Thoughts on social housing

I live in the UK and we have council houses, basically homes/flats provided to poor people who aren't currently working and they don't pay rent or pay a small amount of rent. The council homes are usually shitholes in horrible areas. For example I am 23 and grew up in an orphanage and had a bad life and due to that I have no family or job so I get a one bedroom flat that is a complete shithole but I don't pay rent. Should I have this option and if not what should happen to me and people like me who can't be Neets living at home. And what happens to people like me in your countries?

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It should be available but only as a safety net and only to natives. Everyone else has to pay.

There should be a cheap housing option for people. Landlords and property speculators has made property much more expensive than it should be. Working Class housing, even in shithole areas. People like being debt slaves. Those that want to live frugally have no hope competing against them in the property market. We all become debt slaves. Genius!

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What if someone does not have a job?

This literally this.

The welfare state has been proven to be a disaster. Like any socialist ideology it revolves around morality and that everybody does the right thing. But this never happens in real life. Receiving free things can make people feel entitled and ungrateful. My advice to you is to get a job or a course and do something with your life. You could also start your own family and have family in laws.

Are young council home scum basically the Chad version of the Virgin Neet?

It should require participation in social groups and work that benefits the community.

I am, I am not a lazy fuck just had a long series of horrible events happen to me. I am just living in this shithole until I get a job then save and hopefully have a mortgage by the time I am 25

The government shouldn't have anything got to do with the housing market. The last time the government wanted affordable housing for people it ended up in the 2008 global recession and leaving the market in a mess til this day.

>Make the poor be the jesters and servants to the middle class and rich
Cringe

Shit can happen us all. It can either make us or break us. At least you're on the right road.

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Of course this thread will die, no "reeee jews" or "BASED TRUMP"

The areas are crap because no one works. It's full of dole-scum and their offspring with no good thing to occupy them. Of course it will be shite.

The whole idea of social housing is a bad one. Housing support is fine, in terms of helping the low incomed/temporarily jobless pay their rent/mortgage, but giving them a free house gives a permanence to the situation. Why move if you get everything for free?

Neets are the saddest type of people. They will never realise their potential in any field, nor approach the capabilities of their working superiors. I feel pity for them. They are human dross, when they could all have been glorious. They cannot even see the baseness of their situation.

The worst thing, to my mind, is that we are the ones to blame. We allowed them to degenerate like an unused muscle, by paying for them to live without working.

Hitler had the right idea. British Labour Front or British Army for all the able-bodied unemployed. Let them earn their bread and be proud of it.

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NEETs are a symptom of a bad society.

That was also due to the Government just letting banks hand out high interest loans to people unable to pay them

100% you grew up middle class and never had any real issues or struggles until you were at least 16

The problem with subsidized housing is that it concentrates a lot of degenerates in a small area, destroying a neighborhood with crime and drugs. This lowers the quality of life and is a direct economic attack on the working class people who were working hard and paying to live in the neighborhood.

If the government wants to give jobless people free houses they should put them in Nunavut, not in my backyard.

you should offer recreational euthnasia, freely available to buy, no questions asked

if you gave people an out. you wouldent have to fund them.

and society would be left with the best

You would live in a homeless shelter.

But are you saying this user should not have had the welfare state to fall back on? What happens to him, since you claim welfare is a disaster?

The "degenerates" grew up with a worse quality of life without the advantages people like you had. If your nation was attacked you middle class pussies would go crying to those "degrnerates" because they were raised tough with real struggle unlike you

Letting? It was the government who encouraged the banks to give out loans. They also hope for a better economy and it was until the bubble burst.

People like OP don't get free housing. There is housing benefit to reduce rent little but the only real free housing goes to single moms on welfare.

Those who claim the welfare system allows for comfy life in the UK are fucking talking shit.

I was on the dole when I was 22-23 and had to live on my own. You get like £55 a week. There were days when the electricity ran out and I had to sit with candles for a couple of days. You literally can't afford new clothes.

Fuck yourselves boomers.

Why would I have to live in a homeless shelters with druggies, criminals, arsonists and nonces because I grew up poor and had a hard life unlike you

Oh yeah, they're sure tough for getting addicted to opioids.

What's stopping you from getting a job?

Nembutal is a easy to use and most peaceful suicide method

sending the person to sleep and never waking up.
make that available and all your welfare problems are solved.

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Why would you encourage a useless mutt from the orphanage now living on welfare to breed? His parents obviously lost the race.

Is this a statement or a question? Either way I dealt with bad times and prospered.

>didnt work for that £55 a week
>didn't work for that roof over your head

fuck off, you don't deserve shit. at least it's better than a kick in the fucking teeth. don't moan

Charties. They do more work for the poor and homeless as it is already even with a welfare state. The idea of a government looking after people is crazy to me. People become dependent on the government and it gives them more power and control to help the rich. The government's purposes should be limited.

If I didn't get it, I would be out robbing and people like you would be first you cunt. You don't know anything about my life, or people who live in these situations, nobody wants it.

or you could just off yourself and help society at large you fucking dosser.
you get given every fucking chance in this country, it doesn't matter who you are. but it's never fucking good enough is it

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>Why would you encourage a useless mutt from the orphanage now living on welfare to breed? His parents obviously lost the race.

Because i judge people as an individual. How do you know that he could go on to be successful and have a great life? What happened in his personal life is irrelevant to what he can achieve.

I'm sorry but I can't help but get the impression that the people who spout this shit have never had to deal with unemployment in the real world, do you still live with your parents?

The government ''looks after'' people to the bare minimum they have to to stop people being homeless and causing trouble, it's not a nice life.

>you get given every fucking chance in this country, it doesn't matter who you are. but it's never fucking good enough is it
I've finished uni now and have a job. If it wasn't for that safety net I would be homeless. You don't have a clue what you are talking about.

Waaaah, waaaah, stop criticising real problems and proposing real solutions.
Chip on your shoulder, old bean?
Get over yourself. People shouldn't be allowed to live for free. If you find that idea symptomatic of being well brought-up, it says a lot about your idea of self.

Get over being a poor-fag. Clean shitters and be proud. Learn a trade. Set a good example to your children.

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And why should everyone else have to pay for your shit upringing? How about your parents take responsiblty for failing to provide for their child? Oh wait I forgot we're post responsibility now and other people who sacrifice their time and energy to wage slave have to support mutts that dont give a fuck about anything and leech from their wage slip.

You are the reason why I always beat the fuck out of middle class guys at bars. Complete pussies and judgemental

This.

If people on welfare didn't get the help they needed, they would show up at your door and take what they need instead. The pittance people on welfare receive should be seen, if nothing else, as a way to keep crime rates down. It's also cheaper than putting people in prison too.

>you are the reason i always beat off middle class guys at bars

listen i know you are poor but there are better alternatives than prostitution honestly. suicide being one

The only option should be barracks style living in a strictly controlled, minimalist government compound. Food and absolute neccessities provided, but nothing else. No TV, phones, etc.
This is not supposed to be comfortable, just to keep you from dying. If you want more, leave and work for it.

I chortled.

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It's cheaper to provide welfare money than to maintain a quasi-prison system like that. Retarded.

You grew up middle class, most likely lived at home until uni then parents paid your rent. Glad to know I am the kind of guy that emasculates you at bars and you don't do anything because you are a pussy who grew up soft
First of all you live with your parents you are not having to pay for anyone.Secondly it wasn't my decision for my parents to have a kid, and if they didn't have me my mum wouldn't have me to protect her from local scum. And also because if people pay to get me back on my feet ai pay it back tenfold in taxes eventually

This. Welfare is really just the government bribing the turbopoor to not stab eachother for booze money.

>The only option should be barracks style living
You put loads of poor people with nothing to lose in barracks and see what happens idiot.

it would give retired military folk something to do to top up their pension

Sounds like you are thinking of your mums reason for divorcing your dad, also I ain't poor I rip off pussies like you for drugs

No I've been living out on my own since i was 18. Welfare doesn't help anyone it only encourages you to be lazy. If you become unemployed and turn to a life of crime then that shows you have no morality. It's not about being unemployed or poverty.

The government doesn't "help people to the bare minimum". They give people a lazy life and house foreigners who contributed nothing to society. People are still homeless so please tell me how they are stopping it? As a matter of fact it's the government who are creating even more homeless.

USA has something similar but they all go to black people and they ruin every street they are on. However, neet hive buildings would be a smart way to separate the incel menace from the rest of society.

The only one being judgemental is you. I didn't grow up middle class and have been in over 20 street fights and made 99% of my money on the street. Whining doesn't fix anything bro, just get a job or find a hustle.

>Welfare doesn't help anyone it only encourages you to be lazy
Wrong. You are talking shit. I was on welfare and now have finished uni and have a job. I would be on the streets otherwise.

>As a matter of fact it's the government who are creating even more homeless.
Right now, probably since they are constantly trying to cut welfare like you propose.

Do you spastics really think doleys don't commit crime anyway?

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I am but I need to figure out how to kill my scumbag older brother who is mistreating my gran without getting caught first before

>I ain't poor
>I'm on welfare
lmao

You wouldn't be on the streets. If you ended up homeless you would have eventually got yourself together and took it as a lesson.
The vast majority of people that are homeless have serious personal problems. It's not because of they can't afford things. Most are alcoholics or drug addicts who had some terrible happen to them. Any decent person who ended up homeless would always get help from charities and get back on their feet.

>The government’s welfare policies have emerged as the biggest single trigger for homelessness now the economy has recovered, the study says, and they look likely to increase pressure on vulnerable households for at least the next two years.

>Official estimates of rough sleeper numbers in England in 2013 were 2,414 – up 37% since 2010. But the study’s estimates based on local data suggest that the true figure could be at least four times that.

I can't speak for Ireland but this is a known problem in the UK and the Tories are still trying to cut welfare like you are proposing.

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So many assumptions. So much aggression.
This is why you are unable to move forward with your life.
Workhouses. That's the only solution for types like you.

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Free money plus £500 a week tax free from drugs :)

>Welfare reforms are contributing to homelessness, among young people aged 16 to 24, by affecting their ability to access and sustain housing, according to Homeless Link’s Young & Homeless 2018 report, published on Monday 16 April.

>Ninety-two percent of survey respondents identified delayed Universal Credit payments as having an impact on youth homelessness, with 90% and 80% respectively reporting that sanctions and the capping of the Local Housing Allowance (LHA) are also having an effect.

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Kenny, is that you?

Workhouses as in a job? Sounds great. Why do you assume I don't want to work

Shhhhh

Bring back the workhouse, keep family units together but separate single (i.e. unmarried) men and women into separate barracks. Orphans are grouped and assigned a guardian who is unwilling to do the job, and didn't apply for it (thus guaranteeing he is not a paedo). All candidates are processed for job suitability, those only suitable for extremely simple labour will be charged with maintaining coastal defences, factories, planting trees, and litter cleaning etc.. Any criminals are included automatically in this class, repeat offenders are killed. Once given a job they are assigned a home like our current council houses near their workplace. Simple as.

>Workhouses as in a job?
No, he is talking Victorian era shit. Probably loves Mogg.

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It's nothing got to do with cutting welfare. The government destroyed the housing market by encouraging the banks to give out mortgages to people who couldn't afford it. And they're also stopping devolpers from building housing again by stupid regulations. New housing will drive down the price of housing and rent but the government and politicians don't want that because most of them are landlords.

stop larping

>It's nothing got to do with cutting welfare.
No it literally does. What the fuck do you think happens when you cut welfare.

If you want to work, there is work out there, my man.
Contrary to your assumptions, I have benefited for a time from the Department of Work and Pensions, lived through housing support and been unemployed.
It is shite, truly shite, but there is work for whoever looks and has the right attitude. If you are not finding work, it is because you judge yourself too well. Set your standards a little lower, get a job, then work your way up from there.

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Why do you want orphans to be raised bad? What did we do wrong

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suicide would be quicker and easier to deal with the unsuccessful

why does no one listen to my ideas

Get a job dumbass

coppers cant even keep a single black man in line

how do you expect to handle millions?

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Kek now who is the poorfag_ £500 selng e and weed those are rookie numbers once I get a coke connect next month that will double at least

No I meant that you pick someone out and say: 'your job, as assigned to you by 'er maj, is to look after this lot and make sure they don't do drugs an' that. If they do you will be held accountable'.' Compare that to saying: 'does anyone want to look after a bunch of kids, completely unsupervised?' Guarantee you'll get paedos with the last method.

You'd be homeless in America. It would either motivate you to finally do something with your life, or you'd start doing meth and drinking everyday until you get stabbed by a wild nigger.

there should be a safety net. A clean, small place with free bread and water and a little money as a basis for everyone.

>Jow Forums arguing for getting rid of welfare now
you larpers will be the first to be culled. Half of the website are young male neets. Literally the first to go.

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They are guilty of the crime of niggerdom, and have committed it their entire lives. Therefore they are repeat offenders and subject to execution.

If I get a minimum wage job after rent I will be barely making an extra £100 every week for working like 40 hours

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>>Welfare reforms are contributing to homelessness, among young people aged 16 to 24, by affecting their ability to access and sustain housing, according to Homeless Link’s Young & Homeless 2018 report, published on Monday 16 April.

It has nothing got to do with welfare. At that age it's not suited to move out of the parents home because of the high prices. They should be saving for their own home. The statistics could have been done on people with no family and serious personal problems. Thats the reason they are homeless.

God I had when NEETs have the “wouldn’t get out of bed for x” mentality. You zoomers must realise you either go to Post grad education or start at the bottom. Otherwise stay NEET for life.

The real victims will be the parents of Jow Forums users, they will have to support them more financially. I am considering making a psychological thriller based on a Jow Forums users mothers torment raising them

>At that age it's not suited to move out of the parents home because of the high prices.
No because they don't buy, they rent you mong

You sound like you're 13 or mentally slow. Go away.

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Ya just completely ignore the rest of the comment. You've got no agreements.

A law that has parents charged as well for crime committed by their kids would end youth crime instantly

>You've got no agreements.
No, I don't agree lmao. Welfare cuts are affecting people being able to live and rent, and affecting homelessness. Look at the figures since the Tory cuts, this isn't hard.

British police are the worlds least effective police force.

you cant honestly believe the manpower exists?

This thread sums up international compassion

Uk Compassionate
America Uncaring
Canada Hateful

You can't have it everyway. I've already explain to you why the rents are so high but you ignore it because you're a fucking clown who hasnt got a clue and thinks the government can solve it when they have created it. Lose the attitude because you've got zero arguments. You know welfare helps nobody but you can't go back on what you said.

>Would love some participation in this thread from other countries
Over here you’d be kicked out of the orphanage as soon as you reach 18 and left to fend for yourself. Good luck with that.