So when did people on Jow Forums realize socialism is the only true way to go...

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strawman

Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership of the means of production and workers' self-management,[10] as well as the political theories and movements associated with them.[11] Social ownership can be public, collective or cooperative ownership, or citizen ownership of equity.[12] There are many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them,[13] with social ownership being the common element shared by its various forms.[5][14][15]

yea the people owning the factories and making it a democratic system,the tyranny

>when did you decide to be a retard Jow Forums?

Shut up fag, I have a political system for you. It's called "fuck off". It's a really simple political system. ALL you have to do is "fuck off" because you don't own me. Period. End of story. You just don't own me. You don't own my shit. You don't tell me what I can and can't do. You know why? Cuz you're a faggot, and you're not me. And you don't own me. Period.

So "fuck off" with your fucking "slavery is freedom!" Orwellian bullshit, niggerfaggot.

yes you don't own me,the rich don't own me ether,and you don't own the rich in socialism you can make factories a democratic system,do you hate democracy or don't you see that when a small group of people own something that isn't democratic where it be a country or factory?

if your a dictator you don't just say "you don't own me,i an do what i want because i'm not you" you got that power because of the people,so the people should decide what happens with the power,if it works for a country why not a factory?

>YOU'RE NOT GOD, OR MY FATHER, OR MY BOSS!
God Americans are just caricatures at this point

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>So "fuck off" with your fucking "slavery is freedom!" Orwellian bullshit,

you know this is pretty ironic

fun fact,orwell was a socialist

kek, pure kino

Awww, I remember being 12 too OP.

>Strawman

Are you fucking retarded? These were actual socialists in their comfortzone

i was a capitalist when i was 12,luckily i grew out of it

/thread

When Jewgle started to shut down stuff. THen I left libertarianism and became a full-on natsoc

have you seem that "lying ted" crowd?but i don't say all right wing supporters are like that right?

youtube.com/watch?v=EkCifM0kDd0

Based.

Difference is, those retards are probably all doing menial jobs like plumbing, farm work, factory work etc. Which actually contributes to the economy instead of gibs socialist retards who did a course at community college and blogs

All isms are lies. And followers npc's

we realised socialism is the way to go a long time ago
it's called NATIONAL socialism

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Got a loicense for those bants, guvna?

Just watch that conference and see how many legit autists are there complaining about noise.

How old are you? This answer will give everyone great insight into why you feel lile socialism is a dumb thing.
We, as a community, can then help you see why your opinion may or may not be your own.

Leftist socialism is cringe larping with no direct action.

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i think these people are insane,most trump supporters think these people are insane,the same principle applies,if we would judge ideologie on supporters well,orwell was a socialist,ghandi was a socialist,martin luther king was a socialist,i can go on,these people don't make socialism any less valid

Is that the video about too much whispering and muh sensory overload? Everything about that is so fucking cringe.
And to think these people are voting to take away other people's freedoms.

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>Effortposting and not knowing about IDs
Stop embarrassing us, Pierre

Lol what a fucking retarded statement. At 12 you have no concept of working or paying taxes and the seeing of your taxes go towards people who don't do shit.

For me. It was the numbers of dead.
The big piles of bodies.
Being allowed to shoot people in the back of the head.
We have all that social justice shit to begin with but later... the killing. All that sweet, sweet killing of unbelievers. Doesn't it make you fucking horny?

imagine loving a jew

Let me guess your next talking point: Le Nordic Model (Which is a paper tiger, coming from a yuropoor rn). Its always brought up by socialists and its retarded since Sweden heavily privatised in the 90s due to the economy going into the shitter.

Pure socialism always leads to brain drain .ie doctors, scientists and the smartest cookies leaving the country, a power vacuum allowing a single entity to grasp the balls of the entire country, inflation due to the strain of a completely publoc service economy not healthy in growth and is an economic black hole and total and utter mis managment

This is coming from a previously well read commie who still has Imperialism by V.I Lenin in his closet among other books

Don't force your ideology on other people

i knew about all those things when i was 12,i knew what social security was,i knew what taxes where and i knew what work is,i'm pretty sure most 12 year old know about those things

You won't be the commune's poet...you'll be plowing the fields like every other sorry sap that buys into this shit.

im not a commie,i'm a syndicalist with extra steps

There is a huge fucking difference between "knowing about it" and actually doing it.
That's like saying you watched a YouTube video now you are qualified to be a doctor

> oh, yes, I want tax to death working class and turn my country in to Eternal GULAG, how could you tell?

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if you had years of theory you probably would be a okay doctor even without practice

So you cant even be a commie without wanting to be a special butterfly. Face it, your "Comrades" are all bottom of the barrel pussies who are bourgeois as fuck in comparison to my working class family. Its always the poncy little fags in highschool who had a leg up in life who think themselves the messiahs of the working class when I had to work in 30 degree celsius weather for 9 hours a day im the summer to keep my Father's business afloat and they would then have the fucking nerve to say my father was a traitor to the working class because his and my hardwork paid off while they receive handouts for bullshit disabilities from the government.

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I look forward to killing socialists in their "revolution."

im objectify not a commie,i don't believe in equal outcome

But, you don't currently own the factories. You didn't put in the risk and effort of purchasing them and making them operable. You are literally talking about taking someone's livelihood who already took the risk in the name of social justice, as if the guy who took the risk doesn't deserve the rewards.
Why are socialist so gung-ho for "social ownership of someones elses business" instead of starting their own business and controlling it together with a group of people?

so i believe in social classes,which would not make me a commie,i also believe state,altho limited should exist

"i give you something and get something back in return"that's the philosophy of the free market right?well in a free market it's impossible for that to occur as a negotiation,a free system can only exist with a free people,and right now the few powerful use their power to take the freedom from the rest away,that isn't freedom,that's privilege,right now the powerful can use their power(money)to pass it onto their offspring,which sounds like a expression of freedom at first,and for THEM it is,but it creates a system where someone is rich or poor outside of their own power,which makes the world as a whole less free,we live in a system where commercials can make a product more profitable,a commercial doesn't make the world a better place or the product better,it makes the pockets of the people involved fuller,right now we live in a oligarchy where a few companies negotiate decide to give everyone the same bad treatment and use their power to crush anyone who has a more ethical but less profitable business practice,this is how slavery existed even when a lot of people were against it,and that is why only truy democracy we can make the world better,not truy the tyranny of the rich

Under socialism I would be publicly executed.

You are delusional as fuck if you are actually defending the idea that watching YouYube videos on medicine qualifies you to practice medicine.
If you support socialism, and you agree with such a moronix statement, then you have told me everything I need to know about people just like you who are also supporting socialism

i never said anything about a youtube video

Well you definitely arent a balls to the wall worker then. Every man who worked with me and including myself understood that its a fucking dog eat dog world with the unions doing fuck all except get more bloated with cash while they throw hissy fits about helping the lower members. Its a shitshow and my Father isnt even in one. Most workers think commies and socialists are all talk pussies who try to piggy back on our hardwork to espouse their bullshit while they mentally masturbate to the thought of being a socialist poet after the revolution is done.

Sincerely go fuck yourself. Better dead than red

Cuck

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also your using the "the supporters are dumb so the ideologie is",a lot of intelligent people where and are socialist,a lot of right wing people are idiots,you can't use that argument because its a stupid one

>A lot of right wing people are idiots

So farmers, builders, plumbers etc.?

When did you realize Pinochet did nothing wrong?

yes,i'm not sucking the workers dick and saying there all amazing because i think they should be free

That's right fag, I don't own you, that's why I don't tell you what to do, or what you can and can't do. And I don't walk into your house and say "your stuff is now my stuff". fucking dumbass.
WTF are you talking about faggot? Here I'll say it again, it's really simple. It's a political system called "Fuck off". I don't care about your power. I don't care about your stupid whining and bitching. I don't care about your faggot dictators. You and everyone else who wants to tell me what to do, and how to live my life, and tell me that they own my stuff can FUCK OFF. It's really simple.

You just "fuck off" it's legit that simple. No fancy academics. No fancy books. No pretentious discussions about fake economics and ideas that don't even really work or mean anything in the real world. You can drop all that BS. You literally just have to "fuck off".

And in return, I "fuck off" and don't tell you how to live your life either. You get that, you weak faggot? That's how it works. The only problem arises when you start being a weak faggot who can't deal with his own shit in life, so you start coming around my neck of the woods, in my neighborhood, and start saying "this is mine, this is mine, this is mine, this is mine, this is mine" like some niggerbrained 2 year old toddler who literally thinks he "owns" everything he touches.

So just "fuck off". Literally all you need to do is "fuck off". Period. Faggot.

>"your stuff is now my stuff"

i'm not advocating for the abolishment of private property,if you think i am read a history book or ask a socialist

>>well in a free market it's impossible for that to occur as a negotiation
You can choose to not work there you fucking brainlet
Oligarthies are not an excuse to completely rehaul the economic system. Oligarthies should be disrupted or else you get $500 shots of insulin. I can agree with this part of your argument, but that is it.
Also, I don't unserstand why socialists are so against, say Bill Gates, handing down his fortune to his children at some point in his life. Why are you entitled to his life's worth? Do you think it is a sin to pass off wealth to your children? Is that too much privilege that you would rather not pass on something to your own child? This is assuming inheritance, which is not a bad thing. You nor anyone else is entitled to it.
And are you seriously debating commercials? As in, tv commercials?

If by socialism you mean National Socialism, I became a Nazi a couple years back.

>WTF are you talking about faggot? Here I'll say it again, it's really simple. It's a political system called "Fuck off". I don't care about your power. I don't care about your stupid whining and bitching. I don't care about your faggot dictators. You and everyone else who wants to tell me what to do, and how to live my life, and tell me that they own my stuff can FUCK OFF. It's really simple.

You just "fuck off" it's legit that simple. No fancy academics. No fancy books. No pretentious discussions about fake economics and ideas that don't even really work or mean anything in the real world. You can drop all that BS. You literally just have to "fuck off".

And in return, I "fuck off" and don't tell you how to live your life either. You get that, you weak faggot? That's how it works. The only problem arises when you start being a weak faggot who can't deal with his own shit in life, so you start coming around my neck of the woods, in my neighborhood, and start saying "this is mine, this is mine, this is mine, this is mine, this is mine" like some niggerbrained 2 year old toddler who literally thinks he "owns" everything he touches.

So just "fuck off". Literally all you need to do is "fuck off". Period. Faggot.
>i'm not mad

When i head hitler tall about National Socialism.

I DONT GIVE A FUCK WHAT YOURE "ADVOCATING" FOR, YOU WEAK FAGGOT. I AM TELLING YOU TO "FUCK OFF". TO LIVE YOUR OWN FUCKING LIFE AND LEAVE OTHER PEOPLE THE FUCK ALONE. YOU DONT OWN THEM. YOU'RE NOT GOD. YOU'RE NOT SMART. YOU'RE NOT "GOOD". YOU'RE NOT "MORAL". YOU'RE NOT "A 21ST CENTURY PHILOSOPHER". YOU'RE JUST A FUCKING FAGGOT. A ROTTEN, DECAYING PILE OF FLESH WHO SHITS, EATS AND PISSES AND WHOSE ASSHOLE IS ROTTING OUT WITH FAGGOTAIDS BECAUSE HE'S SUCH A WEAK FUCKING FAGGOT.

FUCK OFF AND LIVE YOUR OWN FAGGOT LIFE, AND STOP TELLING OTHER PEOPLE HOW TO LIVE. THAT'S IT FAGGOT. I KEEP TELLING YOU OVER AND OVER, THE POLITICAL PHILOSOPHY IS REALLY SIMPLE. IT'S JUST CALLED "FUCK OFF".

im not against bill gates

im against him making his children kings

>I realized I was a socialist when I first heard Bernie in 2016
>1 post by this ID

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We are free, free to build our businesses and earn profits. Something entirely fucked over by a tax heavy socialist state that only lets you get anywhere if you pay lip service to said state. You know what is a funny bit of irony? While on your ivory tower of bullshit, you forget to realize that its a common trend across the world that the more rural areas are more "Right wing" while the metropolitan centers are more socialist. Isnt it funny that the people you claim to want to set free are the ones propping up the bourgois lifestyle of city dwellers as they get government money for doing fuck all except protest and do fuck all?

Someone said: i learned about taxes when I was 12 so I know taxes
>>I said: there is a difference between knowing and actually doing. I made the reference "that's like saying watching youtube videoes qualifies you to be a doctor"
To which was replied: well, theoretically, that could work

Which is so stupid a comment to make.

Please do not use gendered language to address everyone *heavy breathing*

like i said,im against heritage because it makes only the person free but not the world,try to become the CEO of walmart,you can't because someone got that place handed to him,and you cant start a walmart like company because the market is already taken

Marxism ruined socialism forever it's a zombie ideology now

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National socialism.

Not commie/lefty/Lenin socialism.

Big difference, kike

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Strasserism is communism.

Check em

HERE'S ANOTHER IDEA FOR YOU, YOU WEAK GAY SOCIALIST FAGGOT. GO GET A FUCKING PATCH OF LAND FOR LIKE 10K. SPLIT THE COST WITH LIKE 10 OTHER PEOPLE. 1K EACH. YOU CAN GET ACCCCCCCRES OF LAND IN THE USA TODAY FOR THAT MUCH MONEY. FARMABLE LAND. AND YOU CAN BUILD YOUR SHIT ON IT. AND FARM YOUR SHIT ON IT. ALL VERY CHEAP. ESP IF YOU'RE SPLITTING THE COST WITH 10 OTHER PEOPLE, YOU'VE GOT YOUR OWN BUSINESS AND YOU ALL OWN A PART OF IT.

YOU CAN LITERALLY DO THIS TODAY. IF YOU WANT "COMMUNAL OWNERSHIP OF THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION" YOU CAN LITERALLY FUCKING COCKSUCKING DO THIS TODAY.

AND YOU CAN LIVE A LITTLE GAY FAGGOT LIFE, WITH ALL OF YOUR LITTLE GAY FAGGOT SOCIALIST FRIENDS, AND YOU CAN POZ EACHOTHER IN THE ASSHOLES UNTIL YOUR SHIT ROTS OUT, AND HOLD HANDS, AND DO DRUGS, AND BE A BUNCH OF GAY FAGGOT SOCIALISTS TOGETHER.

THAT IS LITERALLY THE FUCKING BEAUTY OF CAPITALISM. IF YOU WANT TO BE A FUCKING SOCIALIST AND SHARE THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION, YOU CAN DO IT UNDER CAPITALISM.

SO EITHER DO THAT, OR JUST FUCK THE FUCK OFF, YOU INSUFFERABLE DISGUSTTING AIDS RIDDEN FAGGOT.

if you learned about economy in a classroom you don't have to a lumberjack to understand how they affect economy

Well, if you like mass shootings I guess it's the best way to go.

i have a fundamental problem with the system,the system doesn't allow me to do as you say and that way solve the problem

> Bernie Sanders
> a socialist
OP waa once again discovered to be a typical useless liberal redneck

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>HERE'S ANOTHER IDEA FOR YOU, YOU WEAK GAY SOCIALIST FAGGOT. GO GET A FUCKING PATCH OF LAND FOR LIKE 10K. SPLIT THE COST WITH LIKE 10 OTHER PEOPLE. 1K EACH. YOU CAN GET ACCCCCCCRES OF LAND IN THE USA TODAY FOR THAT MUCH MONEY. FARMABLE LAND. AND YOU CAN BUILD YOUR SHIT ON IT. AND FARM YOUR SHIT ON IT. ALL VERY CHEAP. ESP IF YOU'RE SPLITTING THE COST WITH 10 OTHER PEOPLE, YOU'VE GOT YOUR OWN BUSINESS AND YOU ALL OWN A PART OF IT.
>YOU CAN LITERALLY DO THIS TODAY. IF YOU WANT "COMMUNAL OWNERSHIP OF THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION" YOU CAN LITERALLY FUCKING COCKSUCKING DO THIS TODAY.
>AND YOU CAN LIVE A LITTLE GAY FAGGOT LIFE, WITH ALL OF YOUR LITTLE GAY FAGGOT SOCIALIST FRIENDS, AND YOU CAN POZ EACHOTHER IN THE ASSHOLES UNTIL YOUR SHIT ROTS OUT, AND HOLD HANDS, AND DO DRUGS, AND BE A BUNCH OF GAY FAGGOT SOCIALISTS TOGETHER.
>THAT IS LITERALLY THE FUCKING BEAUTY OF CAPITALISM. IF YOU WANT TO BE A FUCKING SOCIALIST AND SHARE THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION, YOU CAN DO IT UNDER CAPITALISM.
>SO EITHER DO THAT, OR JUST FUCK THE FUCK OFF, YOU INSUFFERABLE DISGUSTTING AIDS RIDDEN FAGGOT.

OH WAIT, EXCEPT LITERALLY NONE OF YOU SOCIALIST FAGS EVER ACTUALLY DO THIS! HMMMMMM, I WONDER WHY. OH WAIT, I KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY AN OBJECTIVELY HORRIBLE FUCKING IDEA AND NOBODY WOULD EVER ACTUALLY WANT TO SHARE THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION. IT'S A NIGHTMARE IN EVERY SENSE OF THE WORD. YOU DISAGREE? THEN PROVE ME WRONG AND GO DO IT FAGGOT. LITERALLY NOTHING ON EARTH IS STOPPING YOU OR STANDING IN YOUR WAY EXCEPT THE FACT THAT YOU ARE 100% FULL OF SHIT. JUST LIKE ALL YOUR SOCIALIST FAGGOT FRIENDS.

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So...if your parent(s) die, you don't want them to leave you an inheritance? Rwtirement money, Car, insurance money, house, personal belongings? You really think no one is entitled to those things? That once a person dies, all of their monetary and/or physical pocessions now belong to gibs? What in the actual fuck dude.
Why can't Bill Gates leave his money to his kids? Why the fuck do you think you get to make that decision for him? You are a fucking gib from that statement alone

IT LITERALLY DOES. IT LITERALLY DOES ALLOW YOU TO DO AS I SAY AND PEOPLE DO IT ALL DAY, EVERY DAY. ALL ACROSS THE WORLD AND COUNTRY. THEY'RE CALLED "FARMERS" AND THEY LIVE IN PLACES THAT SOCIALISTS FUCKING DISDAIN AND THEY WEAR MAGA HATS AND THEY'RE CAPITALISTS, AND THEY'RE THE PEOPLE LIKE ME CONSTANTLY TELLING YOU TO "FUCK OFF".

THERE IS LITERALLY NOTHING STOPPING YOU. NOTHING. LITERALLY. LITERALLY NOTHING STOPPING YOU FROM DOING IT. DO IT BY YOURSELF, OR DO IT COMMUNALLY AND "SHARE THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION" IF THAT'S YOUR FAGGOT DEAL. LITERALLY NOTHING STOPPING YOU.

EXCEPT THE FACT THAT YOU ARE A WEAK POS AIDSRIDDEN FAGGOT WHO NEEDS TO LEARN TO "FUCK OFF" OUT OF OTHER PEOPLES LIVES.

What do you do for work, gomrade?

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LAND IS SO CHEAP, IT'S FUCKING DISGUSTING. THERE IS LITERALLY NOTHING STOPPING YOU. THE ONLY OBSTACLES THAT EVEN EXIST MARGINALLY ARE THE TAXES AND REGULATIONS THAT FUCKING COCKSUCKER DEMOCRATS AND SOCIALISTS LIKE YOURSELVES CREATED FOR YOUR DUMB FAGGOT SELVES.

a king should leave his power to their sons,bill gates shouldn't to,the king might be free but the world wouldn't,equal opportunity means everyone should have the same start in liev and there skills should determine success

Bullshit, you just want free money and you think socialism will provivde it. There is no fucking way I am willing to believe you want to work sixty hours a week for your room and board a loaf of bread and a roll of toilet paper. So you musty have some bullshit idea of what socialism is.
> From each according to ability to each according to need
Know what that^ means asshole?

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