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Jow Forums, convince to become a Christian again. A part of me wants to believe but the other part rejects it because it can be hypocritical and illogical. Been watching a bunch of philosophy videos on the existence of God but came to no conclusion
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Read the Slavic-Aryan Vedas instead

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and yet more Christian spam

im interested, teach me more about it

Ask Jesus to give you proofs. Pray and read the Bible. Visit a church. Try and find a connection to Him instead of reasoning yourself to faith.

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Jow Forums is a Christian board.
Go into the archives and go back as far as you possibly can.
Yep, still a Christian board.
Only God can show himself to you.
Pray to Jesus Christ to reveal himself to you, pray for him to help you break free from whatever sins you are actively committing that are blocking the light from entering.
There are many factors at play. In my experience most people who say they want to be Christians but can't, are actively living in sin and choosing to pursue temptations of the flesh instead of resist them.
Quit smoking weed and taking psychedelics, quit watching porn and masturbating, quit lusting after women, quit being fat and indulgent, quit getting drunk.
Start praying, reading the New Testament, and practice fasting. A good way to fast is 2-3 times a week don't eat for 24 hours. So if you have dinner at 7 PM, don't eat again the next day until 7 PM and repeat this Wednesday, Friday, and Sunday.

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Put Yahweh, the Jew-god to the test and ask him to lift a paperclip. Can he do it?

You've already written it off, there is no convincing you.

>Jesus answered him, “It is also written: ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.’ ”
Matthew 4:7

Just be a good person and god will be pleased...
Don't waste your life with futile things...

user, I’m in the same boat. I’m convinced I’ve fallen far from God. Thing is, if I’m being completely honest, I wonder how close the end is. Supposedly this whole rising tension with Iran is biblical prophecy, and many other prophecies from Revelation has been happening recently. These things coupled with the absolute clown world state of the US, and EU. Think about it. Just 5 years ago, not even half of the idiocracy going on now was in the world. The three things that conflict me most are these.
1.) I’m basically addicted to porn and masturbation. (Lust)
2.) I hate pretty much all blacks. (With the exception of a few throughout my lifetime.)
And 3.) I genuinely despise race mixing.(I wish I could marry a Japanese woman, but I don’t want to have a child; preferably would like a single mother.)

I don’t know if 3 is a sin per say, but the amount of hate that comes over me when I see or think about it is insane.
Anons; I want to be saved, but I need help. Also, I want to teach English in Japan, but idk if the would’ve will be here in 4 years for me to get my degree. Any advice appreciated.
Please help anons.. even a Nazi needs support every now and again...

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Stop being a protestamt, that leads to atheism. Become Catholic and take it seriously, strive for sainthood, or become an Orthodox Christian. It doesn't matter. Anything with valid sacraments is better than protestant nonsense. Read philosophy, read the lives of the saints, read the Holy Scriptures, etc. and renounce degenerate behaviour.

Elijah’s Prayer

36At the time of the evening sacrifice, Elijah the prophet approached the altar and said, “O LORD, God of Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, let it be known this day that You are God in Israel and that I am Your servant and have done all these things at Your command. 37Answer me, O LORD! Answer me, so that this people will know that You, the LORD, are God, and that You have turned their hearts back again.”

38Then the fire of the LORD fell and consumed the sacrifice, the wood, the stones, and the dust, and it licked up the water in the trench.

go look up the story it's a good one

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here please watch all these broski

and to assume you understand omnitpotence is pure preprogrammed human error due to the ego serpent's limitations

>and to assume you understand omnitpotence is pure preprogrammed human error due to the ego serpent's limitations
Just say he can't do it.

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eat shit heathen nigger

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nigger

Its simple. Humans used to practice human sacrifice. Some humans got smart and realized that all human dna is precious so a guy named Jesus capitalized on that concept and died so there would be no more need to sacrifice because wede killed God. Theres some rules and stuff that make not being a total piece of shit easier to navigate

God does not owe you proof. God does not owe you miracles. God does not owe you salvation. You've been given plenty now work with it. If you're so insistent on blaspheming, that is also a perfectly acceptable scenario since the world does not revolve around you nor is it incumbent on the salvation of your soul. Grow up a little.

If God cannot lift my paperclip, I will not forgive him.

Foundational beliefs (why Genesis/the Word is literally true):
youtu.be/meIg-TyDm-g

What it means to be Spiritual:
youtu.be/HDyQQUpe3h4

What the devil is doing in the world:
youtu.be/kFtI_mVOXbQ

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Christianity like Judaism and Islam is a disease upon the human brain and has accelerated the Germanic race over two thousand years time into a degenerated state, it has brought a lot of good, but it is not needed anymore, so it should be discarded with

I started reading Lee Strobel's "The Case for a Creator". I've been trying to verify some of the claims for myself. So far I've found that the argument was not as cut-and-dry as I thought.

This is one of the experts that Strobel questions: youtu.be/7pk9oDrpf6k
found that he has a presence online with content to sift through

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that atheism is so obviously right*

Welcome to the atheism recovery therapy. It goes something like this:
Atheism > study study study > agnostic > become broadly spiritual > study religions > understand that the only one that makes sense is Christianity > become protestant/non-denominational/online follower of Pastor Memerson > study study study > understand that you need the sacraments and the Eucharist to regulate your spiritual life > become Catholic/Orthodox

Try not to skip any of the steps otherwise your spiritual enlightenment won't be as impactful.

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Life is really short. Connecting to God is the only thing in life that makes me feel clean and alive.

The majority of humans throughout the majority of human history have always believed in god/s
if you find yourself in a tiny spec of time also known as current year not believing in the existence of god/s then you are also apart of a new experience within a tiny minority of time compared to the majority of history .
This does not make you special neither does believing in god/s as doing so is the historical norm.

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Take your time studying things. The main problem you will come to if you veer to pagan-ish or occult things is that they have a lack of theology and teleology. They are how-to guides for cool ceremonies, but they don't tell you what you are, where you come from, and what purpose your existence serves.

If you move on to better constructed religions, that leaves you with the big abrahamic ones and maybe buddhism. Buddhism gets it wrong when it tries to analyze desire and how to best it. The problem with buddhism is that you will fail and will be punished through reincarnation.
Judaism is an exclusive club and you can't just join it. Islam is the exact opposite and works like a virus, the more you study it, the more you see that it tries to program everything about you, even the way you shit.

When you have studied all and come back to Christianity, you realize it is the one that puts free will and redemption at the center. Free will is the most precious thing you have, the capacity to master your own existence and to chose which desires you follow. Nearly all of our current existence tries to undermine this, for (((some reason))). Explore that.
Also, explore the grace of forgiveness. You know you are inherently "lesser" than you could be, sinful. How does it feel to know someone loved you so much he gave you an escape from your own insufficiencies? Common reactions are laughter, disbelief and fear. Explore that. Lean into those feelings.

I won’t try to convince you but I will simply ask that when you go to bed tonight that you ask Jesus Christ to save you, honestly confess that you want to walk the walk and ask for the strength to do so.

>Our God is a jealous God.
Never understood that part.
If God is ALL, why is workshipping a part of him while still considering it a part or aspect of THE almighty wrong?
Why is it wrong to be respectful to other deities on other countries? Shouldn't it be simple manners to respect someone's "house"?
How is it wrong to devote yourself to THE God while still being in good terms with other deities and spirits? Is asking a neighbor if you can borrow some sugar or a monetary exchange of any kind sinful? When you give an offering to a deity and expect something in return, is it not simply trade? Asking for a friend. It's unclear why one would be punished for that.

let's say god is the all powerful, all knowing and all loving being
and let's also say that solipcism is true (aka occams razor and scientific theory): if you cannot prove it exists, it does not exist.
okay, so then we jump over to descartes, I think therefore I am. Or put another way, I am because I think. With no other proof of any other thought in existence, your conciousness is the only thing that exists.
Going from there, your thought is everything, and you control what you think, then you are omnipotent. Indeed, your know what you think, yourself, you are omniscient. And, just assuming you love yourself, you love everything.
What do you know, OP? Turns out, you're god (even though, as I write this, I know that I cannot prove your existence)
But wait! What if solipcism is false, you say. Well, not only is occams razor and scientific method BTFO, but it means things exist without proof.
Now, assuming things can exist without proof, I hesitate to say god might be the first thing on the list.

There, OP. Either you can live out your life nihilistically, clown-world type hedonism who cares, it's all just you and your thought. OR things do exist without proof.

jew god is a jealous pagan god, make no mistake.

You don't ask us OP.

You get on your knees with repentance and yearning in your heart and ask Christ himself to help you grow faithful to him

Every culture has tried to find God in their own way, most have relatively similar values (don't take others' stuff, don't kill for no reason etc). Even the Jews got it wrong, at first they thought of God as a male-female pair. Eventually, through reaching out, they got it a bit more right. I think God hoped that if human figured it out by themselves more or less, they would adhere to it more. Unfortunately that's not what happened. So at some point he pulls out the big guns and incarnates his only son, giving everyone the ticket out. But because we have free will, he makes the thing happen, but leaves us with doing what we want to do.
So, the systems people made before, whether that's hinduïsm or norse paganism or whatever are basically obsolete. If you have no modern medicine, you go see the shaman and hope that shaking a few bones in your face will cure you because you know no better. But if you know that you have access to decent surgery and a knowledgeable doctor and you still go to your shaman, that's where you get it wrong.

Also, God doesn't reach out to punish you, you do it to yourself. Not saying that you might never get something in return, but just like going to the shaman with your broken leg might leave you with a limp, asking other spirits for something might backfire. The world has been shaped this way, and if you chose to go to the wrong path, then it's up to you to deal with the results.

That being said, don't disrespect people's temples or houses of worship.

The faith itself is strange and shady. If the golden calf was an idol then literally every Christian is doing it wrong now. How does the concept of worshipping Christ contradict with honoring some other entities for their righteous deeds if you only acknowledge one and only God and savior?

The idol was a problem because they worshiped it as if it was God.
You can worship saints and so on at least in Catholicism as long as you recognize that they were not and are not God himself but people who benefited from God's grace.

start watching Pastor Anderson's vids.
Browse his channel and youll find videos covering just about every topic

Also, pray to God for Him to guide you

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>You can worship saints
You can not. Worship or adoration (latria) is exclusive to God. We venerate the Saints (dulia) and we reserve special veneration to Our Blessed Mother the Queen of Heaven (hiperdulia).

>start watching Pastor Anderson's vids.
Do you want him to remain ignorant?

The problem is that you don't know who you are honoring, and what you will get. Ever seen that Wishmaster movie? It was trash but basically when people wish for something they often don't know what is good for them.

Also the more you read up on other entities, you realize it is duty-based. A lot of sacrifices are done to stave off things, because humans are afraid of them, because they demand their tribute from humans. On the opposite, the force in christianity is love, of each and every human no matter how imperfect. You can do sacrifices but they are elective - you don't HAVE to kill a goat to get good weather at sea for example, it doesn't work like that.

look at how the old testament foreshadowed the coming of christ

thanks for the correction, i'm not Catholic so the precise terminology and distinctions are unknown by me

AFAIK Jesus really nails the concept of sin being something that you do to yourself and that enslaves and destroys you.
What about honoring non Christian deities not as deities but as guardians or wise beings? Some Catholic saints seem to replace classical gods as patrons of this and that.
Athena has been around for a very long time, and the record shows things went fairly well

Jesus shot Paddock

he's a hero

looks pretty based so far. Bless you, russanon!

Athena is the name ancient Greeks gave to the concept of Sophia, more or less - they even got it right that it was a woman. Now, should you honor her as a goddess? No, because there is only one God.
Is the virtue of wisdom something that you want? Sure. Would it help guide you, etc? Yes, it is a good thing. But it's not a divinity in its own right. In that sense, there's nothing wrong with reading myths and legend for inspiration and to understand more about yourself. For example I love the ancient plays because they had already understood a whole lot about human nature.

Catholic saints / patrons replace certain divinities because they are better "conduits" to God if you want, and also because you know that on the other end, God is listening. One of the dangers of trying to get on other spiritual entities' good side is that you don't know who is listening. People often act like devils or demons aren't real things, but they are.

Athena is Minerva

arms behind the back

2 chronicles 19:2 you have a religious obligation to name the jew wherever you might find it
2 john 9:11 it is sinful to permit jewry

>remove jews
>go to hell with them
choose one

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Todd White or Dan Mohler.

These two guys really ger a good sense of what it's really all about. By no means are they God himself. But God lives in them. Even Christians can inadvertantly follow demonic teaching or principles through ignorance.

Stick to the truth and you will find your spirit ever more full of life and light. It can and probably will be very painful at times. But in a life sometimes full of pain, some pains are more than worth it. For truth is eternal. God bless man. Hope to see you in heaven one day.

What is your point?

Minerva is the name the Romans use for Athena. Arms behind the back are typical for Nikè-type statues, which Athena often holds in her hand.

I think this is by far the most compelling argument for Christianity. Jews had all these prophets for hundreds and hundreds of years, their records clearly foretold of a King, then they had all this apocalyptic disasters rain down on them with the culmination of the destruction of the Second Temple yet they actively deny Our Lord Christ who is at the very centre of all this. The Muslims have no roots whatsoever, they simply sprouted out of nothing with dubious theology and a premise that has been historically smashed over and over again (that the Bible has been tapered with), also the biggest miracle of Islam is having uncorrupted scriptures, but while they are always crying that we don't have originals of anything, they themselves are not subject to the same level of scrutiny when the earlier texts we have of the Quran and the Sunas are all 2 centuries after Mohamed has died. They also don't do archaeology despite how it would enlighten the many historical contradictions of Islam like Mohamed living the Mecca when the early Mosques all point to Petra.

>i'm not Catholic
It's never too late to return home, danone.

>Some Catholic saints seem to replace classical gods as patrons of this and that.
It's merely accidental. Some of the lives of the martyrs and the saints lend themselves to certain patronages, so it's not strange for there to be some overlap with classical deities. I remind you that Hermes (Mercury) was a psychopompos, the patron god of merchants, of thieves and of magic; this patronages (except for the merchants) are all absent in Catholic hagiology.

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Minerva Rule

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>patronage of magic
More or less Saint Cyprian, desu.

Do you want to be lost and afraid forever OP? God is a personal connection take your time to understand. Universal rights and wrongs are the key to understanding the actual philosophy.

You too. Start thinking universal rights and wrongs. Commies(all) and niggers(not all) will drag us into the abyss. Stop hating and stop focusing on Revelations like a heretic. Nobody knows the time and date.

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911 was a good indicator

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Not the only god #nottheonlygod

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Well, the good news is that you realize that you are addicted. You probably are also addicted to anger. Somehow, when you feel powerless, starting to feel angry is a way to feel like you can still do something, like a scared toddler. Also pic related.

As for your plan of going to Japan, well, what for user? Ask yourself where do these ideas and wishes come from? That can already help you.

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Part 2.

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>old testament foreshadowed the coming of christ
>I think this is by far the most compelling argument for Christianity.
Then Christianity has no compelling argument, because that's a terrible one. The people who wrote the New Testament would have been familiar with Old Testament prophesies, and prophecies in general tend to be unspecific and easily twisted to fit events (just look at Nostradamus or astrology).

Best post, literally spit my coffee

>dont test my imaginary god because youll see nothing is going to happen, just keep believing with “faith”

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Why would you want to believe?

People in the time of Christ thought the time was upon them. So did Christians during the fall of Rome. The times of viking raids did the same. Remember in 2002 evangelicals were brainwashed into thinking Saddam was the antichrist?

You give power to Lucifer and his servants on Earth thinking like that.

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It's aggravating seeing people who want to find God yet they want to bargain with God to remain sinners. Nobody expect you to become sinless overnight, user, but at the very least you should strive for sanctity. Don't fall for wishy washy protestant theology and seek the sacraments, understand how you respectfully and piously approach the Eucharist and do it often. Go Catholic or go Orthodox, just avoid the protestant poison as much as possible. And stop bargaining with God for you to continue sinning, He does not owe you salvation, His love is caritas (charity) and you are begging for His mercy and His salvation.

>this argument again
>brought to you by the same people who unironically believe the Ceaser's Messiah BS
If you take time to gather the evidence and understand that there is no logical way that the New Testament has been falsified and understand that there is a narrative continuum with the Old Testament and if you are of sufficient good faith, then Jow Forums will at the very least lose one shitposter.

> Why would you want to believe?

So he can have a happy life and see the truth at the same time.

God has no rival

got it?

Makes sense. Thanks.
Yeah, I was thinking about Athena and Inanna specifically. Since I was a kid I was reading their myths, and it is weird how sometimes names or a symbols related to it randomly pop sometimes when I read about her these days. Seems based in my book, though there is only one who is THE one. Sometimes it does feel like the old gods are as present as ever.

Happiness is overvalued and that leads to some prosperity gospel nonsense. At the very least, faith will give OP meaning.

> God is shit

Now only if you were brave enough to show a meaningless flag. You live in the darkness.

>If you take time to gather the evidence and understand that there is no logical way that the New Testament has been falsified and understand that there is a narrative continuum with the Old Testament and if you are of sufficient good faith, then Jow Forums will at the very least lose one shitposter.
Nope. Even if the writers of the New Testament were being completely honest, Jesus and his followers would have been familiar with Old Testament prophesy.
>So he can have a happy life
Why would Christianity give you a happy life?
>see the truth
That presupposes that Christianity is true.

The satisfaction of understanding God to a certain extent is very positive.

If some pleb or shitskin demanded you to do something to prove yourself you'd rightly tell him to fuck off. Why do you expect differently from God?

Oddly enough, I was having a lucid nightmare and remembered a post on Jow Forums. to find if a spirit is evil or not asks him if he comes from god. I did and it went mad with rage, then I used the name of god and the dream went back to normal, spirit or whatever got BTFO. Dream got back to the part right before it became a nightmare. Was about to post it on /x/ but fuck it. This seems to be the right place these days.

John 14:18, “I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.”
jesus-is-savior.com/Believer's Corner/i_will_come_to_you.htm

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jesus-is-savior.com/False Doctrines/protestantism.htm
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In the sense that people who think they possess special knowledge are smug assholes.

>but the other part rejects it because it can be hypocritical and illogical
Good thing that the leftist, materialist, atheist cults you describe to aren't, eh?

Fucking incels...

>it can be hypocritical and illogical
How so? There are hypocritical and illogical christians, sure. They are human beings. Where is the hypocrisy or illogic in Christianity?

>demanded you to do something

The fight is with your own self not God. What happens to this entire planet means nothing in the grand scale of things.

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Matthew 10: 34-36
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father and the daughter against her mother and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
Cherry picking
>a kike worshipper's life is the best life
Yep, that's what NPChristian believe.

>worthless words from a worthless book are the truth goy.

If you want the truth is here satanisgod.org/

>go watch a heretics videos

Get behind me, Satan.

So than where does a place exist that means something, and if no such place exists why have a grand scale at all, and if you don't need a grand scale why not say the earth means something.

The "old gods" are just demons in prettier forms. They have different names in different regions, for example Inanna/Isis/Ishtar/Astaroth/Venus/etc. Nothing good can come from them, as the Old Testament clearly tells.

Go jackoff to frazzledrip

>people who think they possess special knowledge are smug assholes

Like Jesus? Nah. The only way to God is humbleness. Theres no benefit to me knowing more than you. In fact i have to make an effort to get you on the right path too.

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I don't agree with all their vids, but this might user
youtube.com/watch?v=fEpvtkb4Nm0
God bless you

>Like Jesus?
Probably.
>In fact i have to make an effort to get you on the right path too.
Neat, then prove that you're correct.

Stop trying to think about it and start trying to feel it.

I don't agree with all their vids, but this might help user
youtube.com/watch?v=fEpvtkb4Nm0
God bless you

You family, your life, your friends all mean something. Where do you want to go? We need to fix this place. The battle in heaven is a mirror of the fight we have on Earth. Good vs Evil.

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If Heaven's real Hitler will be there.

The little jewboi is triggered.

Nah he will remain dead because he was a pagan

Call me a jew while you shill satan, whom the jews worship...

Really activates the almonds

> Neat, then prove that you're correct.

Im here in this thread arent I?? Sorry theres no quota I have to reach. Maybe today isnt the day for you to accept Christ? Free will exists.

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You do realize that you're essentially asking people to make you mentally ill, right?

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what if you are genuinely given good advice by them? there are plenty of stories about that. I lurk /x/ generally.

Fuck off, mohammed