I support the notion that if you don’t want to sell something to someone, you should have the right to do.
If you think cloudflare should not discriminate between speeches, do you think the bakery should be forced to sell cakes to people whom they don’t want?
Yes but cakeshop doesnt encompass 10 000s of people. Cloudflare does. No one give a shit about small business of one man. Cloudflare is big as fuck shit. It's like you deine to cross the road to the people you don't like. Of course they will be mad and it's against the law.
I don't care about kikeflare's rights anymore than they care about my right not to bake gay cakes for gay jewish niggers. If I had it my way owners of all antiwhite businesses would be arrested and have their property confiscated .
The mental gymnastics force is already on the scene, I expect nothing less
quite
i won't let the most brazen hypocrites on the planet try to "gotcha" me. these quasi-governmental corporations do not have rights. they are not people. they are not mom & pop. eat shit.
>corporations do not have rights
Sounds like you're a dirty socialist
>poltards can't write a sentence without racial slurs or forced memes
Jow Forums really does rot the brain.
Sexuality is a protected class, your shitty opinions and conspiracy theories about minorities are not.
yes; and?
I fully support Cloudflare because I'm not a stupid communist and I know it's better to let markets decide. If they don't want to sell, great, a competitor who wants to will pop up if there is enough demand.
I agree. It angers me that cloudfare does it, but they should always have the right to choose their customers. However, when their actions are used in court against them (torrentfreak.com
It shouldn't be. If you are a degenerate people SHOULD be able to discriminate against you.
What conspiracy theories you fucking retard? That these subhumans are filth and need to leave? Get outside and out of your moms basement. If cloudflare can be fags to 8ch then the bakers don't have to bake the cake. Actually, the cake is less important, they can just go somewhere else. Cloudflare is more important, fuck those jews
how does cloudflare make money and why did it have no period of obscurity? one day it just suddenly existed and was in use by many websites.
also it just slows sites down
>everyone who isn't like me is a (racial_slur)
And you retards wonder why nobody wants to associate with you.
i doubt therell be a competitor to fill in the gap for white supremacist websites or what have you.
>created in 2009
>became popular around 2013
>"no period of obscurity"
Wew.
>antiwhite
i'd say have sex but at this point lets just be realistic, just end it already user
you should be barred from the internet for ableism
FASCIST NAZIS ARE NOT WELCOME HERE
I think anyone who wants to operate a licensed public business should have to serve everyone as a condition of their license.
if you want to play that game, whites should -- and must -- be legally and socially permitted to speak of nonwhites in the same manner that nonwhites are permitted to speak of whites
Move to Brazil.
>everyone who doesn't agree with me with a strawman sjw
(You)
>everyone who doesn't agree with me is an [ableist slur]
you first
this, my NIGG-
>72194289
(You)
what does hueland have to do with your social skill problems
>Reductio ad absurdum
Your analogy can be taken only under two assertions.
1. Are cakes critical for your business?
2. Is the bakery the only one in the whole country?
If the answer is yes to both and the bakery is conditioning you to sell you cakes under certain circunstances things change a lot.
If you have lots of bakeries around, this would be a non-issue as you can just opt for a bakery that doesn't discriminate you for your opinion.
It's not discrimination you fucking retards. 8ch actively breached Cloudflare's ToS which means termination of the service.
GO TO POL YOU FAG
Oh no he's retarded. He didn't even read the screenshot.
>In particular, by refusing to provide creative services
Obviously, an artist making a making a cake is not the same as a communication utility.
I see islamic extremism and Antifa operating in the open in Twitter and Facebook and I don't see Cloudflare terminating their services to them.
Corporations cannot simultaneously have individual rights and not be punishable in the same way an individual is. When a person is convicted for terrible crimes, they're sent to jail. They can't hurt anyone anymore, and their life is put on hold. When a corporation is convicted for terrible crimes, they're fined. Often, this fine is covered by the higher profit margins they experienced by being shitheads. Corporations who have shown themselves to be sociopathic must be imprisoned. "You must stop all business activity except to pay immediate debts for a period of 90 days". That's a pretty crippling punishment, and there's less conflict of interest in ordering it over ordering them to pay a sum of legal protection money.
>Get outside and out of your moms basement
That lack of self-awareness tho
So you are also in favor of the local utilities companies deciding to shut off my power and water because they don't like me?
More like AT&T cutting you off because cloudflare is replaceable.
1.Facebook and Twitter don't use Cloudflare.
2. Facebook and Twitter are under heavy criticism for their inefficent moderation.
3. Facebook in particular has been named by the UN as partially responsible for the Myanmar genocide.
4. Facebook is under investigation by the USA and EU for their mismanagement of private data and their failure to moderate misinformation and hate speech.
5. Facebook and Twitter do not encourage said behaviour and in fact try to moderate it. 8ch actively refuses to moderate and even encourages such behaviour which is why this isn't even the first 8ch mass shooter.
But sure, keep pretending its an evil conspiration against pol.
>be an amerishart
>lick corporate boots
Like clockwork
Utilities are public goods. Cloudflare and the bakery are not.
>8ch actively refuses to moderate and even encourages such behaviour which is why this isn't even the first 8ch mass shooter.
rubbish
what the fuck is a public good when it's at home? completely arbitrary term
Because cloudflare is an infrastructure company. Do you think electrical companies should cut people off the grid if they dislike them politically?
>Corporations cannot simultaneously have individual rights and not be punishable in the same way an individual is
Sure they can, what the fuck are you gonna do about it? Make some shitty laws? They'll just move headquarters to some other place and suddenly your economy is in the tanker. Stop using them? Drops in a fucking ocean.
Global corporations can only be held in check by global government or zero government influence combined with a universally educated and properly self-interested consumer base. Neither of those will ever happen, so get on your knees and start sucking corporate dick before they start becoming more effective at using the mountains of dirt they have on you.
Pro tip: it’s not.
you'll get to the point where ROFL WHY ARE YOU SO BUTTHURT ABOUT BEING BARRED FROM ALL BANKS AND CARD SERVICES AND ISPS AND SUPERMARKETS JUST START YOUR OWN
>Do you think electrical companies should cut people off the grid if they dislike them politically?
Unironically yes
>big goiporations are bad
>selects parking meters from 9 images to post reply effectively helping google’s ai
Oh no no no
How fuckign new are you or did you forget this site had elliot rogers? we would not be talking on this Korean basketweaving node js page if such a knee jerk reaction occured then.
My point is that major necessary things like payment processors, cloudflare, domain registrars, google, etc should be classified as public utilities and subject to the same laws as your ISP, your water company, your power company, and so on. Trying to equate these sort of natural monopolies and massive corporations to some local christfag who doesn't want to bake a cake for a fag wedding is completely disingenuous.
>0.25 shekels has been deposited into your account
Should Jow Forums become a public utility, considering it is *the* most popular imageboard?
>oh no what a horrible distaster can you imagine how awful people's lives would be if they had to use localized and renewable energy sources instead of paying the """energy company""" to pump chemicals into my drinking water????
t. an-prim gang
Rubbish? 8ch refuses to moderate doxxing boards even though it is illegal. There are a thousands reasons for Cloudflare to deny its services to 8ch.
>knee jerk reaction
8ch has had years to fix their shit but they didn't want to.
>If you think cloudflare should not discriminate between speeches, do you think the bakery should be forced to sell cakes to people whom they don’t want?
comparing mom & pop's bakery to a company which controls 10% of the internet is disingenuous and dishonest
Yeah, they're public bads.
this, it's a false equivalence and I'm tired of this tactical lolbertarian bullshit used to encourage free-speech-suppression-by-proxy
Pol is not free speech.
Okay, so Twitter should allow radical islam contents because it has ‘monopoly’ on the Internet and it shouldn’t discriminate speech right?
Jow Forums has been warning about botnet services for many years. You just got the memo now that they can't be trusted? Did you think we were joking when we said make your own?
If what they're saying isn't illegal, then sure. And I'm pretty sure they already do. Just like how cloudflare had no problem hosting literal ISIS websites but draws the line at a finnish ice-fishing forum where people throw up a memefesto or two.
my stance hasn't changed in many years. This isn't some new revelation for me, but apparently there are still retards here who haven't gotten the memo.
*refuses to sell to black people*
No I think it's you who hasn't gotten the memo. Make your own doesn't mean you are going to some magical free speech land. It means you can now choose to kick who you want off your platform. You know, the same thing that they do. You can't escape this.
What was the fix for elliot rogers other than memes?
My point is the reasoning is bullshit. This is a political gesture not an actual violation by 8ch. I think they're fucking hypocrites since cloudflare hosts fucking Jow Forums that had Breivik and Elliot both posting the exact same psychopathic shit on a vietnamese jpeg website. Those fags predated even infinichan existence.
8ch hosts illegal content including doxxing, incitement to violence and libel none if which is protected speech no matter how much you retards keep screeching it is.
If an entity is not either an individual or a company under sole proprietorship of a single us citizen or legal resident, then it should not have the right to free expression, or at least not the same right to free expression as individuals.
>he doesn't know
Sink.jpeg
OY DAS FUKKEN RACSIT MATE
HEY DIS GUYS FOOKEN RAYCIST
YA DINK YA FUNY MISTAH RACIST
They got a new DNS. so they will continue to host "illegal" content and you will continue to be mad.
Ethnicity is protected, your shitty conspiracy theories aren't.
>twitter should allow radical islam
Of course not, but they do. For over six years I have followed active ISIS members on Twitter and even voted in their execution polls.
Question is will the silicon valley gang continue to hound the next provider until they shut Down completely? This isn't over, yet.
Good for you. Now go back.
Seethe.
It's the same guys that covered Stormfront. Until a judge literally declares their content illegal in a court of law they won't be taken down again, DNS wise.
So, leftoids can seethe and cry and moan and I can say the nword in peace.
They are already down again
It takes awhile for a DNS update to "down stream."
How long is this gonna last? The tech space is still fast moving it will only a matter of time until current standards get replaced. How long before cloudflare and DNS gets replaced?
No the guys who were providing support were renting servers from a different company and they refused services to them.
mobile.twitter.com
I checked and it looks like the plug was actually pulled on the new DNS provider, so, oof. I guess.
Now we wait.
the new >dilate, nice
>Organizations have rights to deny their business to whomever they choose
*organization flexes this right*
>ORGANIZATIONS NEED TO PROVIDE FOR EVERYONE REGARDLESS. 1ST AMENDMENT REQUIRES IT. REEEEE
Grow the fuck up Jow Forumstards
>Organizations have rights to deny their business to whomever they choose
wrong
Bake that cake you bigot.
>be libertarian
>exclaim support for the rights of big business
>get deplatformed to silence you over immigration issues so big business can suppress wages and ethnically cleanse your country of it's middle class work force
Lolberts are idiots, but we both know that.
>comparing a cake to terrorist propaganda
how did these goalposts get over here?
twitter has almost daily threads were people right of Marx are being doxxed for their beliefs.
>I support the notion that if you don’t want to sell something to someone, you should have the right to do.
Sorry, i'm I somehow misunderstanding this sentence?
Being homosexual isn't illegal, inciting violence is illegal.
Sexuality is protected and as such you cannot be denied of a job, service or product based on it; however being a fuckwit who gets all his political views from schizophrenics and bots is not, and as such people and companies are free to associate or not with you.
Cry some more faggot.
>faggot
Yikes, thats a doxxing bro
hope you enjoy being deplatformed you hateful neo-nazi
Absolutely based.
>inciting violence is illegal
That's where you're wrong kiddo
Doesnt cloudflare also run the DNS for the NRA website that gets DDOS on the regular?
>inciting violence is illegal
Tell that to bush.
Report it, call the police, sue them. Stop pretending like Twitter is untouchable and doesn't moderate anything.
>pretending
This method of coping is good for your mental health. Please seek some help before shooting up a school.
Im not pretending, Twitter is untouchable and only moderate right wing opinions. There are literally thousands of jihadist accounts churning propaganda all day long. There are literally thousands of accounts advocating for genital mutilation of children, for the abolition of borders and by extension the law. Hell, there are even accounts that openly advocate for pedophilia.
Get a grip fag
Cringe