They’re going to raise the gun purchasing age to 21 federally

but then it would be illegal, so they wouldn't be able to get guns

>t. 16 year old summer fag that just learned who John Adams was

Shut the fuck up faggot. John Adams was easily one of the shittiest founding fathers and I can find about 1,000,000 Jefferson/Franklin/Washington quotes to counter the autistic one you posted.

I just want to read the court ruling when someone can vote in accordance with the Constitution of the United States, but is not able to enjoy all Rights afforded to other voters . Should be entertaining in itself.

I've haven't seen such a scripted week of constant shilling by such a large variety of corporations and media outlets pushing for a gun ban in quite a while.
I think they're really going for it this time.
It's as if they all got the FBI memo and are playing their parts to a T

>the constitution was written to grant me the freedom to be a piece of shit

no it wasn't. if you have no moral foundation, then your freedom is a detriment to society

gee that doesn't sound fake and scripted at all

Soon gun owners will be imprisoned if you make simple call to the police saying the person is unhinged, what could go wrong?

i still don't understand how he could afford an actual full-auto

Of course they're going to respond like that if you just call up and say
>Gosh, my son is immature and has no experience with firearms.
There's zero indication of a threat there.

The constitution doesn’t grant you anything, it blacklists what the government can do. I guess you haven’t taken U.S. Gov. in high school yet you stupid nigger.

It fucking kills me. In 9/11 we had guys learning to fly that did not care about landing reported to the FBI, and they did nothing. After that we got the Patriot Act and spent trillions killing sand people. In Florida we had the armed sheriff's deputy run away from the shooting, and here we have mom saying something is fucked. How much would it have taken some sergeant to run by the kids house, invited by the mom, to talk to the kid? You don't need more laws, or less rights, you need competent people.

>Our society is no longer moral or religious. We have failed the principles of the constitution, and thus we do not deserve to have it anymore
Oh good, so we should relinquish our firearms to the state.

Nothing in that image would suffice for reasonable suspicion (which allows for detaining/asking questions) .. and even further from probable cause (which allows for an arrest). Being immature - even with a weapon - is no cause for concern. People are immature with weapons for youtube videos all the time, and never kill anyone.

You don't have to have a warrant to have a chat. The kid/young man could always tell the officer to fuck off, and that would be that. Or, given that police are actually pretty good reads of people, maybe he would have seen something was really off and pushed it up the chain of command. It would have taken nothing to try.

Then we must scrap it and declare our independence once more.

>You don't have to have a warrant to have a chat.
I see you didn't read what you responded to. Try again, and respond after you fully understand everything stated. Once you do that, I'll return the respect of reading what you've said - I didn't this time.

Fine, dick. You don't need reasonable suspicion to have a chat.

Reasonable suspicion is what allows them to investigate. It is a legal standard that is required for allowing officers to ask questions. This gets no where close to that standard.

>We the people, hold these granted rights to be self evident

It's in the fucking preamble retarded nigger

I don't think you clearly read what I wrote. A police officer can strike up a conversation with you at will. If he has been invited by the mother the rules are totally different. Maybe once a year an office will say, "how are you doing" or something to me. Obviously he is doing that to gauge my response to ascertain a threat level, but he is free to speak.

I don't think they can, constitutionally. I wish they'd up it to at least 25.

>A police officer can strike up a conversation with you at will.
And you are considered detained at that moment. You can ask "am I free to go?" and if they have NO REASONABLE SUSPICION that you have or are about to commit a crime, you MUST be released. Do you REALLY think someone planning on shooting up a place is going to voluntarily sit down with officers to be questioned about their motives? Without reasonable suspicion, nothing gets investigated. It's a waste of money and the police department's time.

I don't give a fuck what your mother did. I don't give a fuck that you don't know and understand the law. That's all irrelevant.

>congress shall make no law
>shall not be infringed
>etc.
Do I have to teach you how to read too, you stupid fucking nigger? Maybe try reading the constitution past the fucking preamble and you won’t sound like such an utter moron.

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>Mom forgets to mention that her son's brain has been fried by SSRIs since he was 12
>What the fuck were the police supposed to do about it?

Further, there's not a single fucking thing to investigate here. Being immature is not indicative of a crime. Not having experience with a firearm is not indicative of a crime. There's literally NOTHING for them to investigate.

Very nice parenting skills desu.

>And you are considered detained at that moment.

nopers. A detainment happens whenever a police officer uses enough force or a show of authority that a reasonable person would believe that they are not free to leave. An exchange of pleasantries is not that, even if the officer uses the engagement to form an opinion.

You are absolutely right. The officer cannot be there to investigate a crime. He can be there to speak with the mother, and if low and behold the guy is there, how nice.

And that's still not the preamble. You're splitting hairs.
>Rights granted in preamble explicitly
>BUT THEY ARENT RIGHTS,THEY ARE JUST THINGS THE GOVERNMENT CANT MAKE RULES AGAINST THIS GRANTING YOU THAT RIGHT ESSENTIALLY. READ THE BILL OF RIGHTS, THEY ARENT RIGHTSSS REALLY THOUGH!

more like they got the stand down order from the computer after running some info.

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The constitution explicitly states that your rights are inalienable and God given. Please explain to me how a piece of paper can grant you a right that you are born with. The sole purpose or the constitution, as well as the government, is to protect rights which YOU HAVE HAD SINCE BIRTH. They are NOT GIVEN TO YOU. I don’t understand which part of this is so difficult for you to grasp.

I started as baiting by misquoting the preamble, but realized it is THE BILL OF RIGHTS you autistic faggot. You're the faggot of every group you hang around trying to prove people wrong on shit you don't actually know.

Supreme Court says you're wrong.
law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/392/1
And he wouldn't have to say a single fucking word. Gosh. How convenient - more tax payer money wasted!

Look, I know it's difficult to understand, but this:
>My son is immature and is inexperienced with guns.
IS NO REASON TO INVESTIGATE A DAMN THING
This is though:
>My ex-boyfriend gave me a play-by-play of the synagogue shooting, in an idolizing fashion.
>My ex-boyfriend called me and told me he wanted to hurt people.
>My ex-boyfriend has weapons.
>My ex-boyfriend has mental health issues.
If you called a police department and told them all of this information, they WOULD investigate. Unfortunately the bitch didn't and the asshole shot dozens of people in Dayton. See the difference? One CLEARLY indicates potential for a threat. The other is just.. fucking stupid subjective bullshit.

This will be my final response to your retarded ass.

Why write a BILL OF RIGHTS then?

yes, women need more unchecked power

twitter screenshot thread #4598349056435 has totally convinced me to give up my rights

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its a little strange the mom would call the police about that. its very mkultra tactic. OH AND GUESS WHAT. the person who called never actually gave their name

I prefer a Bill of Rapes

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>Supreme Court says you're wrong.
>law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/392/1

Terry is absolutely not comparative to the situation I described.

Look Dick, criminals are not smart. News reports say he is talking to the police right now. He is going to be killed by the state, and he is talking to them right now. Maybe he shuts the fuck up, but most people won't.

You dumb dipshit adams would kick thomas niggerlover Jefferson's ass any day of the week pussyboy

Would you prefer it had been called “The Bill of Things the Federal Government Cannot do to Infringe upon your Rights” you fucking spastic?

Just ban democrats from owning guns and everyone's happy.

>You don't need more laws, or less rights, you need competent people.
The government can only ever be as good as the people it governs. When you have a broken society where the sons are all raised in broken homes with single mothers and sent off to liberal inculcation daycamp known as the public school system then there is nobody talented being produced.
Also the government really isn't omnipresent and gets a shitton of reports like these and they can't even do anything because technically nobody did anything wrong.

Look, you are 100% right. But the argument in mainstream right now is about how many more rights we need to give up. Nothing is going to stop this, and it isn't even a major problem as far as fatalities go. There is zero need to give up rights when efforts are not even attempted within the framework that we have.

just make 21 the new 18. Also convict anyone that had sex with an 18 year old and ban all porn featuring 18 year olds.

90% of shooters grow up in fatherless homes. A dad would've just taken away the gun if he sensed danger. The mom calls the police for something that's not a crime.

Stealing a firearm is a crime

>They’re going to raise the gun purchasing age to 21 federally
This is something that Trump advocated for and the libtards got assblasted about it.

Then let the son call the cops. What kind of cuck dad are you if you don't stand up to your NEET loser son?

But you can serve good goy Jewmerica at 18 and vote in Presidential elections LOL, this country is shit and makes no sense anymore

El paso shooters mom owns a company that can control planes by remote control. Truth.

no. the pitiful of society dont get to just take us hostage because they cant take care of themselves.

Men used to get married, have jobs, have children, buy houses at 18.

Now, 18 year olds act like children. Maybe 21 or even 24 should be the new 18.

honestly raise gun ownership to 25
too many edgey incel faggots

Recent psychological studies says the new adult age is 24 and excluding military members I would have to agree

>honestly raise gun ownership to 25
No. Gun PURCHASE maybe, ownership absolutely fucking not - leave that up to the states as it currently is. In some areas (ie: mine) you pretty much don't leave the house without some kind of firearm. Coyotes, snakes, etc.

are you suggesting that the police ought to employ dishonest tact specifically to circumvent a constitutionally imposed restriction on their powers?
before a cop can inititate a fictional "normal chat" he needs permission to spend his time doing so and his supervisor will demand reasonable suspicion before granting that permission. regardless of whether or not a police officer could get away with violating our constitutional rights by pretending to be nice.

we literally dont have to guess. The reason for the bill of rights is the first paragraph of it
>THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.

being in the military has nothing to do with brain development

also why join the army at a young age, just get blown up in your prime, sounds stressful

That's not their fault, it's the parents fault, Gen X and boomers are to blame for dumbing down everyone

if he had a father in the home he wouldnt be a cucked 21 year old neet living with his parents.

isnt there a threshold of gun control which is irrelevant? Imagine civil conflict broke out. The restrictions on bump stocks wouldnt matter because people would be converting what guns can be converted to full auto. Age restrictions will be irrelevant too. All that will matter is if the physical gun has a clear path to free hands, and ammo helps.
In a theoretical civil war scenario.

Sensible think

no they are going to do red flag laws and take them from militia members and if you try to fight the government it justifies having done red flag laws and they swat people just to take them

delta team in position. bravo team go
*flash bang explodes and burns some 12 year old kids face with friction alone from a point blank detonation
*front and back doors kicked in
move go go go . drop it ! drop it !
*married couple of 15 years gunned down in their own home while making dinner

sweep and clear spec ops the line

here the thing, alot of these mass shooting faggots could easily use a semi auto glock but they choose m16 ak variants because they have a COD suicide fantasy. The fact that many of them are so young means they arent mature enough. What worse is lets say you want take back the white race. Why waste your freedom killing randos, why not join the military get skills and come back to be a complete badass for when SHTF

very much this plus their warrior/predators urges would have curbed by hunting in the woods for food to keep the family alive. if these civ does fall, then i think certain things need to change like women and men being married off earlier for starters.

Literally nothing you stated has a damn thing to do with what I did. My son, who is currently 6, will own his own rifle at 14. I'm not going to keep him cooped up in the house simply because YOU don't want him to be able to protect himself from the shit commonly found on my land. Deal with it.

i also stated
>plus their warrior/predators urges would have curbed by hunting in the woods for food

...

That’s very coincidental. What’s his Jew MK ultra new age faggot father have to say?

i imagine quickly after gun seizures began there'd be push back. I dont know how many officers would have to die before they started second guessing the postings. I am certain if they started escalating the force used for officer safety it'd trigger an escalation that local police arent equipped to handle.

Le Cercle insider here, I'll drop you guys a little clue

Where did he get the money to buy the weapon

Don’t forget :
>lower age of consent
>raise age limit on abortion

States could I think

Red flag laws would make it possible for anyone who dislikes you to simply says you’re nuts and you lose guns. Good thing I lost mine in a boating accident 3 months ago. Smh. Shoulda insured them... sigh.. I was primitive camping on the shore and am a pussy about feral hogs. Shoulda been more chad and left them home.

He is there at the behest of a citizen (the mother).

Lets do a thought experiment here. Say the mom knows a guy that is a police officer and asks him to talk to her son. Would that be ok or not. I think that is obviously ok. Now she calls the PD. The PD says, yeah there is no crime here, but she is concerned. Can the PD talk to the son. There is still no evidence of a crime, but why not. In every case the son has all his constitutional rights, and can tell the officer to fuck right off.

I mean hell, say some random guys dogs are barking all night, and some random lady calls the PD. Is it wrong for the PD to send a cruser by and say, "sir, we have had some complaints about noise, just letting you know". The guy can refuse to answer the door, or tell the officer to fuck off, and that's that.

Wait. Did you actually could buy guns before be able to buy alcohol???
>Muricans

Okay but raise the voting age and military enlistment age to match.