What You Call "White Culture" is Upper-Class Culture

Shakespeare was for the common man

you know who went to the opera? everyone
you know what people did at the opera? talk, walk outside to eat a hot dog and other shit people today do at a fucking football match

you talk shit and you are shit

Retarded fucking leaf

Actually this is true.

That's pretty right, the elites are more and more trying to create distance again from the lower class with immigration and increasing live costs so they can go back to their times of undisputable power and wealth that post-ww2 economies challenged by making even the poor westerner rich

but the classes were not like indian castes- so even if it were true- and it's an exaggeration- so what?

>Mozart's family
>wealthy
Retard. Mozart's father was born to a bookbinder. His grandfather was born to a mason. They were blue collar. Mozart spent 10 years of his childhood touring Europe in a time before paved roads. 5 of his siblings died during childbirth.

Your seethe is a peculiar kind of cope.

Skateboarding is not upperclass

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>Yes but our standards of living today make even our lower families weathy in the eyes of the old peasants.
Not really. Medieval peasants didn't work as hard as modern workers. We may have technology ... but we still need food to live, and food is harder to come by nowadays. Also, medieval aristocrats did basically no actual work because they had servants.

White culture includes the pastoral folk culture that Jews despise and claim is ebil and racist. They take to high culture strong and churn out lots of classical musicians

And Mozart was middle class, like all those composers he came from commoners because musicians were closer to tradesmen or craftsmen instead of the genius artist mentality. Mozart was one of the first to have the latter attitude

nope. Try again

Funny how all refined, smart, upper-class people happen to be white huh

Opera was expensive and otherwise inaccessible until the French Revolution when the middle class was large enough to be reliable customers. Chamber/solo concerts were more accessible to the common man because they were cheaper to program

There have always been grassroots movements in non-white countries. The worker unions in Africa are being suppressed, but they still exist.

Modern agriculture was largely created by the upper class to put smaller farmers out of business.

There has always been lower-class music all over the world.

Loyola, Da Vinci, Shakespeare...

>And it’s not wealth or mannerisms that makes someone quality, kike. It’s their character.
Don't most poltards believe that character, mannerisms and wealth are identical?

Threadly reminder to grab as much high culture and archive offline

At the time, Native American societies were usually actually democratic.

No, medieval Europe was not democratic. Power was inherited.

White culture is the modern world we live in. No people are immune from its draw except the Senegalese.

No he was not black.

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How come his plays were usually about royals and aristocrats then?

same is true of painting- it was a trade. Sculpture too (though there is not much comparatively.

Absolutely true.

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because life of peasant is boring. Lots of peasants ,clowns, drunks etc in the plays however.

>5 of his siblings died during childbirth.
... which was common for all people at the time.

White culture is most the elite slowly closing their way into world domination, then when there successful whites turn around and complain that they don’t get a piece of the pie. Imperialism is just Jews using european nations as proxies, now that we in history is over, they have no use for its people and the will be tossed aside like niggers.

The church was rather democratic i said- he who did job well (broadly speaking- there is always nepotism etc in any institution) would get promoted. Because they had no families. Having trouble reading?

We wuz Mozart n shiet

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What about the smart Jews?

And the nobility never accepted them, either. Beethoven spent his whole life chasing upper class women but could never marry one. Even the greatest genius who completely changed music and Western high art was still rejected from nobility.

Bach had the right idea: marry another musician, have tons of kids, and remain in service to God. Sensibilities that the upper classes lack

era in history*

Bristish Empire, Spanish Empire, Purugese Empire, French etc. just middleman for monster that would eventually consume everything including them. You negotiate with the devil, don’t act surprised when you get the short end of the stick

rednecks have wrote really good songs about niggers that I listen all the time

Poor poeple want to hear about kings. Pageantry is popular.

Diogenes was a hobo.

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And yet they were all better than niggers,

I have no issue with being a foul mouthed southern peasant. I just want to be surrounded by other rednecks. Not hoards of spics and niggers.

Are you implying that Johnny Rebel is better than Mozart?

Where is the culture of the black upper class then?

Diogenes ultimately had a very minimal influence on the culture of Europe. He's mostly remembered as a historical curiosity.

Tell us, Chang, what's the purpose of this thread? Let's even suppose that you're right and that white culture only applies to upper class whites. Does this somehow justify mass immigration and demographic replacement in white countries? Imagine if someone said that Africans had no culture and that we should fill Africa with millions of diverse foreigners so that the locals become a minority in their own countries. Do you think the Africans would be happy about that? Of course not, because every nation should have the right to preserve its own people and culture.

True. Class affects everything in society.

I highly doubt that medieval peasants were more sophisticated than Mansa Musa.

How are spics and niggers different from rednecks?

It's not a contest. The folk music of your people is arguably as important as Western high art, and I say this as a classical musician. It certainly provides a better view of a nation than the cosmopolitan continental European culture of the nobility

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He was Austrian which is basically the same thing as being black.

John Bunyan was a common peasant.

He joked about them of course.
Shakespeare and others at the time had a way of incorporating a little something for every tier of society.
Aristocratic conflict for the middle class
high brow themes for the upper class
sex jokes for the lower class.
And of course there were all sorts of people that liked other parts of it.
If you look at the way the Theateres were made they were clearly meant for that, based on the seating. Or in the case of the floor, no seating at all for the cheapest tickets,
It's actually not so different from movies today (without the jews ofc).

Reminder that there is no such thing as white culture

This is a half-assed argument. It is patent dishonesty to ignore the good that tradition and standards of decency did for the lower classes, even if they were not always adhering to them. It is likewise dishonest to pretend that people's conception of white culture is limited only to high arts or that those arts are somehow the exclusive purview of the wealthy simply because it was the wealthy who tended to produce them.

Yes there is, it's a blanket term for any culture that's primarily made up of Caucasians, anglosaxons, etc. So there is much white culture and many white cultures

Almost all high culture (yes you cited a form of "high culture") is upper class culture, pop culture is jst another word for fads, short lived and moslty without impact on larger time scales. White culture and culture in general, is how people interact, their customs their forms of Art etc. All your shit arguments can be used on all races over the world, thus uttering nothing of any value. Go ahead live in Africa if all lower class people and the culture in their country of ogringin is the same as white countries. You won't because you don't believe in it. You'd much rather live in White countries, on all metrics besides the shit they imported due to retarded reasons like your all cultures/people are equal reasoning.

And?

>Imagine if someone said that Africans had no culture and that we should fill Africa with millions of diverse foreigners so that the locals become a minority in their own countries. Do you think the Africans would be happy about that?
I actually love it when Chink men pound negro bitches and make black bucks cry.

>Of course not, because every nation should have the right to preserve its own people and culture.
No nation deserves that "right" because that "right" restricts the sexual freedom of alpha males.

I don't see race and nation as a big deal. Sex is a big deal though. All men are stronger and smarter than all women. All that really matters is the fact that men are better than women. Don't say this out loud in public because women can't handle the truth. Just keep it in mind and act with the knowledge that women are weaklings who cannot handle harsh realities.

No nation has rights. Only men have rights.

I'm a Gen-Xer who grew up prole in both the UK and Canada, and I can tell you from experience that OP is full of shit. Working-class family structures have collapsed over the past 50 years leading to social decay, and their communities are being torn apart by mass immigration and its destructive effects. In the old days a lot of working men aspired towards higher culture, even going so far as to attend evening lectures on elevated topics

I guess "white culture" sorta exists ... but it blurs together with other cultures in some places.

Hmmm let's see. Their crime rates are higher, their IQ is lower, they often hate this country and wish to destroy it, they don't produce white children for upper class whites to potentially breed with, and their neighbourhoods look even worse. Shall I go on?

>I don't see race and nation as a big deal.

Too bad for you that the rest of the world, i.e. apart from hedonistic and rootless middle-class white people, feels differently and hates your fucking guts

Actually cultural degredation can be seen in the decline of lasting marriages, for example.

Yeah like Russia or Latin America

Why are soap series and gossip magazines about rich and famous people? Jezus how retarded are you. People like to gossip about the haves, it makes them relatable. And that it's possible to rise to the same Heights too.

There are tens of millions of idiotic white people. Only jews care about their culture and promote it.

Different values different food different personalities different language.

Different everything. I know it's hard for a leaf to understand, your culture has been stripped from you. But confederate state white Americans that aren't stripped of their soul by the left have a strong and thriving culture.

>forgetting about European folk music
>has never seen an average church in a village of 2000 people in Italy
> has never been to a high mass
>has never read Dostoyevsky
Ok, faggot

>Why are soap series and gossip magazines about rich and famous people?
Because they are aimed at women and women are dumber than dogs.

>Also, medieval aristocrats did basically no actual work because they had servants.
Not really. They were mostly farm managers and soldiers, they actually had very active lives. The only difference is that they could check out if they wanted and still not starve. Problem is, if they did that for too long, they would lose the estate and become peasants themselves

Race is a not a big thing but seks is... How stupid are you, I bet you're an incel since the connection between sex and race hasn't come up in your head.

Why no specifically
North American examples?

>... which was common for all people at the time.
Still doesn’t change the fact that the dude was middle class

Bluegrass is unironically awesome

Causasians range from Somalis to Norwegians. It's like saying there is a "homo sapiens culture"
The only places where there can be some semblance of a white culture are ex european colonies, but even Canada largely disproves that, since you have two very distinct cultural groups. Even in the US is the same, just with more European ethnic groups tossed into the mix

Society is always driven top down, by elites. The issue is which elites have influence, and therefore how society is. In America, during the 19th century, it had almost 100% literacy rates, and Bong elites traveled to America and were amazed that their blue collar carriage drivers were as knowledgeable as they were about things like Shakespeare and classical arts.
Most of history, most people, including elites, have been trash. Actual classical culture is like a blip in time, where the barbaric elites lose influence, before regaining it.
Btw classical music isn't that expensive. This is the best pianist in the world, Andras Schiff (best as in most accurate, not popular), and his tickets can be bought for under $40CAD. av.osm.ca/Online/mapSelect.asp?BOset::WSmap::seatmap::performance_ids=2F19D201-2BEC-4CB2-8DCA-305B709F5A36&sessionlanguage=EN

golden age: high and low brows cooperate, benevolent aristocrats scout talented kids and help orphans with conservatories and sponsoring.

decline: conservatories turn into boarding school for trust fund kids. bourgeoise composers unironically believe in genius cult and absolute music independent of folk tunes and children songs.

dark age: academic labor division meme gives middlebrows a voice to spread aesthetic confusion and obfuscate true origins of the golden age.

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this is another example of 'reformed' thinking. The reformation was a revolution of rich against poor- and spawned this sort of thinking. It still plays merry hell with half the people on /pol. it just destroyed unity in so many ways.

Sure, but upper-class whites wouldn't exist without middle/low class whites.

Correction for you. Canada has no culture other than being a vassal of the United States.

>I know it's hard for a leaf to understand, your culture has been stripped from you.
I am a man. That's my culture. Male culture. Male culture is better than the culture of any country or race.

>But confederate state white Americans that aren't stripped of their soul by the left have a strong and thriving culture.
The confederates were effeminate cunts who forced black men to do all the actual work for them and then got owned by the north. That's why the first ever neo-Confederate organization was started by women.

Also, the blood on the "Bloodstained Banner" was the period blood of Jefferson Davis.

Another Fun Fact: The original Confederate Flag was white to symbolize the "gory of the white race" by it was mistaken for a surrender flag. LOL

White history*

They're about rich and famous people because people like to think they're better or equal to rich people. Woman just like that shit way more because they value socializing more, thus gossip gives them something to talk about, since most women have no real interests they use drama of their beters. That's why woman are sheep they follow current culture. Men form culture, many fail but the ones that succeed revolutonize the way we look. The reason for them doing this, to get in womans pants.

European culture, by being broadly catholic, tends to be on a higher level than Calvinist culture. If you go to some places in the US, you will find awesome churches in the middle of nowhere. Pic related is a German church in a town of 50 people in western kansas

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>For example
Anecdotal evidence. Argument dismissed

>I am a man. That's my culture. Male culture. Male culture is better than the culture of any country or race.
>caring this much about sex.
Kys, degenerate

Moreover classes don't exist.