I probably know the answer, but is short term Quebec Separatism realistic? I hears that shitskin immigrants are against it and since they're breeding like rabbits the demographics don't look good.
Don't get me wrong, I hate Frenchies and my people also have to deal with them. But if feel like Quebec is the only place in Canada that isn't basically giving up its identity for multicultural retardation and liberalism.
It will never happen. The Bloc Q is basically in tatters and has been for a decade.
Why isn't there a new single issue party like UKIP which could unify the separatists? Wouldn't it be much better to just concentrate on the common goal before sperging out on irrelevant details?
>a federal party with the word QUEBEC in its name will never win
you don't say
the mere mention of quebec makes most anglos seethe
Nope, but Alberta might be possible if junior potato gets re-elected. Then QC will go by default
Reminder that Flanders are our clay.
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I always hear about Alberta possibly doing its own thing, but how realistic is this?
Yes we say "Les Flandres" (plural)
They seem to be trying to shift Quebecois identity towards just being francophone, to include the Haitians and french speaking anglos.
It really depends on the historical and social context honestly, with "la Flandre" and "les Flandres" being used interchangeably most of the time. Some retards just use Flandres more often nowadays to differentiate it from the modern Flemish region encompassing much more than historical Flanders.
>to include the Haitians
might as well include Algerians while we're at it
We don't, bozo.
'the flanders are' is better than just 'flanders are' with english
I live in Quebec and most people don't want to separate. It's mostly people who live in the far from the city, older, or uneducated people who want to separate. Honestly if there was a vote today it wouldn't be anywhere over 20%.
That last provincial party who was only entertaining the idea a bit got voted out right away exactly because people thought they were trying to push a referendum.
How did it shift that much in under 25 years? We get a lot of Quebec students around here and they take it very seriously not getting called "Canadian" and spend their day talking about their Quebecness.
Many algerians in Quebec?
That's cause they're faggots who think they're special.
I think it's just started to look unrealistic and a waste of time and money to keep losing referendums. The Quebecois though don't like Canada at all and call Quebec their nation. I live in Montreal which is the most English city in Quebec and it would be controversial if I hang a Canadian flag on my balcony. I know a guy that got his window smashed in because of it. Most Quebecois still have a dislike towards Anglos and the rest of Canada and Quebecois culture is highly romanticized. The French history classes are also pretty propagandistic.
They also claim to be victims of everything, honestly they're always blaming someone else for their problems. Come to think of it a lot of Quebecois think of Quebec as a nation the same way a Trans woman would think of themselves as a woman.
t. waste-island
and then a few posts later he reveals he's from MTL. can't make this shit up, folks.
Its entirely possible, its just that the subject has been abused like a crack whore going cold turkey by countless politicians over the years, soulless cunt who just claimed to be for it to gain votes. Hell would you believe the liberals themselves were pro-separatist once?
All we need is to organize and keep the federal provocateur and instrigator at bay, because they will assuredly try to twist the movement into a terrorist group, like they did with the FLQ in the '70.
>The French history classes are also pretty propagandistic.
Lmao we hear about injuns for over a fucking decade, a few tid bits about Quebec (more often than not less than a fucking page per events and they pass over them rapidly, god forbid the average quebeker realize how much bullshit the 2 revolutions were (only asked for better rights, got treated like literal traitor by British crown with death sentence for everyone involved, 2nd was a mr big operation to capture the ones that had escaped to the usa)), then MULTICULTI GREATNESS YOOHOO.
It say a fucking lot when I had to learn of the october crisis and the ''Scandal des commandites'' by my own outside of class, history classes in Canada is pro-federal propaganda, it suck balls.
>I think it's just started to look unrealistic and a waste of time and money to keep losing referendums
How? Separatists lost by half a percent back in 1995.
I lived all over Quebec. Was born in Quebec city and lived a bit in Rimouski and Gaspé.
Is there any hope of a, say, UKIP like, single-issue party popping up and getting shit together for the movement?
I guess it demoralized them. I was only 5 in 1995 and didn't know what the fuck was going on but now people on a whole don't want to separate.
>Come to think of it a lot of Quebecois think of Quebec as a nation the same way a Trans woman would think of themselves as a woman.
Fuck off back to Ontario, you nigger.
There has been the Parti Quebecois and the Bloc Quebecois but no one cares about separation anymore so now they are incredibly week parties. And to gain popularity they say "We aren't thinking of separation at the moment maybe in the future if we think it's feasible."
>defends transmountain pipeline at every turn despite provincial disputes
>somehow they'll separate if he's reelected
Fuck you have to be deluded to think Quebec is a nation. Just because the PM calls it one not to hurt your fee-fees and to get Quebec votes doesn't make it a nation.
>Come to think of it a lot of Quebecois think of Quebec as a nation the same way a Trans woman would think of themselves as a woman.
This is such a fucking retarded analogy that has absolutely no purpose but to make Quebekers look bad to Jow Forums. We're literally the descendent of the colonizer of nouvelle-france centuries ago, and you pretend for a moment that it is the same as drugged up crazies that unironically believes they should have a pussy instead of a dick, going as far as to chop it off.
Being called Canadian as a Quebeker is very insulting, because it was actually a name reserved for us as a second-class of citizen (while the Anglo proudly identified themselves as British), since it comes from the time where Canada was separated in two section: Higher Canada which held the English elites, land owners and factories owners, and Lower Canada which held the French who were doomed to labor because any and every influent job required to swear an oath to the queen in english, which unilingual french couldn't do since we weren't teached how to read and speak english properly.
The anglos calling themselves canadian is something relatively recent, mostly started after the quiet revolution when Quebec got unto the world scene and the anglos were jealous we were the one being talked of.
Pic related, now you'll understand why Quebec will never be a part of Canada proper.
Yeah, but it would be torpedo by the MSM and other parties instantly for threatening the current status quo.
Cope harder
my wife is from BC. in 2000 when i asked her about Quebec seceding she said that they shouldn't be allowed to secede; they should be kicked out
At least I have a culture and a people I can identify with no matter what, like brothers and sisters of a great family, while you're doomed to disappear because your elites will throw you into the ditch and light it up with fuel just to make themselves look better to the hordes of third worlder they're inviting to replace you.
Man I'm Quebecois just like you. I just disagree that Quebec is a nation in any tangible way.
The borough where I live is filled with Algerians and other Nafris
Care to give me your reasoning for such an opinion? In what way Quebec isn't a nation?
If Trudeau wins again Trump should absolutely support Quebec. If Canada's going to sell out to the Chinese, dismember their country and deny them territory.
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french bad, english good
It's not sovereign in any way. Like it or not it's part of Canada. Sure we have a different culture and different values but so does Newfoundland and we're no more of a nation than they are and they've only joined Canada in 1949.
>A large body of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory.
Are you joking? Are you honestly telling me your reasoning on Quebec not being a nation base itself on legal technicalities?
The Bloc Q has some potential in next election since people are tired of Trudeau, see Scheer as Trudeau-lite and NDP have a fucking Sikh as leader (he will get 0 seat in Qc).
I think it is more like 35-40% for separation. I saw some polls shared by Bock-Côté in one of his article and like he said with a good campaign we could get back to 50/50.
Way too many
T'es un esti de moron, tes posts transpirent l'ignorance.
Do you consider Newfoundland a nation?
>that bit about 101 in the picture
Fail to mention that the unilingual are far more on the side of the English than it is of the Quebekers, because english classes are one of the classes we're in the obligation to pass in school, both elementary and secondary.
Yes, they are. They have their own history, and are their own people. To claim they are not a nation would be to steal from them legitimacy. I mean literally the last genuine holding of France in North America is there, that by itself is pretty unique (st-pierre-et-miquelon) and point to their distinct history from us on the mainland. Also do understand that it is entirely possible to be a nation whitout having the mean to be sovereign, as in a subjugated nation, which by definition all descendant of french colonist in Canada are.
Imagine being this retarded....
The quebecois screams out in pain as he strikes you
There are tons of places that are unique in North America like this. We are the only one's that want to call our land a nation and in this sense the way we use nation is meaningless. This is why I said it's like a trans woman calling themselves a woman. In both cases they only fit into their category by bending the meaning and they get mad at anyone who doesn't agree with them.
Lmao you couldn't be more in the wrong, please travel outside of Quebec and stop drinking the MSM kool-aid, you'll soon realize that Quebec is a nation unlike any others in the world, maybe not in its entirety but unique nonetheless. I recommended Corsica, they're a very proud peoples who have lived on the island for thousand of years and are now seen as part of France, but never they will be part of the french nation as is. Also the island is beautiful and affordable, last I've heard, especially for the Mediterranean.
The truth is the french quebecers have all the power in canada they are exactlly like (((them))) they constantly scream oppresion and talk about things that "happened" 100 years ago all while practicing nepotism and being extremely over represnted in every single aspect of canandian society and they're hardcore leftist to boot....
Every political party in Quebec that is not the Liberals is a separatist party. They literally are like all those warring factions in the Life of Brian. "We are fighting together!"
I've been to a lot of places actually. Have you've been to Louisiana? Especially New Orleans they have a super distinct culture and they love being a part of the USA at the same time. I spent some time in French New Brunswick and most of those people like Canada as much as the typical Canadian.
Iv'e been to Ireland and we still hate the English more than they do some of them want to be part of the UK.
I've been to Singapore and a lot of people feel unhappy that they've separated from Malaysia even though their culture is very different.
The only other place I've been to that compares to Quebec is Barcelona. Where they are super serious about leaving Spain but after vising Madrid, Ibiza, Seville and Valencia it's just made me think of them as angry socialists.
Btw every single french pepper claims to have native blood in their families because they want to attach themselves with people who were and still are actually oppressed, mean while they're the ones who keep stealing native land in order to "help the economy" and "create jobs" and the only ones who benefit are the elite french quebecers.
Living in Quebec I would say hardly anyone does this. Where are you getting this from? Maybe its the Métis from Alberta.
You're lying they all claim to have a native ancestors.
Don't give him (you)'s, all his posts are sub-par shitpost, you will not get a proper discussion out of him.
As a matter of fact i know many who are exempt from taxation because of these claims to be "partly native"
>be Trudeau
>ban tankers in BC
>make the process of building a pipeline basically impossible
>kill every other pipeline that comes up during your term
>horribly overpay for trans mountain pipeline and leave it in limbo forever
>some retard on Jow Forums actually thinks I'm pro-pipeline
Just how many of (((them))) claim to be holocaust victims in order to get reparations from germany
Oh no, please don’t take our Muslims, Sikhs and jews!!!
>But if feel like Quebec is the only place in Canada that isn't basically giving up its identity for multicultural retardation and liberalism.
I've been traveling to Quebec 6-7 times a year for the past three years and I've been all over the province. I know I'm just a burger, but I've experienced a lot of Quebecer culture. I've gone to a cabane à sucre, gone to the countryside several times, visited Quebec City and spent a lot of time in Montreal. I've gotten to meet and make friends with a lot of Quebecers.
I've also been to Alberta, Ontario and Ottawa. Quebec isn't really like any of those places, culturally. Of all the provinces, I like Quebec the most. The people are generally really pleasant and most of the people you meet in the country are just good, salt of the earth type people that you would want to sit down and have a beer with. The food is amazing and especially Montreal isn't shitted up with horrible chain restaurants.
But, I don't really agree with you that it isn't giving up its culture for multiculturalism and liberalism. From what I've seen, anyone that speaks French, be it a shitskin from Morocco, Algeria, Haiti or elsewhere is given priority simply because they are Francophone. So, it seems to me that they are sort of cutting off their nose to spite their face. On one hand I guess it's a "fuck you" to Anglophones by fortifying the dominance of the language in the province, but on the other hand, every time I go to Montreal I notice more and more shitskins and refugees driving Ubers with third world attitudes about women and life in general. I had a Moroccan Uber driver go on a rant for 20 minutes about how he doesn't like that women are so "outspoken" and that in his country they would (he made a slapping gesture with his hand) if a woman tried to tell a man what to do. If that's what you're bringing into your province, on a daily basis, what do you think will eventually happen?
based burger
Concerning the influx of migrants you are right, there's a ton of francophone shitskins but we are being flooded by the federal government and basically we have two choices: english speaking chinks & pajeets or french speaking nogs & arabs.
Nig immigrant is mostly the result of federal immigration and affirmative action, ain't for no reason they keep to montreal. Also there is a fuckload of muzzies due to the algerian civil war ages ago, god they're the fucking worst, no joke at one place I worked there was one of these slimy cunt and he was such a passive-aggresive little shit that was outright disrespectful for absolutely no fucking reason toward me, up until the point I blew a fuse at him for calling a retard for not doing what he asked me to do, when he was literally trying to fool me into doing it the wrong way so i'd look like a fucking idiot at the boss afterward. Another time I heard him talk about Gadhaffi and how his empalement was justified, they're literally animals invited by the federal, we never wanted them around.
Luckily they all stay in Montreal, god I hope we could just blow the bridges up and make it a no-man-land, Quebec as a whole would improve instantly. So much shit seep out of that cities, it isn't even funny.
>english speaking chinks & pajeets or french speaking nogs & arabs.
What awful choices, I'm so sorry :(
Textbook ignorant anglo. Ten bucks you didn't ask why, like she would know anyway...
He is quoting his wife comment from 19 years ago, I don't think he realized how stupid that sound.
Fucking dumbass Anglo oppressors, am I right, Quebec Frens?
I'm an Albertan, and I normally hate you guys, but fuckin right Quebecois. Fuck this BS fake-ass country.
>But if feel like Quebec is the only place in Canada that isn't basically giving up its identity for multicultural retardation and liberalism.
you can't even imagine how much you're wrong
took me a while to understand this, but keeping our province french, meant keeping it white. too late now.