the web though, but the IP address goes to the web. Freenet has plenty of right wing nazi propaganda as well as full on child porn. The people that are crying about the Gab fork are just liberals or moderates, they don't delve that deeply into the philosophy.
Also identity politic "anarchists" are just idiot zoomers and loser millennial who are so consumed by identity politics previous anarchists would call them centrists or capitalist right wingers at this point.

Some years ago, most techies would be truly libertarian. But they got completely pozzed.
Why and how this happened remains a mystery to me.

I don't care massively as my favorite loli artists still use twitter and don't get banned there, but I find it interesting that Gab seems to be run by hypocrites.

Those employees are indian code monkeys, they don't think shit.

its such a weird over-reaction on the side of the mastadon people. More users should make them happy. And not everyone who uses gab is going to be a Nazi. Most people are just Q-tards and the_donald posters pretty inocuous.

The cloud / data center became far more useful for disseminating info and data (and nothing beats the cloud) and their idealized dreams of a truly free utopia were dashed rapidly. Also, corporations happily took open source and shared it not because they wanted to give users the "freedom" to mess with their hardware, it was done solely so vendors and manufacturers could have easier access to each others code so they could do their own implementations and drivers and such. The end result is somewhat the same, but it really disillusioned a lot of these Gen Xers who were dreaming of a world without copyright and where everyone shared everything freely, because that's not how the corporate world works.

Almost anyone with a brain in tech has either been replaced by a streetshitter or keeps their mouth shut about everything to avoid a trip to the HR roastie. Now tech mostly consists of "diverse" shitskins on worker visas and women that are there for the nice chairs and air conditioning.

>left libertarians

Where can I read more about leftist libertarianism? Wikipedia doesnt explain shit well

Search anarchism. There will be fags here who have red/black flags from time to time. Some of them LARP some of them are geniune, if any of them gets into a discussion about identity politics and seriously debates it they're not anarchists because anarchism is anti-political and identity politics is a non-starter.

The sad bit is that all of the distributed internet technology is being pioneered by left anarchist types. All the right seems to be able to do is sit around, trade crypto, jerk off, and cry when corporate platforms ban them.

Is it really that bad?
Holy fuck.

>free speech

a passive hugbox echo chamber for normies who will do nothing to change the course of history.

I am not full of shit at all and this wall of text just sounds like some redditor who got upset that someone put down his favorite Marvel Avenger and then rushed to his keyboard to defend them. I just mean, it's long on platitude and very short on substance.

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>Is it really that bad?
>Holy fuck.

um ya bruh...Just think about where all this stuff is located. West Coast, in or around SF. Now imagine an office environment in said place. *gag

Everyone here should know this. Gab is and has been totally fucking compromised from the beginning. Gabbai? Really guys?

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user's not wrong, look up agile scrum, what they do is have Indian H1Bs come to the US, get trained how to code on our platforms, then ship them back to India to work on the code bases there. They get minimum wage cucked here and then go back and wind up getting paid even less there. Boeing got recently backed the fuck off because half their fucking codebase was written by shitskins.

antisocial media > social media

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I have also suspected this and fuck im OP. lol...Im just not sure anons. Maybe we should dig into the creators and stake holders of GAB?

there are already crypto based distributed domains in the works. ICANN is toast.

Wow u mean glomming on to some random faggots twitter clone ruby-on-rails fucking dot com website was a bad idea?

Also lets be real, it doesn't matter how "libertarian" you are. I think freedom is the most important in the world, for example. When it comes to fucking child pornography and shit like that, if you support it, you aren't some "paragon of moral virtue". You're fucking evil. You're not JUST a "degenerate" either. You're a full on, unmistakable sociopath. Period. It's not a matter of "freedom" and anyone who produces child porn or contributes to its production and hides behind that line is automatically full of shit 100% of the time, the end, no further discussion to be had, period.

Boomer

And I HATE to be sitting on here and being like "Ooooooo those people are EVIL" because that's not the sort of person I am, with all the dumb moral faggotry. I just mean though, let's be real people who produce and provide a support and delivery system for child pornography are not "moral" end of story.

No, you're full of shit because as this case shows you can't "keep people off the dark web." I highly doubt you have even delved in the deepest recesses of it.

Proof of horseshoe theory?

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only enrive.org is based

every other fucking place that said they'd be about freedom of speech ended up deleting things that weren't illegal because they felt it was too controversial , either because the site owners were just ridding on the freezepeach wagon and were posers, or because they developed something that in practical terms would not enforce free speech

No the point is that if you believe in fully unfettered free from moderation free from control system you must then accept that there's going to be bad shit on there, it does not speak to any condition about your moralities or what you support or not. That's the point. You can think CP is bad or ar-15 auto conversion kits are bad and still support a platform that enables both to be delivered. It sucks but it is what it is.

Wow u mean glomming on to some random faggots twitter clone ruby-on-rails fucking dot com website was a bad idea?

Who gives a fuck about a specific IMPLEMENTATION, it's about the underlying protocols and algorithms and from what im hearing, their good...

mate boomers can't even use the internet without screwing up lol

t.genx

That’s one of the most retarded nigger charts I have seen in my life

>I just mean though, let's be real people who produce and provide a support

Kill yourself faggot, your trying to blame the tool and not the user...da fuck user, your better then this...

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Gen x can’t use the internet either

what about the sheetrock industry. are they evil and morally abhorrent for producing walls which obscure god knows what?

The underlying protocol was HTTP, you moron. You’re just centralizing everything on some other guys server. Now they’re switching over to ActivityPub (a technology that has existed for years which they did not invent) which provides the opportunity for federation but it will probably amount to nothing.

All the other instances will ban them, unless the online right actually embraces the protocol and starts a constellation of independent instances this move will end up being a no-op for Gab users. Mostly it was just an attempt to circumvent the app ban which also fizzled.

Yeah I think you're dumb children.
The people who run a lot of this deepweb infrastructure could effectively put an end to the child porn and human trafficking industries if they wanted to. As well as a lot of the illegal drug trade, murder for hire and other things.
>No the point is that if you believe in fully unfettered free from moderation free from control system you must then accept that there's going to be bad shit on there
OK.....So the 9 year old girl that's trafficked and forced to perform sexually on camera...is she "free from moderation free from control system" and so forth?
No?
Oh wow. Color me shocked.
It's almost libertarian can be a great thing, but "anarchism" is something entirely different and is entirely based around people who simply want to be able to hold slaves and murder wholesale without ever having to be held accountable. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I mean "anarchism" really can be summed up in exactly one or two sentences:
>WHY won't you let me have the freedom to enslave people and murder whomever I choose? Fucking TYRANT! Fucking FASCIST!"
That's really all there is to it.

>The people who run a lot of this deepweb infrastructure could effectively put an end to the child porn and human trafficking industries if they wanted to
Why would US intelligence ever want to do that?

Gab is ghetto-rigged Twitter.
It's interesting on paper, but so far it's mostly failed.
I hope that they're able to pick up some steam, but that's all.

Let them run that meme until they finally notice the subtle boot pressure on their throats from that left foot.

>the child porn and human trafficking industries

you mean the things that existed before the "deep web" and will exist when it is gone? the latter is as old as humanity itself. human depravity neither increases or decreases with technology or the lack of it -- it's our nature.
fucking hysterical bitch.

oh so you would just murder and rape and do whatever if the government stopped existing huh.
and here you are moralizing. kys.

>you mean the things that existed before the "deep web" and will exist when it is gone?
It's not even a discussion or point open to debate whether or not the free and unfettered access these groups have to the deep web is keeping them in business, proliferating them, giving them markets and creating an entire industry for them. Get off this crap.

Yes, Canadian, that's exactly what I said too. That's exactly what my comment you are replying to says, that I would murder and rape if the government stopped existing. Yup. You did such a good job of summing up my sentiment there. Uh huh. 100% totally.

no. there is a debate. either engage it or fuck off.

Nope. Nope there's actually not a debate on that matter whatsoever, and after your last comment where you said "Oh so you're saying you would just rape and murder if the government was abolished!" or whatever, how can I even take you seriously? You're either a complete flaming retard or a complete flaming sophist. Probably both I dunno man.

Gab made a mistake by catering to the extreme right. It should have attracted everyone.

maybe don't live a life of pornoworship you utter faggot. now begone from my sights.

in your own words you summed up anarchism as such. why would you think that the only thing stopping people from destroying one another is the government unless you yourself would do such a thing if there were no government?
you are a basic bitch boomer. fuck off.

OK but seriously I am just sitting here wondering to myself WHY do people like you do that? Like WHY do you people always come back with some completely made-up strawman deliberate misinterpretation of another persons comments.
"anarchists just want to rape and murder".
"SO YOURE SAYING YOU WANT TO RAPE AND MURDER!"
Like really wtf is that shit? Everyone who shares your particular political views does the exact same thing too. Like literally 100% of them and they do it constantly. There is some human psychological dynamic going on with that that I don't fully understand, cuz it's not just the normal level of strawmanning and intellectual dishonesty. It's just like some flat out pathological, unanimous thing.

It’s so funny watching a group of people who created something to be uncensorable, and are now mad that they can’t use it to censor others. But then again I actually remember a time when google had “don’t be evil” as it’s slogan, and look at it now

Oh wow. "basic bitch boomer", hot damn.
Um aren't we talking about child pornography, opium trade and literal murder for hire here? Which you are openly claiming needs to be left alone to continue unfettered? And then you have the nerve to turn around and shout "why would you think government is the only thing that will stop them!!!!!!" Like I'm sorry, is there something else that is stopping them? Cuz all of those things are thriving on the one place in the universe that is free from government. The deep web.

That sounds terrible. I want to watch this shitshow.

Guns are morally neutral because I like shooty bang bang. Cryptography is evil because pedos make me angery

Quickly, to the question if gab is based or not. No, it is not. When they allow hate speech, they argue that it is part of free speech and that they're principled and shit. Which is true. But when they banned loli they did not explain that a ban on loli was in accordance to Section 2251A of Title 18, United States Code, which would've been fair and righteous. No, instead they just banhammered it because its jewish degeneracy or some shit. However, everything in relation with gab and the fediverse is true and righteous. My mileage with the fediverse has improved as well.

the network effect and normie adoption is still going to be an issue, especially when safe space fediverse all align in their instance banning of gabe. Some have even banned instances that do not ban instances. Deranged.

lol true remember when tor made a stand against nazies but all the child prostitution hidden services are just whatever?

I'm interested to see how gab's fork of mastodon develops. Had trouble running my own pleroma instance.

you have these larger instances deciding for it's hundreds of thousands of users, or millions collectively, what their users cannot look at or interact with. This wouldn't be hurtful to the fediverse if these instances didn't initially market themselves as normie compatible networks for everyone's convenience. Luckily all of this is still small with a chance of more open instances making up a majority of the fediverse. Instance blocking is a great feature, just sucks when it's used, ironically enough, to build walls around itself.

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