How would Marxists explain Brexit?
A no-deal Brexit is pretty much in nobody’s economic interest and so represents a victory of the ideas over material interests.
How do Marxist retards explain this idealist triumph over material dialectics nonsense?
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>thinks marxism is about economics
You need to be put down for good
Marxist who really believe in their theories are just to naive to see that they got manipulated by small percentage of Jewish elite.
uh, yes
Marxism is "about economics"
a central pillar of Marxism is materialism, or the idea that all politics can only be explained through material conditions and interests (vis a vis abstract ideas like nationalism, religion, etc.)
Brexit seems to refute Marxism then
Its no-deal schlomo. Get over it.
The far left in this country love Brexit anyway, so they're probably already thought about it. They just don't want the Tories doing it.
>A no-deal Brexit is pretty much in nobody’s economic interest
Short sellers, vulture capitalists, people interested in destroying the social welfare system of the UK by aligning it closer to the US
Far left
> thought
You're going about this all wrong chief.
Remainers favourite argument is that we'll swap poles for poos, they have no sense of their own racism (and this is the anti-racist left we're talking about
There is somewhat of a fraction in the Labour party.
The socialists or socialists leaning (aka corbynites) want Brexit. Corbyn called it a bankers club. Plus, leaving would make it easier for them to nationalise industries.
The Blairites in the party want to remain.
>Short sellers, vulture capitalists
Neither of these are distinct classes
>people interested in destroying the social welfare system of the UK by aligning it closer to the US
Possibly, but by most predictions a no-deal Brexit would fucking wreck the UK economy and send it down at least several percentages of GDP
Capitalists can tolerate slower growth if it means more social power for them (see: Kalecki's Political Aspects of Full Employment), but a real fucking near-permanent hit close to 10%, combined with a reduced freedom of movement for capital? I'm having trouble believing even the most bloodsucking of oligarchs can stomach that.
You can also see how the big companies and public oligarchs are virtually unanimously pro-europe.
I doubt Corbyn wants to leave the EU
He can't now, because as the opposition party he sort of has to be against brexit.
But in an ideal world he would leave. He's completely against the EUs neoliberalism.
Its a capitalist wetdream for some hard liners.
Read about "Britannia Unchained". A majority of the authors are in Johnsons government.
>All of the five free-market Thatcherites that contributed to 'Britannia Unchained'(2012) now have key roles in an extremely rightwing, no-deal Brexit, Boris Johnson government, elected by less than 1% of the electorate.
It's terrifying to contemplate this group of ideological, economic illiterates in power, determined to make the rich even richer and the poor even poorer."
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You don't have to worry about us, get your own shit in order before giving advice.
Marxism is about revolution.
Everything that leads to revolution is truth and everything that doesn't is lie.
I wasn't talking to you.
>an only be explained through material conditions and interests
island nations are socially xenophobic because historically their separation has provided them strong defensive advantages. They tended to become powerful during the mercantile and early industrial eras because being an island nation required them to develop capable naval power.
All of these things fostered ideas of separateness and independence as virtues and a sense and superiority within society.
It is these social qualities which were created by those material conditions that are responsible for the general discontent over the idea of the EU
The sufferings still latent in memory from ww2 also understandably provides a pressure to dislike and distrust the german.
>island nations are socially xenophobic
Also
I've heard these platitudes repeated ad nauseam, but they're patently untrue. The BoJo crowd are idealists, not the cartoon villain with the top hat and the monocle you seem to imagine them as. That notion is ridiculous, because they lack the big-bank backing that liberal and more kosher/profitable conservatives have. They want life to be more self-determined and less pre-regulated. Less taxes and regulations weighing down on growing middle class businesses, less welfare systems and redistribution from the working population towards ungrateful hostiles. The only accurate inference in the above posts is that they would rather do away with parts of the social welfare system. Which I welcome, as it only burdens the working population and creates incentives towards the beneficiaries of it/welfare recipients to demand even more welfare to burden the same 'straight white males' they hate so much even more. As to how hating a demographic and living off of them plays together, see here
I also recommend you to read Red Symphony by Josif Landowsky i don't know if it's falsified but for sure many thesis are true.
>but they're patently untrue
They literally wrote a book about it, and are now in the government.
> expecting a sheltered whiteboi to know what London or all of UK is like.
Maybe you should actually read it, and you wouldn't rattle down a misleading summary from an online article.
Marxism leninism says that the revolution will come from a crisis, if the brexit causes a crisis then it is in the marxists interests
France-Germany don’t the UK in the EU, when Brexit finally happen the EU will become a federalizes country with it’s own Military (end of NATO) and the Euro will become the world reserve currency ending USD hegemony.
Is gonna be the end of Anglo-American world order and is gonna be bad for the Jews.
Stop using our flag, anglo rat.
>Maybe you should actually read it, and you wouldn't rattle down a misleading summary from an online article.
What exactly is misleading?
Are you fuckign kidding me?
That was a bluff. I didn't read it either, but based off of cases about books where I did read it and people talking mad shit about their contents, I made a guess. Your offense-taking gives further reason to believe my pattern recognition led me the right way.
First the (((third hand account))), now this. You are pretty prone to making assumptions, aren't you?
JEW!
Oh my, a literal retard.
Most Marxists are bourgeois impostors.
And who is supporting brexit and whos opposing it?
The qualities of being an island nation no logner exist with the current level of communication and integration younger people have grown up with, and which has shaped their society. And so they do not see these things are virtues. It is again simply the material conditions at play. The conditions have changed, and so the resulting society of the old conditions phases out as the society of the new conditions phases in.
By the way, I finally remember what all this fearmongering about Brexit like that itt always reminds me of.
I'm sure everyone has had their encounter with one of those. You would be walking from one place to another in a town or a city, maybe you're moving from or towards public transport, maybe you're walking from one building to another, but either way, you're on the streets. And you either get outright stopped, or at least your attention gets drawn to a certain strange person. They will be a man with a big sign around their neck with something written on it that relates to what they're talking about.
As to what they so insistently want to talk about to you, it involves sentences like
> Repent as long as you can! For the end of all things is nigh!
> The end of days is soon to come, the signs of the book of Revelation are already on the horizon!
I'm talking of course, of Doomsday Preachers. Religious nutcases that are convinced that the literal end of the world is just about to happen. The end times are just around the corner. We're all going to die any fucking day now. And of course, it never actually happens. But they are so convinced of it, WHEN they're doing the preaching.
Likewise, morons falling for economically motivated anti-brexit pieces actually believe all this nonsense about how the entire economy is going to collapse because some salty upper class twit is going to sell their shares of a stock or a security or some other financial paper, making the financial market less profitable for the glorified welfare recipients known as 'financial traders' aka the 'brokerage industry'. Who's parasitism due to sheer naivete, many gullible people who draw their knowledge of how finance works, exclusively from 'The Economist' articles, use as the only metric for the overall wealth of the population of a country.
> reduced to insults devoid of arguments
Well what can I say to that?
>How do Marxist retards explain this idealist triumph over material dialectics nonsense?
Same way he would explain the British workers refusing to process American cotton grown by slaves in the 1800s?
you've gone full pseud
You don't even know the book, let alone bother to look at the amzon page I provided.
Their blueprint for why they want to Brexit is there:
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Which specific brit did you have in mind then?
Even the summary you keep linking to doesn't say anything about how we need to make the rich richer. It's notions like "[group that the big banks, eurocrats and the mouthpieces thereof disapprove of] want to make the rich richer" that make your view come across more like a Disney cartoon than an estimate about a real group of people. If they were intent on making the rich richer, the same rich that are the owners, editors and friends of editors of the rags you draw your world view from - wouldn't we see a non-stop monsoon of articles about what wonderful people they are, how they are a blessing on humanity and how we should do everything they say? But instead, we get doomsday preaching.
> be afraid
> investors might pull out
> muh financial markets
> don't vote brexit, the economy will collapse
> all of Britain will collapse, everyone is going to die!
Don't you think a little skepticism would be in order?