Don't let anything distract you from the fact that the industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
Technology is the root cause of every single problem in the world right now. It enables everything. Reminder that you cannot keep the good parts of technology and discard the bad parts. 'Good' tech is built upon 'evil' tech. The medical technology keeping you alive were made possible through , as is the case with the multitude of unethical, inhumane experimentations that were happening during the world wars.
If we cut the power out:
No more immigration No more propaganda No more feminism No more pollution No more government No more bugmen No more surveillance state No more international banking No more weak genotypes No more NWO No more technocrats No more transhumanism
Destroy technology and the natural order will fall back into place.
An anti-tech revolution is possible, it will be achieved during our lifetime. Either we destroy industrial society right now, or we wait for its inevitable collapse which might throw our entire planet into oblivion - alongside all life on earth. We won't take the risk. We are not gamblers, addicts, urban degenerates. We are strong men with strong will. We will not let history run its course. We will not accept reform. We will not tolerate debased, ungrounded activism. We will focus on the one single aspect we can control, which will guarantee us results. No idealism. No ideology. No domesticated bullshit.
We will fight for the total destruction of industrial society. No compromise.
No. His solution is for a small group of intelligent and organized INDIVIDUALS (no collectivism) to destroy technology in one big sweep, globally, because naturally, we cannot destroy three power plants and call it a day. We need to destroy enough technology so that the industrial system will never recover. It is in fact, a lot more simpler that it appears. I advise those interested in reading Anti-Tech Revolution.
Tyler Parker
Funny how nobody ever addresses the argument. I really, reaaaaaaaaaaaally want to hear someone telling me I'm wrong. How can surveillance capitalism continue to exist if we cut the power out? Feminism? Pollution? Propaganda? mmh? The arguments are so clear and thought-out that the only adversity they could face are ad hominems, personal attacks, and generally just womanly type of behavior.
Aaron Morris
That's not possible.
Hudson Johnson
The system will inevitably collapse. Nothing lasts forever. You are an idealist. Anything man-made can be destroyed. I understand your initial reluctance but in light of Kaczynski's surgical analysis of industrial society, it is in fact really hard to argue the opposite. One has to be fully brainwashed not to recognize the flaws and fragility of the industrial system. It is not a matter of the revolution being possible or not, but a matter of domestication. Has the system encompassed so many aspects of your life (domestication) that its collapse would mean your death? See, you are thinking through the lenses of the system, not your own. If you cannot think this through, you have given up your entire agency to institutions and technology.
Luis Edwards
You didn't refute what I've said. You danced like an agitated monkey around the subject. Clear question: how do you destroy energy production on a global scale? Provide a clear answer.
Liam Evans
>Provide a clear answer LOL, okay FBI.
You do realize that we've ran out of surface oil, we need technology and energy to harvest more sources of energy. This point is crucial to understand; the day we have a global power outage, the system will never get back up since we need oil to dig for more oil. We need electricity to get more electricity. We have exhausted all the energy sources which require non-technological means to harvest. Furthermore, even if we had access to these energy sources, we need technology to organize efficiently to get the system back up.
Technology is a continuous phenomenon, which cannot be interrupted, ever. Industrial society IS doomed to collapse. the question is whether we wait it out or take the responsability upon us.
William Morgan
You are right that technology is being used for evil, but it is not the root of evil. Man's attempt to separate and distinguish themselves from their relationship to God is the sickness unto death
Easily possible. The power network is basically defenseless and easy to attack.
Now, WHY would you do it is another question.
Bentley Ward
This is the correct answer, and the one that I hope for, but I'm not holding my breath. The lemmings are not going to let go of the system that keeps them alive. The only reason the human population has grown this large is due to technology. We do away with technology, we end up having to do away with at least 80% of the human population.
Jacob Taylor
I will never discard the theological angle, but maybe technology was made possible BECAUSE of man's attempt to separate himself from god, don't you think?
Rationalization was the groundwork for technology. Rationalization is man's attempt to separate himself from god. We are talking about the same thing. So think it through, and you will realize that technology is inherently evil.
Jayden Davis
You're ignoring one possibility. The remote possibility that the industrial system we have is study and stable enough to go on. We will, in effect, become mere cogs in a larger machine. We will lose (more than we already have) our humanity. This is a real possibility. Be scared tedpiller.
Aaron Moore
Oil is not the only energy source on the planet. Do you retards even try?
Owen Peterson
Ok pal. Lets all live in molded run down houses with barely any running water and die early because medical advances are evil.
Isaac Brooks
>technology was made possible BECAUSE of man's attempt to separate himself from god, don't you think? Absolutely, look into the lineage of Cain in Genesis. They gave birth to technology after they left God.
>Rationalization is man's attempt to separate himself from god Also True. But, this is a fundamental aspect of the fallen world. ALL is broken. We need to be aware of how we use tech and use it for good purposes, but also hold it at arms length like a snake.
Grayson Long
>This is a real possibility. Not really. The power grid is at its limit. A single (!) big accident somewhere in Germany will blackout all of Europe for weeks, maybe months. That is the reality.
Luis Reyes
But he is right, we should not discard the possibility that the system never collapses, else we would be idealists and not ready to tackle on the system. I mean, it's the possibility that makes us all anti-techers wake up in the morning and put efforts towards the destruction of the system. Both of you guys are right, in fact.
Austin Watson
Even Ted acknowledges it's a possibility. The big thing for the electrical grid would be a big solar flare. Most of our infrastructure is not ready for this. It will plunge the world in darkness (electricity wise) overnight.
Jace Peterson
you retarded incels are now using "we live in a society" unironically. haha holy shit. The unabomber was a mentally ill murderer. Holy fucking shit.
William Perez
Ted's analysis is undeniably correct. But if you boil it down to it's core, he basically wants us to remain human and remain "free". Not be a slave. It is his vision and it's a respectable one. But it's his opinion.
I want to trade my freedom and humanity for eternal life and the conquest of the universe.
Adrian Diaz
>kill people >throw society into a dark age >establish caste system >whitemenrule.exe zoomers boomers and doomers fuck off
lol I'm sure you brainlets think his analysis of "leftists bad" is fucking profound but nowhere in the mans insane gibberish does he ever actually substantiate any of his claims. He was just an entitled, mentally ill loser like the rest of you.
Jaxon Perez
>Do you retards even try? Why would we need to convince a gypsy of anything?
Jaxson Kelly
It is becoming more and more obvious that technology is our ROOT problem. All this talk about social movements like feminism or globalism become trivial masturbation once we remember what their roots are.
And we are far from the bottom of the pit. Humans will quite soon become obsolete unless things happen.
The reason this sentiment is ultimately useless to preach is that you're never going to convince all other nations to voluntarily hobble themselves with an amish lifestyle. For better or for worse, we're stuck with technology. The only ones able to avoid it do so with the ring of protection from those who do not. It's no different from a retarded leftoid that proclaims we must tax the middle class a 50% carbon footprint tax so that China and India will follow our green example. The best you could do would be some sort of ecofash government where the powers that be enforce bans on things that are clearly harmful to human social development.
>Industrial Society and Its Future - Theodore Kaczynski 1995 I've read most of it (3/4 of it - I'm too lazy to finish it). It was really enjoyable reading and I agree in pretty much all core points of his but the main issue is that you cannot cut off technology and hope that everyone else will do it to. You cannot apply such policy and not fear that the Chinese won't eventually show up in your community and dominate your tech-less society.
His message has been applied more or less by the Amish, and if I remember correctly, they are very happy with their lives, have lots of kids etc. Paradise on Earth. YET The have the privilege to do so as a minority of a strong modern nation.
If the Amish were to become the 90% of the West, then automatically you are helpless to foreign influence.
Do you (or Kaczynski) have any solution to this issue? If I recall correctly, Kaczynski said that the revolution should just happen worldwide, so that we can guarantee that none will still be using tech, which obviously is bollocks. Even if this by some magical way it did happen and 100% of the planet went tech-less, we have no means to guarantee that some of them won't go back into using tech once again, thus gaining instantly an immense advantage over the rest of us.
I wish it could happen, dear fren, but it's nothing but a dream. I find more reasonable to hope for a plan to become a breakaway civ to leave behind all the retards and build your own little paradise somewhere else
Oh man life was so much better when I worked 18 hours a day shoveling and working enough field to maybe cover enough calories for a week half a year from now if it didnt fail or get raised and when people.could execute me because of the basis of truth being a book written thousands of years ago instead of a wider human consensus of what reality is. Everything is so terrible compared to wiping your ass with your fingers and dying of not praying enough (medical condition that could be easily resolved today)
Juan Sullivan
Yes, the entire book 'anti tech revolution' addresses this issue , which is the most important one to consider. You should read it, it's 10x more comprehensive than the manifesto
Ryder Thompson
Not technology. The root of the problem can be traced back to the "Enlightenment". This brought about the death of God, the intrusion of the government into every aspect of life, central banking, the erosion of the family, the destruction of the extended family, and the erasure of any sense of community. Radical individualism developed in tandem with the all powerful state, resulting in people being atomized, isolated, and powerless before the state and other centers of power that wished to yoke him like some beast.
No sane person wants to go back to living in mud huts, working like mad just to feed yourself, dying from some plague at 30, watching 40% of your children dying at birth. Besides, bronze age man did a hell of a lot of damage to the environment. The moors of the British isles used to be forest, but pre-iron tool using people cut it all down, put it under the plow, and when the climate changed, all that land became what we see today. No, it's not the tools that need to be banished. We need to go back to forms of government, culture, and faith that have proven to be less volition, more sustainable, than what we have been doing since the American and French revolutions.
Adrian Richardson
Alright, I'll order it soon. Thanks.
Lincoln Thompson
You are right but we can't fight ideas. You can't undo rationalization and the enlighetnment. But you can destroy power plants and be done with industrial society. As always, TK has addressed this particular issue.
Also, your second paragraph is plane wrong, except for the chilf mortality part. But then again...... Kaczynski has addressed those issues, too.
