I'm a lifetime Democrat switching to Republican side over this issue. As a Feminist I support the nordic model, but at very least a full criminalization over legalization. This is why I'm voting Republican this election, as a feminist this goes against my values. This is just like when I almost voted Bush in 2004 because when Eminem disrespected women and the FCC rightfully removed him from air, the Democrats through a hissy fit crying censorship when that's not protected speech. Now I have to switch sides again and vote Republican to stand up for women's rights.
It would harm less people in the end. As your incel problem can vanish overnight.
Evan Cook
>As your incel problem can vanish overnight. Wouldn't we also solve the incel problem by arresting them when they try to see prostitutes and throwing them away and locking away the key?
If capitalism has irreversibly instrumentalized human relationships then let's just push through and go deeper and apply that logic to sex
Camden Fisher
That's why I hate capitalism.
Nathan Roberts
Prostitution isn't bad when it's pros, thier for everybody. Problem is when trafficking occurs and or some one is being forced to prostitute themselves either for a pimp or to feed thier family. Thier should be other options but if chosen it shouldn't be a issue between adults
Wyatt Cook
It's just paid for sex, Mao
Ryder Ross
Prostitution would solve the incel problem. Mas shootings would end over night
Justin Lewis
When you legalize it, you actually fix the 2nd problem.
When it's legalized, it's almost only pros with the odd unregulated one breaking the law, though they probably don't face punishment.
It's better than having retarded adults watching porn all day, when they can literally go out and pay for sex from a pro, and it's not all that much money.
Ayden Morales
>Government regulated pussies What the fuck
Aiden Barnes
And it's legal here too, even though I'd never do it, I can see why lots of young men would.
I think only the ugly chicks that want better looking dudes for relations are against it.
Julian Gutierrez
Doesn't matter if its legal or not, it's still exploitation. It's like saying it should be legal to pay homeless men to eat shit, sure if it's """"regulated""" no one will be forced into it, but that's a sick exploitative soceity where people pay homeless people to eat shit. It's technically "consentual" but it's exploitative.
>Mao As if being anti-prostitution is authoritarian, every Western nation by that logic is communist
Or we could just arrest the incels when they go to see prostitutes and imprison them so they can't do shootings.
Luke Murphy
If all those women are attractive why not just get married lmao?
Justin Perry
thats what we do now. has "the problem" gone away? nope
Logan Torres
> paying for biological functions makes complete sense
Pay toilets are a great idea too
Christian Lopez
>prostitution =/= sex work Huh?
Nicholas Smith
So if I pay a chinese lady $100 to milk me, should I rot in prison with thieves and sex offenders?
Lincoln James
It's legal here, regulated, and all voluntary.
We have zero problems with it, and neither do the prostitutes.
You only run into problems when it's illegal, as there's no protections in place.
Porn is unironically more harmful for society.
Camden Wood
>Now I'm Voting Republican As a Feminist Stupid roastie. You can't be a feminist and a Republican. Can't have your cake and eat it too.
Luis Moore
I agree with you, its strange though... I think prostitution should be legal/regulated and porn banned.
Colton Howard
Feminists don't like prostitution, because sex is their power, and they don't want to trade it cheap. More incels, more fem control.
Asher Gomez
>sex slavery harms less people >women taking advantage of mentally ill men harms less people Sure.
Elijah Cook
>As a Feminist I support the nordic model You mean the model which criminalizes speech (DON'T QUESTION THE SIXTY BILLION), is super restrictive on guns, taxes people to the point of blowing up gov't tax buildings, is literally pozzed up the ass, and which imports millions of shitskin savages which will have to be removed in bloody martial conflict, resulting in the deaths of millions of natives?
Shut up and make me a sandwich you stupid bitch.
Dominic Hall
> hot chick waves you down as you drive by > think twice.... Why not turn bout >>and talk on shoulder or street. > she flirts too good to be true ((( it is))) > hey user lets get a room... Bam your arrested for soliciting It's done daily and entrapment, using bobs and vag to entrap is a crime itself Get a new racket besides exploiting men for money, these stings are worse than prostitution
Noah Ross
That feminist is talking about criminalizing "johns", in other words criminalizing people seeking prostitutes. In reality, prostitutes should be arrested and put in centers where they can be freed from being sex slaves.
Nolan Rivera
>stripping naked and screaming for attention in the street >novels about literal BDSM sex slavery are best selling books of all time with sales driven by women >speaking out against pedophile rings will get you put in prison in countries with female monarchs >speaking out against gang rapes in the street and "sexual emergencies" will get you shunned and hated in female-led countries >every country led by women or controlled by feminists and feminist ideology demands more immigration from third world shit holes where misogyny is the norm
>and now females are literally demanding to be sex objects
Actions speak louder than words, do they not? And what do women's actions say to you? But why should we legalize prostitution? Why should we pay for it when, according to women's own actions, they would rather men simply take it by force? Isn't it time we put women in their place?
Mentally ill and alienated men pay for sex because they don't think that they have much or any choice but to pay. Prostitution involves human trafficking (pc word for slavery) on one end and taking advantage of mentally ill men on the other. It's sick.
Parker Sullivan
There pussies must be so loose you wouldn't feel any friction even with both arms inserted. I mean look at their faces.....
>They look old and ragged. Used and abused for money. No dignity left.
Jason Bailey
Legalized prostitution isn't sex slavery, it's all voluntary.
It's legal here and no one is harmed.
As I said, porn is worst, as you get unrealistic expectations when you watch it; a young man going to a pro is far more educational if that's what they want.
Juan Perry
So you agree that we should not legalize prostitution? Why pay when we don't have to? Why allow women to usurp the natural order? Why allow women to take advantage of men when men have the power to change this? Why not put women where they belong?
Jaxson Wright
Buddy of mine has an entire hotel filled to the brim with Venezuelan girls he smuggled here and puts those hoes to work. 80 bucks half hour 120 for the hour. These girls don’t even look bad, some of em are straight 10s.
Henry Bailey
Prostitutiou=/=sex work IDIOT
Jackson Roberts
you fucked up by posting that in here dumbass
Liam Morris
>Prostitution would solve the incel problem. No it wouldn't. If you're too awkward to get laid, you're not going to have the guts to hire a hooker.
Oliver Price
Now you're getting it. Slutty Cumbuckets in every public toilet like in the animes.
Noah Bailey
Let's be real, you only have a problem with this because thirsty betas can pay for pussy instead of settling for you.
Luis Howard
I like the idea, but also no sex outside of marriage, and stoning women to death if they break the law. God demands this.
Grayson Allen
I’m a pedophile Hey! Hey FBI! I’m a pedophile!!!!!
Connor Carter
Ah my trashy city New York, all debauchery and degeneracy is fair play, but lawful possession of a firearm for the protection of your own home. Never. Can you believe they tell us that global warming's gonna put us under water like that's a bad thing. Fuckin clowns. Least I can use the whore after she takes my without suckin.
Angel Ramirez
Who cares bro, just pimp some thots out and make some money.
Thomas Carter
You are a sex buyer and thus already a sex offender
Democrats are the new anti-women party, they want to legalize prostitution
They aren't running enough stings
Blake Carter
Don't listen to these pussies. Tell a horny John where he can get that Latina hook up. Miami, NYC, Not Jersey?
Liam Gomez
You fucked up big time Bill, it's over, you are DONE for good, you are knee deep into the muddy waters of Oklahoma country boy. Take a horse, I won't charge you, but get lost, now.
Ryan Mitchell
This, men who have sex with women they aren't married to are mentally ill scum.
Nathan Lopez
Capitalism is but a tool used to decrease poverty and increase productivity. It's our society, the handler, that is rotten and degenerate to the core.
Aiden Richardson
Prostitution should be legal and done through brothels so the whore are kept safe and get regular testing.
Luke Williams
Sick fuck kys
Jackson Nguyen
That's the inevitable result of democracy.
Gabriel King
If a man has sex outside marriage he is sick, not only is he exploiting women but he's being taken advantage of being told to be "macho" and shammed into not being a virgin which is toxic masculinity.
Adam Thomas
>If a man has sex outside marriage he is sick That's not a feminist ideal, but a patriarchal one.
Kayden Martin
>Legalized prostitution isn't sex slavery, it's all voluntary. False. Countries which have legalize prostitution have seen increase of human trafficking related to prostitution. orgs.law.harvard.edu/lids/2014/06/12/does-legalized-prostitution-increase-human-trafficking/ >It's legal here and no one is harmed. That's a lie. Australia gets migrants from South East Asia and has gangs operating like most other countries. When prostitution is legalized demand increases but supply doesn't right away. So the business turns to getting migrant girls. And just like legal businesses in the US get illegal migrants and treat them like shit, the prostitution business does the same but with more psychos involved.
Prostitution should be banned also for the same reason why cannibalism should never be tolerated. Once humans or human parts become a market, people will compete to increase the supply for that market. And that gets vile really quickly. It doesn't matter if one can donate their meat with consent. It won't stop with that. And I didn't bring up porn. Porn at least has the excuse of driving technology. Prostitution doesn't contribute to anything positive. Yes I agree. There needs to be a serious overlook and reform to gender relations and how society is structured. It's not normal that there are mentally ill men paying to fuck some STD filled slave woman. Prostitution isn't even natural to humans. It's not the oldest profession, hunting and gathering is. Prostitution is probably as old as agrarian civilization but that's a small portion of human evolutionary history.
(((They))) lie about prostitution existing in the animal kingdom. Chimps have been said to prostitute themselves but that's wrong. First, the observance happened in a zoo which isn't typically where chimps live. And the chimps naturally share meat with everyone. Female chimps reciprocate all kinds of altruistic behavior. It's not a strict exchange the way humans do.
Evan Williams
That's very bad logic, there's lots of people who have the guts to see one, but can't get laid because they aren't professional athletes or rappers or part of the financial elite.
Juan Morris
Owning a gun is trashy and for insecure men
Jaxon Gutierrez
Capitalism creates poverty.
Joseph Morales
Nah, it's sexist cultures they reward men based on how many women they have sex with, it's dehumanizing to everyone.
William Cooper
>be feminist >support the restriction of women's rights and job options
nice one
Jaxon Taylor
Would you suggest laws that ban men from having sex outside procreational activities? It would then be hard to tell who is mentally ill since that's a symptom we use it would stop a lot of harmful behavior.
How does it restrict their rights? They are allowed to be prostitutes, no one is allowed to buy from them.
Jack Cooper
I wouldn't say they are scum. Those men being mentally ill is ultimately a failure of the society. It wouldn't be a problem if they had sex in a friendly mutual relationship, married or not. They are being taken advantage to pay. In some cases they end up getting fucked over by the prostitutes who tells them to stop before the time is up and there's a fight that ensues because the men felt that
Oh that's another problem with prostitution. If you do a service that I don't agree with, I can ask for a refund. Can you do that with legal prostitution? What if the woman refuses to do the work, can she be forced by the boss in the same way that a hairdresser can be pressured to finish what they started? But forcing a prostitute to fuck would be sanctioned rape. Liberal feminism makes no sense.
Ryder Cox
Marriage is the main tool that makes the patriarchy work. You're not familiar with feminist theories on this matter. You're anti-feminist in fact, but you've got issues with men. You're in the right place. Stick around.
As a lolbertarian I think we should legalize hookers, drugs and automatic weapons. Also child soldiers should be an alternative to abortion.
Brody King
>That's a lie. Australia gets migrants from South East Asia and has gangs operating like most other countries. When prostitution is legalized demand increases but supply doesn't right away. So the business turns to getting migrant girls. And just like legal businesses in the US get illegal migrants and treat them like shit, the prostitution business does the same but with more psychos involved.
And that'd be happening whether it was legal or not, moron.
It's literally the same argument as drugs, guns, porn and so on.
Owen Kelly
Imagine being so fucking brainwashed you think having your virginity is creepy and unnatural while you praise soulless and dehumanizing random sex as a virtue.
Justin Robinson
False equivalence fallacy
Carter Sullivan
>Owning a gun is trashy and for insecure men Have sex incel.
Matthew Hall
>get to pay for high quality disease free pussy without going to jail >get to pay less over time because capitalism = competition = competitive low prices >men no longer gives a shit about women >men no longer listen to women and their retarded needs >fat women and ugly looking women all over the United States get their shit together and start losing weight and start taking care of themselves cause cucks and betas are fucking 10/10 Stacy’s for the price of a new video game >women no longer have any power over their pussy >women now approach men in massive rates never seen before because most men are getting their sexual needs and desires elsewhere >eventually we revert our women rights and women voting laws and become a red pilled society that doesn’t function on feelings but instead uses logic
I say sign me up and fully legalize prostitution
Dylan Perez
Human civilized societies should be reformed and restructured so that it's easier for people to have sex with others that they trust and like, not what Tinder, prostitution or whatever else offers. This would be breaking down urban centers into something more livable. There should be new communities of people dispersed over the land. Civilization has given technology but also miscegenation, misery, suicide epidemics, opioid epidemic and a lot of other bad things.
But this likely won't happen. People like their "muh civilization" too much. Right now humans in North America and other parts of the world are in the beginning of the transhuman/cybernetic age. Humans will become cyborgs. The addiction of technology could permanently separate man from his humanity. Those who don't want this lifestyle should revert to a more harmonious one with nature, preferably primitive.
Who knows maybe people will be able to mix high scientific lifestyle with harmony with nature, including human nature.
Robert Lee
>It wouldn't be a problem if they had sex in a friendly mutual relationship, married or not Yes it is, only mentally ill people want "relationships" or"sex" that aren't sanctioned by society. Society legitimizes and thus approves of relationships through marriage and that's how we know there's no abuse or exploitation. Men who have sex with people they aren't married to are freaks.
Christian Murphy
>Feminists don't like prostitution, because sex is their power, and they don't want to trade it cheap. More incels, more fem control.
this
Jaxson Butler
Waaaait, prostitution is legal in oz? Really?
Ethan Jackson
>1970 That's due to socialism, 1970 was literally the year the U.S went off the gold standard and threw all their money into medicaid, Social Security, medicare, etc and became socialist.
That was also when the USSR successful turned many African countries into communist states
That was also when the Asian socialist governments started industrializing.
Hunter Wilson
I think prostitution should be legal
Lucas Foster
It was a legit equivalence.
Henry Howard
The point is that legalizing prostitution increases human trafficking you retarded degenerate.
>drugs, guns, porn False equivalency. Drugs and guns are not people. Porn falls under media and arguably under art. Guns are necessary for self defense and fighting a tyranny. Prostitution isn't. Drugs can be used for medication in some circumstances. Prostitution is never good.
Zachary Miller
>Legal hookers are what made me change my mind but not really I'm a leftist at heart Yeah no go home. Your weak minded pleas for approval are why women shouldn't be allowed to vote in the first place. Zero rationality even when you "switch sides".
Society sanctions "hook up" apps like Tinder, do you? If you lived in Afghanistan, society sanctions raping unescorted women. If you lived there, would you? We know society's standards. What's yours?
Wyatt Hughes
we tried to help prostitutes by legalising it and forcing basic rules upon the industry. didnt work since legal whores cant compete in price with eastern european whores because they dumb, dont know laws exist and their only contact in germany is their pimp who speaks their eastern european language.
David Morris
So paying a woman for sex = paying. Homeless man to eat shit?
Consenting sex = coprophagia?
Are you sure about that?
Elijah Robinson
I meant that it's not a problem for mentally ill to have sex outside of marriage, which is sanctioned by society. Mentally ill people are like that because of various factors, primary factor is alienation which is the fault of society.
Jordan Cox
I looked at that picture for a good minute and I have no idea what side they're on. Modern protests are stupid.
Jeremiah Torres
This.
Landon Kelly
But this is global, the rest of the world became way more capitalistic. Actually look at the us alone and you see the opposite is true... poverty has been decreasing heavily right up unitl that point.
I can explain it. They don't want pimps (men) getting paid for women selling sex. They're not against prostitution. They're against men profiting from it.
Eli Walker
>pimp who speaks their eastern european language. do you have experience?
Juan Morris
I know what you meant, im saying men who have sex outside marriage are mentally ill and they are scumbags.
David Allen
this isn’t your first rodeo you at least lurk this site which makes me think you are larping
Aaron Turner
Honey, every time a man takes on a new sex partner a woman also does the same. How daft are you?
Isaiah Ross
it's not enough to sway me from voting for Trump, but i'm definitely siding with the dems on this one... as a radical right wing liberal, I don't see any reason prostitution shouldn't be legal.
John Murphy
Most of the world is socialist, U.S is most capitalist country and even it has become socialist since Nixon.
Mason Davis
Men and women are different idiot.
Isaiah Rodriguez
HAHAHA fucking whore
Grayson Morris
sweetie, your math doesn't work.
If men refused to have sex outside of marriage, you'd have no choice but to get married and have sex with no one but your husband.