Can someone tell me about natsoc? Why did it make germany become such a power house...

Can someone tell me about natsoc? Why did it make germany become such a power house? If it turned germany from ruin to one of the "greatest" (i dont know who was the greatest at the time) nations at the time, why havn't more country's tried natsoc? Is it because of the jews? I dont know much about the other eccon types apart from capitialism and communism. But i've tried reading about germany during natsoc a lot more and it seemed pretty good. Is it been good just propaganda?

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it's basically communism without jews

Ever since my peace proposal of July 1940 was rejected, we have clearly realized that this struggle must be fought through to the end. We are not at all surprised that the Anglo-American, Jewish and capitalist world is united together with Bolshevism. In our country we have always found them in the same community. Alone we successfully fought against them here in Germany, and after 14 years of struggle for power we were finally able to annihilate our enemies.
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ok guys, this is good but what made it so successful? If it was so successful why havnt other nations done the same?

>Why did it make germany become such a power house?
I think the discovery of Methamphetamine did far more to do that. Which the Nazis started taking because it was viewed as a "super drug" because it made you stay up as long as you wanted without needing to rest. Blitzkreig was viewed similarly as a really short term strategy that worked initially but wasn't useful at all long term. It's hard to view the country at the time as a "powerhouse" as much as it was on a sugar high that was inevitably going to crash.

Im not really interested in the war side, more of the econ and industry side. From what i've learned before hitler german was like one of those third world places where you need stacks of paper just for a bread loaf. How did he turn it from that into a country able to rival multiple countrys around him in such a short time? Its understandable to believe that the works also did meth and thats how it came along so fast, but meth alone cant turn shit to good.

More to do with 'total war' than Natsoc, think revolutionary France.

I believe this is a heavy factor as well, a common goal to force people to unite to and work for can bring a nations industry to a higher amount by alot. I know because wasnt america also a meh country before the war, and during the war the industry sky rocketed.

The use of meth in the 3rd Reich is overrated. Soldiers were certainly using it, but doctors "suspected" pretty soon that it was an addictive drug and asked the government to restrict access for normal citizens. Imagine that, ethical doctors speaking out against big pharma products...

Historically, japs discovered meth not the nazis. But the nazis improved it.

>If it turned germany from ruin to one of the "greatest" (i dont know who was the greatest at the time) nations at the time, why havn't more country's tried natsoc?

Germany was already great before it went full natsoc and ruined itself with it.

It only worked for the time because there was a rich scape goat on which the germans could blame all their misfortune and simultanously loot the living shit out of them while the government reigned with brutality and fear.

>How did he turn it from that into a country able to rival multiple countrys around him in such a short time?
Hitler did a lot of things like he imposed a lot of tariffs and privatized a lot of previously public industry. They also maintained a lot of slave labor in concentration camps (which eventually became 1/4th of the workforce for Nazi Germany).
Considering Hitler took it right up until he committed suicide I doubt that did a lot of good. The use of the drug was pretty widespread and led to the Allies researching their own super drug which led to the discovery of Amphetamines.

Lurk moar communism is nothing like national socialism.
Watch the greatest story never told for starters.

>Germany was already great before
Im still new to all this, so forgive me if im wrong.
But germany had land taken by the french. Germany's econ was in a horried state. Germany was sort of devided? Im not sure aboout that or how that was working out. Germany didnt start world war 1, but still got full blame and full punishment, after that germany was it total ruins and shits, it was in massive dept. Can you please explain how germany was great compared to other great nations at the time? No offence, again i am new to this and dont have knowledge on the subject as much.

You doubt he did a lot of good, yet was voted the most influencial man by time. Was it propaganda then? Where the things he did do good not as good, or where they mostly boasted out of reality?

>You doubt he did a lot of good, yet was voted the most influencial man by time. Was it propaganda then?
He was voted the most influential man by Time in 1938, a year before WW2. If you singlehandedly reversed the German economy and turned it back into a powerhouse you'd probably also have been seen as an influential figure.

What about my points above that one, are they wrong? Are they french propaganda lying about the poor state germany was in? Can you also explain how germany was back then and what made it a power house? thank you.

>He was voted the most influential man by Time in 1938
Question leaf had you actually read the magazine?
A lot of the shit in there didn't say nice things about hitler.

Your mostly correct aussie.

Roman salutes should not be banned.

A roman salute was borrowed by that hipster Hitler.
Hail Reich 1

No. Like i said im very new to this, im just kind of fascinated about how he turned germany into such a power house. I want to truely learn if its true or not, and if it is true why havn't other nations followed suit. I understand hitler was a horried man, and made terrible choices. Some of his ideas are stupid too, like wanting a "vegiterian" future. But its hard (from my current pov) to see how he didnt turn germany into a "power house"

As yes, the talk of romans. Im also heavily interested in this. Was germany once part of the SQPR, or whatever it was called? The Roman Empire. Is that why germany became so patriotic during the hitler era?

No and no Marxian socialism and national socialism are two completely separate thing's National socialist economics is corporatism and the name national socialism was just a way of branding fascism and corporatism to a northern european audience. So national socialism has been tried in many countries just not under the same name.

Oh! Can you tell me what countrys? I havn't seen any countrys boom like germany during its time. Is it because there is no war machine to push the people? Or did they fail as nations? Or is natsoc not as good as it seemed? Like communisim. Which is apparently good on paper, but dosnt work in real life.

>vegiterian" future.
He didn't, he is vegan because he had a fucked up stomach.
I suggest watching the greatest story never told and Europa final battle.

the germans stopped complaining and started working. they laced their workboots, walked into a store and asked the manager for a job. the germans have the firmest handshakes in the world which helped immensely. they were all hired on the spot

Part of it was Adolf borrowing money he didn't think he'd have to pay back. Or that he'd pay back through war gains.

It's all on the search engine friend.
I suggest going to duckduckgo and then looking up stormfront for book recommendations.

Adolf didn't borrow money quit falling for misinfo you double digit iq retard.

i already use duckduckgo after the hole google is rigging searches situation. Thank you for the recommended read.Oh i see, i was told he envisioned a veterinarian future. Thank you for the suggested videos.

Was it not hitler then, but the german peoples will to be great? If another leader came along, with different values and ideals but the same dream of germany as hitler did, would the workers still lace their workboots, would germany still become a great nation?

Every shithole country and Banana Republic has a similar kind of government.
The only difference was jews loosing their grip for a while just to motivate the goyim (but they jewed Germany even harder later). You are a bunch of stupid rednecks worshipping (ashke)nazis.

>You are a bunch of stupid rednecks worshipping (ashke)nazis.
Are you jewish yourself? I dont care for nazi's at all, although i do have strong opinions abuot jews. Im interested in national socialism, not the nazi party.
Do you believe other countrys with natsoc dont rise like germany because of jews? Im honestly fairly confused by your post.

No, it wasn't. Communism is publicly owned (be it state, or local) and socialized production for need. How did the Nazis generate an "economic upturn"?
Privatization, deficit spending, MeFo leveraged against future conquests.

"Between 1933 and 1939 the total revenue of the German government amounted to 62 billion Reichsmarks, whereas government expenditure (up to 60% of which consisted of rearmament costs) exceeded 101 billion, thus causing a huge deficit and rising national debt (reaching 38 billion marks in 1939)."

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Can you explain this to me? Are you saying germany was lendef money, or that germany's industry wasn't as good as it seems?

So to you germany was in dept by the time ww2 came along? And if so wasn't germany already in dept before ww2? So when ww2 started germany was in double dept?

Sorry if im been confusing.

Yes, I think they were in Versailles debt which was eventually defaulted on. The Nazi government was essentially indebting itself to fund both rearmament and economic reconstruction against the prospect of indebting other nations under war treaties, with conquested territories/treasuries

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How did this effect germany after world war 2? Is germany still in dept? If not how did germany repay the dept without falling back into the horried econ state it was in before hand.

Could the depts possibly of been written off in exchange for other things if it has been "paid off"?

>hey can someone answer my post which is the 7th time today alone this question has been asked in one form or another? I promise this time I really just want to get to the bottom of the third Reich once and for all

Verpiss dich und atme Gas du Jude.

First time posting on pol, i dont come here often, sorry.

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Sure it is

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Lol

>Can someone tell me about natsoc? Why did it make germany become such a power house?
The Nazis were Satanists. Hitler made a pact with Father Satan, there is even a document on a Russian site.
I would post a long to the JoS but it's down. What a cohencidence.

Read Hilter's revolution it's explaince nearly everything that happend in gigantic detail.
In short Hitler made programms that united the poeple. Hitler made worker reforms: having a break room for workers, yearly vacation, better pay and some more.
Hitler made it's economy and nation recover so fast because they made their money backed by arbeit. Which makes poeple overall more productive and makes the economy the ultimate form of autarky.
The reason for not outside nations having natsoc is because it was massively banned or absolutly bombarded by the press.
The propaganda is more about unity among the poeple than trust in the führer.
I hope this helps.

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Because of jews finanancing the operation and backing hitler.

Im sure he did. :)

Il give this a read, im still reading . Also im asuming the "press" thats bombarding it is also run by jews? I've read a lot about how the jews started the war against germany because the jews could do nothing to control germany and squeese it for coins anymore and the more im learning about how natsoc worked the more i can understand why. And the more i learn about jewish controlling media and press the more i understand why germany is so hated and why i've never learned about anything about natsoc and germany before.

>The reason for not outside nations having natsoc is because it was massively banned or absolutly bombarded by the press. The propaganda is more about unity among the poeple than trust in the führer. I hope this helps.

This is great. Unity among the people is also fascinating to me, as most of the things i've learned from others or in school said hitler was the main cause, and that everyone united for him and their trust in him.

This is explained by this post. Although if you're right, why would jews back a country thats (before the whole gas the jews thing) instating a econ that is heavily anti jew.

Wait never mind, im reading more of the post i mentioned which explains why.

Foreign loan money, war broke out because germany couldn't repay it.

Good goy, how could anyone believe that the jewish elite backed hitler?

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I do belived they backed hitler. I believe they didnt think hitler would reform germany.

Yes, germany not repaying money was why war was delcared. I also believe this been a very big reason.

The point of backing him was to cause ww2, rich jews would happily sell out their own kind and everyone else if it means some kind of profit.

> Also im asuming the "press" thats bombarding it is also run by jews? I've read a lot about how the jews started the war against germany because the jews could do nothing to control germany and squeese it for coins anymore and the more
It's a touchy subject with jews because it has not alot of information on jews back then with press influence.
On the matter of propaganda
Hilter's policie was about converting your fellow man to your cause. That's why Hitler only killed the leader/extremist of the communist and converted the rest.
Out of the 26 propaganda poster I have saved 3 are about Hitler, 8 are about the format Struggle/Cause/Meaning > Work/NSDAP/Family
The rest are military posters work posters and NSDAP promotion posters.
Overall everybody of your race is worth saving and don't leave one person behind.

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There own kind? Are you saying theres like different factions among the jews? I always thought they were one collective.

They probably did. That's what they do, they finance wars and revolutions. They did it with the French Revolution and with Napoleon who they didn't control. The Jacobins were the proto bolsheviks but Napoleon stopped their power on France. Have you wondered why Napoleon is always featured as a madman thirsty for power?
Do Frenchmen like him?

read wages of destruction

>Im sure he did. :)
Nice cope

To be honest, saving everybody of your race and not leaving people behind seems like a really good goal. I think it could be applied everywhere if you replace "your own race" with "your fellow man". I like to think of where we would be space and technology wise if earth was united under 1 banner and striving for a common goal. (like space exploration and terraforming)
Although i do see how "converting your fellow man to your cause" could be heavily misused. Like how the far left in america is going, converting people to the far left and all.
Also the lie about him been a small person. Although to be honest, i always thought napoleon as a great conqueror.
Ill add it to the list, thank you.

In the six years between the Fascist victory in Germany and the outbreak of war, Nazism erected a system of production, distribution
and consumption that defies classification in any of the usual categories. It was not capitalism in the traditional sense: the autonomous
market mechanism so characteristic of capitalism during the last two
centuries had all but disappeared. It was not State capitalism: the
government disclaimed any desire to own the means of production,
and in fact took steps to denationalize them. It was not socialism or
communism: private property and private profit still existed. The
Nazi system was, rather, a combination of some of the characteristics
of capitalism and a highly planned economy. Without in any way
destroying its class character, a comprehensive planning mechanism
was imposed on an economy in which private property was not expropriated, in which the distribution of national income remained
fundamentally unchanged, and in which private entrepreneurs retained some of their prerogatives and responsibilities in traditional
capitalism

Just how retarded are you? It's the same with any other grouping of people. Rich jews used the opportunity to gain even more power and influence.

A system like this on paper works great, and it acts great if this is how hitler brought germany to power. Or how hitler helped with this to bring Germany to power. Im kind of let down or disappointed that other nations dont try this and fight for there freedom to do so.

Like i said, im pretty new to this and i dont know much about it. Although i can believe this and it makes alot of sense.

There's different kinds of asians, europeans and africans. It's the same with politics, the "left" and "right" aren't united groups, of course there's different factions. Why would jews be any different?

Think of Free Markets within your own borders.
Tariffs on ALL non allied nations.
Socialism for all white people who pay into it.

It's essentially a libertarian nations with militarization.

I've never really thought about it. I believe you are right.

A similar thing happened with ww1, a group of english businessmen and politicians wanted to prevent germany from gaining access to oil in the middle east.

>Source: [60: 358].
What kind of source is that retard?

Me too. However, I'm a spiritual man. I know in my heart that Germany's rise to power back in the 30's was meant to happen. There was so much darkness rising. From that, the sun rose for about 12 years, free from the vices that currently enslave us now. It was a glimmer of something we could have, even if it was but a fleeting moment. There's a reason why it was all shut down, those who do dark deeds to gain for themselves off of the exploitation of others(pure capitalism and marxism in general) wish to remain in the dark so they can continue to do their dealings with devils and evil spirits. Though what is done in the dark will be brought to the light; the truth that they so desperately wish to conceal from us will be revealed very soon.

this is objectively false. there are several experts who give tangible evidence for the contrary. Otto Nathan and Adam Tooz both highlight this. The former writing a book not too long into the 2nd world war, and the later releasing his work in 2008.

Yes. I've read about what germany was becoming before hitler. The movie theatres and plays that were showing at the time are kind of shocking standing from a religious view point.

Why didn't others try? Because of the kikes, that's why. NatSoc is the only based and redpilled system to exist in modern times, so it needed to be eradicated, and that's what the kikes did.

>Why did it make germany become such a power house?
The power of positivity
>why havn't more country's tried natsoc?
because good thoughts dont overcome the material realities

Yes, i also believe this to be a big reason. The jews hate natsoc because they cant abuse natsoc to become rich and powerful, and that why they want it shut down.

not just germany, america and russia as well: the roaring 20's were the start of the party culture we see now, and the bolsheviks drenched themselves in the slaughter of the innocent. It's ironic Britain wanted to stop Germany's so called "conquest" because they were coming off the high of their own empirical expansion. They all sold their souls to the rothschilds, all of whom established banks in each of those countries and had a hand in giving financial aid to the bolshevik revolution.

We'll have to raze the earth in order to uproot the parasites using our nations as lapdogs.

I mean imperial expansion. not empirical... fuck me I'm a retard

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Yes. Seeing what America is today, with groups such as Antifa and such a large push for LGBT issues. I think people should be free to be who they want to be. But if they want to be who they want to be, they shouldnt impose it on others. If they want to be something that effects others, they shouldnt.

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>"Between 1933 and 1939 the total revenue of the German government amounted to 62 billion Reichsmarks, whereas government expenditure (up to 60% of which consisted of rearmament costs) exceeded 101 billion, thus causing a huge deficit and rising national debt (reaching 38 billion marks in 1939)."
Your just quoting Wikipedia, I have not seen a single bit of evidence, not even stats, for that claim.

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Anyways, who would they owe debt to? They printed there own money and bartered with other countries.

Also
>almost no Christianity

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It has nothing to do with communism

Oh boy, more literal nazis being made

Wait until you start watching youtube videos from the reich and you want to kill yourself, that's when you really know you've swallowed the redpill

Well, carry on with the redpills boys. It needs to be done

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This is sweet. Is it real?

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Well the world wont be the way i want it. The way nazi's and natsoc's are treated its easy to accept a great natsoc country to rise again as just a dream.

>German government amounted to 62 billion Reichsmarks, whereas government expenditure (up to 60% of which consisted of rearmament costs) exceeded 101 billion
Of course it did, the German government took on the responsibility of the central bank. Moneys worth in national socialist Germany was based on labour, for example, "x amount of labour is equal to a x amount of money". It wasn't backed in gold or trust, there was no middle man.
>thus causing a huge deficit and rising national debt
This claim you pulled out of your ass, even the head of the Reich central bank, who was opposed to making money worth in labor, was surprised that the debt didn't rise or there was no inflation.
>38 billion marks in 1939
This was Versailles debt.
Respond to this

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To finish off, your being misleading commie.

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If only people would ask this question more often.

National Socialism is a difficult ideology to understand because it is not strictly left or right. People telling you that it's just a form of Marxism are comically misinformed. Nazism does not believe in wealth redistribution and it does not believe in a central economy. Nazism seeks to lower taxes as much as possible and to promote private business. That's why Nazi Germany's income tax rate was lower in 1941 than America's income tax rate is today. Nazi Germany also had less gun control than modern America (as per the German Weapons Act of 1938).

Gottfried Feder, Hitler's economic mentor, wanted to create a tax-free country by allowing the government to nationalize a few industries, use the profit from those industries to sustain itself, and thereby eliminate the need for tax. Aiming for this goal, Nazi Germany primarily relied on contributions from private businesses in its early years, and sought to restore the value of the country's currency. It attempted to tie the currency's value to the country's labor output. In pursuit of this, and in the belief that it degrades the value of the currency, usury was outlawed. With usury outlawed, the state has to nationalize the banks.

In general, National Socialism seeks to restore the cooperative spirit between countrymen. It is willing to establish a strong state to safeguard the interests of those who formed it in the first place, though it is not willing to put that strong state above its own people.

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>Germany was already great before it went full natsoc
German education. I don't blame you for being wrong, because it's probably illegal for you to learn about this stuff. Germany was drowning in poverty due to the Treaty of Versailles, and in danger of losing more territory due to its inability to resist French aggression. Germany was a horrible place.

And if the Jews actually had all the money necessary to save Germany from its poverty, why were they hoarding it to begin with? The looting explanation defeats itself.

Pretty sure they considered the Holy Roman Empire to be the valid successor to the first Roman Empire, and themselves to be the successor to the HRE. Hence that they called themselves the Third Reich.

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