Conservatives agree. It's time to do something about the gun problem

"A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined..."
- George Washington, First Annual Address, to both House of Congress, January 8, 1790

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776

"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787

"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, December 20, 1787

"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
- Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776

"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks." - Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 19, 1785

"The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to John Cartwright, 5 June 1824

Wow this post totally changed my mind!
I just sold my AR15 and got myself a 13inch howitzer like our founding fathers intended.

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"On every occasion [of Constitutional interpretation] let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying [to force] what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, [instead let us] conform to the probable one in which it was passed."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Johnson, 12 June 1823

"I enclose you a list of the killed, wounded, and captives of the enemy from the commencement of hostilities at Lexington in April, 1775, until November, 1777, since which there has been no event of any consequence ... I think that upon the whole it has been about one half the number lost by them, in some instances more, but in others less. This difference is ascribed to our superiority in taking aim when we fire; every soldier in our army having been intimate with his gun from his infancy."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Giovanni Fabbroni, June 8, 1778

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

"To disarm the people...[i]s the most effectual way to enslave them."
- George Mason, referencing advice given to the British Parliament by Pennsylvania governor Sir William Keith, The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adooption of the Federal Constitution, June 14, 1788

"I ask who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers."
- George Mason, Address to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 4, 1788

"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every country in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops."
- Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, October 10, 1787

"Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of."
- James Madison, Federalist No. 46, January 29, 1788

"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country."
- James Madison, I Annals of Congress 434, June 8, 1789

"...the ultimate authority, wherever the derivative may be found, resides in the people alone..."
- James Madison, Federalist No. 46, January 29, 1788

I honestly don't care about red flag laws and universal background checks. If they pass that, whatever, if they don't, whatever.

Fuck off with that "assault weapon" ban at the national level though.

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
- William Pitt (the Younger), Speech in the House of Commons, November 18, 1783

“A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves…and include, according to the past and general usuage of the states, all men capable of bearing arms… "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them."
- Richard Henry Lee, Federal Farmer No. 18, January 25, 1788

"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.... The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun."
- Patrick Henry, Speech to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 5, 1778

"This may be considered as the true palladium of liberty.... The right of self defense is the first law of nature: in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction."
- St. George Tucker, Blackstone's Commentaries on the Laws of England, 1803

The best part is some dude literally went to the blacksmith and commissioned cannons and they were like, "Okay, cool. Pick it up on Monday."

"The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other hand, arms, like law, discourage and keep the invader and the plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. The balance ofpower is the scale of peace. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside. And while a single nation refuses to lay them down, it is proper that all should keep them up. Horrid mischief would ensue were one-half the world deprived of the use of them; for while avarice and ambition have a place in the heart of man, the weak will become a prey to the strong. The history of every age and nation establishes these truths, and facts need but little arguments when they prove themselves."
- Thomas Paine, "Thoughts on Defensive War" in Pennsylvania Magazine, July 1775

"The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms."
- Samuel Adams, Massachusetts Ratifying Convention, 1788

"The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them."
- Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States, 1833

I dont agree

"What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty .... Whenever Governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins."
- Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts, I Annals of Congress 750, August 17, 1789

"For it is a truth, which the experience of ages has attested, that the people are always most in danger when the means of injuring their rights are in the possession of those of whom they entertain the least suspicion."
- Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 25, December 21, 1787

"If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers, may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual state. In a single state, if the persons intrusted with supreme power become usurpers, the different parcels, subdivisions, or districts of which it consists, having no distinct government in each, can take no regular measures for defense. The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair."
- Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28

Is Bill Mitchell Israeli?

what would i do with a gun? I'm a general, not a foot soldier. my weapons in this war are my words.

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This. This is the only acceptable solution.

Bow to your Jewish masters, Jow Forums.

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"[I]f circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people while there is a large body of citizens, little, if at all, inferior to them in discipline and the use of arms, who stand ready to defend their own rights and those of their fellow-citizens. This appears to me the only substitute that can be devised for a standing army, and the best possible security against it, if it should exist."
- Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28, January 10, 1788

"As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms."
- Tench Coxe, Philadelphia Federal Gazette, June 18, 1789

tl;dr
FUCK OFF

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It's really fucking sick, these demonic fucks get a hard on and start frothing at the mouth whenever some scumbag shoots up random people.
I refuse to believe they're human.

>A reasonable middle ground which protects our rights as well as our lives
>A law which allows the government to break into your house and take your things without due process
Those two are literally incompatible in every way

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

How many deaths will it take? Every single fucking one of them

>one guy says some shit

CONSERVATIVES AGREE!

we need to design a rapid fire assault crossbow that can be easily fabricated out of a sheet of plywood and some simple parts.

I had to check to make sure it was real. Unsurprising because Bill supported Jeb and is a hardcore Trump fanatic, but this isn't the way to "help" Trump. Trump fucked up so badly today it isn't even funny.

>they're all pushing "red flag" at once

Because this clearly isn't coordinated. Fuck bill mitchell and all the other soulless media shills.

Pretty sure that's an old graph, Sweden overtook us ages ago

Drugs can flood across the border along with a flood of 3rd worlders and the response from "conservatives" is to immediately cave to anti-gun activist with a federal anti-2A "compromise". NEVER will the leftist open border pushers "compromise" with mass immigration or nigger crime but "conservatives" are the first to accept a "compromise". Pure cancer

"Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'"
>thehill.com/homenews/administration/376097-trump-take-the-guns-first-go-through-due-process-second

"Trump to GOP senator: 'You're afraid of the NRA'"
>thehill.com/homenews/administration/376087-trump-to-gop-senator-youre-afraid-of-the-nra

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There is no reasonable middle ground. Shall not be infringed.

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I believe you're looking for this

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Hey fbi take note I’m not going to shoot him, I’m going to beat the shit out of David hogg if I ever see him on the street

"arms" meant single shot muskets.
Yes, I'm sure the founding fathers never imagined that a world where multi-shot weaponry existed despite the existence of the Puckle Gun.
Arms means arms. It means all guns, machines guns, tanks, jet fighters, and fucking nukes too. The government technically never had legal right to ban any of those. Not that I disagree with them for doing so, but it was never legal.
That said, I seriously doubt the connection between shootings and multishot weaponry is real, seen as civilians have had access to those for quite some time, and gun violence is actually nowhere close to its highest while mass shootings are.

OH THE IRONY

>"Government can't be trusted!"
>"We're going to trust the government that they won't abuse the rights and due process of gun owners"
Time to nail these neocon faggots on a cross

Agreed. I look forward to the government, the police and the army going back to muskets also.

The second amendment wasn't written to give Americans muskets, it was written to give them a chance against the government

Are Americans truly retarded or do they pretend to misunderstand it?

>Why vote against commies that offer free shit when the alternative is Jewish oligarchs?
you have to push both sides into something we want so we win either way

Demon Diane hasn’t been that wet in 45 years.

people are less likely to round you up and shoot you if they think one of you might be packing

SHALL

>tfw you are old enough to remember watching the LA riots live on TV
>tfw you remember how everyone around you commented how based the rooftop koreans are
>tfw your redneck neighbors and family members watched TV hoping to see the koreans fuck up rioters and looters on TV
The 90s were great.

People misinterpret all sorts of shit if it means you can cherry pick some sort of meaning that supports your ideals. Jahova's Witnesses do it all the time with quote mining

RSS is a protocol, not a website

Come and take it, little bitch.

CNN Business
"It was Mitchell's first time at CPAC, a trip that provided affirmation of his new career as a conservative political commentator and a hero among Trump supporters."
CPAC Club For Growth US Chamber of Commerce: all conservatives.
CNN says so.

Jefferson owned a girandoni. Lewis and Clark took a gurandoni with them on their expedition. The Austrian dragoons used the gurandoni as their issued rifle for 20 years. Napoleon issued standing orders that any foe caught with a girandoni rifle should be put to summary execution. The girandoni was a .46 cal, tube magazine fed, air rifle that held 22 shots, fired at ~1000fps and could be accurately aimed and fired until empty in one minute by trained riflemen. It was invented before 1780. The first multishot firearms were developed in the 16th fucking century.

The founding fathers stated we needed arms to defend against the government, which warrants the arms we have, in order to fight we must have their weapons.

It's sensible, Jow Forums.

Be sensible.

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I'll give up my arms when all criminals and all those working for the government decide to give up theirs as well

hitting girls is not very gentlemanly

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Never capitulate.

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Try to reason and negotiate a "middle ground" with someone using the method of successive approximations is doing their work for them. If you're pro-gun, don't negotiate your rights because you'll have nothing in a few years. Like we say here, give your hand and they'll take your arm.

>Jahova's Witnesses do it all the time with quote mining
Autistic note: when it'd done with religious texts it's called proof texting. It's similar, proof texting is a subset of quote mining, but I felt compelled to inform you of this.

Thank you for your time.

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>conservatives
>we need change
??

No, DEMOCRATS are the real gun nuts!

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I hope you like hiring a lawyer for 2 years just to get a constitutional right back

It's time to ban guns. Even your MIGA emperor Drumpf agrees.
Red flag laws and death penalty to all hate crime committed by white supremacists and white nationalists.

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*screeching intensifies*

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Also when was the last time pro-gun people got their rights back (hint: never) do how is it meant to be a negotiation?

>Isolated
Nigger they will string together completely random quotes from entirely different sections of the bible as long as if the combined look of those quotes lines up with their dogma

It meant all weapons, including cannons, including cannons with grapeshot.

America died when the South lost the war

I thought there was primitive firearms now capable throughout runonations on the 2nd ammendment

He was always too rehearsed and polished to be just a navy seal turned politician. Clandestine plant, undoubtedly. Plus the cunt was already on the DoD payroll, what a shoe-in.

>relying on the government
>for anything
these people are the ones who should be deported

Ruminations

torille hä

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I agree
Only sensible to let the police break into your house without warning to take your gun. They'll only shoot you in your own home because some random Facebook mod didn't like your post... what's not to like?

> DAAHHUURUUU
> DEYS JUST GONN TAKE UR GUN FOR A DAY IF UR DANGEROUS DONT WORRY
> DEY WONT JUST CHANGE DE DEFINITION OF DANGEROUS DURURRRRRR
I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU PEOPLE ARE STILL JUST FUCKING SHITPOSTING.
THESE POLITICIANS AND SUBVERTERS HAVE ADDRESSES. YOUR FOREFATHERS WOULD HAVE ALREADY KILLED THEM.

Red flag laws are a slippery slope. Get some twat like Eugene Gu and he'll say everyone is a red flag.

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This isnt far enough, the police should come into our homes and shoot us in the face, therefore potential criminals will be put down and we can live safer

Actual stats

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Practice more.
Bite,Pour,Ram, Fire.
Chosen-Men get three shots per minute.

>b-but muh muskets
Fuck this neocon rat

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That's exactly how it goes.

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So he wrote that on paper and pen, right?

It's only sensible

Bill Mitchell has to be some kind of paid propagandist. He never disagrees with Trump on anything and always makes excuses.

Look at the red spike! The US is too scary!

>let's be honest folks, leftists are right even though their argument hasn't changed in 30 years and it is not politically convenient for me to make this statement

Not just that. I dont recall which off the top of my head, but one of the Scandinavian countries outfitted their royal guards with automatic rifles that iirc were used in at least one battle before the revolutionary war.

They were just too expensive and (due to lack of sophisticated mfg processes) too expensive to maintain to be in normal use YET.

clearly we must become an agressive police state that literally murders everyone

I vote for massive nuclear war, if everyone is dead then no one will get shot

You should see here. First they made impossible to buy most guns, then the army tried to ban even shotguns and limit the type of ammo used in it. Before the military coup in 1964, anyone could buy automatic weapons without a problem an in anonymity, now you can't get a revolver without doing some real paperwork.

In order to own a gun you should own a home.

>paid propagandist
The proper term is 'journalist'

Kys boomer kike

Are you against the USA having a standing army?

Oh my what a typo.
I meant they would have killed them in Minecraft.