This thread is for the discussion of laying the foundation for how National Socialism can be formed to identity and ideals of the American. Not endlessly LARPing as a long passed foreign nation of an era that is no longer relevant in this day and age save as a lesson for us to learn from.
>If you're not flying the Swastika you're a fucking optics cuck! We can only bring National Socialism by imitating and emulating the NSDAP of 1930s Germany. No TRUE! National Socialist would ever- The NSDAP is dead, and we arent Germans. We are Americans. We have our own history, we have our own culture, and heroes, and legends. We are a different nation, a different folk, and for National Socialism to ever take root in this country we must take the lessons we learned(for those of you that have actually read Mein Kampf) and properly apply them by molding National Socialism to the needs and culture of our own nation.
Today we're going to discuss: A.) How National Socialism can be reformed and applied to be relevant to Americans and our unique culture. B.) How we can create a presence in America as the Nationalist American Party. C.) How we can organize amongst ourselves to better accomplish A. and B.
Uniform and Outreach >Long sleeve work short. Navy blue. >Well fitted, work slacks. Black >Work boots, and belt. Black >Cap. Black. >Well groomed, clean. >Betsy Ross American flag patch. Right sleeve. After we start recognizing one another, are organizing into chapters and are recruiting more members we can discuss a second patch under your flag patch naming your local chapter. Now I know you're thinking. Parades, and protests, right? Fucking no. Hard work, volunteering, building a presence and a bringing your communities together. We arent trying to rub palms with celebrities or the talking heads on television. We are by large mostly working class Americans, and we are reaching out to folks like ourselves. They are your neighbors, the clerks at your grocery stores, your coworkers.
>Cont'd Hard work wont kill you, and it will do a world of good more for you, and fore the cause than praying on a Bengali hiking forum for The Big Happening to absolve you of worldly responsibility. We do this by: >Public barbecues, and cookouts on national, and local patriotic holidays. >Volunteering to help clean up litter in your communities, or helping the elderly tend to homes they no longer can. >Public events, such as: Charity marathons, Bike races, and Neighborhood movie nights where we show them redpilled, and nationalist movies. >Hiding our power levels. Redpilling must be done one-on-one, face to face, and offline. By doing these things, we not only strengthen our communities, and build networks among ourselves, we also plant the seeds that grow into recruitment, and inevitably a movement. >wtf? how are you going to build America with fucking barbecues? Slowly, you fuckstick. We build a presence in our community. A warm, friendly, trusting face that people get excited to hear is throwing an event, and people know on a first name basis. Then by merit and intelligence we groom members within our chapters to run for local public office. Suddenly were dug-in into towns, and communities, and we can established contact with our other chapters across the country.
You're heart is true OP, but you're in the wrong place. Jow Forums just wants to shitpost and fling shit. Everything you posted is exactly what the right needs to do if they want to start a real nationalist movement and actually influence government, but it's not what they want to do. Either they just want to post dank maymays or they want someone to come along and do it for them. I wish you the best of luck, and pray for your success, but it won't happen here. They call Jow Forums a containment board for a reason
Cameron Jackson
That's the beauty of it. Grassroots potential. Any old asshole who wants to get up and help can buy everything I listed at a Walmart and start helping his community out. I already volunteer, and help the elderly around my neighborhood. Now I'm just going to wear something nice while I do it. Who knows? maybe someone's grandson will ask me how they can get in on what I do.
We're Americans. The world has known us for two centuries for being proud, patriotic, and unshakably stubborn. If this never takes off, at least I'll spend the rest of my life living out that standard we set, and trying to help my community.
Thomas Edwards
No way that uniform will fly in the hot sun. Better off with cargo shorts and white shirt.
Kevin Lewis
You'd be surprised. I'm a tradesman and wear similar clothing. The benefit of clothes designed for work is that they keep you cool in the heat, and with a jacket and gloves will keep you warm in the winter.
Grayson Lopez
I think it should go without saying that public events and volunteering are a great way to meet single, community minded white women
so the new american nazi uniform is ben shapiro with bling on?
Aiden Richardson
I dont watch or listen to Ben Shapiro, he strikes me as a shrill neocon Jew. The idea is to utilize the utilitarian professionalism of American working class, with some additions to solidify us as a functioning group. Military-lite, but light on LARP.
Ethan Russell
nah nah i like it, but i'd recomend you try a more militarized shirt for example, one with the 4 pattern pockets rather then the blue collar man's 2 pockets.
Also having met ben, eh he'd be on board half way until you got ethnic with him. He is american first, but a bit soft imo
and just saying i like the pin and the patch idea. Subtle, addable to other outfits, easy motief that's hard to attack (The flag, the eagle). Maybe the eagle carrying 13 arrows in a fascia and an olive branch.
Oliver Clark
you're not white, nobody cares what you think
Jose Morgan
interesting idea, I like the uniform colors, nice and bold, betsy ross flag is hilarious addition as its hard to attack, its only negative press lately is the nike thing. American flag isn't iconic enough to stand apart.
I dont know how available the more militarized version is. The work shirts you can buy on Amazon for fairly cheap, plus military isnt the image were trying to present, a group of united working class is. It just happens to be "vaguely militaristic" which is good for the pride of the men wearing them. As for the Shapiro stuff he'd be on board for a good while then since hiding our power levels is important. Media and folks who trawl this place for dirt can scream and kvetch as they please, but people arent going to be checking Jow Forums. They're going to be looking at the nice young men that helped mend their fence, and fed homeless veterans. Another great benefit. As it grows it can evolve. We may adopt khaki and navy during the summer months, and black and navy during the winter, but folks will see Black and Blue and think "Those good ole' National boys". I like the idea of the pin, but it would be hard to work 13 arrows on something so small without having to pay for custom work. The standard ones are available easily online, and still incorporate the clutched arrows and olive branch.
You see me advocating violence anywhere, (((bud)))? Any violent government removal? Annexation of any chunk of America for an Ethnostate? This is all just good nationalistic political policy conducted by being a good samaritan, and a good patriot. :^)
Elijah Clark
What's your racial angle? Say the organizing takes off, and blacks, latinos, asians, or even jews show interest. Are they welcome?
Cameron Foster
If you're going to be so overt about things, why not simply have lapels crossing out the subversive, anti-scoial and (((Luciferian))) iconography of those responsible for our 'down home' decline?
that's a good point! got any ideas? why ruin a good thing by acknowledging them right out the gate. Slow and steady wins the race.
Carter Jones
At least your targeting the right demographics - working class summerfags, lol. Good luck with your little operation, glownigger Moshe. I'm sure (((you))) and your 'working class' boobs will be a real asset to the down home community of American. Yeehaw!
Well I was considering ineffectually posting on a Sri Lanka gay dating forum about how much I wish things would change, or let someone in the FBI try to convince me to shoot up a Del Taco, but this seemed more productive. I think folks would get the idea in a nice digestible package when someone inevitably asks what your stance on Israel is, and you reply with >They arent Americans. Fuck them and the dual citizen politicians they have all over our Government
Project more, Chaim. The factual narratives are perfectly clear here. Read a book, watch a documentary and your free to discuss. There's no need to go outside and legitimize propaganda institutions. There's no need to behave like the (((masons))) and utilize altruism and charity with ulterior motives geared toward subversion and infiltration. Go back to your slimy, clandestine slime in the shadows, glownigger. Jow Forums is a board of peace.
So what you're saying is: >Hide in the shadows >Dont build your communities >Stay away from one another >Die quietly No. The fact that you have to shill this hard tells. I think I'll keep making these threads. I think I'll get all dressed up in my snappy uniform and go help out around my neighborhood. Disregard cowards.
>Jow Forums is dead >Jow Forums is dying >Jow Forums needs to be overt >Jow Forums needs to subject itself to the (((just))) institutions that will surely be receptive tocritiquing the holocaust, Israel and ol' timey America. >b-but we're wearing crisp blue shirts and painting a fence!
Well, you hit a crossroads there. Civnat or Ethnat. Civnat makes you more resistant to criticism, but opens you up to corruption and decay. Ethnat would be very hard to get off the ground. The solution - which is not ideal, but has worked in this country for a long, long time - is segregated Civnat.
Josiah Watson
Good luck leading your glownigger operation, Chaim. Considering how good of a job you've done sustaining your narrative and goals here, I'm sure it'll serve as a ringing endorsement for your more overt endevors.
I'll let you keep posting your oil paintings and riling up the boomers. Do us a charity and keep all the Qtards, boomers and stormfags. This shit should also be banned for being fucking /fa/. Fuck jannies irl. youtube.com/watch?v=iqG81KrROis
>A.) How National Socialism can be reformed and applied to be relevant to Americans and our unique culture. >america >culture
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA my fucking side
just put a giant hamburger or a star of david inside of the reich kriegflahre, change the movement from being some deep paradigm shift about the conception of man and state to forcing everyone to worship your kike on a stick, and also mix it with a fat acceptance movement
I'd think run a slow burn. Frog in a boiling pot of water tactic. We can openly support fierce border lockdown openly, so it's not a hard stretch for tighter immigration, severance of dreamers and anchor babies. Make America a fruitless wasteland for the migrant hordes, and a bountiful harvest for it's citizens. >Why should these people who break our laws receive special preferential treatment when American veterans live on the streets. >San Francisco is a tent city of broken Americans. I think we owe it to our own people before we even consider worrying about Muslims. They have elsewhere to go. Welfare reforms, and severance of gibs will curb the shitskins hard, even the ones that are already citizens here. However benefits and incentives for producing families will boom the majority population(whites) Something else further down that'll deal with the shitskins already here: we just stop hiding their crimes, or their behavior, put it out for the world to see as uncensored journalism and with subtle language turn the heat in the country up until removal is demanded.
Wyatt Cook
america is unironically just fat retards worshipping jews, and have arguments inbetween the fat retards on what made up jew policy they like more, after getting paid a salary by the jew corp or recieving a check from the jew government, then using it to watch to jew movies, go to a church to be taught to worship jews, or simply sit on your couch watching the electric jew
It's amazing how many hundreds of thousands of good honest French people died during the revolution and both world wars yet your ancestors miraculously survived so that one day you could shitpost on Jow Forums while your country gets overrun with Africans. Lucky you.
Cameron Bennett
It's ok frog user. We do not forget Lafayette.
Hunter Morris
Lol @ you cucks taking OP's retarded ideas seriously. Navy blue button-down shirts? This isn't how you build up a sense of national vigor, this is how you make the Nation look like a bunch of weak pussies (pic related). "Blending in" with normies (i.e. being cucked into submission by civility and politeness) is exactly what the Jews want: a white race that's too afraid of them to openly declare a national and ethnic identity for itself. The ONLY way you bring meaningful change is by making white nationalist ideas more visible; this means the Swastika (which is a symbol of White identity, not German identity) and a military appearance.
You might hate me Jean-Pierre, but in my veins runs French blood and a love of French people and culture. One day maybe, we can find our lost love between France and America again. I will remain hopeful.
Jacob Jackson
>It's amazing how many hundreds of thousands of good honest French people died during the revolution and both world wars yet your ancestors miraculously survived so that one day you could shitpost on Jow Forums while your country gets overrun with Africans. meh, like 5% of the pop, sometimes 10, every euro has been through rougher times
the plagues killed over 60 percent of the population, the romans killed a third
>but in my veins runs French blood and a love of French people and culture. of course, everyone loves the french culture, you know why? because we HAVE ONE
find anyone in the world who thinks america ha sa culture and likes it that isnt some urbanite dumb teen slut
you have 0 social cohesion, you have the worst value system anyone has ever seen, you re a bunch of ccoward conseumerist materialist, you are world renowned for how ignorant you are, south asiatic shitholes with no education produce people more wise and more knowledgebable aboput the world than you, and on top of that you re completely controlled by the jews, your entire economy, every aspect of your life
you have no values and dont even know where to start to fix yourselves
lets look at american demographics
retarded rotting brained white christian boomers far left university scum half your population are brown migrants who hate whites and you got 15% niggers who also hate whites
Trump's biggest mistake was not pulling out of NATO
Cooper Bell
Based
Our culture sucks, a totalitarian version of it would be horrible.
Joshua Turner
>tfw left wing people will call this Nazism and facist/racist when it's literally calling on people to be better and to contribute to their communities and society at large
Grayson Williams
Bumping for interest. I already wear those colors to work albeit usually navy trousers and a black shirt.
Logan Johnson
>You sound gay and Jow Forums already had countless discussions about uniforms for the US. you re literally at the same level of larp as the antifa commies
>what do you think your job is gonna be after the gommunist rebolution >I will design uniforms! >I will lead the armies of glorious revolution
>Trump's biggest mistake was not pulling out of NATO trump made no mistake he s a complete traitor to america and a professional con artist you guys are just so retarded that only 5% of you see through it
>Our culture sucks, a totalitarian version of it would be horrible. see you dont know shit, no amerimutt does
since when have any fascist or natsoc movement been totalitarian? never they re authoritarian movement, but all you know is your omnipresent kike propaganda, american "popular culture" was literally crafter in board rooms
I mean dont you have the internet how is your access to information so low nazi germany was crazy liberal when you consider the propaganda version, they had lower taxes than us today, and they had to bargain with the private actors all the way through, they werent totalitarians what so ever, they never even nationalized the banks
Oh yeah, and don't forget to garden, compost, and create suitable environments for bees and other pollinators.
Justin Hughes
well considering we conquered an entire continent with cowboys, mountain men, missionaries. Wrote stories about it, developed our own accents, foods, music, traditions, then yeah I'd say we did pretty good at developing a culture. I understand your frustration though. Everywhere you go you get to enjoy American this and American that. It's so standard in your day to day life it seems to you that we have no culture at all. Meanwhile you live it.
haha, right? strengthen White fellowship, watch the left and the glowniggers chew through shit trying to smear it.
Jeremiah Martinez
Would you would you ever be opposed to a smaller militaristic branch of the movement? I understand that the movement needs to be portrayed as nonviolent, but I wouldn’t put it past he feds to plant people into into an organization to subvert it , as well as our people needing security. A free corps if you will, used only in defense and rarely in offense. It could be made up of volunteers and trained by vets, with higher ranking NCO’s being made up of those with more military experience, while the leadership could be made up of old military career officers/4 year lieutenants. We’d keep it under 5% of people in the movement, so if 100 people were supporters, 5 would be in the free corps. They’d have different outfits so people could distinguish them from the rest of the crowd, and they would grow as the movement grew.
Levi Richardson
I don't disagree with much of what you have said, and I realize your anger. It must be infuriating seeing your homeland and nation being washed away by nigger and muslim hordes. I hope you make it out, in the 10 or so years it will take to crumble France to tiny 3rd World shards. Good luck, Jean-Pierre, good luck.
Jacob Harris
>well considering we conquered an entire continent with cowboys, mountain men, missionaries. not much of a conquest, just untamed land, dont try to act like 20k indians with bows represent a threat
>Wrote stories about it, developed our own accents, foods, music, traditions, then yeah I'd say we did pretty good at developing a culture. alright, then focus on that, focus on the people who went through the hardships, focus on the people whos descendants represent white america, drop the americana and all modern bullshit, find aesthetics again, find a modern lifestyle, recreate communities
>It's so standard in your day to day life it seems to you that we have no culture at all. Meanwhile you live it. american influence is nothing more than degenerate jewish conseumrism
>and I realize your anger. I am not angry I just like insulting everyone online, especially when its backed up by undeniable fact
>It must be infuriating seeing your homeland and nation being washed away by nigger and muslim hordes. btw you did that, I am not sure many amerimutts can put normandy on a map but its in france, we were doing fine until you invaded us, killed our government and replaced them with american/jewish puppets who slowly started changing our laws to take our freedom away and prepare for mass migration
A possibility. Also possible to make allies of other identarian movements, and militarist nationalist movements, invite them to everything, and let them keep our backs. But plainclothes defenders in-house isnt a bad idea, and probably at the end of the day necessary to prevent some glownigger from giving a kid a gun and telling him: >you know what you really help us out? if someone shot up that Krisp-e Kremes.
Landon Ortiz
>>I will design uniforms! >>I will lead the armies of glorious revolution >This is bad >Don't do anything Typical fr*nch cuck.
Elijah Butler
>I am not angry I just like insulting everyone online, especially when its backed up by undeniable fact If you say so, sound quite angry to me, helpless anger. >btw you did that I did no such thing. My family wasn't in the US when that happened, my family was in France and Germany, and didn't arrive til after the war.
Well thank you for your critique. Pioneers and frontiersmen were an important part of our heritage, and not one to dismiss. However modern aesthetics cant be dropped. We live in a modern era. Would you take seriously the man arguing for a Nationalistic France that provides social systems and help for it's citizens when he's dressed like a French Revolutionary? Times have changed, and Americana here at least is the celebration of all aspects of American culture start to present. What jews have tainted can be cleaned, it would be a pity to let them have pride in ruining the dream.
Connor Wood
Yeah. When they’re not pulling security or making sure some glow in the dark is trying to ruin it, they could be used to teach basic gun safety and maintenance, offer other firearms and marksmanship classes, and generally reconnect America to a broken and decaying gun culture. Another thing they could do is sort of like a National Guard support role during disasters, offering volunteer, shelter, and maybe even evacuation for those who would need it.
Josiah Murphy
This is a great idea. I work in Emergency Management. A group with a pure purpose in helping in disasters would do wonders for a movement.
Dylan James
weell culturally speaking, if you want something natsoc in amerimutt lanbd, you need to completely break away from modern america, basically anything the us has represented or stood for in the last 100 years its a necessity because those are the cultural foundations of your movement the noble and tough spirit of the white europeans who first tamed the land, their hard work which turned savage nature into a global superpower you need to clearly reject anything modern america incarnates, and find extraordinary leaders who have not been perverte by the modern world, and are competent enough to build something new in its place, which is almost impossible to find in america
>and not one to dismiss. see this post
what I mean by modern america is all the disgusting plastic shit, all the confeti, all the conseumerist trash t shirts, americana, southern battleflag, I mean just look at the maga hats how fucking trashy, literal nigger cap you pay for have some standards if you want to look modern look new, dont try to look like either the modern american army, the republican or democrat rallies, or the average american working man
I created a possible flag for the new American NatSoc movement. We must not use any German NatSoc symbolism, as it will scare away the normies, and yes I know fuck the normies, but we will need them in order to win. Also, in true National Socialism each nation/people must create their own symbolism from their own unique culture.
>Uniform Dark blue dress shirt Red tie tucked in to shirt Black dress pants tapered at ankle Black belt Blue suede or black leather shoes
Fantastic suggestions, but any security team doing disaster relief or volunteering should involve the whole group, or come as standard members of the group. It's important for any security force to never stand apart from the whole. More difficult to isolate.
Jason Stewart
I absolutely agree.
Nolan Williams
>We must not use any German NatSoc symbolism But it looks so good...
this is already a tiny bit better but still is too close to last century basic bitch fascist movements, also mind that most americans are morbidely obese and that your uniforms should also look at least descent on people who arent fit
a fat fuck has no place in a natsoc movement, this denotes a complete lack of will and a degenerence of the body, sign of a unhealthy lifestyle he allowed, they get fixed (and we can help) or they get out
That would be hard at first, you would need one group doing humanitarian/disaster relief, then slow integration of security. Otherwise, it will be easy for the whole group to be labeled and shunned. It has to be a pure ambitious movement to give support in the beginning. Otherwise it will be extremely hard even at the local level with the amounts of leftist indoctrination in local governments...
But, if done in small communities, growing upwards, it could be done together.
Connor Edwards
If we could get painters, artists, musicians, and sculptors in on it they’d make folk songs, prices of art, etc that really captured the American spirit. It would give a lot of people reprise from the tumblr (((Art))) and other western degeneracy. Obviously my two cents but it would have to be later down the line.
Evan Davis
Dressing nicely like Spencer did is pointless unless you're going to a conference where it's required. You'll need alternate uniforms for riots, mass demonstrations, and different types of street protests. Rioting dressed like an office clerk or like Ben Shapiro will do nothing.
A) Call it third positionism, make it pan European. B) Corporate and intelligence infiltration over decades. C) You don't talk about organization on places where feds monitor 24/7 lol.
Elijah Price
Spencer is controlled opposition
Jaxon Kelly
Overall concept is good. Uniform could certainly use some work, though. Looks a little too generic in my opinion. We need a Hawaiian shirt/sleazecore division.
He's not, the fact that actual feds like Posobiec and others hate him should be a sign.
Christopher Ramirez
I don't think it has to be done later down the line. It could start now. Especially if it feels organic to normies, something growing naturally and encompassing field to field.
Christian Long
No he’s just a kike
Ian Morales
they look fine to me kike
Mason Taylor
>Implying whites haven't tried through literally every other means available. Retarded meme
Cooper Miller
If you wear a uniform you're fucking retarded. You might as well tattoo a swastika on your forehead. You'll be surrounded by glowniggers in your "uniform" faster than the 4 nigger-tier iq anons who'd openly join you can order them off Amazon.
Blake Howard
That’s probably the hardest part about all of this. I don’t know how you’d tip toe around the national socialist label without muh joos being peddled by both the right and the left. Like you said, it would have to be concentrated effort but it would just be hard to get over the hump of taboo.