Try and do some research on any Internet search engine, and it will usually yield pre-approved results regarding anything you type.
Algorithms have already been created and put in place wherein if you type: Vaccine, Shots, Child Autism, and a whole host of other keywords, the results will almost always yield pro-vaccine sites, data, and information.
Of all the things they don't want you to question, (((they))) become the most hostile over discussion of Vaccines.
1: If vaccines are tested, and so safe, then why do they need legal immunity from being sued? Fuckall, car companies don't even have that kind of immunity
2: If vaccines are totally safe, then why do vaccine insert sheets disclose a long list of frightening and bizarre side effects associated with their vaccines?
My concern isn't with the vaccine itself. I understand how they work and it all makes sense to me. What freaks me out is the idea that they could be injecting someone with something other than 100% vaccine. How do I know what's in those needles? I have lost trust
Noah Martinez
Agreed
Jeremiah Harris
How do you know what's in anything ever?
Gavin Sanders
that is the point. I don't therefor its MY decision to make.
Carson Cruz
>Muh sovereignty
Jacob Sullivan
Your decision endangers others, and thus takes away their decision, though. Test a shot if you're that paranoid.
Jonathan Wood
>theres no evidence that vaccines are bad so that means its a conspiracy
classic schizophrenia
Josiah Fisher
If they have their shots how is it endangering them if the shots work?
In b4 muh heard immunity we have never hit the numbers required for heard immunity since the smallpox vaccine because most immigrants never get themselves or children vaccinated.
Andrew Hernandez
Literally herd immunity for one. Even with your inb4. Plus, more unguarded vectors can cause mutation surpassing the vaccine.
Ian Miller
Exactly. And many of the people who begin in CDC and other med-related gov agencies end up with 6 and 7 figure jobs at Merck, et al, down the pike. And, likely by pure coincidence, I'm sure, the decisions they made in government turn out to be incredibly useful to them in their future corporate big pharma position. Awfully cosy.
Christian Stewart
>The absolute state of burger education.
Being against vaccines is seriously a sub-80 iq point. Controlled opposition trying to paint the right as retards. The truth is that vaccines save lives.
Leo Hughes
If we need all 80+ of the current vaccines why am I ok with the 8 I got as a child why are they not forcing adults to get all the new vaccines?
Gabriel Butler
Whale.to
Bentley Cooper
Not all vaccines or illnesses are the same.
An MMR or polio vaccine is probably a good bet. No one is running out getting the Anthrax vaccine.
HPV, flu and varicella are somewhere in the middle.
I think the OPs point wants as much about vaccines as about information control. How and where can you get actual data on controversial subjects? Might have to go back to the library but even that runs the risk of their collection being skewed.
Elijah Reed
>No one is running out getting the Anthrax vaccine. Except farmers.
Jason Flores
My son's going to be born in 15-30 days. My wife and I have chosen to only vaccinate the absolute minimum amount necessary. There's a vaccination schedule (ignoring dangerous and unneeded vaccines) in this book. Check out the results of following this schedule and not vaccinating vs idiotically following the 'standard' vaccination schedule. amazon.com/gp/product/1101884231/
literally millions vaccines a year. >10 autists HURRDURR vaccines make you autistic. according to: the austitic.
There is a reason why child mortality in anti-vaccine families is higher you dumb fucking nigger.
Nicholas Brown
Sorry that pic is too small, here's an easier to read one. I think the real data is in and vaccines are absolutely linked to autism. Yet it's almost impossible to find information about it online unless you know where to start. If you type "vaccines cause autism" into youtube, you just get a bunch of "I F$@#%ing LOVE science!" videos that just echo the same bullshit. Or really poorly researched 'news' videos 'debunking' the argument.
Google this name instead: JB Handley. He's been looking into this subject for years and debunks the claims that vaccines have been 'thoroughly tested', when in fact only a few ingredients have been tested, and only one major vaccine. The rest have not been tested at all.
In reality it's just a sociological experiment really. They consider the threat of autism insignificant enough that the risk of 1/30 kids getting it seems small compared to maintaining herd immunity as we enter the next phase of human organization. We're literally cattle, so who cares if some of us are autismoids? It's better than all the worker drones dying out due to polio. But not my son. No fucking way. And no amount of social pressure is going to change that.
>not tested >test population of literally millions every year.
Okay.
Bentley James
>I understand how they work and it all makes sense to me. What freaks me out is the idea that they could be injecting someone with something other than 100% vaccine Wrong. Some user in an older thread linked a study that the "vaccines" in a hospital were actually just full of junk chemicals and no vaccines at all.
Cameron White
>Your decision endangers others This is a lie. The way immunity works is once your system have been exposed to a new pathogen, it takes 10-12 days for your B cells to create a specific immunity to that pathogen and respond. When they create those specific cells, they also create memory cells. Once you have those memory cells, the next time you are infected with that same pathogen it takes just 3-5 days for your system to respond. That's 3-5 days you're still carrying around that contageous pathogen that's so dangerous to those immuno-compromised people. Getting the immunization isn't an invincibility star, you can still catch and carry the disease. Their bodies don't care if you've been carrying it 3 days or 10 days.
Julian Anderson
Autism is genetic and judging by your post, your child is already at risk.
Cooper Watson
>unguarded vectors can cause mutation surpassing the vaccine. So can guarded ones. In fact, the guarded ones are more likely to because they kill off the non-mutated cells, leaving the mutated ones a free field to reproduce.
Joshua Parker
So where's the lie?
Far less likely.
Kevin Rodriguez
>Being against vaccines is seriously a sub-80 iq point. Controlled opposition trying to paint the right as retards. The truth is that vaccines save lives. Most of the diseases we vaccinate against aren't lethal in the first place. The opposition paints anyone who is antivax as antiscience when a goodly number of them are just anti-big-pharma and with good reason. The fact that you pigeonhole them as anti-science and dismiss them as sub-80 IQ is proof that it's working.
Angel Hughes
The lie is that by getting a vaccine you will not get the disease and therefore you won't infect the immunocompromised. It doesn't take six days of exposure to transmit these diseases.
Samuel Flores
>aren't lethal So? Many of them can be. Or are just generally detrimental.
>Far less likely. How is it far less likely? The mutated virus cells aren't reproducing with other virus cells, they're competing with them and you're removing their competition. What is MRSA?
Carter Long
That's called an acceptable risk.
Jose Perry
lel, if it's genetic then the sudden explosion of autism cases must mean autists are winning the battle of natural selection then. Yeah, and the autism rate is absolutely insane. And it's only set to get worse. They are literally injecting our children with experimental shit that doesn't work, or doesn't work long enough to matter, or that just outright fucks up their bodies at such a young age. Christ man, don't just watch sarcastic youtube videos by soibois. Look into the subject yourself.
Bentley Cooper
Just because you're "immunized" to a disease doesn't mean you can't still be a carrier for said disease. Brainwashed dumbasses in this thread calling people retards thinking people who are vaccinated builds herd immunity when really those immunized people still spread the disease. And this is ASSUMING that vaccines are what they really say they are which many cases point to them not being so.
nigga if a school ever asks me for immunization history forms im just going to fake it. What you do is get a local practitioner and sign all of the vaccines you previously had (this is the part where you can just make it up and put everything). From there you get a copy from your new doctor to show whatever school/establishment/etc. My children arent getting poisoned thx brah
Carter Lopez
>How is it far less likely? Essentially they get caught up in the cross fire, or are better identified during the conflict. >What is MRSA? Only common in ultra clean environs with immuno compromised subjects.
Me personally? 49%. But I believe the more official number is 10% or lower.
>which many cases point to them not being so. How many? More than the cases of it just working?
Bro you have national healthcare are you sperging about fat people or smokers like you're sperging about vaccines? Faggot your logic is fucked
Matthew Price
You can get all of the vaccines, friend. Is natural selection. Not going to waste time convincing an idiot to not have his kids become spergs and die as virgins. lol
Xavier Gomez
All trumplovers on Jow Forums should DEFINITELY NOT vaccinate their children. Vaccines 100% CAUSE AUTISM. They do NOTHING to cure disease. So once again, notice to all trumpfags on Jow Forums: DON'T VACCINATE YOUR KIDS! It's for their own good!
Christopher Baker
>are you sperging about fat people or smokers Yes. Absolutely. Anyone on any healthcare should be too, since they drive up premiums.
If a dearth of vaccines resulted in you, then you're not really making a compelling case.
Ayden Barnes
You say that, but you're not. You're only sperging about (((vaccines)))
Henry Baker
They don't get caught in the crossfire. The mutations prevent the B cells created from the memory cells from recognizing and attacking them, so they don't get caught until new B cells are made. A healthy immune system will still catch them in 10-12 days, but that's 5-9 days they are able to run amuck reproducing without having to compete with non-mutated viruses.
Sebastian Sanchez
mmr and polio are the worst vaccines shill
Adrian Baker
Vaccines are widely accepted by medical professionals because the benefits of administering them significantly outweigh the costs. If remarkably vicious diseases like polio can be wiped out by vaccines at the expense of less than one percent of vaccinated people experiencing side effects from inoculation, then any reasonable person may conclude that vaccines are too beneficial to completely dismiss. The case for vaccination is particularly strong when considering that not vaccinating people would result in a number of maladies that would be several times greater than vaccination alone can cause.
Jack Smith
>lets vaccinate you with a potentially detrimental vaccine against a potentially detrimental disease that you have a slim chance of getting.
What kind of rationale is this?
James Mitchell
Don't let the doctors near your son's foreskin either. This includes no retraction or manipulation of it at check ups. Congrats, user.
Anthony Davis
Hurrrrr durrrr let me make a statement with zero sources cause I'm a fucking idiot duuuuurr
Ryder Price
Because it's a vaccine thread. Not a thread discussing the the impact of degenerates on healthcare systems. Try to keep up.
>The mutations prevent Not necessarily, and not always initially. Think about how allergies can be contracted, when attached to something the immune system is fighting.
It's slim because of vaccines, and the potential for the vaccine itself to cause any kind of ailment is laughably tiny. Statistically, your argument is fucked.
Jack Hughes
Kike shilling. Or just some retard who wants to believe that theres good in the world
>Yeah, and the autism rate is absolutely insane. And it's only set to get worse. Autism was barely diagnosed 20+ years ago vs today. These days any sign of social awkwardness can put you on the "spectrum". People aren't "contracting autism", there's just vastly increased awareness around the condition (IMO some of it is detrimental & overdiagnosis).
Jeremiah Gomez
It's the extra stuff that is put into vaccines that is concerning. It has no business being there. Plus, injecting babies with so many all in one go? Makes no sense, they have weak immune systems to begin with.
The only explanation that makes sense is that the military-industrial complex wants to figure out a way to change how we think and behave, control us from birth.
Luke Flores
Just because you disagree with me does not mean that I am different from you. I would like to see you refute my argument instead of pretending that I represent a group of people that you do not like. Write a few coherent sentences with a premise that supports your conclusion so that I know you are addressing me in good faith.
Connor Taylor
>It has no business being there. Is that in your biochemical engineering opinion which you developed over the time spent researching and producing the vaccines in a professional setting?
Nathaniel Bell
Merck and GlaxoSmithKline are two of the biggest Vax manufacturers. theguardian.com/business/2012/jul/03/glaxosmithkline-fined-bribing-doctors-pharmaceuticals timesofisrael.com/israel-innovation-makes-up-half-of-merck-healthcare-revenue-top-official-says/ gsk.com/en-gb/products/viiv-healthcare/ (GSK makes AZT. independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/the-rise-and-fall-of-azt-it-was-the-drug-that-had-to-work-it-brought-hope-to-people-with-hiv-and-2320491.html essentially, AZT was fast-tracked to the market to treat HIV, but it was Toxic and there was only one human study done. That study lasted just 16 weeks. The real effects of AZT weren't seen until after the first 16 weeks: it's toxic. It works by binding the genetic material of HIV to prevent replication. In 1 out of 100 cells it binds the wrong protein. So for those taking it, 1% of their cells are not producing proteins they need. It was the only treatment for ten years. People who withered and died of HIV/AIDS in that period were actually dying from AZT. AZT was making the company 250 million a year, they had no interest in following up until they were forced to. Still trust GSK? Merck made Vioxx. Remember that? Supposedly 55,000 deaths before it was pulled but then it was revealed they knew the risks before they even put it out in 1999? theweek.co.uk/us/46535/when-half-million-americans-died-and-nobody-noticed >"We find the largest rise in American mortality rates occurred in 1999, the year Vioxx was introduced, while the largest drop occurred in 2004, the year it was withdrawn," says Unz. >"Vioxx was almost entirely marketed to the elderly, and these substantial changes in the national death-rate were completely concentrated within the 65-plus population. >They should have just renamed Vioxx the 'Save Social Security Drug' Still trust Merck?
Carson Richardson
>if you dont vaccinate YOUR kid then MY vaccinated kid is going to get sick! FUCK YOU ASSHOLE!!!!
Luke Watson
FFS. What percentage of the population ever caught Polio in the first place? Hint: it was a fraction of 1%. 1% of the people who get MMR every year is 30,000. Even at the height of Measles in the 1950s, not even 700 died. Merck's own data sheet says 0-3% of children may experience serious complications. 3% of 3 million is 90,000. PER YEAR. That's 128 times the number of people who died from it in any given year in the 1950s. What exactly do you consider reasonable?
DO NOT VACCINATE UNTIL MONTHS AFTER BIRTH AT LEAST. DO NOT LET THEM DO ANYTHING IN THE HOSPITAL.
Connor Johnson
>eschewing raw numbers for statistics
Gabriel Sullivan
>the benefits of administering them significantly outweigh the costs of course, they get a fat kick back, and no one can get sued. its a fucking win-win, unless youre the kid of course
Nothing you said is true. Vaccines are like the bench player that comes in after the blowout. Hygiene, nutrition, and sanitation had all but entirely eliminated these diseases years before a vaccine came out and "saved" everyone.
Jaxon Wood
>WHAT THE FUCK YOU DIDNT GET THE BUBONIC PLAGUE VACCINE WTF FUCK YOU ASSHOLES LIKE YOU ARE BRINGING BACK DISEASES "WE" CONQUERED
Joshua Howard
Well yes. Because raw numbers mean fuck all. If you say that 500 people were affected then, but 1000 are affected now as an argument against something, you're btfo when it's pointed out that the sample size has more than doubled.
Grayson Evans
BAD GOY THESE DISEASES ARE HORRIBLE OY VEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Ethan Jackson
>months 25 years at least
Jaxson Foster
>Hygiene, nutrition, and sanitation had all but entirely eliminated these diseases years before a vaccine came out and "saved" everyone. preach, brotha, preach. imagine, trusting people who need to lie about their "proven" "safe and effective 'medicine'"
The goyim must be inoculated against all possible things so that disease and threats to their safety cannot be used as an excuse to reject migrant populations.
At the same time, migrant populations will be introduced into goy communities in order to force their continued dependency on big pharma's vaccines and medications.
>Why do we need nutrition? We already have hygiene! >Why do we need hygiene? We already have nutrition? >Why do we need medicine? We already have snake oil!
Nolan Powell
Have you considered that's what comes up because the majority of people aren't fucking stupid?
Isaiah Diaz
Unless your titers fall below a certain level you have enough circulating pathogen specific IgG antibodies to neutralize the pathogen you’re exposed to though.
Ryan Campbell
more proof that ancaps support gay sex
Kevin Robinson
>1 post by this id
Matthew Bell
>tfw people hundreds of years ago have a better understanding of our world than you do
No. What you're doing is cloaking it in math that the average person isn't going to do so you can declare 1% as acceptable losses. I converted the statistics to raw numbers for the comparison. If you like, you can find the statistics for Measles. You will find that it was falling rapidly over the 20th century for decades before the vaccine was introduced.
John Murphy
I agree. But he was saying he planned to vaccinate and do "as little as possible" at the hospital. They will be HOUNDING the shit out of him. Best to hard and fast draw that initial line and then reassess if this is his opinion. Wew lad. You realize the people dying from these weak viruses were literally living with feces running down the street, ate only corn, worked 16 hours a day breathing factory air, etc? Oh wait, it's an Aussie...
Logan Garcia
>our "medically advanced" society isn't sicker than previous generations >tfw people thousands of years ago understood the simple truth lmaoing @ your life
>cloaking it in math Statistics are truth. Raw numbers are the cloak so you can make it sound bigger or smaller than it really is. And yes, measles was falling. But that doesn't mean we aren't allowed to further combat it, or any other disease.
>You realize I do, actually, and it sounds a lot like modern 3rd would nations like the USA. The point was that more prongs supporting each other in an attack are always better.
Statistically, it isn't. And I'm not disputing the importance of diet, Karen.
Nathaniel Adams
Does anyone have the vaccine schedule for children in the US?
Zachary Rodriguez
>~70% of the united states is "medicated" >new diseases popping up.. i mean "finally being detected" >statistically not more sick than previous generations haha, youre cute
dont worry user, our government would never wish harm on our bodies or health. trust your doctor
Yes, we were much healthier when people died from being struck down by the Gods, instead of being able to analyse them and find out what the disease is. And perhaps a 1st world nation would be a better example.
Anthony Ramirez
It was 6, then 11, and now it's like 20 bigot.
Lincoln Perry
>more prongs supporting each other in an attack are always better. The prongs you are talking about are being added when they aren't necessary and therefore a detriment. If sanitation and lifestyle has all but eliminated a disease then why are you going to purposely injure yourself to lower the minuscule chance of any trouble arising?
A vaccine DAMAGES the person on purpose to avoid future more severe damage. If there is basically zero chance of getting hurt without the vaccine...why sign up for GUARANTEED damage? There is this thing called a "search engine." Even the worst one brought this up immediately. cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/hcp/imz/child-adolescent.html IRRELEVANT. The situation exists as it is. Measles is less dangerous than the vaccine if you are well fed and sanitary. END OF STORY. If you are not well fed or sanitary, get the vaccine. I'd imagine this applies to all Aussie criminal scum.
Landon Lee
>Unless You say that like it's not inevitable. When I was a kid and got all my shots, they said I was now immune, which I was. Memory cells stick around. Then when I was an adult they told me I needed booster shots for all these immunizations that I had gotten as a child for diseases I was supposedly immune to.
Anti-vaxers are cancer and think they know more than docter kys sage
Juan Nguyen
98.7% vaccination coverage where I live. fuck off faggot
Jace Diaz
You know the gist of what he was saying to be true.
Or maybe you don't because you're clearly so much smart than literally the rest of the world and you get off by thinking you know more than other people but in reality you're just a delusion faggot kys
>they aren't necessary Untrue. You might be thinking of anti-bacterial soaps. >and therefore a detriment Doesn't logically follow. >why are you going to purposely injure yourself Because it isn't really injury, and adds a good layer of security, which is statistically beneficial. You may as well complain about exercise, since it actually does "injure" you to make you better. >A vaccine DAMAGES the person on purpose Misrepresentation. >Measles is less dangerous than the vaccine Not according to statistics. And what if you were to ever be exposed to someone who isn't as well fed and sanitary as you? >I'd imagine this applies to all Aussie criminal scum. Nah, our criminals are actually well taken care of. It's not a cultural industry or sport like the USA.
Benjamin Williams
this really sums up the arguments. its one side completely ignorant going off "expert" opinion. all the while its doctors who are the ones coming out pioneering this "anti-vax" movement in the first place. there really is no debate to be had, the science actually IS settled, but not in the favor of "medicine".
experts say mercury is actually good for you user, dont worry about eating too much fish. fucking go for it! youtube.com/watch?v=kyR2XeLjYTU
