What happened to Anonymous?

It was strongly libertarian during Ron Paul times but then Stormfront idiots invaded.

I realy dont get why they try to shut down chans, people gathering here and there wont magicly disappear nor will they change.

They`ll just find another place to settle down.

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It was libertarian but still white nationalist. Nothing's changed.

every one a nazi who is not doing what (((they))) want.

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I have read up, and the narrative is bullshit user.
Don't pretend there is an answer that "special insight" would reveal.
Jow Forums IS CONTROLLED BY SWARMS OF "NAZI TROLLS" NOW.

That is joke.
Do you acknowledge that?

Jow Forums was one thing, then it got "taken over by swarms of nazi trolls", and now it is a completely different thing.
Explain that in intelligible English.
All you are doing now is trying to obscure the fakeness of the narrative in jargon.

And IF THAT MOVE TO THE RIGHT TAKES THE FORM OF EVIL, MINDLESS NAZI HATRED-- where once there had been a nascent potential political awakening-- then has that move right been CO OPTED?

Keep in mind: there are no actual "nat. soc" theories.
No theorists.
No scholarly study of ANYTHING.
No real thoughts.
No optimism.

THE ONLY THING "CHAN NATIONAL SOCIALISM" CONSISTS IN IS A FRENZIED STREAM OF MINDLESS NAZI IMAGERY

That is it!

That replaced Anonymous, which was A MUCH MUCH MORE POWERFUL THING than spazzy nazi posts that bots could easily make.

It looks very very fucking fake anons.

The narrative is a joke.

The nazism is a joke.

Stop the half-assed apologetic talking points and make a point that makes sense.

>I have read up
As far as I know, the underlying forces have never been documented. That was part of the plan; always better to have people in the periphery write the official history.

Why are you mindlessly defending such a stupid narrative user?
If MSM feels compelled to EXPLAIN to the public why Jow Forums magically turned into "a hotbed for incel nazis", then that is because SOMETHING CHANGED VERY SIGNIFICANTLY.

Anonymous is gone.
Anyone can see this.

If anons keep popping in to resist the question with one-line, mindless responses, that looks as fake as the nazism.

glownegro

No doubt. I read "hacker hoaxer, whistleblower", whatever you macallit.
It was published in 2015, and seemed to be secretly an epitaph.
It romanticized old Anonymous, and seemed to be implying that the disappearance of Anonymous kind of didn't really happen, that "they are still inspiring us" and similar fluff.

Then, something seems to have happened in 2016 that altered the official narrative somewhat..

But what is striking is HOW MANY MSM voices and 'scholars' feel a need to EXPLAIN Jow Forums, and everything that has happened.

It is always a dubious thing to objectify A POLITICAL MOVEMENT, since you must by default beg whatever questions that movement fought for, in the process of objectifying.
But there is a whole cottage industry objectifying and "explaining" Jow Forums.

ATTENTION "JANITORS"-- THIS IS 100% , ABSOLUTELY ABOUT POLITICS. THIS IS AT THE VERY CORE OF POLITICS RIGHT NOW. STOP TRYING TO SUPPRESS THIS. YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO SUPPRESS THIS DISCUSSION.

Your text formatting is horrible.

That's a pretty good summary actually.

primary signs of a schizo/shill, it's pretty obvious. too many newfags from 2016 cant identify a fucking thing anymore. either that or they're shills/abc's themselves.

Well of course. It's something they don't understand and something they can't control, so they need to invent models for how it works so that they can control it. What's funny is that even regime change and color revolution experts fail to grasp exactly what's going on because they're stuck in an academic world of theories up against a world of childhood intuition, so they're about as effective as your typical child psychologist.

The transition period is almost completely absent from everything I've ever read, even from people who were there at the time. And that was all part of the plan. You want to build a system that does its own opsec on its own rather than rely on chaotic individuals to do anything right.

I was going for the long explanation of how we got to where we are, starting with chanology as that was a large culture shift.
But yes, their narrative is bullshit. They don't know what the words they use mean.

Explain that in normal English. If you literally CAN'T explain it in normal English, that will look very bad.
I think you are just trying to blow smoke, and I assume you are fake, frankly-- that is why I am asking you to speak normally and justify your narrative.

Don't be defensive, just help the world to understand the real truth.

Except it is perfectly under control.
The MSM needs "scary nazi" talking points-- Jow Forums serves them up.

The MSM needs Epstein truth suppressed-- the "anons" make sure the truth never leaves this board.

That is two examples. It is completely under control.
So what are you talking about?

You don't know rules 1&2?
Are you an election transplant or something?

You asked about the origins of what the world calls "Anonymous." I hasn't existed beyond a few fractured and vestigial expressions for close to a decade. The nazi angle is a little funny, but the MSM obsession with trying to label and control the current situation is an entirely different story.

I don't have a problem with their word usage at all.
I have a problem with the idea that the current condition of Jow Forums is remotely organic.
The idea that "swarms of nazi trolls" is organic is a pathetic lie.

Free speech is gone, because the internet is flooded with fakeness.
It is very very obvious.

"Anons" keep trying to spin this in ways that avoid that main truth.

But spin comes to an end eventually anons.

Jow Forums reflects the counter culture because if it didn't why would people post here instead of the mainstream options? It's pretty basic

Your people are so hated, Moishe, that you CREATED the Nazis.

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>spin comes to an end
And yet the world just keeps on turning. It's expected that the sun will eventually proceed down the 1A star decomposition line well in advance of any kind of heat death situation that stops the world from turning.

>What happened to Anonymous?
It stopped being 2008.

CNN is talking about 4*2chan right now with a super flamboyant rat looking faggot from washington post.
"our system thinks your post is spam" fuck you want me to do to fix it jesus christ

Not necessarily. The mainstream options, like Twitter, do not accurately represent reality. Reddit also is not accurate, it's biased, because the userbase downvotes people with different opinions. Jow Forums is not censored or filtered so you see opinions that you would rarely see on the major social media sites. Anyway, Jow Forums is pretty popular too, but censorship is the key.

If that post was jargon then you are a newfag.

And obviously you've never looked any deeper than the memes. There are a fuckload of books. There are even translations of german books that were done by pol.

I've really been a bit surprised at how many of you clearly aren't from here because you don't know about the long standing spam filter. It makes it seem as though infinity has a huge newfag problem.

Same narrative the kikes at Spiegel online germany are pushing
Also
>Gamergate
twitter.com/glocalreporting/status/1158756688519933952?s=19

I meant that if someone had views that alligned with the mainstream they wouldn't feel tempted to post here

Must be. Containment board is apparently jargon.

Again: the current situation is completely under control.
You need to acknowledge that, or you hardly look credible.
The MSM wants gun control-- the chans serve up "incel terrorists".
It is all a seamless propaganda system, and NOW many more people are starting to understand that.
So you better update your apologist poses in a hurry fake anons.
Times change-- do you?
But people don't post here. Why would they, when everything is washed away in a vapid frenzy of VERY BORING REPETITIVE POSTS?
Look at the actual board, There is no "counter culture" with any vitality.
Indeed, every single thing that could be an affirmative culture is attacked.
The board is FAKE ANTI-CULTURE, and nothing more.
It grinds every idea into a pile of gore.
That is how it functions now.

Anonymous was when something potent rose up out of the former organic chaos.
That was killed.
Now INORGANIC PSEUDO-CHAOS is ENFORCED.

>THE NADZEES
>THEY'RE EVERYWHERE
>I'M HEARING VOICES
>ROBOT NADZEEEEEEEEEEEEES
>ANOMALYMOUS SAVE MEEEEEEEEEEE
>OUT OUT OUT OF MY HEAAAAAAD
>NADZEES ROBOT EVERYWHEREEEEE

It's to my advantage to not look credible. Thanks for the sound advice.

Of course it is.

You CAN'T express yourself in normal English-- that is the point. You can't do what humans do.
Yet you are here trying to force beliefs on humans.
Should you be doing that?

There's some good posts sometimes, also you just posted and so did I, that's two people

no that is plain English. A containment board is where you contain a group. You are on a board. It's not rocket science.
You may as well ask what quarantine means. Most anons lurk for 2 years reading and not posting in order to slowly figure it out and shed their retardation without distracting the rest of us. We used to be rather strict about this, telling newfags such as yourself to shut the fuck up and lurk for 2 more years. But everyone is a newfag these days so I guess they forgot about that rule.

An actor said last week that parents should not let 3-year-olds become transsexual. That was a comment that most people would agree with. However, Twitter went crazy on him, calling him a bigot, etc. Are those people on Twitter aligned with the mainstream?

>A complete political transformation occurred in dubious circumstances.
>It looks very very fake.
It's not fake but very very natural and organic. Lurk moar faggot!

gamergate really was a world changing movement

fappening helped too

I don't understand your point here. Subcultures often have their own terms and references.
Anything that could be legitimate counter culture is usually deleted or shittalked into nothing happening because of the massive influx of low iq newfags, malicious or not.
Look up what happened to the internet on September, 1993, and the quality of discussion. We had our own eternal September here, several times, with the quality steadily decreasing.

Is that the full extent of your reaction to the fact that the chans are now a gigantic sham being used to create and explain shootings, and continually whip the public into a nazi scare frenzy?
Because normal humans probably have more robust, complex reactions than that user.

oy vey it's like an endless fall!

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I've read thousands upon thousands of posts your idea is just not that inspired in my humble opinion, thus the banal reaction

People in subcultures aren't SLAVES to their lingo. They will usually DROP it at certain points in longer exchanges. Anons fail to observe those organic patterns. Anons CAN'T deviate from using in-group lingo.

This isn't 1993, and the demographics of the internet are much different.

As aforementioned, most people plausibly were gravitating to social media in the relevant time frame.
The chans should have shrunk or shriveled-- instead a gigantic influx of "nazis" came in.

It looks very very fake.

And you look pretty fake talking around the main issue, and being so pertinaciously defensive.

WHY DOES THE SYSTEM OF MODERATION ATTACK THIS THREAD?
IT IS 100% A POLITICAL AND A CURRENT EVENTS TOPIC.

THIS PROVES MY POINT

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THINK-- what happened to Anonymous?
The answer to this should be obvious.
Anonymous had what Jow Forums now lacks
The power to wage vigilante hacks,
And publicize corruption where it rots,
And force truth into sleepy public thoughts.
Has Anonymous now disappeared?
Once legendary, now no longer feared?
Once sparking protests-- is that fuel now spent?
The lulz are gone, gone the seething dissent?
What do you think this disappearance means?
Is speech still free in internet machines?

Well, look at what the chans have now become;
Examine what swirls in the daily scrum.
Ask yourself-- does it seem really real?
Does it show what actual people feel?
Does it seem organic and not fake?
How much repetition does it take--
How much frenzied vile monotony--
Until we guess that internets ain't free?

Ask yourself-- if you sought to control
The media, and hence the public soul,
And something like Jow Forums was swelling up
And spilling truth from propaganda's cup
Would you let it go its merry way?
Or would you lock control down in some way?
And if you locked control down would you try
To do it in a way to fool the eye?
To make it seem like free speech carried on
Even though, in fact, it were quite gone?
For if you shut down free speech openly
The public would respond suspiciously;
But if you hid control beneath a ruse
What you once feared becomes a tool to use.
So that, controlling, you have it both ways--
Enslaving dissent, dictating what it says!

Anonymous was infiltrated by
The famously mendacious FBI
Whose antics as shown by COINTELPRO
Target dissent, as I'm sure most people know.
Do we think that having sunk its claws
Into Anonymous, with lies and laws,
Intelligence and other agencies
Would let speech stay as free as it may please?

But it's not like we have far to look
To see by what means free speech got the hook;
The image made by chans' mirrors and smoke
Is so stupid it seems to be a joke!
How laughable must a deception be
Before the world opens its eyes to see?
The simple fact-- as stark as winter dawn--
Is that Anonymous, busted, now gone
Was replaced by swarms of-- wait for it--
Virulent nazis spewing nazi shit!
We would have to laugh if we were told
This outcome in the Jow Forums days of old.
So formulaic, politically cliched--
And yet this very game is being played!
How can a joke as stupid as this one
Be used to strangle free speech, and to stun
The helpless mainstream public with the fear
That an internet fourth reich draws near?
But if that preposterousness is not
Enough to spark the understanding thought,
Consider, even stupider to tell,
The arch absurdity of the “incel”!
No, it's not enough that nazis rose
To cloak and choke the chans in nazi throes--
No, these scary nazis all the same
Must wallow in their helplessness and shame!
The “incel” is not just a defeated man--
But a powerful extremist with a plan!
No matter that these two things contradict--
We'll just keep hammering at them till they stick!

Now ask yourself-- does the technology
Exist to make the unfree chans seem free?
Think data, think vault 7, and AI--
And tech's pervasive all-surveilling eye.
And look at the corruption that's been shown
That yet to public truth remains unknown.
Understand-- the chans are herded tight
And nothing unpermitted sees the light,
The MSM and Chatbot Chans converge
To regulate how much truth can emerge.
When swarming nazi posts fill up the place
Then actual dissent can't get the space
To breathe, develop, organize, or live;
The chatbots force the nazi narrative.

But it's not just “incel nazi” swarms
Faking behind outward human forms--
The chatbots aim to keep all things in hand,
And narrative locked in to what's been planned.
One objective that's not hard to see
Is unrelenting negativity.
Demoralizing, soul-hollowing tropes,
Make one bot vicious, while another mopes;
Here's a bot whose will to live is gone,
While here a chorus eggs fatality on...
Bots promoting suicide to us--
Think about what pure evil that is!
And every possible way to divide
Is used to keep the chaos multiplied.
“Hate threads” for all known identities
Create an atmosphere like a disease.
AI apes the worst of our past posts
And pours them out in hordes of hateful ghosts.
And so the chans, within, drive us away
While on the outside, dictate what “we” say.
The public, for example, thinks the chans
Supported Trump due to his “nazi plans”;
But on the chans much more than half the spew
Hates Trump because he fails to hate “the Jew”!
While on the other side, the pro-Trump bots
Are emulated utter idiots!

By now it should be more than obvious--
Free speech ended with Anonymous.
The Chatbot Chans system is locked in place,
The zombie user leers from a stolen face.
The truth lies right here, waiting to be seen;
A monster stirs to life in the machine...

Because the words are for new concepts you fucknut. Containment board is literally containment zone but applied to the area we current are inhabiting, a board. You should be able to figure out terms like this and if you don't its probably because your IQ is double digits or rather than thinking you'd like to use us as a google search which is kinda fucking rude. Hence: Lurk for 2 moar years faggot.

I was trying to be nice and explain to you, an obvious outsider, a few things about this place. Instead you redditspace and constantly harp about how you can't understand basic terms and common references, then accuse us of being "inorganic" and "fake" when I tell you to learn more about the history of this place.
This is the problem with trying to spoon-feed people.
Fuck off and lurk moar.

tl;dr

>Are those people on Twitter aligned with the mainstream?
no anti semitism, no racism, no homophobia these are mainstream views. democrats or republicans are working for the same goals. the globohomo, a one world gov based on no races, no religions, no ethnicities. the mainstream is centrist democracy is a sham

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Becoming a nazi is just the last stop for the truth seeker.

If infinitichan falls, then Jow Forums will be next target.
I prefer the cripplechan niggers more than the subhumans of (((ptg))), Canadians, meme flags, summer kids or boomers.

No that is too many digits given to a newfag poem shitpost you are an agent or a mod fucking with things.

Oh yeah what happened to the people who inhabited this website more than a decade ago? The people who posted shit like LOOOOOONG CAT RICK ROLL O RLY POOLS CLOSED I AM GEORGE ZIMMER I GUARANTEE IT DESU! Could it be that they grew up and stopped posting that shit, so they’re not distinguishable anymore from the rest of the cynical populace of this website?

We never "Took over", Jow Forums has always looked for the truth, and white nationalism was and still is the truth.

Posts like these only make my argument stronger.
Anons will make a lot of angry, empty noises, but they don't have anything to say that rings true.
This is almost infinitely far from being true.
In point of fact, nazism appeals to precious few people in today's world. It is ugly, depressing, and devoid of fun.
The type of background that actual nazis had (WWI, the experience of national humiliation after the war, in particular) is absolutely foreign to today's western supposed "nazis".
It is not even close to being a believable movement.
It is difficult to say what might happen, since the situation is complex.
As long as control stays in place, they want to keep chans up. Banning them could have unpredictable consequences.
And it would deprive them of their "internet nazis" narrative.

So we can be sure they won't ban all chans, if any.

Why would they ban Jow Forums? It's a treasure trove from an intelligence perspective, and the board of peace meme was installed well ahead of the kind of attention it got years later.

Not everyone is as new as you are.

Very very few actual people think that.
Humans can look around themselves and see that, and thus see that you are pushing a false image of popular consent.
I repeat: the "chan nazism" IS EXTRA STUPID
It is FORCED stupidity.
It is kike kike kike and nothing else
It is BORING
Horribly boring.
No real humans are going to sit around all day making "nazi posts" that are just repetitve one liners!
It is absolutely absurd.

So why are you defending the MSM lie?

>defending the MSM lie
the msm is centrist tell me what you have to say about this post

I explained the term to you. Namecalling is part of chan culture. Everything is a faggot get over it its to drive out weak faggots who are offended at such shit. Its called bantz. The problem with spoonfeeding you information is you don't appreciate it, don't understand it anyway, and by the time you would understand it half of it would have changed. I also do not want to write a novel.

Do more research before you start running your mouth off like you understand something. At the very least understand the terminology here so you can comprehend what the fuck is going on. Then maybe you'll be qualified to weigh in on how organic the activities here are.
TL;DR: Lurk for 2 more year faggot.

NS are retards but defense of cultural identity is now mandatory in Id pol world.

The MSM lie is that "swarms of human nazi trolls took over Jow Forums". Or any variations of it that include the fact that the swarms of nazi trolls are human.

The thing is, there SHOULD have been a natural move to the right.
By CO-OPTING it with crude nazi bots, you completely prevent that move right from happening in an organic and healthy way, and paralyze political discourse in a false dichotomy.
Evil, sick shit that is going on.

(((anonymous))) never been from here. Nigger. It was a psyop.

That's because you don't understand the interplay with stormfront, let alone the pre-stormfront history. Try reading more books if you want to create elaborate narratives to get paid to tell lies for the kike media.

>2015

Pretty sure thread number 22 or 23 was about niggers.

The Stormfront narrative and related narratives is the absolute bullshit that is the topic of the thread.

Its not the chans who are changing, but society itself, the chans are just the forerunners of a trend.

>in 2015 "nazis took over the chans".
Yeah because we never ever joked about hitler before that right?

jesus christ... people are fucking retarded

I hadn't come to Jow Forums in many, many years until Trump started to run in the Republican primaries. This was a good place for news, memes, and information that you wouldn't see elsewhere or would see much later. I'm not a white nationalist, I'm a centrist or center-right, and I'm not exactly white either. Maybe I should just leave this place? I don't know where else I would go because people who like Trump are not welcome on Reddit or Twitter.

You brought it in, and the history is evident. The initial mash-up with stormfront was strange enough that I'm left to wonder if it might have been some Hal Turner related people tasked to see if if they could pull a correlated interest. It didn't quite have the same sterile attempts of what I'm inclined to think might have been government probes that I know to have been going on at the time.

Humans can look around them and see that society is not actually changing into swarms of nazi trolls.
Again: there SHOULD be a natural move to the right, but it has been co-opted and completely smothered.
Not just with nazi bots, but with a whole ecosystem of controlled media. Your Alex Joneses, Ben Shapiros, Jordan Petersons, Laura Loomers, George Webbs, who knows how many? All these voices work to frame various elements in an overall controlled narrative.
This goes way beyond "shilling"-- it is a mass emulation.
Nothing organic is allowed to grow now, or even reach sunlight.

I think the NS or alt right part is an attempt at controlled opposition or narrative control, to an organic move to the right, that was a natural consequence of 3rd wave feminism, blm and antifa.

Do intelligence agencies try to meddle? Do they try to infiltrate? Do they try to control things?

>your alex jonesteins
get a load of this boomer

No, they're totally on the up-and-up. They only gather intelligence. What you're thinking of is called counter-intelligence.

>implying Jow Forums hasn't been making nazi jokes like the "HITLER DID NOTHING WRONG" Mountain Dew contest since it's inception.

Fuck off shill. Everything on this site is satire and you're only exposing yourself as a fraud for your David Brock Pedophile Paycheck.

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ATEchan hides behind "free speech", but it is a lie-- speech is not free

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We already know that the cake is a lie. Welcome to our science :^)
youtube.com/watch?v=Y6ljFaKRTrI

Free speech is gone.
And in its place, a toxic emulation masquerading as free speech.
This is the biggest sham in world history.
And this is ground zero.

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"polarization" is the word you're looking for and the answer of your thread. both the left and right became unhinged

find a culprit somewhere else, Jow Forums did nothing wrong

Jow Forums is a counter weight to the dishonest mainstream narratives.

>Alex Joneses, Ben Shapiros, Jordan Petersons, Laura Loomers, George Webbs
part of a larger group of individuals with ties to the un.
refer to this post
the globohomo/uniparty

It is the keystone of the mainstream narratives-- it all but creates them.
It gives the MSM the nazis it needs.
It is just that simple.

There are no ideas or facts that are off limits on Jow Forums , that is why many truthseekers think Jow Forums is more credible than msm globosexuals.

Yeah because Dick Spencer and the other "alt-right" spergs didn't stick. Try, try try.

It's true. Richard Spencer was another patsy; you could tell there was a push to try to get him to develop an organic real world following, and it flopped. So the "nazi trolls" continue to swarm around online, but in the real world, there is no sign.
There is no leader.
No ideology of the slightest originality.
No appropriate historical circumstances.
How could it be more obvious?
It's fake.