The right to bear arms is irrelevant in any civilised society, as the norm of democracy has become strong that a leader cannot hope to go against it. Imagine if a leader declared himself king for life- he would be flung in jail.
Meanwhile the right to democracy makes armed insurrection against tyrannical government unnecessary. We can simply vote for a government that will supply more liberty.
Suppose we are too foolish to do so. If we're so stupid, will be smart enough to rise up in arms, and pay for with our blood that which we won't even vote for?
No! All we need is the vote to check a democratic government. And democratic government is the only form of government we are ever likely to have. No one will fight for, no one respects, in a civilised country, tyrants.
Finally, the right to bear arms is made irrelevant in a society with a large standing army, and centralised armed police force, as the people will be too intimidated to rise up, regardless how much they hate the government. Ask yourself how the Nazis were able to occupy France for so long.
lel, kill yourself, no one cares about your drivel
Logan Russell
>civilised niggers
Adrian Lee
Why do you believe the right to bear arms still has relevance (in civilised society)?
It was probably useful hundreds of years ago when republican and constitutional government was still fledgling but it's clearly been made irrelevant by standing armies and democratic norms.
Aaron Turner
At the very founding bedrock and what is the crucible of being American is the right to bare arms and keep the government in check. As soon as that right is infringed it is every patriotic Americans duty to stage a revolution. America was founded by a revolutionary spirit. The guns are to keep the government in check, when the government tries to take the guns its time to teach the government a lesson. The last bastion of freedom in this world from zog is the right to bare arms in the USA.
Anthony Baker
Sage and hide. There's 7 gorillion of these stupid fucking threads a minute.
Christopher Brooks
>We can simply vote for a government that will supply more liberty. Do you actually believe this BS?
Joseph Hall
>Why do you believe the right to bear arms still has relevance (in civilized society)? So I can shoot people who act uncivilized or tyrannical. Like politicians who are supporting mussie grooming gangs.
Landon Gray
Here is some simple math for you. There are about 350 MILLION people in this country. There are about 40k deaths due to firearms in this country every year. That gives you, roughly, a 0.003% chance of being killed by a firearm. BUT ONLY If you are >in a gang >a cop >live in or near a black neighborhood >or are suicidal If that does not apply to you...your chances are essentially nill Add that to the FACT that without exception, wherever the gun laws are strictest the higher the crime rate is, the reverse is also true. Plus, firearms are used about one MILLION times every year in defense of self and others. And if you want to cry about "muh mass shootings" you can blow that out of your ass too. As more people have died due to lighting strikes since the 60s as have died in all mass shootings combined. Twice as many in fact. Anyone against the 2A is an idiot and an ignorant fool. And, my enemy.
Grandpa, how did you get out of the home? I thought we talked about this, you're not well. We never should have trusted Ireland to take care of you.
Caleb Evans
I understand this argument very well, but I anticipated it in the OP. Government is 'kept in check' by the vote. And if people are too stupid to vote for freedom, they aren't likely to die for it either.
Christian Gutierrez
>Vote for a government that is supposed to supply more liberty (Trump) >Does the opposite SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
Voting is for slaves. Guns are for killing tyrants.
Xavier Walker
Well reasoned and said, user. Bang.
Nolan Richardson
Amen
Zachary Wood
It's possible in the system. The barrier is apathy in the population, not the lack of guns.
Ayden Reyes
>Ask yourself how the Nazis were able to occupy France for so long
Because the French state pushed a complete gun ban with a large scale confiscation in 1938, supposedly to prevent an insurection during the war. In practice, it made it almost impossible for the resistance to find guns. Hence the liberator pistol project.
Asher Torres
>euroshits are too pussy to do anything how is that an american problem?
I came in this thread specifically to find your gay fucking post and call you a fucking nigger. There, I said it. You're a nigger and we all know it. Fuck you.
Wyatt Davis
>t. im 12 and just heard about politics
USA has had three dictators: washington, lincoln, and FDR and has an authoritarian executive now ripe for another round of dictatorship
you're a fucking idiot if you think democracy as an institution is sound
Luke Jackson
Your individual action won't change anything. If there's a large enough population for an insurrection to create meaningful change, you could have just voted and not killed so many people.
So why not rise up with your 100 million gun owners or whatever it is, if things are so bad? Lmao
Lincoln Foster
When your borders are invaded by hordes of uncivilized people your society becomes uncivilized. This happened before and what followed is what is referred to as The Dark Ages
Cooper Bennett
>We can simply vote for a government that will supply more liberty.
No, actually individual action and small groups have a great potential to cause a lot of damage to the current rulers. For instance, what started WW1?
Nicholas Robinson
>paki with loyalist logic
Jacob Thomas
>Just vote a tyrant out :^)
Venezuela Cuba Hong Kong Turkey China South Africa Historic dictatorships
Widespread public firearm ownership keeps politicians on permanent notice and prevents egregious infringements on personal liberties.
Kevin Perry
The culmination of democracy is Bonapartism. Liberty and democracy are different, and increasingly in modern times, opposite tendencies in society.
Jason Martin
It's the slave mentality thats ground into us from the point we enter school here Amerianon...
Connor Moore
Yeah man just vote! You can choose between twenty parties and candidates that hold a cosher stance or they will do shit once elected. If democracy works; why hasn't Brexit happened yet?
Sebastian Bailey
I know we are dogpiling you OP, but your arguments are really terrible and easily debunked.
Joseph Davis
A Serbian nationalist opposed to the Hapsburg Empire, caused his country to be invaded by the Hapsburg Empire and thousands of his countrymen to be killed.
All of these countries have long histories of military coups and dictatorship. They aren't a fair comparison.
Dylan Nguyen
If they all have opinions you don't like that just shows your opinions are unpopular. You can start up a new party any time you like.
Nathan Barnes
So you agree that individuals with guns can make HUGHE changes to the system? Nah, if you start your own party it is going to go nowhere and just be dominated by the larger parties.
Nolan Hughes
>So you agree that individuals with guns can make HUGHE changes to the system? They can cause changes, but only in a haphazard way. Often they get the opposite of want.
>Nah, if you start your own party it is going to go nowhere and just be dominated by the larger parties. If your opinions were popular this would not be the case. Even if you smarted small, you would grow. Christianity started from nothing and is now the world's biggest religion.
