Why does UK hate the EU so much?

I'm not a huge EU fan either. Some bureaucrat you never voted for making all the decisions, forced requirements like taking in refugees, and with us (Ireland obviously) they even have a certain amount of control with our budget (because of the IMF loan). All in all I find it very anti democracy.

You're on the wrong board if you want democracy. Try the /lgbt/.

Decades of propaganda by multi millionaires hoping to gain more power and make a tax haven for themselves. Jingoistic nonsense spewed for decades by Little Englanders, playing on evry racist and xenophobic trope, to make the working class fear the other, and want to cut themselves off from power, to allow the rich to gain more power and control

When they say taking back control it is control by the rich, not the people.

>A brit says this
Calm down Muhammed. Not all of us want an IS caliphate.

A) because as a sovereign nation each of the nations of the EU negotiated and agreed to treaty terms, freely.
B) why does the USA without treaties think it has the right to tell every nation on the planet what to do and bomb the hell out of them if they don’t?

The EU was an agreement, not an invasion.

Common sense

An agreement no one voted for you smelly frog.

t. Brit abroad fucking ur bitches

Acceptable way to channel anti-immigrant and anti-liberal hatred.

Fewer bureaucrats work for the EU than for the Irish govt.

Decisions are made by the EU parliament which you voted for. The commission is appointed by your government that you voted for.

This anti democracy trope is crap. I agree the IMF (not an EU body) acted high handed ly in Ireland and Greece and got it wrong - but your elected government agreed with them. ...

agrees to terms of agreement things change agreement wont change hmm

Because they are retards. Their politicians tell them they can save like a 100 billion pounds per year by leaving - which is a lie - and low IQ plebs actually believe them.

It will be great when Ireland leaves the EU because that'll make it harder for globohomo companies like Amazon and Google to use your country to avoid paying taxes here.

Those few "refugees" are nothing compared to the shitskins from your former colonies flooding your country. Have fun with your Pakis.

Lol, Brit retired here and living with French girlfriend myself... lovely woman, not a bitch. Why do you have to be misogynistic?

Anyway, actually yes an agreement that was voted for by all parties, either in public vote directly on the treaty, or through representative democratic votes - parliament the sovereign body of the UK, voted for it.

Just because no one gave you the personal option to veto it does not mean it is undemocratic.

>few "refugees"
Not few, you invited millions of savages into Europe, and we didn't want them coming here. Because our traitorous government brings in pakis is beside the point. We don't want to be in the same car as the suicidal pathological altruistic Germans screaming 'IM NOT A NAZI ANYMORE' while driving off the cliff edge.

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Oh how the tables have turned now reality is upon thee.
Ironic that when Britain leaves with no-deal the Irish will have to pay for the EU border controls!
Better get the balaclavas out paddy

So if the EU joined political and economic union with the US it would be democratic because you got to vote for your local MEP?

I'm glad the thread has established the difference between the EU and Europe.

Go ahead and leave. You had a special snowflake deal all the time, it's about time to renegotiate.

hanz has no army hanz makes money because no army
hanz controlls eu if not directly
hanz wants eu army

> negotiate
Get a load o this germtard

Did Brexit ever end up happening? How affected are small rural towns by "diversity"? My grandfather was from England and I'd like to take my father there some day to visit without having our spirits dashed by rowdy third-worlders.

We're surrounded by safe countries. What would we need an army for?

There are more than 1000 treaties you signed with the EU which now have to be renegotiated, dumbass.

Becoz the EU is focking sheit mate. England is masterrace.

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wait until everybody realizes what a shell game ur economy is and the only way you are managing it is defense spending being non existent eu only provides economic security i guess
>looks at greece
>eu provides a trading union i guess
>cant create trade deals while in eu

>There are more than 1000 treaties you signed with the EU which now have to be renegotiated, dumbass.
I didn't sign them, nor was I consented on them.

So therefore they go on the bonfire.

cant defend members physically cant defend members economically
members are not allowed to trade outside of the union
what is this union again?

The EU is based on consensus and not persuasion. If socialist countries like France, Greece or Italy aren’t convinced lower taxes are good or red tape is bad, then the Anglo still tried to attempt to explain and doesn’t get it that the socialists aren’t rational.

The there is Germany and Anglos hate Germans because of the war. Germans have a lot of influence in the EU and the UK thinks that is unjust because they won the war and Germans lost... in their mind, all decisions in the EU where the UK has an opinion and Germany has a different one should end with Germany always apologizing.

Lastly, the UK hates the EU for the 3.5 million Eastern European immigrants it received which have high employment ratios and contribute to the UK economy. This must end, people from outside of Europe need to get priority access to the UK while Europeans should have to wait until Africans, Indians and Pakistanis are let in.

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Wait until you realize how much your economy depended on being an EU member.

the german hate thing is a meme but we dont want germany to have such a large ammount of power thats true

The EU is letting in millions of non-whites all the time, they can't control the borders and are changing all historic European nation-states forever.

i dont disagree our economy will hurt shortterm but wait and see what happens to eu

We will join Britain. No longer safe from the west

The average population is kinda racist and rich dont wanna stay in the EU anymore .
So the political class aka the rich made them vote and capitalized on that .

If you put to vote to leave EU , most countries will vote , yes .
Because they are nationalists .
They dont care about economics , they dont care about wars , they dont care all about that .
They just wanna be complete independent , with no relations to other countries .
Average pleb is fucking dumb .
They dont understand the EU vision .

They say that EU is undemocratic .
If you say "then lets make it more democratic"
They will say : ""stop taking our indepence away"
You cant win with nationalists .

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The number of non-whites entering Europe is about 60% Britain/France, 20% Germany/Italy and 20% rest (Spain, Belgium, Netherlands, Switzerland, Austria) for the past 20yrs.

Saying “the EU” has to do with British and French ex-colonies in Africa/Asia is a bit retarded.

>eu in financial crisis
>eu extorts greece completly
>uk says can we fix this
>eu says you agreed we voted no
>fuck this shit im out

The EU is a shitty corrupt organization which costs a shitload of money and can't even guard its borders.
What's not to hate?

This.

UK's foreign policy regarding Europe is and always has been for balance.

We have never once tried to control Europe, when we could.

Even during the British empire, we could have steamrolled through the mainland, why didn't we?

Oh yeah, balance. You try to disturb this balance and France sucks up to you because it's a whore country that leeches when it senses power, it has no respect for balance.

But it will learn the hard way or it will be forced to chose a side, the winning side (balance) or the losing side (crushing those that seek to disturb balance).

You need to understand that, I don't think you quite grasp it, this is your third attempt.

Migrant crisis and slavs

The borders are controlled by countries you stupid fucking moron , not from bruxelles .

>They just wanna be complete independent , with no relations to other countries .

BULL FUCKING SHIT

Nobody says that, it's pure EU propaganda.
People want normal trade relations.
You don't need the EU to do international trade, we've done it for thousands of years before the EU existed.

I wouldn't say hate. It's just that its an idea gone bad. Originally a trading block, it's becoming an empire. Having been there and dumped one, for obvious reasons. Why should we wish to do something so foolish again. Empires become unwieldy and governed by ideological idiots who don't know what they are doing. Having lost contact with reality. Democracy cannot work with too many different populations. The EU is unstable, the reasons for its creation gone, it's collapse will be devastating, best to get out now.

Jews

Which clearly doesn't work because 3rd world shitholes like Poortaly are too lazy to stop migrants.

No the EU is letting its own non-whites in as part of the Kalergi plan to irrevocably mongrelise Europe forever.

Itbro, you cant read. or you just dont understand.

EU vows to protect its nations-memberstates. This includes their borders. this means the EU should protect the borders by helping the countries. Which they arent. So why arent you mad at the EU yet. Cazzo

I was just talking about nationalists that wanna tarrif every import .
Nationalists want their own industry , their own cars , their own airplanes .
They want their country to succed and be proud of that .
Little to no imports .

Howcan you protect a border if you have no power over it .

>Eastern European immigrants it received which have high employment ratios and contribute to the UK economy.

They work for 2 months in the West and then go back East to live off Western unemployment handouts for 6 months.
That's how EU welfare law works, and anyone trying to change it is called a Nazi.

The EU has power over the nations. Are you retarded?

>UK's foreign policy regarding Europe is and always has been for balance.

The policy was always “British interests first, nobody else should challenge us”.

>Even during the British empire, we could have steamrolled through the mainland, why didn't we?

There was never a time when you could have occupied a significant part of Europe. Certainly not in the 19th century and even less likely before or after ww1 or ww2.

>Oh yeah, balance. You try to disturb this balance and France sucks up to you because it's a whore country that leeches when it senses power, it has no respect for balance.

The time of European quibbling ended in 1945 and 1991. Since then unification has been the basic premise. You never understood that and never will.

>You need to understand that, I don't think you quite grasp it, this is your third attempt.

As I explained, I think the majority of Brits think the conflict with the EU is about “the war” and “Germany losing in the war”. Which is why you bring up “the third attempt”. You mean this is a light joke, but most Brits actually still feel the EU is some kind of German attempt to control Europe “Hitler style” and thus have a deep dislike of it. That is why “take back control” had such a massive success in British minds, when the same slogan wouldn’t even be understood in Germany, as nobody has the feeling any control has been transfered to the EU due to our veto.

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>mfw Boris is basically the UK variant of Trump with fake nationalism shit and a bunch of Hollywood/Twitter bread-and-circus to make his staged opposition look retarded to make him look tolerable.

>There's going to be bot threads (paid ad space) with the UK equivalent of /ptg/ shilling the fuck out of Boris

Screencap this

I hate EU but I must say that picture is fucking bullshit. UK loves their muslim overlords

They can pressure them to let migrants in , but theres nothing legally binding that forces them , you fucking stupid moron .

If you refuse they will fine you. WHICH IS FORCE Do you have any fucking brain inside of you?
Jezus fucking christus.

>fight world war to preserve hundreds of years of democracy and independence
>hand it all over to a foreign power by tricking the population into voting for it (They told people in the 70s it was just for trade)

Gee I wonder why

Border control costs money and willpower. The EU controls the money and lacks the willpower.

>The policy was always “British interests first, nobody else should challenge us”.
Well done for misunderstanding the last 70 years.

Why does the US federal government have the right to tell states what to do you turbo retard. Its a union dipshit.

Wich country has been fined ?
Is italy fined because Salvini stops migrants ?
How fucking stupid are you man ?

Hence we need an EU army to enforce sovereignty protect our borders but the UK has been the only one vetoing that...

We dont need an EU army. Its the worst idea ever.

>People want normal trade relations. You don't need the EU to do international trade.
Well, what do you mean by “normal”?
If by “normal” you mean that it is like trade is done in the EU now without customs and regulatory barriers to trade, then I’m afraid that you’ll never get that outside of the EU.
Yes, you do not need the EU to trade, but if you go from having a customs union and single market to erecting customs and regulatory barriers to trade, like the British will soon do, you have to accept the fact that there will NEVER AGAIN be as much trade with the EU as there used to be when you were inside the customs union and single market.

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And they don't want to be part of it anymore, dipshit.
America is one people, one language. You are a thousand cultures and dozens of languages.

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one example.

They are taking legal action. That the actual fine didnt happen yet doesnt mean its not coming.

Exactly: EU army will only be used against the EU citizens.

Spain wants to get out next? - They will send a regiment of Hungarians to strike down rebellion.

UK got out just in time.

>Well, what do you mean by “normal”?

Like how Canada trades with USA.

Yes. Look at Macron beating his own citizens to pulp. He is the one screaming for EU army. He actually used BMP's with an EU flag on it to beat up his own.

And now this Kankermogool on this board is cheering for an EU army.

germany has no army so it can push economics
defacto controlls eu the only nation advocating for an eu army mfw how did u fall for this and why

Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

EU is run by unelected bureaucrats from Jewish extremist families and ex soviet union families.

Your a sucker if your supporting the EU unless they're literally paying you millions.

You do realize they'll probably invade you once they have the EU army.

UK is the founder and owner of EU.
Think about it.

No its germany.
The UK is one of the biggest stakeholders. Yes.

>Like how Canada trades with USA.
That would mean having just a zero-tariff free trade agreement.
Needless to say, that would be a huge downgrade from what exists now.
It would reintroduce strict customs checks, regulatory barriers like rules-of-origin regulations that would wipe out many existing supply chains and many more barriers to trade.
Such an arrangement would wipe out large amounts of the trade that is done in the EU nowadays.

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No it wouldnt. It would create jobs and reduce crimes. It would hinder trade, but not wipeout.
Europeans traded long before the EU we dont need it, especially not if it costs us more than our lifes

>we need to be more independent from each other
>no we will lose all our money and Russia will invade
Nice.

Because European Union stinks with Sauerkraut and Bratwurst.

Enjoy the cheap Argie beef bankrupting your farmers potatonigger

You're not wrong - we did import many pakis from the colonies. However, that's an even better reason not to import any more. Like it or not, because of the schengen zone / free movement, any member country retarded enough to let in shitskins could be a source of future shitskins for us. In addition, if we as a country want to reduce immigration, we'll take literally any chance to make a protest vote against it. Are white immigrants better than shitskins? Yeah. Is the immigration situation so tragic it's worth voting against immigration whenever and however possible? Oh god yeah.

You might as well complain about people voting AfD because "who cares, the syrians are already here and they won't be leaving".

And no more migrants.
Awesome, where do I sign up?

>It would hinder trade, but not wipeout.
That is NOT what happens when countries introduce barriers to trade.
Many businesses, especially small ones, can’t afford the extra costs that customs inevitably brings about.
And diverging regulations often stop trade completely.
That’s why there is no one who doesn’t think that there won’t be less EU-UK trade after brexit, even the brexiteers admit that now.

Syrians are just a tiny percentage of the shitskins who were flooding us, and Syrians actually count as legit war refugees. I can understand why retards vote AfD, on the outside they are populists who know how to lure people in. But if you actually read their manifesto you realize that they are pretty much the populist version of FDP, i.e. only the upper middle class and the upper class would profit.

>no one who doesnt think
Falsehood

Im done discussing, what you are stating right now are just plain lies.

So, can you give me the name of an economist, politician or anyone who thinks that EU-UK trade will increase after brexit?

>DA WORR ITZ DA WORR!
UK is living rent free in the head of the German inferiority complex.

The truth is Hans, we've moved past it. We like you, we like you a lot more than we like Pierre. It's just that we can see the EU for what it really is, The German Empire, and we would rather manifest our own failures than have failure forced upon us.

The German cries out as it strikes you

Because the EU benefits from them while they diminish. The EU is a parasitic boss. It's too late anyways. England is lost.

England was a powerful nation. Under the EU, they've lost power. They let in Turkey and other lesser nations in their stupid "alliance" which is actually control of them. The people have no rights, no freedom.

Speak for yourself. Germans are a lot worse than French. Although the women are beautiful despite being stupid.

Nice. Why are French women such sluts

>Living in sin
This is why Christian UK needs to find herself again

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