You have 10 seconds to explain why you're not a Marxist-Leninist. Go!

That's when there is already an abundance of goods, in other words when scarcity no longer exists. The Soviet constitution says "From each according to his ability, to each according to his work" which is more applicable in a developing ML state.
Do you believe in private property or personal property? Pretty much everyone believes in personal property, even communists.

Read The Permanent Revolution bro. He was literally a continuator of the Lenin idea and he wanted to continue the Revolution till the end. On the other hand, Stalin was a reactionist and imperial scum.

Im an adult.

Would the Soviet Union have lived as long and industrialized as fast if it focused on inciting revolution in other parts of the world rather than developing itself? Without Stalin the Soviet Union couldn't have become the superpower it was for much of it's history.
So were all communist leaders.

You should consider not aspiring to undesirable ends. Hierarchy is important and life is tragic, and as Communists have already proven time and time again everything gets exponentially worse when we deny these facts.

Also it's called "reactionary"... and "imperialist scum"...

Because i am pro race, tradition and a anti degenerate
Which is what most of you new age communists hate.

You have 10 seconds to give me a country that has thrived on communism. Go!

I like food

I like eating.

I believe in the ownership of private property, and I believe that Marx's dichotomy between private and personal property is a false dichotomy; regardless of how you wish to try and redefine it, private and personal property are fundamentally the same thing.

Our goal was and still is the global revolution and one-world regime owned by a workers. The SU wasn't enough.

>Hierarchy is important
Why?
>life is tragic
It's a lot less tragic now than it was 500 years ago.
>everything gets exponentially worse when we deny these facts
Many communist states were a lot better off after they became communist, though.
You can be all of those things (except maybe "pro race" when pro race refers to the genocide of other races) and still be a communist.
The Soviet Union went from a backwards feudal nation that was behind the rest of Europe to an industrial powerhouse with rockets in space in only 50 years. North Korea's GDP was higher than South Korea's for most of it's history. Cuba is a world leader in healthcare and is doing a lot better than most of South America.
The CIA admitted the average Soviet citizen had a healthier diet than Americans.
How do you suppose we get there without developing socialism in any way we can? In the case of the Soviet Union the best course of action was to develop socalism within it's own borders before trying to bother Europe. Nukes were a much better way of holding the global revolution together than Trotsky's idea.

You fucking suck

Ancap is superior and is based in a priori perceptions of human consciousness unlike the fundamentals of Marxism which are definitionally materialistic.
Need is not a measure of value.

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What if you want something personally owned by you to be private?

I like being a fat selfish capitalist.

Uh huh.
"Anarcho"-capitalism is an oxymoron because you still have people ruling over you
>Need is not a measure of value
So supply and demand is false?
Are you talking a toothbrush or a factory?
Nice to see an honest American for once.

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I don't like isms

Formerly...

>"Anarcho"-capitalism is an oxymoron because you still have people ruling over you
Really? Who?

I prefer a nation where my race is able to exist and prosper on its own, the ultimate goal of communism is a country that spans the globe, that would obviously encompass all of races, therefore I cannot support communism. Communists have a strong history of allies in the back calling them "counter revolutionaries" "reactionary" "fascist"...etc.

But do you have an argument against my self interests or will you forever attempt to take what is mine by force?

too busy fucking my dog

We can call it something else if you want. No pressure!
The people owning the property you use to produce goods?
Why is your race so fucking important? If you had said culture I would have been fine with it but cultures inevitably change anyway.
If you want to keep being a fat selfish parasite then we will take what's yours by force. That's what a revolution is.

Under full communism you could fuck your dog all day. Think of the possibilities!

I'm sorry OP but I'm not a bad enough dude to rescue Osaka.

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How do they rule over me? I dont have to work with them if I dont want to.

IQ too high

She'll be fine.
How are you supposed to obtain food or housing if a bunch of rich people own all the land?
Thanks to your perfect skull shape?

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Except they dont due to the iron law of Oligarchy. Free markets without states trend towards decentralization not centralization. I can own my own land and grow my own food

>Free markets without states trend towards decentralization not centralization
What about when a bunch of monopolies appear and all the rich property owners establish cartels to make conditions horrible for everyone except them? This has happened many times even in regulated free markets.
>I can own my own land and grow my own food
Not if others own all the land. A few Jeff Bezos could easily obtain all the land in America. You don't want to violate the NAP do you?

By
>I don't like "isms"
I mean that I prefer to think for myself & not adhere to a set of ideas or principles formulated by someone else.
I like sharing.
I like being nice.
I like private ownership, and I like public ownership.
I think single payer healthcare is a great idea, and I think innovation & entrepreneurship are lovely.
I am all for self determination, and I really think small, local governments are ideal.

Mum tought me to stay away from cults.

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Jews

>we will take what's yours by force
I don't believe in initiating violence.

>even in regulated free markets
Therefore not free markets
Iron law of Oligarchy makes it so that monopolies over large regions are impossible on a market without subsidy and entry barriers
>others own all the land
Then I can work and buy it off them or off others who will sell it to me

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Because I dont hate people who believe in God, even if I dont believe myself. I have no desire to destroy churches and have jesus zealots executed for hoping there is paradise after life. Marxist-leninists are pure evil.

>It's a goal to aspire to
no, it's a lie created to deceive morons like you into giving more power to a handful of "revolutionaries" who will then never let go of their powers
they become the new state
they become the new upper class
and you remain a moron

Dont beleive in the Dialectic, nor in the ability of the proles (or the party) to govern, thanks to Kronstadt. Its an urban ideology designed to expropriate everyone else to make urban losers happy, and thus runs into logistics problems and collapses. Same problems being redone again and again since the French Revolution, and no incentive for small businessowners or farmers to hand over the MOP that they already have. Claims to be anti-slavery but any time a sect wishes to govern themselves or not collectivize to the party's liking they are enslaved.

The more likely scenario with communism is communism in seperate States divided by race. If you're still trying to do that one world meme you'd have to condition "racism" out of every generation like the current establishment does with whites in Western nation's or mix the races... If not any of that then expect high racial tension/conflict.
>Why is your race so fucking important?

Because I am proud of my race accomplishments, ideas, and history.

Question for you: Why are the non-whites (especially Black) in your movement so racially conscious?
I thought you were going for the equality meme but it's literally a anti-white circlejerk.

Wonderful, and who else are parasites?

I like food.

I'm not gay or retarded.

i like food

>You have 10 seconds to explain why you're not a Marxist-Leninist. Go!
I'm not an anti-White Jew.

Why are you promoting a Jewish and anti-White ideology on Jow Forums?

I have savings that I invest, so I’m richer than my peers when looking for a gf/wife.That, and I have cushy internship for (((defense company)))

>Why is your race so fucking important?
Race is the basis for civilization. Race exist. Race matters.

>why are you discussing politics on the politics board?

But anti-White and Jewish ideologies don't belong on Jow Forums, which is a NatSoc board.

Because my life would still suck, possibly more so.

Not in the rules, bub
Literally this is the right board for this discussion.

Because you’re not entitled to any of my shit.

this

think for yourself, get your cult out of here

>Not in the rules, bub
Yeah, because there's mods on Jow Forums.

>Literally this is the right board for this discussion.
There is no discussion. Communism is Jewish. Therefore it's anti-White. Thus it doesn't belong in White nations. Discussion over.

I'm not a kike and I like having food

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dumbass

>dumbass
Not an argument, commie.

>pol is a safe space
Eat a dick

Get out ukrainjewfag

What do you want?
An echo-chamber hugbox?
If your opinion/ philosophy is correct, it should be able to withstand scrutiny, and it should win over the other ones you disagree with.

It sounds like you're a communist that doesn't know you're a communist.
>I mean that I prefer to think for myself & not adhere to a set of ideas or principles formulated by someone else.
Leftists have a much broader set of ideas than right wingers. Leftist infighting is VERY common.
>I like sharing.
Obviously
>I like being nice.
Me too!
>I like private ownership, and I like public ownership.
Me too! I like owning personal possessions but factories and infrastructure should be owned collectively.
>I think single payer healthcare is a great idea
Obviously a socialist idea.
>I think innovation & entrepreneurship are lovely
Communism hasn't even stopped invention. The Soviet Union was the first into space, for example.
>I really think small, local governments are ideal
What about no government?
Elaborate?
No one *wants* to, but what other option do you have at that point? They could just give up their excessive wealth and live like the rest of us.
>Then I can work
For who?
Christian socialism is a thing.
>they become the new state
Yeah, that's the point. They're a vanguard.
>they become the new upper class
This can happen but a corrupt government is just as likely in a capitalist state.
>Because I am proud of my race accomplishments, ideas, and history.
You mean your cultures accomplishments, ideas, and history?
>Why are the non-whites (especially Black) in your movement so racially conscious
Because modern leftism has replaced class struggle with identity politics. Real communists don't like it either.
No one else? I don't know criminals? Just like in any country on earth?
LOL! HAHA!
No, culture and ideology is.
Why does your life suck now?
I know. That's the point.

>>pol is a safe space
Jow Forums is a free-speech space.
Which is why lies like Communism don't take root here.
Communism can only exist when censorship abounds.
Since the adherents of Communism would kill the beliefs of Jow Forums (notice I say kill, not discredit), it doesn't belong here.

>Eat a dick
What makes you think Jewish ideologies have the right to even be considered in White nations?

i got a working brain

That doesn't sound like free speech to me. Do you mean free as in freedom fries?

>No, culture and ideology is.
Only Whites can create and benefit from White culture. White Culture comes from the White race.
Only Whites can create White ideology. White ideology comes from the White race.

>LOL! HAHA!
So you deny the facts that Marx, Lenin and Trotsky were Jewish and Engels, Stalin and Mao loved the Jews?

Source?

Get out of Jow Forums now you intellectual lysenkoist, margsizm lebonism died because its theory was a thinly veiled jewish plot to get control in their filthy tribal hands at the expense of the goy based on socialpop marketing of 'equality'
LITERALLY KYS

>That doesn't sound like free speech to me.
Well you're a Communist, you don't know anything.

>Do you mean free as in freedom fries?
I mean we are fee from Jewish lies and subversion.

Literally using the Karl poppers paradox of tolerance the thing used to justify the same proposed punitive actions against people for being racists. The amount of irony we're on holy fucking shit. PS: This isn't a board for white people it's a board to talk politics it's not made for white people suck a dick I must repeat this.

No but why does it matter?
So free as in freedom fries and lard, got it.

>Source?
Find it yourself.
I'm not going to spoonfeed you sources that you'll just dismiss out of hand just like you anti-White Judeo Communists always do.

You're the one who insisted on blaiming the Jews so I'm expecting you to have a real good source for it.

Because the idea has been around for over a hundred years and every time someone's tried it they've failed by all metrics and are excused by idiots who say it wasn't real communism.

It's a shit ideology, if it wasn't a shit ideology you wouldn't have to be asking people why they weren't on board with it because they'd be living in a functional marxist-leninist society.

cuz they killed fuck-ton of people in my country

>it's not made for white people
Of course an anti-White that is favorable to Communism would say that.

I'm not a jude

Not an argument.

>No but why does it matter?
Because the Jews are inherently anti-White and a non-White race.

Why are you fine with flooding White nations with Jews and other non-White races?

>they've failed by all metrics
They fucking haven't though. Do you deny that Russia was a shithole before the Communists took power? The Tsar was an incompetent asshat.
Sorry to say buddy but you and I live on two different planets. I can't put myself in the mindset of someone like you. Give me some sources if you want me to understand why being "white" is such a fucking accomplishment.

God you're a stuttering homo. Go back to Tumblr.

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>no government
Government is necessary at a very basic level to work together: for instance in order to build a bridge or a library.
As far as taking property by force, I do not believe that is the prerogative of anyone to decide what anyone else should do or have, except when it comes to harming another person.
I am probably closest to libretarian, but I don't like labels.

im not going to be your slave faggot

>You're the one who insisted on blaiming the Jews
Because they're responsible for it.

>so I'm expecting you to have a real good source for it.
You want sources for the Jews and Communism?

Anti-Semitism
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1931/01/12.htm
archive.is/XxRXf

A Jew in Mao's China
blogs.forward.com/the-arty-semite/159051/a-jew-in-maos-china/
archive.is/zuvnn

The Jewish Role in the Bolshevik Revolution and Russia's Early Soviet Regime
ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n1p-4_Weber.html
archive.is/kFzh2

Karl Marx
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx#Childhood_and_early_education:_1818.E2.80.931836
archive.is/rwTdC

Lenin's Jewish Roots Confirmed
ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4073133,00.html
archive.is/Olzl2

Leon Trotsky
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trotski#Childhood_and_family_.281879.E2.80.931895.29
archive.is/xMRhM

Putin: First Soviet Government was Mostly Jewish
jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-News/Putin-First-Soviet-government-was-mostly-Jewish-317150
archive.is/uNDV5

Stalin's Jewish Affair
ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3450203,00.html
archive.is/3nt8w

Stalin's Jews
ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
archive.is/WAARm

On Antisemitism
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1890/04/19.htm

Because I'm not a leech

>Sorry to say buddy but you and I live on two different planets.
Yes, you live on an anti-White Jewish planet.

>I can't put myself in the mindset of someone like you.
Because you're anti-White and Jewish.

>Give me some sources if you want me to understand why being "white" is such a fucking accomplishment.
You act like an anti-White and then you're shocked when someone calls you out on it.

>. Do you deny that Russia was a shithole before the Communists took power?
same backwards ass shithole France Germany and britain were 100 years before that, but you dont hear about France Germany and britain losing 10s of millions during their Modernisationperiods, only the communist places

>Not an argument.
I'm not here to argue with anti-White Judeo Communists. I'm here to prove them wrong.