¿Who was in the wrong here?
¿Who was in the wrong here?
You, for giving a fuck about Star Wars post-Disney sale.
Don:'t forget to sage, boys.
i havent watched the disney movies yet except part of ep7
i like to think disney never happened
Rebels, Empire was prepping for the inevitable war from outside the system, by the time the YV hit, the galaxy was tremendously underprepared. Also
>Wah we cant use darkness, thats mean, even though we aim to bring balance to the Force!
Jedi are mislead monks at best and genocidal outcasts at worst.
based
For george lucas, the "force" was a kind of metaphor for religion but in actuality, rebels are just a bunch of terrorist commies
Not commies, just your normal band of people who will inevitably be ran over due to progress and necessity. Like the Militia from Titanfall, by any utilitarian or greater good account, their happiness/livelihoods are outweighed by the core systems demand, since they have waaaaaaay more people, and any loves lost on the Fronteir will be replaced eventually. IMC did nothing wrong.
the emperor
and then disney.
stormtroopers are clones so consider that before backing "the empire".
Rebels. Alderaan deserved it. Hail the Emperor.
THE TRADE FEDERATION WAS THE GOOD GUYS
>a decentralized alliance of member planets allowed to govern their own planets as they wished
>they only wished to get out from under the trade oppression and taxation and control of the tyrannical core world planets
but palpatine came along and
>put dooku and grevious in charge and encouraged war crimes to be committed that the trade federation governments were not told about in order to turn the core worlds against the federation rather then negotiate for peace
>rigged the b1 battle droids with human emotions like fear, humour, friendliness, and cowardice to lower their combat efficiency. making the b1's the most human like droids in star wars
palpatine used the trade federation and the clone army as pawns in his plan to obtain power and the jedi were so fucking stupid and blind to conspiracy theories that they played right into it.
>Terrorists of PeaceY
Either the guy who made that image or the one who okay'd it. Both in and out of universe.
also the b1s had underpowered servos and a crippled targeting system also thanks to palpatines meddling and sabotage
the b1 ungimped would have slaughtered the clone army
>rigged the b1 battle droids with human emotions like fear, humour, friendliness, and cowardice to lower their combat efficiency. making the b1's the most human like droids in star wars
Is this canon, Disney!Wars or fan speculation?
not canon but legends
its in the expanded universe but not official canon and not fan theory or disney
also its the only way those movies could make any fucking sense at all.
fucking jews man
Protip: if there are only two sides, both are always wrong.
Fuck you, EU is canon.
In all seriousness, though, that really does help things make a lot more sense, particularly now that I think about it, there was that huge change in how B1s acted between Menace and Attack.
How so? They created more efficient robots later that were literally jedi killers.
I.e. count duku and his robot guards.
after the clone wars a lot of b1 battle droids were refitted to do farming work
and the star wars rebels and clone wars cartoons showed the b1s over time growing personalities and they were constantly bantering and cracking jokes. they were becoming even more human-like over time.
during menace the b1s were still controlled from a central command ship. after their lose at the battle of naboo they realized b1s had to be made more independent so they could function on their own.
Its true, the Jedi order is a quasi religious cult that suppresses the use of the force to maintain their political power.
The with are basically libertarians who believe individual's should be free to pursue their own goals and combat their struggles by any means necessary.
Nietzsche would have been a Sith
those are the b2 commando droids and the ig-100 magna guard droids which were much more capable then b1s but also far more expensive and less mass produced
Based and third positionpilled
sorry i meant the bx droids not the b2
b2 were the big ones, just more armor and weapons but not much more capable then b1s, the bx series were the ones that could do parkour and crazy gymnastics and shit
the b1s were intended by the trade federation to be unfeeling and efficient machines. but palpatines meddling turned them into bumbling but amusing and well meaning droids that had human like emotions. the trade federation wanted to save organic lives by using unthinking machines. it wasnt their intention to create robots that could feel fear.
those poor b1 battle bros were the real victims. the few that managed to break the control of the federation usually by accident or battle damage severing the obedience chips would end up trying to save clone trooper lives or escape the battlefield to work on farms and shit just helping out. they didnt even want war but were forced into it through cyber slavery.
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most droids are fine to enslave, they dont desire freedom or feel emotion. the b1s were different, they were made to feel and they should have been set free.
and now a complication of b1s goofing off and getting killed
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>Be Sheev
>Democratically elected to Supreme Chancellor
>Loved and praised for your pre-chancellor work on Clone project
>Single handedly will the greatest force for peace into existence
>Clone army is genetically immune to corruption, coup d'etat, war crimes, use excessive force, rape and torture
>Most disciplined and fittest fighting force of all time
>Use it to combat the (((Trade Federation)))
>Repel the efforts of the unlawful and unrecognized Confederation of Independant Systems
>Reclaim dozens of worlds and systems for the Republic
>Face internal rebellion
>Fight back against an assassination attempt by the Jedi, a group of religious fanatics above the law
>(((Master Yoda))) schemes among the Jedi to depose you
>Osama-bin-Windu launched unprovoked strike against you
>After repeling the Jihadi Order, you are forced to use special forces to specifically target these fanatics
>Doesn't use a single drone strike that kills civilians
>Only uses Clone precision to eliminate a genuine insurrectionary force within the government
>0 civilian casualties
>Near 100% combatant kill rate
>Declare a stable and peaceful Galactic Empire
>Begin conversion effort so regular humans can become Stormtroopers, creating jobs
>Begin the Death Star, the greatest public works project ever, better than the autobahn
>Only use on a planet that is directly aiding a rebellious faction lead by Hamza bin Kenobi
>Rebels destroy your Death Star without provocation killing countless engineers, service workers and administrators
>Claim it is retaliation for Alderaan, yet they were partisan saboteurs, and the crew of the Death Star were legitmate government employees
>Persist in your mission to eliminate the most treacherous religious zealots in the Galaxy who try to depose democratically elected leaders to impose a puppet ruler and a patsy for islamofascism
palpatine manipulated the trade federation and put those space jew neimoidian species into power in the first place. the confederation was lawful and recognized by the independent laws of their own home planets which didnt want to succumb to the rule of the core worlds. it was basically brexit.
meanwhile the clone army was unethical. they were human beings with shortened lifespans due to the quick grow cloning process that only lived a few years and were treated as pawns. far less ethical then the confederacys intended army of what was supposed to be unfeeling machines.
if the clone army didnt exist and palpatine hadnt been meddling. the trade federation would have had hardly any power in the confederacy. the confederacy already had a lot of sympathy from core world civilians. the plan was to invade and then negotiate for better deals and independence, the goal was never to conquer the core worlds.
palpatine was the ultimate jew and you fell for his propaganda hard as many core world normies did
also his clones only won because he gimped the b1 battle droid programming
he set the whole thing up and played both sides then threw them away when he was done using them.
Nope, uless yoy mean disneys First Order, it was volunteers only after the clone wars, the 501st was the last group of clones used by the Empire, and even then they had been whittled down due to aging and attrition.
So are Spanish poo rape babies or is it Portuguese?
the clones reached adulthood in 9 years
it was basically an army of child slaves in adult bodies
Rogue one was good
this is such a boring topic and misinformation gets repeated everytime, i dont want to have to explain it every time
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Literally Pilpul: The Post
The Pilpul Strikes Back
this so much this
The clone troopers killed the Jedi.
Literally shot them in the back like punk bitches.
truth, it was legitmately good, not the best by far, but better than the Sequels and Prequels.
later generations of clones reached adulthood in only 1 to 2 years. they didnt have the maturity to be responsible for their own actions frankly, they were just so young. and they aged quickly and died young. tragic really
They were fully grown adults upon their entry into the Clone Army, they didn't have the mental capacity of children.
true, but they had the life experience of children. most of them only a few years old at most. its kinda fucked up.
the republic was the bad guys
for using a clone army of nine year olds to enforce taxation without representation on the confederacy. they only thought they were the good guys because palpatine ordered dooku to put grevious in charge knowing grevious would commit war crimes that could be used in anti confederacy proopaganda. the confederacy was kept from knowing what was going on and from the confederacy's perspective they lost a war they should have won against an unjest enemy that sought to dominate and control their independent governments through unfair trade deals. the jedi were the useful idiots that enabled the whole thing because they wanted to play hero but were too naive to realize they were being used.
the confederacy only wanted to force the core worlds to the negotiating table to make better trade deals and stop taxing them unfairly. and they would have won and the galaxy would have been at peace. most core world civilians actually had sympathy for the confederacy and would have supported better trade deals. without palpatines clone army it would have been a short war leading into peace talks and greater independence for the outer systems.
the prequel movies had hidden depth and conspiracies going on beneath the surface.
Revan did nothing wrong.
The events at Malachor V were justified and the (((Sith-Imperium))) played the Mandalorians like the worst Jews.
>Not showing rebels gunning down loyalists
Mediocre propaganda.
So the Nazis only half circumsize their babies?
The deathstar wasnt even in the correct star system at the time the Alderuse allegedly happened
i thought it looked fake
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also we are supposed to believe 60 billion people died on alderman, a planet that only had a fraction of that population.
that planet had an unstable core and everyone knew it. frakking for khyber crystals is probably what did them in. and rebel propagandists used the death star as cover for their own illegal mining operations
>Disney now turning their rapey gaze to The Old Republic
People who are objective know the rebels were in the right.
People who just want to be edgy contrarians pretend the Empire is in the right.
that MMORPG already raped the Old Republic to death. If Disney ruins it further, it's just necrophilia.
I choose to forget that TOR existed.
me too. KOTOR2 was really fucking awesome. I wish Obsidian would create a sequel, so we can really ignore TOR.
Cant wait for them to ruin 40k with strong, gay ,independent female spacemarines
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Stop this shit, you retards. Completely fucking unnecessary.
Oh and the rebels are terrorists and do use human shields. Alderaan is a good example, where they hid weapons and operatives.
>pic related
rebels/new republic ultimately got 10's of billions of people killed by dragging out an absurd war against maniacs, knowing the entire time that the empire remnants had super weapons and knowing they were going to use them, but doing NOTHING
instead of actually cleansing the galaxy of this threat, they just laid back and waited for the new empire to mass murder their citizens
¿You mad?
it can be pretty useful for long questions, so you know its a question since the start
and also its good to be consistent
why are brackets in both sides of a phrase, but question and exclamation only at the end side?
Pure victimhood bullshit.