The secession that formed the Confederacy was initiated by the southern slave-owning aristocracy that depended on slave...

The secession that formed the Confederacy was initiated by the southern slave-owning aristocracy that depended on slave labor for their quality of life. The first states to secede were those whose slaveowners held a majority of the white vote. States where there were more poor whites than slaveowners took longer to join up. Slaveowners saw poor whites as a threat to their position, because they had no investment in the institution of slavery.

Slaveowners had no interest in paying workers a living wage, no interest in hiring free poor whites. Poor whites were seen as no better than mud, but without work or opportunities, they were left to be squatters living in the backwoods to raise malnourished children into generational poverty. Jim Crow laws were established to help maintain blacks as an underclass below even the poorest of the clay-eating poor whites, so that even in the absence of slavery, the former slaveowners could continue to exploit cheap black labor.

Abolitionists saw slavery as a societal ill because it encouraged white idleness. As long as whites had slaves around to do work for them, whites would try to avoid the kind of labor they felt was beneath them.

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>As long as whites had slaves around to do work for them, whites would try to avoid the kind of labor they felt was beneath them.
They're just doing the work nobody else will do

so what?
this isn't politics. it's history.

>he thinks the politics of the civil war aren't still with us

What a load of horse shit lol. They used slaves cause niggers aren't anything more then monkeys as is proven today where they still act like monkeys. But even so the majority of people weren't slave owners cause they were poor as fuck

You've got it backwards.

There are still Yankees who are quick to flippantly invoke the civil war.hell most people dont understand the war was rich southerners vs rich northerners with everyone else caught in the middle.

I sense Yankee bullshit.

The South was DEMOCRAT. That is a DEMOCRAT flag.

Nope, you're just a kike trying to re-write history

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Poor southerners were drafted into service to do the fighting for the slaveowner aristocracy. Most had no interest whatsoever in fighting for the cause and many deserted or never reported for duty.

Up until a certain point in the war, any southern man with 20 or more slaves had an instant exemption from combat duty.

This is pretty much true, yes

Son, why do you faggots keep trying to rewrite history?
Are you one of those tards who claims jews owned all the slaves?

Most whites in the south didn't own slaves. That was the jews, and no, jews aren't white.

Ya the fucking dems.

Now this is revisionism. Jews accounted for 1.25% of Southern slaveowners. But it is true that most whites in the south were not rich enough to be slaveowners.

and yet slavery wasnt even a topic of discussion until the final days of the war when licoln gave an ultimatum of "either surrender now or when we win Ill outlway slavery" and the south kept fighting.
If they surrendered, slavery would not have been illegal.

Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation in 1862. Didn't you have history class in school?

They also had millions of blacks in their society and no way to control them without slavery. The North had almost no blacks at all.

The CSA, made by democrats. Jim Crow Democrats. Just rebel scum( hehe) anyway, KKK The Democrats. I aint afraid of no ghost. Embracing Neo Nazism, well look who is it The Democrats.

I got that info from a university history class.
When I get the time Ill double check the book.
Civil war had been going for about a year before that was signed though.

ALL wars are (((bankers))) wars and the "civil" war was no different. Slaves? Gimme a fucking break.

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Capitalism is your friend, anons. It will keep the idle busy.

There wouldn't have been blacks in their society if they hadn't been brought over on slave ships. To be slaves. That's kind of the point.

Bam!

Despite the kiked conditions of the Confederacy. I maintain that because of the militaristic, nationalistic and racial culture of the south, white southerns would have benefited from a Confederate victory in the civilwar, and would be more based and redpilled today. I also maintain that it would still be beneficial to white southerns to peaceful succeed again.

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Source on pic?

Fly that flag and you will be arrested

Look up this book. Here are three pages.

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You know what to do

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This may be the gayest thing I've ever read.
It reads like a salty Yankee bastard trying to invent an excuse for "Muh Based Lincoln"
Which is laughable considering that Mary Todd was herself a jew.

Not politics
Goto b, cocksucker

Is the name of the book just civilwar?

Nature's Eternal Religion

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For being the winning side they sure seem sore about it

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Lincoln offered the southern states the right to own slaves forever, if they did not secede.

Civil war was 1861-1865
In 1863, West Virginia split from Virginia and joined the northern union AS A SLAVE STATE.

If the war was about slavery.
If northerners were killing southerners simply because they owned slaves.
THEN WHY WAS A SLAVE STATE WITH SLAVE OWNERS ADMITTED TO THE UNION DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE WAR?

Checkmate.

>Creativity movement
Yikes

That's not the Confederate flag

>he cries out in pain

The United States was formed with certain rules, those rules being laid out in the constitution, including rules on how to amend that constitution. The abolitionists wanted to change those rules without following the procedures in the constitution. The confederate states then felt no obligation to follow honour that union.

this looks like the back of a PS2 game

The Free Soil Party (which later became the Republican party) was founded on the single-issue believe that free men on free soil constituted a morally and economically superior system to slavery. It opposed the expansion of slavery, which the southern aristocracy interpreted as a threat to their position in society. The slaveowners would lose their labor source and would no longer be able to maintain their lavish "genteel" lifestyles.

The northern state practice of not returning runaway slaves was seen as the confiscation of property without compensation. The abolitionists probably would've had the number within a decade or two to amend the constitution but instead turned to appointing activist federal judges to ignore the provisions of the constitution.

Read the csa Mississippi constitution.
Checkmate racist scum.

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>slavery wasnt even a topic of discussion until the final days of the war
>majority of declarations of secession mention slavery

OP is correct. I'm a southerner, and I love the south, especially compared to how leftist the rest of the country is turning. However, you're delusional if you don't realize that the civil war was about rich plantation owners trying to keep their power. They're the ones that brought niggers here in the first place.

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The problem goes to the heart of the constitution and the union:

Do states that join the Union have the ability to leave the union?

As the tyrant Lincoln declared and enforced with arms, no they don't. The union as it was envisioned by the founding fathers was died in 1865, and it was severely ill even during Washington's presidency. The only hope now is either peaceful secession or bloody revolution.

>taking the Jewishness out of Christianity
Pretty based in theory, but yeah, it's mostly meth addicts.

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Jews had slaves.
It's un-christian to own slaves, so your placing the blame at the wrong place faggot jew.

God bless #3, not a fucking pussy.