Why is there a massive push to bring in poos when they're nowhere near the best in any programming or IT field...

God forbid an actually political topic is discussed, go back to cleaning toilets pooland

What bill is this?

financialexpress.com/world-news/good-news-for-indian-techies-holding-h1b-visa-us-congress-to-vote-on-bill-to-remove-country-cap-on-green-card/1637643/

It passed the house, senate still needs voting

Oh, that, Poos do physics lad. Also engineering. They are cheap, have a good work ethic, and operate at enough of a technical level to get the job done but are dumb enough not to question the bigger picture. The sheer volume of them also brings costs down.

India is desperate to ship millions out of the country. they won't do a trade deal with UK unless we take in millions of them

"The US H-1B visa is a non-immigrant visa that allows US companies to employ graduate level workers in specialty occupations that require theoretical or technical expertise in specialized fields such as in IT, finance, accounting, architecture, engineering, mathematics, science, medicine, etc"

NOT just computer science.

>India is not even in the top 5 of any field.

But #1 in the street shitting department.

Greeeeeeeeeed.

Also drives wages down for actual american engineers. Poo don't rank anywhere near the top in engineering either.

Actually this is only a positive for companies than get to pay their employees far less, this creates artificial competition as buying a degree is much cheaper than attending american university.

You answered your own question. I use them to aggregate formulas and set up laser tables--for example. Graduate level work but certainly not industry-insiders. Poos don't go to the top--the fluff out the well payed middle.

>ukraine
>security
hahaha
doubt it

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You would be right if that was what they were being used for.

Are you an employer or something?

Probably a result of defending against Russian cyber attacks. Either way these are official statistics.

>when your code is shit because that's the only thing your programmers produce
reminder that if it's brown, flush it down

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The same reason why Central and South Americans are dominate in the landscaping field without being the best: they're cheap and willing to work long hours. Hell, they're just willing to work.

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because importing experts wont keep the wages down

they use homomorphic encrypted computation.

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Chinese are probably cheap as well and way more skilled. But, no one wants the inevitable security risks associated with those in the U.S.

some of the best hackers (past and present) are from eastern europe

you are using one right now

Where the fuck is 'Murica?

We invented this shit

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It makes sense cause poos have way too many goddamn people thus leading to 1 percent being smart as fuck, while the other 99 percent who tries is retarded.

Sadly poos drove our average score so low we aren't good at anything compared to Euros and Asians.

If the ones that come here are the best of the best i don't want to see what the ones back in India are like.

SAUCE on this obvious fake?

How is it fake?

blog.hackerrank.com/which-country-would-win-in-the-programming-olympics/

You could say that. I deal with a lot of grad students, and I certainly don't pay them. The do nice work on graduate projects that are on contract with corporations.

You really should look in to what poos are up to.

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Maybe, but of all branches i only expected to find Russia on the first place in security(cause of dr.Web and KAV and yandex security), but it is not even in top 5. Thats strange, other branches are ok, but our companies pay really big attention to cyber security, maybe they are proxy cockhols)

Not what I’m saying, this world isn’t a fucking meritocracy, thankfully poo children integrate very well, which is good for the average American populace cause they’re not heading the route of south of the border cunts. I hope only the good ones get sent, none of the bald midgets with no fucking brain.

Poos come here to get their college degree and a masters or doctorate--usually a doctorate.

I'm not sure how aware you are of how the doctoral process works but I can tell you it's full of POOS.

They need more visas to get a bunch of Indians to subsidize our colleges because the undergraduate enrollment numbers are abysmal.

While they are here we use them as free-graduate-slaves. (Most of them) Sure, lots stay here after graduation but it's the sheer volume of POOS they want to flood the schools with.

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>Poos are cheap work slaves
This.

The cost savings are booked and the C-suite enriched with bonuses in the present quarter, while the real price for substituting shit for quality is paid later - by someone else.

It's the manufacturing equivalent of a person substituting cheese puffs and diet soda for healthy food. There's an initial cost savings, but eventually things go to hell and the real price must be paid.

I'm about to start my final year as an undergrad in chemical engineering. From my experience poos are notorious for cheating. Chinese are too but they do it by sharing answers prior to the exam or getting previous exams from their friends which is technically cheating. Poos do it in a stupid way, when i took calc 2 there was a poo that got caught sitting on his phone typing in questions on wolframalpha. The professor quietly walked up behind him and right in his ear said "what are you doing" and the threw his phone in the air because he got scared.

I never saw Americans actually cheat, it's always exchange students and recent immigrants.

I see, desu, this is your first experience with niggers. Most Poos are niggers, and that is nigger behavior you described.

Yes, most are garbage but they are just here, ironically, to subsidize the US's flailing colleges.

Industry knows. Poos go to college, get a doctorate, get used by industry for a few years and the shit ones go home promptly or cycle through the mid-wages but never upper tier.

Gotta be fake. Finland is one of the leaders in Digital Security. Hell, NATO buys systems from them.

They are so good at security: they didn't pop up on the radar for doing security.

a few great comments
> Didn't read the excerpt. I do hackerrank challenges all the time. Literally like 2 or 3 a week. Those competitions have nothing to do with being a good developer. The vast majority of their challenges are algorithms based. Algorithms != development.

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Is Z-score best technique to normalize scores and make comparison. Let us take a simplistic example:
1. India scores (85, 80, 95) in Algo, DS, Functional out of 100 marks each.
2. Russia scores (99, 15, 99).
3. China scores (95, 19, 98).
4. Poland scores (95, 10, 99).
A layman would point out that DS paper was extremely tough and India scoring 80 is cool and the outright winner (based on Average scores).
Average marks for India, Russia, China and Poland would be (87, 71, 71, 68).
Average Z-scores, however, for these 4 countries would be (-0.53, 0.42, 0.01, 0.10) making Russia the winner of the contest and India the 4rth ranker!!
The point i’m trying to make is that z-scores are not giving much weight to India scoring high in DS, and punishes heavily for small deviations in high-scoring exams like Algo and Functional.
Hope its making sense!

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>Oh, that, Poos do physics lad. Also engineering. They are cheap, have a good work ethic, and operate at enough of a technical level to get the job done but are dumb enough not to question the bigger picture. The sheer volume of them also brings costs down.

They have terrible work ethics. More than half the poos cheat their way through university. More than half the poos in los angeles steal shit on the daily. Basically all computer scams are indian fahgots in goatland. They have god like beef tho.

Because they are cheap and the people in charge are fucking idiots. If they look at a place like India, basically a third world country with too many people, and see 2000 "tech graduates" looking for work visas... they will happily import them. They don't know or understand that they are from diploma-farms and have literally no fucking idea what they are doing an overwhelming majority of the time. They just see a group of people that are "qualified" and will work without complaint for below-average or even minimum wage.

if he was actually caught cheating, he would be expelled from the course.. so you are lying about the scenario

Clearly I've been lucky. I certainly believe you though. I just use the mathey ones.

Not if you're white and under threat of being called racist.

Welcome to reality.

>Coders in which respect... Those who are good in competitive programming or good in building business like applications. Well if you want to ask for business like applications, India produces good programmers, half of them are due to love for programming while rest half for lust of high packages but India produces them. When you tell most of the programmers in India that it will get you job, they will seek towards trying it but only a portion of them will try it if you tell them its fun. India being a heavily populated country has many programmers who simply do it because they love it but we forget to realize how many are there in respect to total population. Plus most of the Indian programmers are engineer graduate and are forced to learn what brings money rather than what they love(I know many people will be there who love doing what they love but i think even those people understand my point)

>Now come to competitive programming, I think Russia and China rules at it. Russian dominate the top listing in many competitions and specially when it comes to AMC-ICPC. Most of them start coding early(around 12-14) and always have a good advantage then other programmers who started to program in their colleges or later in school. Although many more countries produce class coders but in my opinion in competitive one is always with Russia

that does not happen at serious schools... are you telling me you went to a shit school?

I learned to code at 8.

> Now, If were talking about hackers, not developers, then I bet the list is pretty spot on. Google does some code breaking competitions and the results look similar. In my 20 years in the industry, I've never met a talented hacker. Something about losing your right to use a computer, and our governments ability to enforce it, in the US keeps most of us developers on the straight and narrow here.

He was dropped from the course, idk what happen to him after. The professor addressed it only to that extent. Many poos don’t get caught though and go on. It’s a 100% true story.

I'm telling you I know niggers when I see them.

You're mostly right--but schools let a lot of shit slide these days because administrative punishment is very protracted and heavily bureaucratic.

Poo cope, Indian are garbage. This is why you have no industry of your own. Everyone of those countries has an industry yet you don’t you shit up other countries. The only industry India has are phone scams and tech support

>India produces good programmers
What a load of bullshit, Indians are the entire reason why the 737 was recalled

cio.com/article/2406458/indian-programmers-vs--american-programmers--whose-code-is-best-.html

>According to Gild's data, Indian programmers appear to be better at math and logic than American programmers. The Indian developers who participated in math and logic assessments outscored their American counterparts by 11 percent.

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it does not matter
India rules the IT developer world

wasn't going to respond but (numbers)

No, it wasn't poos, it was a VERY bad decision by management NOT to listen to subordinates.

Trust me or don't--I'm certainly an aerospace villain.

lots of industries in india... you need to research more ...
IT developer
Pharma are two top industries

Many indian pharma directly sells to US vendors

Boeing sure learned that.

Well there’s your subhuman mindset at work, you don’t rule the IT world, a tiny percentage of you slave away at mid tier jobs for poverty tier pay. The vast majority of your “people” live worse than us niggers on welfare.

also hackerank
USA 28
india 31
lulz you guys are just as bad as us

how can you say that with a straight face ?

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>Street shitting by country
Nice try poo, we have some bad cities (looking at you San Francisco), but damn: our ghettos don't hold a fucking candle to you poos.

That doesn’t include H1b it includes citizens only. Additional that’s a tiny tiny percentage of poo citizens. The H1b has basically no rights and are at the mercy of the company that sponsored them and then there 1.4 billion of you living in shit on the other side of the world.

>C++
Needlessly verbose and complex. Just like us

no idea what it includes ...because the survey may not be limited only to citizens.
Still h1b pay is not so bad .. within a few years , less than 5-10 years, these levels can be reached.

Still a better deal than much of pooland little girl.

lol this massive C O P I N G.

Colombia is top 5 security? USA is not on any list? Ireland top 5 AI? What the fuck lol

>You are not a nigger.

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>Nigeria is on the list but the US isnt
US BTFO

Backward digit span is among the least g-loaded of all IQ subtests lol. The income thing is more convincing at least

American devs are working on real life projects, they’re not taking internet quizzes

Because encouraging the meme of Indian IT skills is important to fighting racism and white male patriarchy.

>hey get a STEM degree so i can bring in more indians
STEMfags BTFO

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IT developing skills you insect nigger
there are other programming skills where indians are not good at because there is no demand to be good at them.. a good developer makes as much money as any other top level expert in their engineer field