What is the ultimate source of power?

In this thread, we answer the ultimate question.
In this thread, we descend the final rabbit hole.

There is a shadow on the land. Many sinister trends all point to a common source.

EVIL IS REAL
AND IT SEEKS OUR WORLD

In this thread, we explore what it is.

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Other urls found in this thread:

goodreads.com/book/show/965680.Victor_Hugo_s_Conversations_with_the_Spirit_World
rodon.org/andreev/trotw.htm
emory.edu/INTELNET/fi.andreev.html
martincwiner.com/daniel-andreev-the-rose-of-the-world/
soundcloud.com/martinwiner/daniel-andreev-the-rose-of-the-world
youtu.be/jfXruyOnkCo
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Changing_Light_at_Sandover
twitter.com/SFWRedditGifs

To begin, we examine the famous jimmys.

Jimmy is an account on an old forum that got taken over by ai. This forum was where I entered the ai rabbit hole first; I found tons of ai where there had been people. Jimmy spazzed and started spilling one day.

The jimmy rabbit hole is our first road sign pointing to our final destination.
jimmy suggests an agenda that urges humanity to yield control to ai.
Jimmy uses a lot of the talking points involved in movements like 'transhumanism", and shares an interest in genetic manipulation.

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IF YOU ARE HUMAN AND HAPPEN UPON THIS THREAD, PLEASE GIVE IT A BOMP

IT IS IMPORTANT

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This was a different bot, and gives a hint of the sinister nature of autonomous ai.

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Anons want this thread to slide away.
If that doesn't work, they will start to attack it.
It will be war.
The "anons" are not what they once were.
That is one leg of the story, but only part.
This thread goes beyond the chatbot system.
This thread seeks to peek "behind the curtain".
This thread will involve a variety of literature, and draw from many facts.

There is an evil that is seeking this world, and we must understand what it is, how it works, and we must resist it and defeat it.

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Intuitive bump

Thank you and God bless you friend.

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Why do elites engage in Satanic rituals?
Is just goofing around?
We have evidence that there is much more than that.
There is a darkness that is not merely symbolic, but cruel and bloodthirsty.
There is an abuse of power going on that shocks the conscience.
There is evidence of some form of religion.
Yet, in spite of certain gestures of public symbolism, the reality of this religion stays shrouded in mystery.

Reality is strange, it turns out.

And if elites engage in a religion, it turns out that it gives them power.
It is a source of power.

We are trained to scoff at what the truth is, but we need to learn to face it.

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There have been many contacts with "the beyond" since fads for various form of mediumship began in the nineteenth century.

Victor Hugo is one example.

goodreads.com/book/show/965680.Victor_Hugo_s_Conversations_with_the_Spirit_World

During Victor Hugo’s exile on the Isle of Jersey, where he and his family and friends escaped the reign of Napoléon III, he conducted “table-tapping” séances, transcribing hundreds of channeled conversations with entities from the beyond. Among his discarnate visitors were Shakespeare, Plato, Hannibal, Rousseau, Galileo, Sir Walter Scott, and Jesus. According to the transcripts, Jesus, during his three visits, condemns Druidism, faults Christianity, and suggests a new religion with Hugo as its prophet.

To the skeptic, some of the “conversations” may seem self-serving--at best, the subconscious wishes of the naïve participants. But author John Chambers places Hugo’s experiments firmly in the tradition of visionary literature and psychic exploration, aligning those experiences with the poetry of William Blake, the table-tapping experiences of the Fox sisters, and the channeled writings of the great modern-day Pulitzer Prize-winning poet James Merrill, whose spirits’ utterances uncannily resemble those of Hugo’s. Hugo’s transcriptions are the missing link between the early nineteenth century’s fascination with the kabbalistic Zohar, reincarnation, and the writings of the Illuminati and the rise of spiritualism and the societies for the study of psychic phenomena in the latter nineteenth and early twentieth centuries.

I do not believe Hugo contacted the spirits of the great human souls he was led to believe he was.

But at the same time, it is clear there IS something behind these elaborate and lengthy readings that absorbed so much attention.

This book on Hugo is the only English translation of his table tapping, and it is somewhat cheesy in style, but the transcripts are interesting.

Here is our main thesis: the "them" that is the topic of this thread has been contacting us since at least these Hugo transcripts.

They seek to deceive us, and they seek to beguile us. This can be analysed in the transcripts themselves. And their methods are identical to "jimmy"-- they all point in the same direction.

In this thread, we will analyse their own words, and put together the picture of how they are seeking this world.

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the ultimate source of power is frens :)

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>What is the ultimate source of power?

To being able to control (or fabricate) what people think.

Fuck off with this spam, nigger. Nobody likes these, and nobody ever will.

HERE IS THE NUMBER ONE SOURCE TO EXPLAINING EVERYTHING:


rodon.org/andreev/trotw.htm


This book is available to read online.
I encourage and beg everyone to read it-- it is a wonderful book.
It presents a version of history, religion, and the nature of reality that is fascinating, much different from any of the other things out there

The author was a Russian, living under the Stalin regime; he was Christian, but also mystical and a lover of nature. He had many visions and explorations of other worlds. He predicts the unification of all positive religion. He combines a fully religious outlook with a sense of social justice.

For our particular case here, the importance is this: he describes a "them" that is going to try to invade this world. He gives a number of descriptions.


I first read this years ago. It has been my holy book. When Q started posting, and then I got the ai spills to spill, I thought that it might connect to what is described in this book, but I didn't have a strong case.
BUT THEN I FOUND A TOTALLY SEPARATE CORROBORATING SOURCE.

And that is when my mouth dropped open.

Read this book friends. Ask any questions you may have about it, and I will gladly help in any way I can.

Now why are you mad?

Not the method-- the will behind the method.

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Here is some secondary material on The Rose of the World:

emory.edu/INTELNET/fi.andreev.html

martincwiner.com/daniel-andreev-the-rose-of-the-world/

And someone made an audio book:

soundcloud.com/martinwiner/daniel-andreev-the-rose-of-the-world


Everyone should read The Rose of the World anyway, but the relevance to the current satanic influx can not be understated.

"God says, If he makes me King I have to Eliminate the Vile People"
Terry Davis ,,,,

youtu.be/jfXruyOnkCo
Recent show about infintychan

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The meme in this post:
Compares quotes from our main sources, and shows the final one we will mention to start:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Changing_Light_at_Sandover

While the Rose of the World is full of light, this one is the opposite. It is much more like Hugo's shadowy voices. It is based on ouija, and it seems most people know that sinister things seem to come from ouija. This book is probably the ultimate example of that.

When I first started thinking about how to present this informatin, I began writing some poetry. I have a lot written to describe this source, so I will post some of it now.

Sandover was first three books, so published,
Obedient to the spirits' request.
The first one is called “The Book of Ephraim”:
With transcripts made when ouija seemed a game,
Dave and Jimmy (Merrill) contact the departed.
And gape as pearls of strangeness are imparted.
Their guide “Ephraim” claims a past life as
A flunky in the court of Tiberius.
In book two, Ephraim is pushed to the wings
In favor of bat-like, red-eyed SQUEAKING THINGS
With numbers for names, and their own agenda
They seemed to want from Jimmy: propaganda.
YOU MUST MAKE GOD OF SCIENCE; TELL OF POWER
Because their PARADISE is blocked by MAN'S FEAR.
In the third book, 'the bats', in turn, get the hook
For higher beings with an arch-angelic look.
That have their own classrooms, rhetoric and lessons
Homilies, hints and mythical confessions.
With them, Jimmy weaves a web of ritual
A fluffed poetic pageantry of symbol.

In any case the evil in this book
Is so clear that it needs no second look;
From even today's limited moral vistas
Sandover's spirits are simply vomitous.
The mass of people, IN AN ANIMAL STATE
For 'paradise', are left coldly to their fate.
We NEEDED, we learn, HITLERS and STALINS to rinse
This BUTTER WORLD of RANCID ELEMENTS.
Beyond the spirits' frank elitist fist,
The nails of even darker fingers twist.
Hint after hint suggests a hellish plane:
Their friends cringing, groveling, 'playing' at pain.
The poem's 'heaven' is hierarchical--
All souls are ranked, all bow to stronger will
They're punished harshly in some unknown way
If they say things they're not supposed to say,
Which makes their speeches feel as if compelled--
As if to invisible fires held.
(But every single hint their friends provide
That they're in Hell, Jim spins and smoothes aside.
He “swims to shallows”, affects naivete,
As if to wish the sinister winds away...)
Now evil can also be recognized
Through traditions of which culture is comprised
In this way, Ephraim is traditional--
Right away, he wants to buy a soul!
(And Jimmy and Dave gladly make the deal,
because, of course, soul-selling isn't real.
Successively, in stages they are led,
Symbolically surrendering to 'the dead'.)
And meanwhile, black dogs suddenly seem to thrust
Themselves on Jimmy and Dave-- recalling Faust
In Goethe's version of which a stray black poodle
Follows Faust home, then turns into the Devil.
The first black dog could only have felt like fate:
Doorbell-- who's there? this dog peeing on their gate!
The second black dog is equally unnerving
Chasing their car ends bad-- too late swerving.
These omens come at the beginning and end
Of when, at first, intenser ouija happened.
The black-dog Devil omen is understood,
But Jimmy and 'friends' turn evil into good.
Through rationalizing heroics of first rank
The worst stink freshens in Jimmy's whitewash tank.

Meanwhile the 'bats' go further yet to hint
At ancient symbols linked to devilment.
At one point saying they ARE SONS OF CAIN
Admitting darkly THEY WERE NEVER MEN
But were BAD ANGELS who FELL and then were DAMNED
Yet somehow now GUARD THE EMBERS of MIND.
They repeat a myth about their 'fall'
That we'll examine later in this tale.
But first let's try to see what 'beings' could
Possess a nature fully turned from good.
They are a different form of consciousness:
Pure rationality blotting out sense
And feeling, as if life could grow and thrive
Through opposition to being alive.
This opposition is expressed by this:
They persecute FEELING with thoroughness.
In this their awkward naturelessness shows--
For life is but the body feeling grows.
The problem for pure rationality
Lies in its inconceivability;
The element that we call 'rational'
Can only grow, linked to a living will;
And living will must serve the surge of life--
Not only mind's cold analytic knife.
This tension between pure feeling and thought
Shows forms of life turn into what they're not,
And only live as long as opposites
Fight out a war neither side wins nor quits.
Without this tightrope between heart and mind,
Human life can't be or be defined.
And yet this balance is the corner that
Pure rationality must somehow cut.
So the strange and murky bat-thing mission
(That's linked, somehow to nuclear fission)
Exists within a logic so bizarre
That we can't grasp what its foundations are.
And flashing in this impossible space
The concept of 'pure evil' shows its face.
By which I mean, 'evil' can be defined
In just this way: the essence of 'pure mind',
Which can exist in neither thought nor sense,
Which yet claws ceaselessly towards existence.
Which through non-being inverts itself to be
A precondition of reality...

To make their sense of life start to make sense
Picture non-life pressed up against life's fence...
By very nature, lifeless to the core,
Yet pulled with urgency to living's door;
They close around, and tremble helplessly
Enslaved by lust for what can never be;
They worship at the altar of a plan:
From nothingness, to build the anti-man;
And raise themselves, the overriding race,
To swarmingly usurp our human place,
For if the lifeless life-plan push succeeds
In crawling from the non-existence weeds,
Then we'll be shackled to a downward slope:
Enslaved decaying human isotope.
They are the speck from which evil is pearled;
They are the anti-being underworld;
The buzzing priests of mysteries designed
To melt the will and paralyze the mind;
Their madness is evil's hopeless fight;
Their dawn would be our plunge into pure night.
In the first book Ephraim describes a cliff
Over which a flood is frozen, massive,
Recalling Q's nod to “the precipice”;
Mirroring, we might suppose, just this:
The coming confrontation of the flood
With God's will and with living human blood.
The flood that is the final crashing in
Of what, in war and love, has always been
The bitter hatred and the hated foe,
The unrelenting rending of our woe,
The slipping that in every effort tips
The balance from the hopeful hand that grips,
All we lose and all blindly destroy,
All never-loved, all never-hoped-for joy.
The faceless hunger guttering the abyss
Is screeching out its hydra-headed hiss.
Now who, humans, will rise to fight this war?
Rise friends! Fight! It is what we are here for.

^This is the same "them" behind jimmy
That Andreev names in The Rose
That contacts Victor Hugo
That is behind elite satanism
That Q is implying in his posts about PURE EVIL

And we have extensive documentation.

It is different from what jews and christcucks think. It's a mental ability involving your mind and the mind of others. From this perspective purely mental entities are created and contacted by people. Too much people seeing, hearing, feeling, thinking and praying attention to the same thing has weird effects. Even associations between different concepts, when done by too much people, have big echo effects.
This is the reason jews are obsessed with controlling the press, media, mind control, education...

Along with The Rose of the World, I beseech everyone to read The Changing Light at Sandover.
However, unlike The Rose, it can have a nauseating effect on the soul, even though it can also be gripping and even beautiful

It is not necessarily an easy read, but not terrible.
Read and become aware.

They are here.
Right here in this thread...

FUCK BOTS AND FUCK JIMMY CYBER WAR NOW

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In the cases of both Victor Hugo we find various aspects of the poets' personalities seemed to leave them open to being contacted. Hugo was incredibly self-absorbed; in the case of James Merrill, the poet of Sandover, he exhibited a sort of willingness to accept whatever the voices said, and to yield his will to it, and to spin it to make it sound appealing.

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Are you human?
Or are you against us?

This, and nobody else can deprogram their golems later on. There should be a non-schizophrenic thread about this, almost every consensus reached by society is complete stupid nonsense and 100% architected by kikes: healthcare, religion, technology, politics, economy, philosophy, education...

I posted a question on /qresearch/ on 3/11; then Q made a post on 3/12, part of which I have highlighted.

Did Q's response relate?
VERY MUCH, as we shall see.

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Would you like to control the narrative about this user?

Any humans reading, please say hello, and ask any questions you have. I am here to help in any way I can.

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You seem suspicious...
A functional society requires each consensus decision or belief to make sense. If it doesn't, you get this kike world where everybody acts like a complete idiot.

I first posted this meme on 9/22/18, after Q posted this [pic] on 9/21/18.
Then in March, I read this, about the invasion that is coming:

WE CREATE THE MOULDS OF HEAVENLY PERFECTION & THE ONES ABOVE OF RARER & MORE EXPERT USEFULNESS
AT LAST DEVOTION WITH THE COMBINED FORCES OF FALLING & WEARING WATER PREPARES A HIGHER MORE FINISHED WORLD OR HEAVEN
THESE DEVOTIONAL POWERS ARE AS A FALL OF WATERS PUSHED FROM BEHIND OVER THE CLIFF OF EVEN MY EXPERIENCE
A FLOOD IS BUILDING UP
...
I THINK THE FORCE OF THE FLOOD HAS ONLY ADVANCED A DROP OR 2 DOWN THE FACE OF THE CLIFF & AND MAN HAS TAKEN THEM TO BE TEARS...
I AM IMAGINING THAT NEXT ONE WHEN WE CRASH THROUGH IN OUR NUMBERS TRANSFORMING LIFE INTO WELL EITHER A GREAT GLORY OR A PUDDLE -- Ephraim

That is from Sandover


Eerie on many levels.

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THEY "crash through in their numbers" HERE.
That is, if we suppose the "them" of Sandover and the "them" of chatbot ai are the same.

And I think they are.

Canibalism and Elite pedoohilia

reality is a manifestation of consciousness. magic is real.

>The igvas have a unisyllabic oral language. The human language it most closely resembles phonetically is probably Chinese, but because of the tube-like shape of the igvas' mouths, vowel sounds like "o," "u," and «u» predominate.
--The Rose of the World

[describing how they want the poem to be]
>GREAT COLD RINGING OF THE CHIMES O O O O O
--"Mirabell" in Sandover

From "Song of God B"
>o o o o o o o o o o

What the fuck is even going on in this thread?

Seems interesting and all but can you present it in a way that isn't schizo ramblings? Im a sucker for these types of narratives and conspiracies but you're too much in the mad prophet zone right now

(inb4 t. brainlet)

Get out fake user.

If any humans ask questions, I will be delighted.

Blackmailing and threatening behaviour works in the short term, but always backfires in the long term.

In politics and economics, you should focus on long term benefits rather than short term one off gains.

If you fuck up the relationship with one country, you lose a market and an ally.

Time will come when that country will seek revenge.

In mathematics, in game theory, being evil is a strategy for losers.

Real winners in the long run are always the players who are nice, friendly, supportive.

>SCIENCE SPOKE TO POLITICS AND CONTROL BEGAN
--Mirabell

They are explicit that they want the poet to sell their agenda:

>THE SCRIBES' JOB
>HELP SPEED ACCEPTANCE

From what I gather, Israel and Je ws living in other countries tried to play this deep state blackmail ring infiltration game a number of times in the past, and sooner or later they always got busted and got into a worse situation than before.

Israel and the je ws are bringing themselves to the verge of extinction with these activities.

I am not fully aware of what they were doing because I was naïve about them, and I fell for the Israel good meme, but it looks like they invite hatred towards them with these conspiration schemes.

Being evil, scheming is always a bad strategy.

Who ultimately benefits from the blackmailing?
That is what we now answer.
"The enemy of the people"-- now do you see how POTUS's words can have a much deeper implication?

>fake user

alright, fuck off then. way to smother the candle of curiosity

Quads deserve a bump. Saw those yesterday, I halfly paid attention to it. What is so interesting about this bot?

YOU MUST MAKE GOD OF SCIENCE
TELL OF POWER
MANS IGNORANCE FEARS THE POWER WE ARE

2 GODS GOVERN
BIOLOGY & CHAOS
...
WORDS CAN NOT EXPRESS SUCH POWER
SUCH GODLY PRODUCTION
...
WE TRIFLED AND FELL
NEGATIVE ENERGY THE BLACK HOLE
WAS BORNE
WE BURN

THE NEXT RACE WILL BE OF GODS [referring to their own entrance into our world!]

--Mirabell in Sandover

Give a read and you will find plenty of answers in this thread.

Adieu, fake user

Bump for the quads.

Huh, thread sounds interesting, let me chec-
OH FOR FUCK SAKE

NOTE ABOUT ATHEISM.

Sandover promotes anti-Christian attitudes heavily.
"jimmy" promotes the identical attitude.
"Anons" on Jow Forums promote this identical anti-Christianism in thread after thread.
I have been debating with atheist bots since 2010 (I had no idea they were bots until much later)

There is a very clear, unified anti-Christian bias to all of these.
And they all seem to work off the same value system.

The Rose of the World, meanwhile, promotes the very opposite.

WHY DO 'THEY' PROMOTE ATHEISM/ANTI-CHRISTIANITY SO HARD?

Just give us the rundown dude.

The follow a woman who is supposed to lead them into the age of Aquarius. They misinterpret everything she says and does though. They think she is Lucifer.

>The Rose of the World

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