Coptic (meaning native/Ancient) Egyptian musician, 95% Egyptian according to Henry Louis Gates' show (albeit from southern Egypt), 2% European and only 3% black. en.wikipedia.org
Meanwhile, pol thinks that Jared and Ivanka are a biracial couple.
Are you trying to prove that race is a social construct? Or just trying to vindicate Hitler's stupid worldview because of muh cool edgy uniforms?
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my sides can't handle how ridiculous it is to say Egyptians aren't black
>Egyptians aren't black
There is a big difference between Egyptians from Lower and Upper Egypt, because the Med Sea cools the climate of lower Egypt. Upper Egypt is in desert and obviously white people aren't going to evolve in the fucking desert.
Lower (northern) Egyptians are like Palestinians, not remotely black, some even look Med/white. Upper Egyptians aren't quite black but genetically they're in between blacks and whites.
No there isn't. They're all afro-asiatics looking black as fuck. They aren't jungle blacks obviously but even some of those people had ancient Egyptian ancestors as seen in cultural practices that they still haven't let go of.
They were and still are black unless they mixed with white people or mixed with middle easterners who mixed with white people. There's no logical argument supporting that they were pale skinned back in the day, not until the Greeks at least. Too many heiroglyphs showing otherwise.
yeh we know modern day Egyptians are not the ones who built the pyramids or are behind ancient Egyptian culture. We already know the Pharoe's shared 70% DNA with modern European British White men.
Race is determined by climate. WHy would someone from Northern Egypt, along the Med Sea, be black-skinned when he comes from a moderate climate?
Upper Egypt is still generally not considered black. Nor was the man in OP. Though obviously they're going to be dark skinned people, giving their very hot climate.
>shared 70% DNA
A genetic study has been done on Ancient Egyptian mummies (from the far-north). Even these mummies pooled far, far, far, more closely with modern Arab populations than European.
Southern Egypt is going to be even more POC. It's absurd to claim Egypt as a whole was white.
en.wikipedia.org
"he study was able to measure the mitochondrial DNA of 90 individuals, and it showed that Ancient Egyptians had the greatest affinity for modern Middle Eastern (Arab, Levantine and Anatolian) populations"
>Race is determined by climate.
Yep, he's retarded. The Afro-asiatic race spans from India all the way to Spain. All throughout the ME and even south into Africa. They have black skin and afros, they are black.
I know you want to believe this is a white man but it's just not true.
He looks Nubian.
Lower egyptians are brown as fuck while the upper Egyptians are black and are nothing like Palestinians besides a small part of the population. Stop larping at being white. Most Egyptians I've seen are dark.
Lower Egyptians are black too, you just have to ignore the lighter majority in the city centers because those people are mutts or outright foreigners.
>A genetic study has been done on Ancient Egyptian mummies (from the far-north). Even these mummies pooled far, far, far, more closely with modern Arab populations than European.
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>Southern Egypt is going to be even more POC. It's absurd to claim Egypt as a whole was white.
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>en.wikipedia.org
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>"he study was able to measure the mitochondrial DNA of 90 individuals, and it showed that Ancient Egyptians had the greatest affinity for modern Middle Eastern (Arab, Levantine and Anatolian) populations"
I LOVE how you leave out the very next sentence.
The study was able to measure the mitochondrial DNA of 90 individuals, and it showed that Ancient Egyptians had the greatest affinity for modern Middle Eastern (Arab, Levantine and Anatolian) populations, and had significantly more affinity with south-eastern Europeans than with sub-Saharan Africans.
Watch this if you want the truth
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A Nubian princess
shiiiieeeet
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Rami doesn't undermine my point at all. He's 1/4 Greek and his Egyptian ancestry is from the far-north (which is cooled by the Med Sea).
> ITT nog L.A.R.Ping as an Egyptian
Why are you like this?
I thought you were Palestinian at first. Would it kill you Arabs to come up with more original flags? Literally all of them look the same and uses the same colors.
Watch this video that talks about the south and it's archeology
invidio.us
You won't because you only read things and watch things that push your we wuz narrative.
LOL I have literally never said they were black. Southern Egypt, it's debatable (I would say no). the majority of Egyptians from the north/delta region (or Med region), it's absurd, they're not black.
>I thought you were Palestinian at first.
In point of fact I am a Palestinian Christian with a Coptic Egyptian wife. She doesn't look black at all but her best friend (from southern Egypt, Luxor) kind of does to be honest. Though not with the ugly features, with fine facial features.
>with fine facial features
Like pic related
what kind of cognitive dissonance do you need to think these people aren't black
No one thinks they're white though.
>aryan built pyramids in china
This guy is worse than Pharaoh Tyrone.
Ramses II, and his dynasty were mediterranean whites with RED hair. Nobody gives a shit about flash in the pan nigger dynasties, the real power, the dynasties that people think of when people think of ancient Egypt were WHITE.
Look it up, fuckwits.
>Demographics have never ever changed for all of history
Leaf, rake, yadda yadda yadda
There is no such thing as a med type and lots of black Africans have red hair.
Yes they have, dramatically in fact. There are loads of pure Egyptians still though, it's a massive country.
You are an absolute submongoloid.
>no such thing as a med type
...You mean except for DNA matching people that come from the mediterranean region, you fucking dipshit?
>lots of black africans have red hair
LOL like what, 0.01%? Ramses II aka Ozymandias wasn't an "african" redhead, he was a white dude with red hair.
Also, black africans with red hair are ONLY caused by albinism, which would have been picked up in the analysis.
You are not very well read are you ?
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Genghis Kahns tribe means "The Grey Eyed men" in English or "the Dark-Blue Eyed men"
There are people who don't match others living around the med.
And he clearly wasn't white, you can tell just by looking at his facial structure which is explictely non-white.
That's not true at all you autist.
I just want to remind people that white means European caucasoid. All whites are caucasoid, not all caucasoids are white.
>i know the consensus of Jow Forums
Shove your assumptions and prepositions up your ass and go fuck yourself.
>not true
But it scientifically is, how about instead of being retarded on the internet you actually fucking look it up?
>thinks you can tell facial structure from a fucking mummy
Have you ever seen pictures of ancient romans? They had exactly those kind of angular features.
Putting a nigger next to a mummified head isn't an argument, OR proof. Again, consider actually looking up the study of Ramses II's DNA, it isn't up for debate, he was A RED HAIRED WHITE GUY.
You are one of the dumbest fucking people I have bumped into on Jow Forums, which is already the lowest IQ board. Whatever kind of mongrel you are, your DNA is garbage, do humanity a favour and kill yourself.
I know more than enough to know that person is autistic. He said the mummies were found nearby, is 2500km nearby? They also came from Europe and died in the desert.
Genghis Khan even existing is questionable, and that's thousands of years after those pyramids were built. Don't be a cum nigger like he is. He's either paid to spread disinfo or a complete fucking retard.
I tried watching another video he did and he was saying caucasians ruled Ethiopia too, in the ocntext of caucasians being white(when hundreds of millions of them aren't white at all). He's desperate for some history, a deplorable American we wuzzer with shit for brains.
Now I tried watching his video about the Aztecs. Let me guess they were white too. I like learning about this stuff too but I'm not going to baselessly spout a bunch of bullshit. Why would you do that?
No,,,
They were found in the damn tombs of the workers and they were WHITE
There are hundreds of millions of Africans who have the gene for red hair like this. A lot of people are born with it but grow out of it, even over here in Canada I've seen that. Melanesians and Abos are other examples of red hair on black people. Straight hair as well, but straight hair is less common.
>Have you ever seen pictures of ancient romans? They had exactly those kind of angular features.
Let's see it.
And this facial profile isn't even uncommon in the area. It's a classical Egyptian shape that you see in very dark people.
You're getting really fired up for someone who is completely wrong bro.
>Africans
African does not mean Negroid
They were found in the Tarim Basin, some 1500 miles away.
They're black and from Africa, call them whatever you want.
You know nothing of the history of the Cush or Etyiopia.
Try reading some Strabo or Herodotus or Pomponius Mela.
Ancient populations do not equal modern populations. people migrate and war and conquer and leave.
Read this
penelope.uchicago.edu
It's Diodorus Siculus.
>They were found in the Tarim Basin, some 1500 miles away.
OTHER whites were found there. White mummies were found IN the tomb of the workers of the 1st emperor that were white. FACT.
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Why do you want me to read this?
because populations move.. and that is an ancient Roman telling you who lived in the place of the people photos you are posting now. He tells you about their culture and how they looked. IE: NOT black. They were a different people back then.
>Ivanka
>Not Jewish
If you have been on Jow Forums for longer than a year yet don't look at young Ivanka funny, I don't want to have any sort of discussion with you.
You probably think Elsa Jean is white.
>Or just trying to vindicate Hitler's stupid worldview because of muh cool edgy uniforms?
Ding Ding Ding. You have figured Jow Forums out. Jow Forums doesn't want anything in particular so much as they just want people to admit Hitler was right. Everything else is secondary
“Now the evidence shows that the cultural exchange or influence from the western world begins as early as the time of the First Emperor (of China),” said Dr. Duan. In fact the emperor’s “burial structure is probably inferenced from west.”
The First Emperor’s Mausoleum uses a step up structure that “allows the soul to escalate to the top.” Duan pointed out that the Mausoleum at Halicarnassus in Turkey is quite similar, gradually rising up in levels and was built only 100 years before the First Emperor’s life.
“The structure of this tomb mound is very similar to what we find inside the First Emperor’s tomb mound,” said Duan. Also, “on top of this structure (at Halicarnassus) there’s a chariot driven by four horses, we all know that (at) the First Emperor’s tomb complex there also is a chariot with four horses,” he said.
A few years ago Dr. Duan’s team unearthed 120 skeletons of workers who were buried near the Mausoleum. Among the finds were three skulls that were definitely not Chinese. “There’s three skulls that are different from the rest of them which represents the Mongolian type of people,” he said through a translator. The “nose protrude (is) very extensive.”
The first time DNA tests were performed they indicated that the individuals were from “west Eurasia probably like a white people”
>the emperor’s “burial structure is probably inferenced from west.
the emperor’s “burial structure is probably inferenced from (the) west.
the emperor’s “burial structure is probably inferenced from (the) west.
the emperor’s “burial structure is probably inferenced from (the) west.
the emperor’s “burial structure is probably inferenced from (the) west.
You know in the great Pyramid that was built over the First Emperor's tomb in China..
and low and behold..
White workers...
"The first time DNA tests were performed they indicated that the individuals were from “west Eurasia probably like a white people”"
They also found a few thousand chinese and african looking soldier statues. The genetics are, quote, "probably" "like" white people says the pozzed article. Literally we wuzzing.
It would be interesting if true but this isn't anything conclusive.
I'll check it out, and I know people migrate(look at modern Egypt). However you're still wrong about whatever you're trying to imply because genetics, mummies, and artwork shows us exactly what they looked like. As I've shown in this thread.
For now though,
>The majority of them, and especially those who dwell along the river, are black in colour and have flat noses and woolly hair.
What did he mean by this?
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you're probably frustrated they made statues of Blacky Chan and not the white boy kang.
This is what Egyptians look like
>They also found a few thousand chinese and african looking soldier statues. The genetics are, quote, "probably" "like" white people says the pozzed article. Literally we wuzzing.
Dude it a Chinese man speaking English. it's just how he speaks. they were white. Their skulls are white.
So we know there were White men in China since the earliest times.
All those stories of Chinese men who were tall with blue eyes and Blonde hair were always just pushed aside. Turns out, maybe they were true. I'm not saying the Chinese were white, but there was interaction from the earliest times.
>However you're still wrong about whatever you're trying to imply because genetics, mummies, and artwork shows us exactly what they looked like. As I've shown in this thread.
Ok first off what WHO EXACTLY looked like ? The slaves ?
Show me Black mummies that are aristocratic. Not someones favorite slave.
Genetics.. Show me the genetics. They all point to being closer to Europeans by FAR
Artwork showed you what ? Slaves ? so...
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It's the lead Archaeologist who is 100% Chinese. He was given the task by the 100% Chinese government to take more than 300 other 100% Chinese archaeologists to dig the 1st Emperor of China's tomb.
Do you understand what political pressure that there must be not to say PROBABLY. Use your head.
In the sentence before he says and I quote
"Now the evidence shows that the cultural exchange or influence from the western world begins as early as the time of the First Emperor (of China),” said Dr. Duan."
"In fact the emperor’s “burial structure is probably inferenced from west."
Wow
unironically this
you can’t put an ancient dried corpse next to a living person and say that because they look alike >muh they’re niggers
when you dry a corpse the skin shrivels and it will make facial and skeletal features much more pronounced. I’m eurasian and i when i feel my skull under my skin, guess what?! i can feel my cheek bones you fucking imbecile. i wasn’t aware only african people had cheekbones
They also look like OPs pic and Their skulls might be white. But how much of India, the ME, and Africa have similar skulls? The words probably mean they don't know who they are and there's literally no reason to believe you do either. We do have thousands of statues with big ass noses and black skin though lol.
The Tarim mummies which that autist was using as proof of them being white have NOTHING to do with the pyramids. And again the Scythian and Tartarian memes are questionable no matter how you spin it.
I know ancient Chinese have sketchy history but we wuzzing isn't the way to go about this. Analyze the evidence and don't jump to conclusions, you're acting like a retard going by a pozzed "probably". That isn't science, it's not even common sense.
The genetics paint them as African, and all of the mummies are black as far as I can tell. The artwork shows Egyptians, none of which weren't black people.
Yes you can. Ramses' mummy is godly in that you can see exactly what he looked like. And I'm still waiting on the Greek statue that looks like him. Something tells me i'll be waiting forever
>pol
>hurr my strawman wins
you are a joke, sand nigger
Skin color doesn't determine race, skull morphology does.
Literally just googled a random picture of "modern egyptians".
>Jow Forums is one person
Fuck off back to plebbit or lurk moar fag
>southern egyptian
>""egyptian""
He's a Nubian and black.
There are 100 million people living in Egypt.
en.wikipedia.org
The guy is very famous and one of the most Egyptian people you'll find.
>Their skulls might be white. But how much of India, the ME, and Africa have similar skulls? The words probably mean they don't know who they are and there's literally no reason to believe you do either. We do have thousands of statues with big ass noses and black skin though lol.
Yeah the DNA as well.. Keep coping
>The Tarim mummies which that autist was using as proof of them being white have NOTHING to do with the pyramids
He is just showing how they would have looked. No one is claiming that the Chinese were white.
>The genetics paint them as African, and all of the mummies are black as far as I can tell.
That is just 100% a lie by any measurement.
Show me the Pharoahs who were painted as black. Not tanned arabs but BLACK
This is the average Egyptian face allegedly
So what can you tell me about the DNA? Who do they belong to?
He is we wuzzing like a sperglord, trying to attach great pride to literal nobodies who died in the desert.
Rape babies do indeed exist. Those light colored people are still getting genocided even today. There's a thread up about it
Possibly nubian minority living in egypt.
These things lose a lot of credability when dealing with mutts because most of the ME men for instance don't have faces that look like that. Like at all. The faces that aren't pure white or pure black don't make any sense.
Nonsense
A few years ago Dr. Duan’s team unearthed 120 skeletons of workers who were buried near the Mausoleum. Among the finds were three skulls that were definitely not Chinese. “There’s three skulls that are different from the rest of them which represents the Mongolian type of people,” he said through a translator. The “nose protrude (is) very extensive.”
The first time DNA tests were performed they indicated that the individuals were from “west Eurasia probably like a white people” - Dr. Duan (Head Archelogist for the Peoples Republic dig at the 1st Chinese Emperors tomb)
Ancient Egypt extended south, the Egyptians came from the south in fact and went past modern day Israel. And the depictions of themselves look similar to the men I posted. The depictions do not look like the men you posted though, those look identical to light skinned arabs in medeival art.
So the probably again. If there are no specifics your research is worthless. I know ancient Chinese looked different but there's no evidence of them looking white. None at all.
I like all these alternative histories and I'm open minded, but what you're doing isn't learning or teaching. You're spreading disinfo which confuses people. Tartaria is my jam but there's no indication the ancestors of those fantasy whiteys wearing turbans have anything to do with pyramids.
>So the probably again. If there are no specifics your research is worthless. I know ancient Chinese looked different but there's no evidence of them looking white. None at all.
>I like all these alternative histories and I'm open minded, but what you're doing isn't learning or teaching. You're spreading disinfo which confuses people. Tartaria is my jam but there's no indication the ancestors of those fantasy whiteys wearing turbans have anything to do with pyramids.
meant for you
Jesus dude you are something else.
the probably is because he is Chinese. He is leaving himself a way out.
DNA is pretty clear cut.
He'd be classed as white in America.
Then where are the specifics? The fact there apparently wasn't an extensive report should be a red flag to you. Chinese scientists speak decent English, no need to get racist against the Chinese bro.
he unironically is lmao
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this guy is STILL in court after like 20 years
It's not racist. He lives in a Communist country. He probably coaches his words to leave himself a way out of the wrath of the Party. When I say it's because he's Chinese it's not about his race, it's about having to watch you ass in any communist country. You can't go against the party line totally especially about things like heritage and history. If the DNA was Chinese why would he say it's probably like a white person.
I'm not saying it's Chinese, I'm just saying we don't know what it is. "Probably" invalidates anything about it, it's a statement implying they weren't even tested.
You're wrong.
They keep finding it as well..
"Scientists have gathered a variety of provocative clues: Terra-cotta acrobats and bronze figures of ducks, swans, and cranes uncovered at the royal tomb complex may show evidence of Greek influence. And European DNA has been recovered from skeletons at the site in northwestern China"
Show the DNA results then - I don't mind being wrong. You can't though, can you? It's apparently sensationalism with no science behind the claims so why do you take it seriously?
No he isn't. He's not sub-saharan african. He's 95% Egyptian.
The skin color is very different between southern and northern Egypt because northern Egypt is cooled dramatically by med sea.
It's National Geographic. They are probably lying..
I looked into it and it looks like you were the one who was lying.
>The first time DNA tests were performed they indicated that the individuals were from “west Eurasia probably like a white people,” however the second DNA test showed they were more similar to Mongolian.
>however the second DNA test showed they were more similar to Mongolian.
>however the second DNA test showed they were more similar to Mongolian.
>however the second DNA test showed they were more similar to Mongolian.
You're a faggot.
BUT Upper Egypt is not Nubia. Nubia is sub-saharan African, Upper Egypt is southern north Africa. The people there are darker skinned because the desert climate is like Saudi Arabia, but they are not sub-saharan Africans.
Can we have a civil conversation about this? I agree that whites are full of shit about Egypt. But how is what you're saying any more sensible? How could people from norhtern Egypt possibly have been black when their climate is moderate? Black
Upper Egypt ,if you want to call them black, OK. I disagree (because they aren't genetically related to West Africans, although they have some relation to East Africans), but it's not crazy. A lot could pass as black in the US.
But northern Egypt (the majority), no way are black. Their climate is a lot closer to Sicily than Africa.
I guess National geographic is lying as well
news.nationalgeographic.com
>however the second DNA test showed they were more similar to Mongolian.
Mongolains like these ?
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Climate doesn't change appearances, or else the whites living in the Americas would be darker after 500 years. You can get a nice tan for sure, look at Australians for instance, but that's about it apparently.
I appreciate you asking for a civil conversation, so I'd like to ask you to refute this image I've made. No one has -ever- refuted it and to me it's blatantly inarguable. This one hereSame skin color, same length and style of hair, same amount of butter in the hair giving it the white sheen.
There are a ton of different races of black in Africa, I'm not saying Jamaicans were pharaohs, but they were obviously black. All the Greeks said so too.
Modern day Egyptians are lighter skin than this but it's not because of the climate it's because of the genes. People from the melting pot middle east invaded millenia ago. It's not a homogenous nation anymore.
It wouldn't be the first time. I assume they're ignoring the second genetics test because there's no breakdown, why?
What do rape babies have to do with anything?
Here is some more proff
Look at this page
en.wikipedia.org
That is were the mummies where found. It borders directly Shaanxi were the emperor's tomb is.
So there were obviously white people around. They have even found White mumies as far east as Xiaohe
en.wikipedia.org
That's in hunan provence
>What do rape babies have to do with anything?
Rape babies after what 50-100 generations still keeping their blond hair.. yeah ok
Who are the Mongolains being raped by ?
>Hurrr I made an assumption
What an asshole.
welcome to we wuz kangz (the thread)
You aren't paying attention user. There's no evidence they were white, and genetics studies has now said that they are in fact mongolian.
That's how genetics work. It's random but genes like that can stay in the pool and even become dominant, like entire black families who have red or blonde hair. Or whites with black hair and green eyes which is rare but common in some areas.
At this point it doesn't matter who was doing the raping, you're just grasping at straws trying to larp as a Chinese pharaoh.
I don't think Whites were Chinese. I just think White traveled around teaching people.
Like the Incas saying that Red Haired Blue eyed people came and taught them.
>That's how genetics work. It's random but genes like that can stay in the pool and even become dominant, like entire black families who have red or blonde hair. Or whites with black hair and green eyes which is rare but common in some areas.
and ok great..
EXACTLY who with Blond Hair and Blue eyes went and raped the Mongolians ?
You accuse others of conjecture and you do it post after post.
Of course you'll think that, you listen to delusional faggots like Rob who clearly likes white men a little too much. There's no evidence though. Even the South American whites who did land there -- there's ZERO evidence they taught anyone anything. Quite the contrary in fact, they're depicted getting absolutely shat on and their corpses are tied up all over the place.
>At this point it doesn't matter who was doing the raping, you're just grasping at straws trying to larp as a Chinese pharaoh.
Who knows though. The blonde girl is albino and all races have people with red hair, it's not a European trait. It could be there were whites there that mixed with asians, or it could be the opopsite, or they could have been sex slaves for asians, or maybe they always looked like that.