How would universal basic income work?

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do landlords raise their prices everytime there is a tax cut?

they dont???

huh....something about redistributing wealth must be different from literally printing money

the same way Alaska pays their residents UBI. Also space mining. We catch that 20 quadrillion dollar metal asteroid and we will become the world's biggest metal exporting country.

Every American will be a millionaire by default.

usatoday.com/story/tech/nation-now/2017/01/18/nasa-planning-mission-asteroid-worth-10000-quadrillion/96709250/

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Signed, economic illiterate, didn't advance past basic algebra in high school. *shrugs* another dummy...

it wouldn't, really that simple.

Seeing a lot of support for the idea, not much to back it up though.

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Is that Tim Allen?

Yangs UBI is explicitly about delaying the seemingly inevitable mass revolt of the white working class just long enough to disarm them.

>I'll pay for it.

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Yeah, and a pack of gum would now cost $1000 because the grocery store would know we could pay for it! Drat! My whole $1000, gone! Just because I wanted gum! Fucking Andrew Yang!! Oh, fuck! Nnnnoooooo! God DAMNIT!

WHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY???

Doesn't seem to work for Alaska that well.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Permanent_Fund#Impact

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So literally nothing would increase in price? I just don't see it happening that way.

You can watch the man explain it himself here. You don't even have to read all these words without any pictures. m.youtube.com/watch?v=cTsEzmFamZ8
But who am I kidding? I know you're either dumb or a kike so you'll just spread FUD about the video (>hurr Joe Rogaine, >OY VEY VIRUS WILL HACK URE COMPUTER DO NOT CLICK GOY!) and come here to post the same retarded boomer kike topic tomorrow. I just wish I could clip a gps tracking device on your ear like the fat cow that you are and see what you post next.

Is it either price increases in $1000 increments or none at all? Are those the only two possible outcomes in our economy as far as you know? I'm really hoping you're a jew at this point and not one of those white mega retards that drives a big pickup truck he can't really afford and keeps merging lanes without looking.

whites pay for everything

No, I don't think a pack of gum goes up by $1000, but I imagine there would be some inflation.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

a.) rent control
b.) Life doesn't work like that, retard. I bet you think an increased minimum wage would also jack up rent prices.

So why do you think rent would go up $1000 a month? Was that a real argument? I hope not?

Imagine getting this mad over something someone said on the internet. You need to get laid.

Ezpz when money becomes shit just give everyone 10 million each month.
then 100 million
1000 million
10000 million, and so on :)

no thats not what it was before

Welp, as I suspected no one here actually has any real answers. Just name calling and deflections. Pack it up Yang Gang. You're finished.

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Pretty sure Yang has literally said this.

Ok, can I fuck your butt?

literally this. stop being a class cuck and just vote for the gibs.

That's not how markets work. You know there's laws against that right? You can't just suddenly raise home values, especially when noone else around you is. They have to reach an equilibrium.

You all just mad some chink thought of a better idea than huur duur blame the Jews meanwhile you let pedophile mods control everything you do

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To give you a serious response
1. Its redistributing money from higher taxes on the rich instead of increasing inflation by printing currency.
2. The market would correct any extreme changes in rent or commodity prices. I.e. the landlord charging an extra $1000 would get out competed by the one charging an extra $900, the one charging an extra $900 would get out competed by the landlord charing $800 extra. Etc, etc until there is market equilibrium.

Humanity Party has the solution.

Thanks for a real response. So far the other responses amounted to REEEING that I dissed their home boy.

that would be ridiculously unfair im pretty sure that isnt the case there was something on it but i cant find it

there are people who live on ssi with free rent heating water and ac ... ill try to find the thing

Just relax bruh, I'm just rocking the boat I bit to get these ideas talked about. I like Yang btw.

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>Yangs UBI is explicitly about delaying the seemingly inevitable mass revolt of the white working class just long enough to disarm them.

Is that why shills here are promoting him?

no, both are theft and UBI isnt redistributing wealth

1) America becomes socialist
2) All white people leave
pretty simple, actually

Drumpftards in this thread passing up an easy 1k a month

Once everybody has 1,000 per month, no one will

>How would universal basic income work?
I'd implement it so that if you don't have a job you don't pay taxes on it and if you have opportunity to work you'll always earn more by working than not working
>all their money will go to drugs!
make sure weed is available for about its production costs of like cents a weeks worth of the stuff and not 10 000% artificially inflated cost and its a complete non issue

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>Vote for gibs
Nigger detected

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>He doesn't know what hyperdeflation is
Learn from Spain nigger

221571012
This may be the stupidest post I have ever seen on this site.

>muh monopoly
bitch we're set to build infrastructure to allow growth of Sol's total economy to trillion fold of the current

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google.com/amp/s/heavy.com/news/2019/06/milton-friedman-on-ubi/amp/
weforum.org/agenda/2017/03/can-universal-basic-income-actually-work

He's done the MATH

>Why won't Yang just give everybody a million dollars per month?

because 1000 is at the poverty line

because he wants to make you beg for goodboy points in his social credit scheme

too afraid to challenge the government on anything because you need them points

It's a nice round number. Is it really better than $999 or $1001 per month?

according to yang himself, itd be a catchall replacement to entitlement programs of which people can CHOOSE to join into reducing the number of entitlement programs that exists and the bureaucracy attached to it.

Also america HAS the money to pay for this, we just choose not to. Because we dont measure ourselves by how the unfortunate are doing but by how successful people become either through legitimate or illegitimate means, leading to a morally bankrupt society. The amount of money we spend just in bureaucratic/administrative costs to uphold the system of insurance/welfare/other social programs is so detrimental to our economy and government and yet we dont do anything to combat this horribly inefficient system.

The government cant do anything right besides provide people necessities at face value, anything else where they establish any authoritative control is just a failure in all aspects.

>Landlords will know they can just charge an extra $1000 per month
i can tell you live at home

>the other responses amounted to REEEING that I dissed their home boy.
Because we Yang Gangers are just so sick of dumb ignorant boomers who believe everything Jews tell them, constantly using the same debunked arguments over and over again.
>muh inflation
>muh rent/price increases
>muh national debt
Yang Gang has soundly refuted all three of these objections, yet every thread some new clueless cuckservative wanders in and raises them. It's all so tiresome.

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>Yangs UBI is explicitly about delaying the seemingly inevitable mass revolt of the white working class
the working class is incredibly diverse but besides that it is very crazy that automation is essentially going to wipe out

>1) America becomes socialist
america is already socialist, its been socialist since at least the 1900s

Enjoy your goodboy social points when he gets elected.

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it's called a public dividend, corporations pay a share of profits made from their use of the commons to the citizenry like they do in Alaska

>it is very crazy that automation is essentially going to wipe out

if it is paid for by taxes then yes, it actually is.

>muh chicom/social credit
Forgot to list this argument, but I've refuted it before many times:
We ALREADY have a social credit system in America. What would your employer do if they found out you were a racist? What would your family do? You're ALREADY under the control of thought police.
>but muh boss/family is just as racist as me, so I'm fine!
Okay congratulations, you're in a very small minority. Most people, myself included, cannot voice our beliefs because we would lose our jobs or even be disowned by our families.

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This Argument is from a Right-Winger:

>Yang:

GUN CONTROL
>have to register every firearm
>can not buy a semi-automatic rifle unless you've been licensed to own a pistol for 1 YEAR
>ban suppressors
>Ban high-capacity mags
>Require submission of fingerprints & DNA to FBI
>Anyone with a history of violence, domestic abuse, or violent mental illness would be restricted from gun license
>wants "smart guns" locked to fingerprint (guaranteed to make gun less reliable)
>implement a federal buyback program (for all the guns he will BAN)
Cuck Nuke Authority
>The power to launch a nuclear attack shouldn't rest with a single individual (wants VP & Chief of Staff to have say too. wasting time in a 6 minute response window)
POLICE "Fake News" & "Hate Speech"
>Introduce penalties for speech
FEDERAL JOURNALISM FUND
>Journalist bailout. Taxpayers forced to prop up dying newspapers and media with $1 billion in initial FCC funding
DIGITAL SOCIAL CREDITS modeled after Chinas system
>a REAL-LIFE Reddit-style karma/social rank that follows you all the way to the grave
PRO LGBTQ
>Sexual orientation & gender identity should be protected classes under the law, SAY MY PRONOUN OR JAIL!
OPEN BORDERS
>PATHWAY TO CITIZENSHIP for illegals. Anti wall.
DREAM ACT
>Fast-track Obama's DREAM Act and grant citizenship to millions of illegals
MUH WAGE GAP
>this faggot actually believes the wage gap exists "fight for equal pay"
UBI (universal basic income)
>UBI of $1k/mo will be wiped out by INFLATION. NEETS will barely afford to live & turn to crime to survive. You'll be unemployed & too poor to do ANYTHING but exist
PRO ABORTION
>Liberal judges to Expand right to kill children. Mandated free birth control (more gibs)
MORE GIBS for single parents
>further incentive the break down the of the nuclear family

And Yang Gangers want to chime in on this laundry list of fuckery?

Refutation from a National Socialist
>gun control
Good. Maybe if Yang cracks down all you useless boomers will actually stand up and use your weapons for their intended purpose and end this ZOG tyranny.
>nukes
Cold War is over. Any obstacles to nuclear armageddon are a good thing. The only nation we should even consider nuking is Israel.
>hate speech
Trump: "we must end antisemitism"
>journo fund
Sucks but $1 billion is nothing. Not a big deal.
>social credit
See:>pro-gay
So is Trump
>DACA/amnesty/open borders/wall
lol, let me guess. Just wait for Trump's second term?
>UBI=inflation
Already refuted ITT. No new currency being printed = no inflation. Competition checks prices.
>abortion
Ghoulish, granted, but demographics are a much bigger concern. Frankly abortion is ALREADY legal almost everywhere anyway.

Can't wait till the next Yang thread for these shitty boomer arguments to be refuted again. This is literally like that Hitler quote about arguing with jews.
The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.
Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck. I didn't know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying. Gradually I began to hate them.

>GUN CONTROL
>>have to register every firearm
>>can not buy a semi-automatic rifle unless you've been licensed to own a pistol for 1 YEAR
>>ban suppressors
>>Ban high-capacity mags
>>Require submission of fingerprints & DNA to FBI
>>Anyone with a history of violence, domestic abuse, or violent mental illness would be restricted from gun license
>>wants "smart guns" locked to fingerprint (guaranteed to make gun less reliable)
>>implement a federal buyback program (for all the guns he will BAN)
>POLICE "Fake News" & "Hate Speech"
>>Journalist bailout. Taxpayers forced to prop up dying newspapers and media with $1 billion in initial FCC funding
>OPEN BORDERS
ok i agree with you these are all bad ideas, hopefully in the future he'll reconsider or at least lighten up on these stances.

>>The power to launch a nuclear attack shouldn't rest with a single individual (wants VP & Chief of Staff to have say too. wasting time in a 6 minute response window)
this is not at all a bad proposal, no country should be nuked at the president's will.
>DIGITAL SOCIAL CREDITS modeled after Chinas system
NOT TRUE AT ALL, this is just an account made to incentivize people to spend more time improving their community.
>PRO LGBTQ
>>Sexual orientation & gender identity should be protected classes under the law, SAY MY PRONOUN OR JAIL!
no person, regardless of their race religion creed, sex, sexual orientation, etc should be discriminated against just for existing. It is not simply about pronouns.
>DREAM ACT
or keep them in cages in New mexico
>MUH WAGE GAP
hes doing this to appease his base, and if not all hes done to address this is promote entrepeneurship among women and the 1k a month deal which in fact makes them more economically free.
>UBI (universal basic income)
refer to >PRO ABORTION
roe v wade, supreme court decision. Nothing can change that, at least if its legal then it can be done safely. If the mother of a child wants them dead, they'll find a way.

>How would universal basic income work?
we take the money from boomer gibs and redistribute it to everyone ezpz

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>Already refuted ITT. No new currency being printed = no inflation.
He's not going to get congress to end all other gibs and funnel it into UBI.
Not in a million years.
He's going to have to print that money to find it.

You don't even know how inflation works.

We ALREADY have a 2 trillion dollar deficit for 2020. UBI - VAT is coincidentally also 2 trillion. So UBI will essentially double our deficit. Now tell me, why should I be concerned about our deficit doubling? Trump already doubled the deficit from Obama's last year and I haven't noticed any inflation. Not to the point that my losses from inflation would more than my gains from UBI.

>So UBI will essentially double our deficit.
LOL. No it won't. The math has already been done and deficits and debt is a literal spook anyways.

>So UBI will essentially double our deficit
the money is not coming out of nowhere clearly with the downsizing of admin costs + taxes on large corporations + restructuring of how we spend current taxes + The money and productivity gains from automated jobs, we have the ability to do this we just choose not to.

>give unearned fiat money to the population
>print more fiat money
>"it will benefit us and will not harm the economy"

have yang skipped highschool to not understand basic economy

has yang**

>print more fiat money
Yang does not call for this you dumb SEAmonkey.

The money given to people each month isn't gone. It becomes sales tax to the consumer, income tax for the seller/producer, and momentum. If people have money to spend then they'll buy things. Walmart can cover the rest.

c17s are transport planes but why would a retard yang supporter know that.