The state will inevitably fail at some point, like it or not, you either repeat history or go forward

Those mutts can down in their own mud

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I'M SO FUCKING HUNGRY

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I'm sorry edgelords but I am voting Rupert Murdoch in the 2020 U.S. Presidential Election for the rise of political nihilism. I am a neutral party in this endeavor and for the alphabet government agencies looking at this post right now, I don't know what the fuck is going on, I am very confused. I just believe in love and freedom for all humanity. Thank you. May science and technology reign, death to all of you incels. Inshallah, we shall retake the Holy Land. And I love you too OP, I love everyone. I'm an impartial person who treats everyone equally. This includes but not limited to; traps, females, males, gay men, people who identify as attack helicopters, all of you. Atheism is the third way.

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>political nihilism
no country is neutral you sheep, there is no thing as political nihilism, you cant be a nihilist when you become part of an organization which means of existance depend on faith and violence

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Go back to making pornogrind with your incel buddies and shooting up places.

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>Go back to making pornogrind with your incel buddies and shooting up places.

That is too specific to be an insult

I have no idea what you are talking about but good for you I guess

news.vice.com/en_us/article/j5yekp/exclusive-dayton-shooter-was-in-a-pornogrind-band-that-released-songs-about-raping-and-killing-women

Funny how most mass shootings are done by conservatives, wont get far into it, either way he wasnt even an anarchist.

I just cant figure out how you thinking process works, sure what you said would be an insult if that was a common misdeed made by leftwingers but its totally the opposite.

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I know /leftypol/ got thrown into the dustbin with the rest of r*dditchan, but can you take your hegelian dialectic meme arguments somewhere else?

I have that fish on my wall

Incidentally, he was a professed leftist, so you're wrong again regardless.

>The account, which has now been removed by the social media site, shows a picture of a left-wing anarchist and malcontent, according to Heavy.com.
>pro-Satan ‘leftist’ who despised Donald Trump
thesun.co.uk/news/9657515/ohio-gunman-connor-betts-dayton-twitter/

Cope harder, incel.

This is why nihilism will triumph over anarchism because it is impartial unlike you misogynist, xenophobic, homophobic, transphobic, racist left-wingers. Neutrality feels good mane.

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>"anarchist" incel makes one mass shooting
>lemme use tiss as an inzult
>doesnt know what direct action means
>This is why nihilism will triumph over anarchism
>Thinks nihilism can build some type of societal system

Know what strawmanning means little fella?

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I see that you are not a fan of President Murdoch?

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first of all incel principles arent compattible with anarchism, second of all Connor Betts was not pacticing any type of direct action

man you are retarded, why dont you leave your kindergarden insult and give an actual argument

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nihilism:the rejection of all religious and moral principles, in the belief that life is meaningless.

That is only applicable within the individual retard, there is no way you will give meaning to a movement which makes everything meaningless, thats what political ideologies are for, they follow some certain type of moral or religious principle

>give an actual argument
Anarchism isn't an serious political philosophy you child, there hasn't been a single goddamn society on this earth that has functioned properly for a long enough time to be taken seriously.

>Anarchism isn't an serious political philosophy you child, there hasn't been a single goddamn society on this earth that has functioned properly for a long enough time to be taken seriously.

Ok support your argument

this. Fuck the other guy

opinion*

Anarchy would result in a power vacuum with political terrorist organizations, gangs, mafias, overseas imperialist forces and mass murderers to take over while you scrawny edgy teenagers will just be eliminated on sight. Government always has been and will be the primary force of the stability of civilization, even in its inconsistencies.

Yes but we should go backwards instead of forward's imagine living 3000 year's ago in northern Europe that is what we should aspire towards

that is still an opinion

Well that and it's more likely than not a new government would just end up arising from the anarchy anyway. Shit's a hilariously retarded ideology.

Anprim?

Why?

How?

Give facts ffs I dont care how you feel about anarchy

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Münchhausen_trilemma
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_skepticism#Epistemology_and_skepticism

Whatever dude, all arguments can lead into nowhere. That's why I started with the absurdist premise of a Murdoch presidency. If you want 'evidence' or the closest to objective and empirical evidence then you can stop here; libcom.org/history/historical-failure-anarchism

This is from an anarchist website so you can't say it is from an alt-right neo-nazi white supremacist publication. Have fun kid, don't shoot up a school or anything. And please just enjoy life nigga, GODDAMN. Leave the internet and get a girlfriend.

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Actually most mass shootings are done by shitskins, but communists are retarded lying scumbags, and thus they will intentionally ignore or hide the truth for their own perceived gain.

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well that was a sad response, good night

You realise creating a power vacuum such as anarchy will inevitably give rise to ambition, and you meme land will come to a swift end assuming it hasn’t been invaded by the nearest statist nation to begin with.

>the state will inevitably fail
>so lets give the state massive power over its citizens
why are commies so fucking stupid

if by shitskins you mean non whites well I must tell you that being a non white doesnt equal being liberal

>so lets give the state massive power over its citizens
Kek what the hell are you talking about?

I never said it did. You said that most mass shootings are done by conservatives, and I clearly showed you that was not the case, and the only reason you would say such a thing is either because your ignorant or your lying.

Every attempt at achieving communism results in an authoritarian socialist system that never makes the transition to communism, probably because the men in charge obviously don’t want to give up power or the communist goal is not achievable or a combination of both.

Talking about people who kill people based on political views

He's talking about the end of chapter 2 of the communist manifesto, where Marx raves about a series of totalitarian measures that must be taken like the government controlling ALL transportation and communication(including things like your car, and if properly implemented, your phone and your computer) and then Marx just says that the government will eventually wither because... Well, he never explained how that would happen. He just claimed it did. Like people in power would just suddenly give it up. Also, the state is not the government, the government is a part of the state. The state includes all cultural and social activity outside government as well. So when Marx says tear down the state, this is why commutards ban religion, businesses and private enterprises, means of production, private farms if they're too large: everything not under government control. The goal for Marx is to have complete government control over everything, nothing outside the government, and then eventually hope that the government implodes. The end result would be the ceasing of all human social functions, by the way.

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>Every attempt at achieving communism results in an authoritarian socialist system
first of al that is still an opinion
second of all what does my flag mean?

Ok thats your opinion, roll up the quote and the facts

Actually that is when it has succeded. Do you even Lenin? Authoritarian state is the engame of communism and that is based.

Either way who told you Im a statist communist retard

Ever heard of ancom?

Well, you would know all about that, wouldn’t you?

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I have and it has absolutely NOTHING to do with com.

Actually a small Republic state without parties, private banks and megacorporations is technically anarchy. Get the fuck out of here with your punk song fueled memes about "no state, no whatever, no this, no that".

It’s not an opinion if it’s occurred literally every single time it’s been tried, and your flag is merely a meme.

I just told you where to find it. It's the last two pages at the end of chapter 2.... You have read it, haven't you?
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/pdf/Manifesto.pdf
>Of course, in the beginning, this cannot be effected except by means of DESPOTIC inroads on the rights of property
>When, in the course of development, class distinctions have disappeared, and all production has been concentrated in the hands of a vast association of the whole nation, the public power will lose its political character.

So there you have it. For whatever reason, he failed to predict that public power is ultimately funneled through strict and very tightly wound hierarchies. It would be impossible to operate on a country level involving the population sizes we have today, with the technology we have today, in such a manner. Especially given the need for oversight and executive authority just to get daily things done.

Marx, dirty filthy jew.

Yeah what about Pinochet, Franco, Hitler, Mussolini, Dwight D. Eisenhower etc etc

If you arent a statist communist you arent communist. Your some armchair know nothing retard fart sniffer trustafarian. You probably like Bookchin ROFL. Good luck with your anarcho youth country movement degenerate SODOMITE.

stop avoiding reason and support you opinions ffs, you dont even know what my fucking flag means!

Exactly. The man says that despotic means are needed to achieve the system, then just hand waves the fact it can't be reversed.

opinions

scared of research?

What about them? All vastly more based than you. Mussolini was a staunch revolutionary socialist you know that right? You think the communist revolution is to enact anarcho communism? Your some kind of moron.

I assume your referring to Fascism, and in that case only Hitler, and Mussolini could be regarded as such, the rest are just your average military dictators, and a democratic president for some reason.

Political violence is almost certainly necessary, the degree of which depends on a number of factors, but no Fascist has ever went on the assumption that Fascism could be achieved without pain, let’s be realistic, it’s inevitable that people will disagree with you, and start shit, all you can do is try to wipe them out quickly with as few innocents getting caught up in the mess as possible.

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>Mussolini was a staunch revolutionary socialist you know that right?

kek, good joke

>You think the communist revolution is to enact anarcho communism

Ok ill make it easy, how does communal control over the means of poduction contradict the fight against unjust hirearchies when it can be executed at a non state level

Your flag means nothing, a memory, dust in the wind, it is merely a symbol of a transition from something to something else, that brief moment of anarchy, that’s all, nothing more.

Franco was a dogmatic asshole which dissipated leftwing movements with violence and restabloished some parto of the monarchy

Pinochet was a neofascist libertarian, he executed multiple massacres and instigated violence againt leftwing movements and worker unions, ever heard of la junta?

Dwight D. Eisenhower targeted supected communist and made a purge campaighn against them.

How is that not political may I ask?

kek keep trying britfag

Do you really think marx is socialist?

Yea yea yea, but what about removing jews, secret societies, priate banks and megacorporations you absolute faggot?

>jews, secret societies, priate banks and megacorporations you absolute faggot?

jews?

>The end of history is, alas, also the end of the dustbins of history. There are no longer any dustbins for disposing of old ideologies, old regimes, old values. Where are we going to throw Marxism, which actually invented the dustbins of history? (Yet there is some justice here since the very people who invented them have fallen in.) Conclusion: if there are no more dustbins of history, this is because History itself has become a dustbin. It has become its own dustbin, just as the planet itself is becoming its own dustbin.

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Luk at dat skulpture, cuz!!!
Karl Marx WUZ a black man!!!
WE WUZ COMUNISTS AN SHEEEEIIIIT

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Just because someone hates communists does not make them fascist you imbecile, Franco was an opportunistic scumbag dictator with a hard on for monarchy, no fascist, riviera was definitely a Fascist, but he was unfortunately killed at the beginning of the civil war, and his movement died with him, killing the communists in Spain.

Pinochet was just another dictator supported by the capitalist, and Zionist world, capitalist to the core, no Fascist.

Eisenhower was a Democratically elected president, and I sure as fuck wouldn’t consider his actions to be fascist.

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You must know fuck all about Mussolini lmao. Here is just from his wiki but really you should read a real biography to understand the man. Dont even bother though you clearly don't understand the development of socialiasm and just want to LARP around as a modern pointlessly colored connectionless flag. Throw up the hammer and sickle or your a pussy bitch that doesnt deserve to have communism anywhere associatrd with you even in "ancom" bullshit,

"He had become one of Italy's most prominent socialists. In September 1911, Mussolini participated in a riot, led by socialists, against the Italian war in Libya. He bitterly denounced Italy's "imperialist war", an action that earned him a five-month jail term.[36] After his release, he helped expel Ivanoe Bonomi and Leonida Bissolati from the Socialist Party, as they were two "revisionists" who had supported the war."

Constant revolution

It is bakunin you mongoloid

never said they were fascist just rightwing

>who?
Pretty much these two, and digits confirm. You are a faggot OP, and these anons are actually pretty cool people by taking their time to discuss stuff with someone who seems to be a child, or at least seems to have the discernment of one. Anarcho-libertarianism is actually a pretty modern concept in a sense that it starts to make sense right until know when a global government seems to be taking totalitarian control and conventional third positionism has been torn asunder by the narrative of the stablishment.

>socialiasm

Also this is from wikipedia too

"Benito Amilcare Andrea Mussolini (/ˌmʊsəˈliːni/, also US: /ˌmuːs-/, Italian: [beˈniːto mussoˈliːni];[1] 29 July 1883 – 28 April 1945) was Prime Minister of the Kingdom of Italy from the fascists' takeover of state power in 1922 until 1943, and Duce from 1919 to his execution in 1945 during the Italian civil war. As dictator of Italy and founder of fascism, Mussolini inspired several totalitarian rulers such as Adolf Hitler."

anarco libertarianism?

You have to be fucking joking? Go on to YouTube, and watch a decent length biography of the man because I know full well you won’t read anything about him, what age are you? If you knew about him,

*if you knew anything about socialism, you would notice straight away that he is named after several famous socialists, you must be wondering why, go find out, and then we can discuss him.

He founded fascism, his previous ideologies have no importance to the fact that his regime has nothing close to socialism

benito juarez wanst socialist, you dont even know what socialism is

By your logic he should be liberal because he was named after a social democrat,

Well had a good rant, you may be having breakfast but at this part of the world I should be sleeping, have a nice morning britfag

How is that neoliberal austerity with Protestant characteristics treating you? In a few years you would come to find those images as humanities squandered hopes. Not just you but many others too.

Going "forward" is just another way of repeating history.

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He WUZ in DA Bakunin tribe??? Dats wuzzup! We seazed DA meanz of produktion drum ya prolatariot crakkkaz