What do you mean by we shouldn't support israel? they're our greatest ally!!!

>what do you mean by we shouldn't support israel? they're our greatest ally!!!

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It's true the US benefits greatly from their existence. Without Israel there is objectively a muslim caliphate on that land that is hostile to the USA. There is no scenario in which this is good. Israel is our proxy state, not the other way around. Jow Forums is totally ignorant on this one. It's international jewry that is the powerful, shadowy threat. Israel is legit just a backwards desert nation with a relatively small economy and not much geopolitical power.

Kys, schlomo.

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>that is hostile to the USA
Now explain why Muslims would have any problem with the USA if it wasn't for the Jews

The line "They hate us for our freedom" is literally objectively true. It's not just propaganda. They are religious zealots in the middle east. They execute people based on their retarded religious texts. They consider your existence as an "infidel" a sacrilege.

This isn't a debate. This isn't something open for discussion. This is the objective reality of the entire middle east region and that is why we perpetually maintain a military presence there. It's not "because of Israel". We have an alliance with Israel because they are our only ally in that region.

fuck you.

Yeah, okay, kike.
The Jews are responsible for the destabilization of the Middle East and the creation of radical Islam. Middle Easterners are only hostile to the USA because of our association with Israel. They're a parasite that steals our tax dollars, steals our nuclear secrets/uranium, bombs our ships, blows up our buildings, sells our technology to our adversaries, and influences our foreign policy decisions through private lobbyist groups. Our relationship with Israel is a complete one-way street. We gain nothing from them.

unz.com/pgiraldi/israel-is-no-ally/

>The Jews are responsible for the destabilization of the Middle East and the creation of radical Islam.
Dude have you actually taken the time to read the Quran? Lol. No. You are wrong.

They are religious zealots who cut people's heads off because of what we could consider very minor infractions to their religious law and order. There's no defending them. There's no realistic way to play this "Muslims are the good guy and the middle east is full of noble savages" line. They are absolute barbaric savages.
I am your friend and only telling you the truth.

The Strategic Ally Myth

"Israeli tunnel vision means that most of the actual intelligence that Tel Aviv collects is on organizations that resent being occupied or bombed by Israel, not groups that actually threaten the US, a point ignored by Zuckerman. And to those who argue that using billions of American taxpayers dollars to buy US military equipment for Israel is not necessarily money well spent in the middle of a financial crisis or that Washington’s unlimited support for Tel Aviv is precisely the reason why the United States is in trouble around the world, Zuckerman delivers a final, devastating retort. Israel has an unrivaled location on the Mediterranean. Per Zuckerman “One analyst has described Israel as a ‘strategic aircraft carrier’…”

Well, Mort Zuckerman is certainly entitled to his own opinion and I suppose he can use the magazine he owns to spread Israeli hasbara, but the notion that Israel is some kind of strategic asset for the United States is nonsense, a complete fabrication. Most recently, Chas Freeman has pointed out that Israel is useless for the projection of American power. The US has numerous bases in Arab countries but is not allowed to use any military base in Israel. Washington’s own carrier groups and other forces in place all over the Middle East, including the Red Sea, have capabilities that far exceed those of the Israel Defense Forces. Israel has never been a strategic asset or any asset at all, always a liability. Even the stockpiles of US equipment in Israel are a typical bit of bonus support for Tel Aviv from Congress, placed there for the Israelis to use “in emergencies” while making it appear that they are for American forces. The supplies are, in fact, regularly looted by the Israelis, leaving largely unusable or picked over equipment for US forces if it should ever be needed. ..."
original.antiwar.com/giraldi/2010/05/26/the-strategic-ally-myth/

Lmao Jews are scrawny little rats.

The Laws Against Non-Jews
bintjbeil.com/E/occupation/shahak.html
Judaism in its own Words – Who is Human? Who is Not?
biblebelievers.org.au/judaism.htm

>Israel is our proxy state
Good goyim, don't go thinking that in reverse now.

you faggots are losing your fucking minds

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you know that the MB is actually controlled by kikes don't you?

shill tranny spotted

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I fucking hate muzzies like anyone else but jesus christ just leave them the fuck alone, if they don't attack us directly then there is no point in fucking with them. Kill yourself neocon.

Lmao, AIPAC isn't even a top 30 lobby you mook

They're hostile to us because we support Israel. If we didn't they wouldn't wanna kill us anymore.

Wow what a big wall of empty platitude absolutely devoid of any hard substance.
But Jews don't cut peoples heads off or actually execute people cuz "they ate shellfish on a Sunday" or whatever the weird ass rules in the Abrahamic books are.
Muslims do all of that shit. Not based on the old testament Jew books but based on the Quran.
Tell me why or how the opposite is true.
Wut?

In terms of money lobbied? There is no way they would be honest with how much they lobby, not even the other big lobbyists.

My countrymen do this also.
Fags

BASED.

HAVE YOU SEEN THESE INCREDIBLE ISRAELI AID NUMBERS PEDES?

>Tell me why or how the opposite is true
38 billion a year for their defense with a GDP of 350 billion (if the US had that much it would be 2 trillion dollars for defense. Not to mention the 5 trillion dollars we've spent on neocon wars for oil and to help out Israel. I can almost guarantee you Iran is next.

jews have, do, and will murder non jews when they have the power to do so, as in Palestine.

Saying they dont when they can't is meaningless.

they intend to rule the world.

Jews are an evil people, taken as a whole that is, precisely because their religion is at its heart a Supremacist, megalomaniacal ideology.

unz.com/article/terrorism-how-the-israeli-state-was-won/

abc.net.au/4corners/stories/2014/02/10/3939266.htm

archive.org/download/JewishSupremacismByDavidDuke/jewish-supremacism-david-duke.pdf


educate-yourself.org/cn/MastersOfDeception.pdf

David Duke is to whites what Orthodox Judaism and Zionists are to jews.

But only he gets called a racist.

Only he is accused of jew hate by documenting the jews' hate...


Read, if only one thing, Hoffman's book, and note that Jewish writers own words are the best evidence

christianidentitychurch.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/hoffman-ii-michael-a-judaisms-strange-gods.pdf

ditto reading the Torah's passages on usury and world conquest:


judeofascism.com/2011/11/jewish-doctrine-vowing-to-indebt.html?m=1


jewishracism.blogspot.com/2009/03/1-bestseller-proves-that-usury-is.html?m=1

No. Not an option. They have oil. That means that despite their low IQs and savage nature they can become economic powerhouses if left unchecked. Economic warfare is warfare in the 21st century. With a powerful and unchecked middle east economy, these muslims caliphates can develop nuclear and even worse biological weapons which can be deployed against the US mainland. This is a simple tactical reality and calculation which I do not accept, and I resent anti-war lobbyists like yourself and Tucker Carlson and all of the rest.
They throw gays off of roofs and they believe that you are an affront to Allah if you don't do the same.
Understand that "an unchecked middle east" free of US intevention reults in ISIS. ISIS would be in complete control of that entire region right now if not for the US bombing them. ISIS printed materials that deliberately declared that the west had to be wiped off the map.

You people with your entire "just hold hands with the religious head-cutting-off-nutjobs and try to be their friends" are peak western decadence expressing itself in anti-war hippie peace sentiment.
The aid is for their defense budget, which they pump back into our economy and government coffers by buying direct and solely from our contractors. This is an old and ignorant talking point you guys have been fooled by along with all of Jow Forums. All it does it circulate money, which essentially "makes more money" as if the money is in 3 places at once. It subsidizes jobs in the USA. It increases our own GDP. It makes our own defense contractors more wealthy which increases our own military readiness. It's all good.

What do our politicians get in return then for supporting such shitty treacherous country?

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Hoffman's Book:

rymcovenant.net//wp-content/uploads/2016/09/hoffman-ii-michael-a-judaisms-strange-gods.pdf

(link was shoahed)

Yeah but it's not about holding hands and getting gay with Jews, and jacking eachother off and licking eachothers buttholes. It's about an entire region that cumulatively has exponentially more economic power military potentiality against us. And demonstrably more open hostility against us.

So this false dichotomy of "pick a side, jews or muslims" is crap. It's garbage. We have an alliance with Israel because they suit our direct and immediate interests, not because of some weird incestuous love story as people on Jow Forums make it out as.

New Evidence Proves Israel Attacked USS Liberty With Orders To Kill

A new investigation into the attack on the USS Liberty by Israel, an attack that killed 34 Americans, proves the incident was not a mistake.
mintpressnews.com/evidence-proves-israel-attack-uss-liberty-orders-kill-americans/198757/

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Moshe, you're so full of shit your eyes are brown.

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>these muslims caliphates can develop nuclear and even worse biological weapons which can be deployed against the US mainland
If they're used on the US, which they fucking won't, then I would be for killing those stupid fucking sandniggers.

>"I will want to kill them only once I'm already dead"
OK. I am sure that you are an intelligent being. Actually, I have to say that IDK what your race is, but your mentality is indicative of the entire failure of the white man in general. Pathetic weakness.

The money that those fucking kikes circulate into our economy is a fucking sham, a country with a GDP of 350 billion isn't going to make a positive contribution to our economy. Deregulating and reducing lobbying would do WAY more than spending billions on Israel every year.

>tfw you realize that the "Russian trolls" and "Russian agents" who "interfered" on social media was Jow Forums shitposters making stupid memes in paint and posting them everywhere while using multiple proxies

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ehmm... actually... Jews hate Trump.... Trump is literally Hitler....

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This post couldn't be more fucking Jewish, holy shit. The mudslimes would never fucking touch us again if we didn't support the kike show that is Israel.

Oh shit yeah thats right, trumps the ONLY pro isreal candidate and is starting constant wars for them, phew thanks op. I was actually thinking about how anti israel and anti war mike pense, hillary and ted cruz were just today, would of been much better and thankfully we have good candidates like tulsi who go agaisnt silly pointless things like bds haha, man i hate trump now!

They're religious zealots, yes they would. It's not a matter of debate. If you don't know that the middle east is openly hostile to the entire western world based on its perceived impropriety to Allah then you shouldn't even be taking part in this discussion. You clearly have no concept of what you're talking about. Maybe you've been lied to and digested left-wing propaganda that was only ever designed to get you to consent to your own destruction from the beginning. Maybe you were too dumb to pick up on it. Either way it's clear that you have no clue what you're talking about.

ISIS would literally cut your head off for watching fucking anime and shit. You have no idea. And the entire middle east would be ruled by ISIS right now if not for express US military intervention.

Youre a fucking retard dude

I implore you to take the time to actually read some of the press materials put out by ISIS. They used to publish literal monthly and quaterly magazines and shit. They make it extremely clear their animus against us is absolutely "for our freedoms" and they absolutely believe that we need to die for them. End of story. It's not a debate. You can't "co-exist peacefully" with violent and barbaric religious zealots. IDK how the white man has never come to understand this.

Oh really? Do you actually know anything about ISIS? Have you listened to anything they have to say? Have you done any research and taken any information from them first hand? They literally openly and expressly want to murder the west for its freedom. Like seriously, legit "for its freedom". It's not a propaganda line that Republicans shill. They openly say it themselves. You people are so fucking clueless and have no clue the dark evil that you are condoning when you defend so-called "radical" Islam and the middle east region.

Here dickheads, read for yourselves. They've got a couple of the ISIS propaganda magazines up here. You want to see what you're really defending? You want to see if "they hate us for our freedoms" is actually just "dumb israili kiked republican propaganda!" or something else? Just read for yourselves. There is no equation under which any of you can be considered to be correct on this issue. Period. This is from the horses mouth itself and just one example of many.

clarionproject.org/islamic-state-isis-isil-propaganda-magazine-dabiq-50/

And those of you that are Christian and think that you will just coexist with Muslims cuz "you're both religious" or "you both worship the same God" or whatever. Guess what? Nope.
>clarionproject.org/wp-content/uploads/islamic-state-magazine-dabiq-fifteen-breaking-the-cross.pdf
They want to fucking kill you. Enslave you. They are barbarians. They openly believe in slavery and killing women and children and an endless list of other fucked up shit that people are always telling you about, but you just turn your head and cover your ears and it's like talking to a fucking brick wall.

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IDK here is another great little installment of one of their magazines. Cutely titled "Just Terror". IDK there is a short summary in pic related and here is a direct link if you want to read it yourselves.
>clarionproject.org/wp-content/uploads/islamic-state-isis-isil-dabiq-magazine-issue-12-just-terror.pdf
IDK WTF it is going to take for you people to understand that this shit is real and these people want to fucking murder you, and yes they want to do it "for your freedoms".

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Why not let the muzzies take over Israel, then when their forces are all in one place nuke them? Two roaches with one stone. Why does it have to be one or the other?

please go back to ptg and the_dreidel

If we wipeout Muslims, then can we wipeout Israel? Whites should just take the Middle East for themselves and kill everyone else. Thanks Rabbi, this has been eye-opening.

>the_dreidel

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MAD doctrine my dude. Iran needs nukes for its own survival.

Migatards btfo