Why aren't you voting libertarian?
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because its not 2012
I'm an adult.
>Throw away your vote man
>dude weed
>Democrats and Republicans are the same man
>dude weed
>We need third parties to make a difference
>dude weed
Because they have garbage candidates
>LOLbertarians
>Lets pretend like there's no horde of niggers and spics destroying the country
This pretty much. The LP has been infiltrated and compromised since the Ron Paul revolution showed the establishment it's potential danger.
libertarians need to unite around based Gabbard
If they actually had intelligent candidates then everyone would vote for them, but they just have schizos and meme retards like Gary Johnson who just smoked weed like a dumbass and doesn't know shit
Because libertarians still don't know what a leppo is.
Where are the actual Libertarian candidates? None of those guys conformed to Libertarian viewpoints on anything.
Libertarians are fucking insane. Way more degenerate then the communists.
Because the party is full of retarded not-communists
Because they go too far. Tend to be younger people that are willing to take high risks. First time they fall on their ass and need help, they stop being libertarians.
While I will agree that our current system babysits people way too much. It does encourage people to sit on their asses and not bother putting in effort. Where libertarians lose me is when they want to strip away all safety nets and protections. Trust me; the truly rich will own you completely if that happens.
The standard Libertarian platform right now won't work. You need to find the rational libertarians who understand that the idea of open borders right now is one of the worst decisions. There's a sect of libertarians who are essentially no more than neo-liberals. They crow about GDP and don't give a damn about who gets crushed in the process.
because I don't think 5 year olds should have to pay for their heroin. I think it should be freely provided to them.
freedom is scary to you, because noone will help you when you fuck it up.
would fuck his neck cunt
It's a meme ideology
Ron Paul was amazing
Gary Johnson was ...alright
Scared to see what fucking kook they're going to run this year.
Johnson was trying to tow the libertarian line in a time where the libertarian platform won't work, which is why he lost. The reason why the news could eviscerate him and not Trump is because Trump had a better grasp on issues of the time and could resonate with more people, so it didn't really matter what they said about him.
libertarians are ok with degeneracy and usury.
lobitarians like all rightwingers seem to have a huge problem recognizing the consequences of their ideas
no, we just think that given time and no opportunity to leech off of successful people via a robber's democracy, degeneracy will burn itself down, and the degenerates will either change themselves or die in the streets.
the government's job is to protect the rights of the citizens, not be your morality mommy.
>he's gonna try voting again '
good luck with that, bro
so you're against helping the losers in society
I think corporations need to be regulated and put under check and balance, just as much as the government. That's my issue with them. They think giving corporations free reign will lead to a utopia, but it will only lead to a different flavor of authoritarianism.
Every libertarian argument I've heard has been stripping the benefits of government away from corporations so they're forced to compete on an equal footing with other businesses. I've never once heard a libertarian in support of monopoly.
because they don't recognizing the consequences of their ideas.
I'm against letting the rot spread into fresh meat.
Because pic related.
so yes?
this libertarian recognizes that capitalism will never work perfectly in a finite system, and our technologies of communication and centralization have far outstripped our spread as a species. If we want to save capitalism we need other planets to serve as competitive markets, to produce companies to compete with those on earth.
>why aren't you voting libertarian?
Because I took econ 101 in college.
>protect rights of citizens without morality
What are they going to protect then?
The libertarian party was taken over by retards who aren't real libertarians. Either a hit job by the deepstate or just happened organically? Don't think it matters either way.
The problem is, real libertarian politics will get you called sexist, racist, fascist in a hurry. So most of the real old school libertarians just turned to ancaps and fractured into small non political communities (because they saw how futile it would be to get up on the stage just to be called hitler by SJW's and the media).
a good example that debunks libertarian argument is the predatory capitalism in Latin America. Bolivia before the socialist government was under neoliberal control and in the midst of privatization. I believe 2-3 companies bought all the water in bolivia and sold it back to Bolivians at an extorted price.
Libertarians dont even think monopolies are a problem.
there are no free markets in the real world
What consequences are those? How is the governmental regulation re have now somehow more preferable to competitive laissez-faire markets that leverage human tendency against each other?
I expected a funny video, not some yammering bitch going on for 5 minutes
Open borders faggot
I am all for private charity, I just think we ought not rob people to do it, because private charity can cut you off if you are obviously abusing the system, like nigresses popping out as many niglets as possible to collect all those sweet sweet gibs. also fuck the captcha is taking me forever.
Every time some retard thinks of a monopoly they can't fathom divorcing government power away from that idea even when asked to and come up with the most ridiculous shit.
Not even getting into contract law and all that entails in terms of monopolies being able to operate in established communities.
>tfw ypu vote libertarian on every election and your libertarian friends hide off in the woods
yet.
humanity will eventually outpace our markets when we become space-rabbits and fuck like there's no tomorrow.
Hoppean here. Libertarianism is incompatible with democracy.
What's a leppo?
I doesn't matter what flavor or pretense, I don't vote at all voting is the religion of the wisdomless. US Voting is FAKE and entirely run out of Tel Aviv. Anyone who votes is always a blithering idiot who thinks they know everything. Why would I want to be associated with niggers, faggots, Israel and gay sex. Fcuk yourself dude, you're nothing but another pussy.
Libertarians are just liberals who hate taxes.
Every single real libertarian ever has said you cannot have a welfare state + open borders.
Libertarians ARE open borders, but only when there is no welfare state and freedom of association is upheld (you can exclude anyone for any reason from your business or property). So in that sense open borders as in if someone or a community wants to let Mexicans in they should be able to.
no they're republicans that don't wanna be associated with republicans
Because it is a retarded idea, and I've never met one who wasn't an asshole.
just more extreme
THIS GODDESS WAS MADE FOR FUCKING CUM
I don't even know where to start.
you'd allow anyone to carry a gun?
I've been doing it. Fuck off!
>you'd allow anyone to carry a gun?
Yeah, pretty much.
holy shit, i went to bring up this debate and found this video of the debate between the top three libertarians, and here's a side by side of the moderator and one of the candidates.
is this the libertarian look?
if one of your idiotic policies got some kids killed it be open season on you then?
Unfortunately true. I did like Austin Petersen... he seemed to at least be true to Libertarian principles, unlike Gary Johnson.
McAfee is a fucking opportunist who stood at a podium and berated libertarians for all being white men. Dude's part of the compromised state of that party.
LIbertarians believe in persona freedom, which also comes with personal responsibility. If we all have the same exact freedoms and opportunities, I suppose blaming others wouldn't work so well.
Policies like what? Policies like letting people drive on highways? That gets a lot of people killed as well. Letting people Drink? How about scarf Big Macs? Did you know heart disease is one of the leading causes of death in western countries?
In other words, your reasoning is divorced from reality and would just wind up putting everyone in padded faraday cages.
maybe letting any idiot carry a gun
even a jury might agree it was self defence because the policy was so dangerous
You seem to me to be an idiot. Why shouldn't we keep you from driving a car or using knives?
>even a jury might agree it was self defence
?? Self-defense in what situation?
shooting a politician because the policies were too dangerous
Immigration policy.
I thought you were talking about shooting children? If there is a politician that is blatantly ordering the violation of natural rights, then it wouldn't surprise me or disturb me to any significant degree that they were shot. In fact, I think that in such a situation, a jury SHOULD exonerate that shooter.
if a politician allowed any idiot to have a gun and those idiots started shooting people down in the streets it might seem rational to a lot of people to shoot that politician
And that person would be wrong - because the fundamental root of morality is natural rights. Attempting to deprive someone of their natural rights is grounds for being stopped with force. Shooting someone for NOT stripping others of natural rights is not grounds for use of force.
That's why the first shooter is operating from a logical morality and the second is not. That's the difference.
it could be seen as self defence tho
No it couldn't.
I guess that would be up to the jury but the politician would be dead
For starters, killing the politician that enforced the policy of letting people have the right to bear arms wouldn't actually remove any guns from the streets, so any deaths resulting from that policy wouldn't stop. Secondly, the person doing the shooting clearly isn't under immediate danger of being killed or injured by the politician, which is a necessary characteristic of self-defense in this situation.
And just because a jury decides something doesn't mean it's right or well-reasoned.
Because it's astrology for men.
so?
30 seconds of video
40 minutes of cringy commentary
i just wanted to laugh at libertarians not cringe at self-important libs
So... whats the point you're trying to make? That juries are sometimes idiotic?
>muh capitalism
>probably points to Germany or Sweden as examples of such
Why cant they just say welfare state? Isnt that the term they use in Europe?
>what is Aleppo?
Other than the fact that Libertarians tend to know fuck-all about foreign policy:
First-past-the-post election systems result in a two party system under every mathematical model in which they've been studied. You're throwing your vote into the garbage, if you vote for a third party. You're better off picking the side that aligns with your views the most, and trying to steer it in a better direction from within.
what is this trash, TYT finally gets to libertarians circa 2016, they should try watching their own Hillary shill videos, their election night video is a classic.
It was a fake debate with paid actors to purposefully make libertarians look bad. Nothing about that was legitimate.
t b h I probably will
the libertarians are undermined by progressives who see their progressive values as liberty. A liberty to chop off your dick or transgender your kid, or burden society with your fucking drug habit and homelessness.
Real libertarians believe in crazy shit like human trafficking and slavery. The NAP is just bullshit and you are only breaking it if you get caught.
Because libertarians are just autistic liberals
>barely any highlights from the debate
>its just some dumb bitch babbling
0/10
Libertarians don't understand freedom. Freedom and morals go hand in hand. Without one you can't have the other and morals imply a set of basic rules to follow to maintain freedom and morality. A country where anyone can do whatever they want because of "muh liberty" would collapse faster than a dry sandcastle. I'm more of a more of a monarchist myself but not based on bloodline. Removing term limits on the president and giving him slightly more power would suffice.
Because thinking the rich will save us is as stupid as thinking the government will save us
>A country where anyone can do whatever they want because of "muh liberty"
This isn't what a libertarian society would look like. Parts, perhaps, but the society at large would be conservative, because people not behaving like stupid niggers is good for business and raises property values.
AND the people who DO behave like stupid niggers have no safety net to save them from their consequences.
dictator that's the same thing isn't it.
libertarians say they want freedom but they don't look to their neighbours.
they do have a safety net, they band together and take your shit. Look at the IQ charts, the majority of people are sub-100s and only a small percentage are 125+.
Do you really think nuckle-draggers wont band together to take your shit. Might is right, nigga. It's more true than anything else in this world. A high-minded libertarian ruling class is just asking for revolution.
it seem like they want some elite capitalist or something to give them freedom