Part II I am not Jewish, though I am sure you will accuse me of pretending not to be Jewish very soon, and I would like to open a debate on Jews. For my part, for now, I do not believe that Jews conspire against the world; rather, I am of the opinion that antisemitism in its current form is mental illness, the same that is at the roots of sexism, racism, and other fear-based ideologies. I also believe this comes from humans' natural tendencies to focus on potential dangers, often to a fault.
I have never seen evidence of an actual Jewish conspiracy, or any evidence that the Holocaust did not happen. What I have seen, however, is people rejecting any good argument and evidence on the grounds that some assumed Jewish influence made it up, doctored it, or twisted it somehow, which should be a red flag in terms of reasoning, but does not seem to be for some of you.
ITT: you will try to convince me by testing your arguments, and I will defend Jews.
Keep the kino coming! But the Italians are better at it, sorry.
Samuel Long
Am I supposed to care?
Jose Flores
>any evidence that the Holocaust did not happen We claim it wasn't anywhere near their six million Holodomor projection figure and that they deserved to be rounded up and removed from Europe. Jewish communists murdered tens of millions of Europeans before Hitler came to power.
You don't need Jews to start revolutions. See China. And don't try telling me everything is Marx's fault so it's Jews anyway.
Levi Sullivan
Yeah mate. You're supposed to care. Hitler was one of the only world leaders that called out the jewish nexus in the Kremlin for famining six million Slavs throughout the 1930's.
>We claim it wasn't anywhere near their six million The number has changed throughout history, based on new evidence. It wasn't always 6 million, it was 4 million at one point.
>they deserved to be rounded up and removed from Europe. Why?
>Jewish communists murdered tens of millions of Europeans before Hitler came to power. So, you mean communists? Why the focus on Jewishness so much? if a Jew wipes his ass, is it automatically proof that Jews want to shit all over the world?
Henry Gutierrez
Everyone knows the that the founder and first commander of the Red Army was a jew name Lev Bronstein and that he exterminated at least ten million Europeans. Even Churchill admitted that they not only created the Bolsheviks revolutions but the liberal ones as well.
Once again I will be a prophet: should the international Jewry of finance succeed, both within and beyond Europe, in plunging mankind into yet another world war, then the result will not be a Bolshevization of the earth and the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe. en.wikisource.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler's_Address_to_the_Reichstag_(30_January_1939)
If Churchill said so, then surely he is right. I don't see how this means anything, though. That's like saying Hitler was indeed a white man and he indeed killed a lot of people.
>That didn't happen at all. Partisans got shot and Jews starved, that's it. It happened, though. There's enormous evidence for all of this, including testimonies from Germans themselves. How can you deny the mountains of evidence? The genocide was planned, this is very clear. Numbers were even communicated. We have all this on record, too.
Luis Perez
Show flag mudslim
Jaxon Morgan
>Jews have waged a war of extermination against us for 2,000 years. They want to enslave the entire planet. They are failing horribly then.
Kayden Taylor
Why don't you read the whole speech? He's talking about removing Jewish influence and culture from Europe. Nice try Schlomo.
Dominic Anderson
muh mudshit
kys shlomo no one likes you and you know that
Grayson Moore
At least i can relate to money and brag while u live in a tent in Yemen
Connor Rivera
You mean the no documentation and the confessions of Germans that had their balls tortured beyond belief?
It wasn't anywhere near six million and that's why the Holowhiners sperg out when you ask them to make the case for it. Many Europeans justifiably hated the jewish race, millions were dumped into pits. Hitler would have wiped the jewish race from the planet had he somehow won the war.
>You mean the no documentation and the confessions of Germans that had their balls tortured beyond belief? No, I meant the actual documents and the testimones of Germans who weren't captured. Your only argument is to suggest absolutely every witness that said there was a genocide was lying. It is not rational and I don't know how you can even think this way.
I have also made it quite plain that, if the nations of Europe are again to be regarded as mere shares to be bought and sold by these international conspirators in money and finance, then that race, Jewry, which is the real criminal of this murderous struggle, will be saddled with the responsibility. en.wikisource.org/wiki/My_Political_Testament
All of your responses have been crap. Your a kike.
Julian Morales
This Jewish Bolshevist annihilation of nations and its western European and American procurers can be met only in one way: by using every ounce of strength with the extreme fanaticism and stubborn steadfastness that merciful God gives to men in hard times for the defense of their own lives. Out of this bate a holy will is born to annihilate these destroyers of our existence with all the strength that God has given us. en.wikisource.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler's_Speech_on_the_25th_Anniversary_of_the_National_Socialist_Party_(24_February_1945)
What documentation? The British transcripts that are all typed out that were released within the past 20 years? What testimonies of Germans not captured? Post them? Also why do you ignore all the Jewish and German people that claim no holocaust happened?
Dylan Robinson
>It wasn't anywhere near six million It was, actually.
>Many Europeans justifiably hated the jewish race Why?
>Hitler would have wiped the jewish race from the planet had he somehow won the war. Incorrect. Hitler, had he won the war, would have continued doing what he had started before losing the war: deporting Jews. His original plan was to put them on Madagascar and nothing more. The plan turned to genocide when he realised the war would likely not be won. Killing Jews was a desperate measure on his part, but it had not been the plan and wouldn't have been had he won the war.
Study history before you talk about it.
Jason White
In 1933 Hitler wanted them to migrate to other countries. In 1938 Hitler wanted them to migrate out of Europe. In 1943 Hitler wanted them to migrate to open pits.
Where the hell did you get "We're gonna kill all the Jews" out of that?
Nathan Ross
Any country that falls to such tricks definitely deserves what comes to them. I don't think there are any tricks, but if a handful of Jews can take over like they, they deserve to win and anyone who gets owned by them deserves it too.
Caleb Wood
>many euros hated jewe He is not wrong even before hitler they did Read about Malta
Tyler Torres
Not only do we know precisely what we want, we also know precisely what we do not want. The deceived nations of the Earth may still lack the knowledge they need, but we will bring it to them. How will the Jews stop that in the long run? They believe their power rests on sure foundations, but it stands on feet of clay.
It will not cease before it has reached its goal. The truth cannot be stopped by lies or force. It will get through. The Jews will meet their Cannae by the end of this war. Not Europe, but rather they, will lose.
>Also why do you ignore all the Jewish and German people that claim no holocaust happened? Claiming a negative... Do you seriously not see the problem with it?
>burglary happens >person didn't see it happen >says it didn't happen
Explain how someone would be in any capacity of saying the Holocaust did not happen? It's preposterous. At best, you don't know, but you can't find someone who saw that it didn't happen, for kek's sake.
Anthony Adams
Are you going to at all post where he says he's going to kill all Jews?
Luke Sanchez
>when you glorify the people who died in the coup where you fled like a faggot, letting others die instead of you
Ethan Price
They fear being unmasked, which has in fact become unavoidable and must inevitably come, just as the day follows the night. That explains their raging bursts of hatred against us, which are only the result of their fear and their feelings of inferiority. They are too eager, and that makes them suspicious. International Jewry will not succeed in turning this war to its advantage. Things are already too far along. The hour will come in which all the peoples of the earth will awake, and the Jews will be the victims.
I only asked why. Humans generally dislike differences, especially in those days. It doesn't surprise me, but to think it justifies antisemitism is something else.
With this argument, we could argue that red-haired humans should die because they get bullied in classrooms and therefore a million bullies can't be wrong. It's stupid.
Pic retarded. Any political figure visiting Israel will also visit the wall, which requires you to wear that cap. It means nothing more. But keep acting like this means all these people are servants of Israel and the Eternal Shlomo.
Nicholas Ward
Woah hold on now, don't lump in anti-semitism with racism and sexism. The differences between races and genders are much clearer than those between non-Jewish whites and Jews. The differences still exist but they are very subtle, and there is definitely no "conspiracy".
Jaxon Jones
>person lives in house >doesn't see any burglary or hear anything strange happen at night >his roommate Schlomo swears he was robbed >doesn't notice anything missing >you gotta believe the guy even though you were right next to him when it "happened" >if you say it didn't you're in the wrong LMFAO
Owen Wilson
I don't see how my point suggests a lack in history knowledge, but go right ahead.
Eli Taylor
Jews are the most ethnocentric race on the planet. Their ethnostate even does DNA tests now. The rabbinate forbids intermarriage, it has a monopoly on all covenants.
>are servants of Israel and the Eternal Shlomo. They worship a jewish god and a dead rabbi on a stick. Their holy books were produced entirely by jews. Get it yet?
I'll rephrase in American: you can't see something that didn't happen.
"I saw him not robbing a bank." This can never be used as evidence that no bank robbery happened.
it's like saying "There are no red mushrooms in this forest", you'd have to have seen every single mushroom in the forest to state this. You'd have to have been everywhere relevant to state that no Holocaust happen. If anyone says nothing happened, they just didn't see any of it, and that was most people.
Besides, if it didn't happen, how do you explain the disappearance of millions of Jews?
James Parker
^ Sage this bitch.
Ryan Davis
You're right the islamics are our friends. Fuck the kikes and the christcucks. ROFL.
Your problem is you're getting hung up on there being a "Conspiracy" - some sinister coordinated plan that all or most Jews all secretly in on (possibly involving meetings at midnight with goat's heads, or something).
I suggest something more organic and much less coordinated has happened, and is happening. 1) Jews - for some understandable reasons - have a tendency to be high achievers - to attain positions of power and influence in places like the media, government, academia, entertainment, etc... 2) Jews (outside of Israel in particular) have a tendency to favor social liberalism, diversity, multiculturalism, immigration, pluralism - and to fear homogeneity, particularly white, christian homogeneity - given the Jewish experience in Europe.
Put those two things together in majority-white/European societies, and what you get is Jewish people in positions of power and influence pushing to make those societies less-homogeneous, more-diverse - to attack what many of us Whites consider to be our collective self-interest.
You may have seen this clip before, but if not, this is a perfect example: A dual American-Israeli citizen living in Sweden, working tirelessly for her NGO trying to make Sweden less-Swedish: youtube.com/watch?v=8ERmOpZrKtw (ignore the biased video title, focus on the content)
It's not, "I didn't see him not robbing the bank", it's "no bank robbery happened and I was there all day" are you braindead?
Colton Campbell
There is a law in the Soviet Union that punishes anti-Semitism — or in plain English, public education about the Jewish Question — by death. The expert in these matters is in no way surprised that a leading spokesman for the Kremlin said over the New Year that the Soviet Union would not rest until this law was valid throughout the world. In other words, the enemy clearly says that its goal in this war is to put the total domination of Jewry over the nations of the earth under legal protection, and to threaten even a discussion of this shameful attempt with the death penalty.
>Hitler made the mistake of leaving the beer hall later that night to deal with crises elsewhere in the city. His followers were supposed to take over government buildings throughout Munich but their attempts were largely foiled by the city’s military troops. Meanwhile, Ludendorff had allowed von Kahr and the other two leaders to leave the beer hall after Hitler’s departure. By the next morning, the putsch had fizzled.
Hitler wasn't even present for the coup. >man beside him My ass.
Lincoln Fisher
the jews infiltrated and subverted the religion of moses. Example - testament doesn’t tell u to wear a skull cap when u pray. Read the gospels, Jesus was correct.
Baba Necia 114, 6 Baba Mezia 114a-114b Sanhedrin 59a Kerithuth 6b page 78, Jebhammoth 61a Zohar II, 4b
Jace Perez
Same retarded argument that zionists use for why the situation in Palestine isn't genocide. >If it's a genocide then we must be doing a very poor job. We should unironically nuce Israel off the face of the earth
Gabriel Wood
I don't think all jews conspire to systematically fracture societies at the faults like a mason in a quarry, (EXCEPT for in the very highest echelons of power who do so to keep their influence intact- and is not exclusive to jews) but that almost makes it MORE distressing and seditious... THEY ALL JUST COLLECTIVELY ACT IN THE SAME WAY WHICH IS KNEECAPPING NON JEW CIVILIZATIONS
I suggest you actually look into the numbers of Jews in the world before and after WW2, in Europe too, and also how the number of deaths in one of the "death" camps went from 4.5 million to 800K. Where did those numbers go?
>Woah hold on now, don't lump in anti-semitism with racism and sexism. The same processes are used for all of these: fear, paranoia, cognitive bias, selective bias, projection, persecution. It's the exact same thing and it's no coincidence that they so often are found together in the same people.
Ryder Phillips
>I don't think all jews conspire to systematically fracture societies Nobody blames "all jews". I claim jews are an existential threat and that they've collectively waged a war of extermination against us for 2,000 years.
That'd be fine if nobody else testified to a burglary and if zero evidence was found for it, but that doesn't match the Holocaust: there are countless testimonies and an enormous amount of physical evidence.
If 500 people see the robbery, other people showing up to say nothing happened is laughable, because meaningless. They didn't see it happen, so?
Nicholas Butler
Yes, and you hate them for... doing what you wish you could do.
Carter Reed
>in the Soviet Union There was subbotnik rule - everybody had to work at saturday. USSR was trying to unjew jews > public education about the Jewish Question — by death Where did you get that shit?
Ian Miller
"Islamism" isn't that strong. Consider London: all the Muslim immigrants, most don't keep their faith very long at all in a European context.