Why haven’t you taken the monarchism pill yet?

Press S to spit on Cromwell's face.

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You mean the british monarchy and goverment?
The guys who had the biggest empire and strongest navy on earth and then they got their asses kicked by a bunch of toothless rednecks in the woods who were pissed off about the price of tea and dice?

And then in 1783 the cucked military sent all the losers and traitors to a prison colony and called it Australia?

Oh shit wait....

m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1cFbySdE5Q

It can't be false, since you're not forced to live there where it's owed.
And they do force it, along with the media, since they're the ones who own the (((politicians)))

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>You mean the british monarchy and goverment?
The (((parliament))), sure.
> then they got their asses kicked by a bunch of toothless rednecks in the woods
When was this? Are you participating in the American pastime of fabricating history?

>King of King, lord of lords
>None before me

Enjoy primanocta. I'm sure your child's mother will.

He did a few good things like engaging in piracy against the Spanish or killing the mics.
But most of what he did was awful.

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Genociding the Gaels is very bad.

Because monarchies failed one after another.

>When was this? Are you participating in the American pastime of fabricating history?

Okay I take it back. Some of them might have had teeth.

I have, because I'm an authentic FASCIST!

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And yet not even 70years of democracy were enough to demographically and socially destroy my country.

No thanks. Give back the Kaiser

Literally hasnt been a thing for over 1,000 years and only ever existed in one country.

Great. But when is your fantasy story meant to be set?

Enjoy Game of Thrones, if you're into shitty fiction.

>>What if we just give a bunch of tax money to ONE GUY instead?

Still better than having to give a bunch of tax money to the hundreds of people who payed for your president's election campaign.

Statism = bad
Monarchy = statism
Thus
Monarchy = bad
Prove me wrong.

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Look at the flag. He's a shill

God bless the Czar, rus user

Only Russians need vodka.

Statism = bad = wrong

Oops.

Did you forget about the Revolutionary war? This was how America was birthed from Europe like a cursed/unwanted infant

Society = good.
QED.

The problem with monarchism is that there is no mechanism for a peaceful transfer of power. So if the royal family goes stupid due to inbreeding or drug addiction, then you have to kill them before they kill you. With democracy any leader who turns out to be dumb can be voted out.

>Great. But when is your fantasy story meant to be set?

July 4th, 1776

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who's the guy on the right?

How is societry good? Doesnt God punish magic users in hell for eternity?

You are a liberal

Yea, everyone knows about the (((American Rebellion))), where France bankrupt itself making holding the colonies too expensive for England, and then was never paid back by the traitorous kikes in the new USA. But where was the event you were talking about?

Can't have progress without society. You're using it now.

Wh- what if we had regents or prince-electors to keep things in check but only slightly

Define liberal because I dont know what the hell is that word supposed to even mean in todays world.

If the king goes crazy the next in line will declare himself regent or otherwise force his abdication. This happened for many monarchs, most notably HM King George III

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Anarchist shithead who doesn’t believe in society.

>Man, giving a bunch of tax money to one man sucks
>Wait I got it!!!
>What if we just give a bunch of tax money to a conglomorate of self-serving war-mongering liars instead?
t. not an argument.

>The problem with monarchism is that there is no mechanism for a peaceful transfer of power.
Same with "democracy", since you only ever get the option of more pre-selected "democracy."
At least a monarchy is libertarian, and can't be changed based on simple whim.

>What is the French revolution

Says the Greek.

german fascism = the monarchy of the space-faring (white) mankind

SUCCESSION
WARS

Because I demand accountability from people claiming to be my superiors. Monarchism is system of unaccountable nepotism. Atleast in democracy there is the theoretical possibility of throwing out corrupt assholes without bloodshed. Now the reality is that politicians are unaccountable corrupt nepotist assholes but such was the reality of monarchism. Enlighten dictatorship is in theory the most efficient system however its like the Platos ideal world vs. real world. Ideally its the best but we never get the ideal.

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Very interesting to see 'based and redpilled' people on pol go full liberal mode, totally incapable of freeing themselves of their modernistic perspective of governments.

>Only monarchies have ever had war

>Atleast in democracy there is the theoretical possibility of throwing out corrupt assholes without bloodshed.
It can never be anything but cutting one head off a hydra. Monarchy is an investment.

The last succession war of a major nation was the War of Austrian Succession in the 1740’s. We’ve learned to settle these things civilly.

A banker.

kek

If you are the king you have no reason to be corrupted by interest groups, as you have everything you could ever want. You literally cannot be bribed because money is not something you want or need.

Yet so many kings are corrupt as fuck. The british crown are zionists, the (ex) spanish king is a massively corrupt whoremonger...
your logic just doesn't hold up.

>Yet so many kings are corrupt
Got examples of any real monarchies? Ie. not ones where they're held on a short leash by a parliament?

>It can never be anything but cutting one head off a hydra.

Nothing ever is. Society is in constant warfare against its self. Many can identify one or two of its battlefields but none see the whole picture, not even I. Marx&commies saw the class warfare, while Hitler saw the ethnic battle being waged. Libertarians fight their own skirmishes against the creeping state totalitarianism.

How is a monarch going to fix something that? Also what type of monarchism are we talking about? Symbolic head of state who just sits around looking like relic from the past while politicians run the show? Absolute monarch who does whatever he/she wants? I presume these monarchists want to see the return of the Sun Kings.

I have.

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These kings are under a constitution. They have a fixed (low) salary. They have no real power so it really doesn’t fucking matter what they do. Give me an example of a real monarchy where the king was corrupted by the capitalists and their interest groups.

How would that work?

The next in line is also crazy or stupid from inbreeding. What do?

>since you only ever get the option of more pre-selected "democracy."

How do you mean?

>live in luxury without having to do anything
>still corrupt af
>need even more money to not be corrupt
how does this make you conclude that absolute monarchy is a good idea?

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>Society is in constant warfare against its self.
And that's fine, so long as it is properly managed. Not bowing to the populist winds for the sake of votes is a start, and a unifying practice.
>How is a monarch going to fix something that?
With a gentle touch. Let them fight, but without destruction.
Constitutional is ideal. No need for politicians. Just guidelines for when to take up arms.

no

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It's a matter of perspective.

>If I fuck up I may be killed
Since when, you fucking moron

When you vote, how often do you get the choice of switching away from it? To monarchism, so communism, to technocracy, or anything else? I've only ever seen an approved list of politicians to allegedly choose from.

Ask how and why the fuck inbreeding has happened in current year, and why we've abandoned modern medical technology.

If Nicolas had more sensible people around him, Russia would not have fallen to communists.

And yet monarchs whose power were absolute were more corrupted than the worse of our bought and paid democratic whores..

Even with absolute power they rely on lackies to do their bidding and usually surround themselves with powerful interest groups. Unless you actually genuinely believe that kings get their mandate to rule from God almighty himself you know they are just men and men are corruptible. And as they say: "Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely".

Keep going until someone isn’t. Historically inbreeding wasn’t as bad as people make it out to be and today zero nobles marry their cousins so it is a non-issue.

Russia, England, France, China, India. Pretty much anywhere where there has been monarchy, in fact.

Since literally always. If you cuck your nation too hard people tend to revolt.

The US already had a near perfect government but of course it got like 2000 degenerative diseases that are still killing it.

Yet he didn't because monarchs usually surround themselves with people who aren't the brightest around but have the proper incestuous pedigree.

>And yet monarchs whose power were absolute were more corrupted than the worse of our bought and paid democratic whores..

Care to substantiate that claim?

And I do not think power itself corrupts people. It is the influences around someone that corrupts them.

based

won with the blood of thousands of innocents, the persecution and exile of religion and its replacement with (((satanic))) elements and the reign of terror, not because of the system which could hardly be considered a republic either way

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>Hurr some monarchs have gotten killed hurr
You literal faggots are ignoring the hundreds of shitty monarchs that ruled ineptly for decades

Can't have been too shit then. Aren't you equally ignoring every shitty democracy which people can't escape from?

That's right. If monarch isn't fit for rule and not surrounded by competent folks who are also interested in keeping him in power, country ends up in trouble.

As opposed to the democratically elected leaders who have run the West right into Jewish hands.

When was the last time we had a good president? Oh right. Decades ago. And they can only rule for 8 years max while a good monarch can rule for half a century. Shut the fuck up.

>Care to substantiate that claim?
Caligula. Though they necked him pretty good

How was caligula corrupted? What the fuck are you even talking about?

Elect kings to life terms. When they die or are overthrown, elect a new king.

>expect coherent logic from a republicuck

no monarchy. NATIONAL SOCIALISM

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Tru

He may well have gone a bit batty from epilepsy, but there was often method to the madness, and most of what's recorded about him was butthurt propaganda from after the fact.

>Funny how all these candidates have -berg in their name huh?

Not that I disagree, as I tend favor monarchy as well, but we should give some credit to the industrial revolution and invention of fast and convenient worldwide travel. I'm not entirely confident that a monarchy would survive this level of technology, either.

To elaborate further, a king would still have a Senate, but they would mainly be advisors and work in a bureaucratic function—no parties would be allowed; there can be disagreement and debate but all are loyal to the king and to the nation and cannot go against his will once he makes a decision.

>Aren't you equally ignoring every shitty democracy
Which ones do you have in mind

>Muh Joos
Not an argument

>When was the last time we had a good president?
That’s because our elections are a plutocratic sham caused by the fact that there are private monarchs swinging the elections. Shut the fuck up and go to sleep

>Caligula, although he is described as a noble and moderate emperor during the first six months of his rule. After this, the sources focus upon his cruelty, sadism, extravagance, and sexual perversion, presenting him as an insane tyrant
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caligula

Me thinks being emperor made him go wacko

Unless the monarch is a psychopath he'll be less prone to corruption due to the strength and security of his position. As democratically elected politicians have no security they are forced to tell people what they want to hear, whether those people be corporations, foreign agents, the electorate, basically anyone who can ensure their maintanence of power. Monarchs don't have to do this to the same extent. And crucially, a nation's performance and prestige reflects directly upon the monarch's - this is not true with politicians. Politicians do what they must to hold power for as long as they can for the purposes of then making million-$/£/€ speeches when their political careers are over, Tony Blair being a perfect example. It doesn't matter to them if they destroy the country and ruin its reputation, it's all about them - themselves. Monarchs don't have the same leisure of retiring to a life of self-indulgent opulence, if they want such a life they at least have to maintain the country.

unironically a pretty compelling argument OP but what happens if the monarch family are all in on being ruthless assholes and rule with an iron fist and make everyones lives miserable? how does that work in the modern era where people can be easily controlled and oppressed where as in the past everyone could take up arms easily and overthrow the ruling body?

>Jew stuff

Jews already have their own nation, why would they be in the running to be king of ours?

You cannot prove that him having power had anything to do with his madness. And he was quite swiftly murdered for the better in favor of the great emperor Nero.