If the CO2 increase from 1800 to now isn’t man-made

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Now look at co2 levels during the dinosaurs.

>posting facts on Jow Forums
>wonders why they don't get it
> Jow Forums

I would be more worried about the methane release from the poles, it will create an extinction level event in about ten years time , but no-one seems to know about it

Based

>why shouldn’t it affect climate
Redpill. I'll try to be quick. It affects climate. But not much the higher it gets. These are things globalist commiefags pushing open borders and white genocide don't want you to know:

- The additional effect of CO2 decays exponentially.
- Man's contribution to CO2 is very small (under 5% of total yearly).
- They try to fool you into thinking it's the opposite, as if man causes most of it, as if the addition is a linear increase using "flat-earth" mathematics as if the Earth is a literal "greenhouse" (it isn't)
- This is why all of the prediction models by zealots pushing the rhetoric since the 80s have been wildly overstated and wrong, which we can now see thanks to time passing.
- Environmentalism has been hijacked and they don't give a damn about real pollution compared to seizing the means of production (quickest way being give government control over CO2).
- Some forms of "green" energy like solar are good, but the last thing a sane person wants is globalist government forcing it by way of cucking you.
- It's 99% political to subvert nations.
- Actual scam. The "deniers" and "skeptics" were mostly right all along.

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the truth is we are desperate for more CO2

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>If you want to decrease C02 stop purchasing tomatoes and cucumbers.
>to decrease CO2, less plants need to be grown and harvested

The absolute state of Arab Norwegians

>up or down

What about “let’s keep it relatively stable like in the last million years” don’t you get?

I forgot an additional point. The mild "increase" isn't even provably bad. Considering we're in a larger ice age trend, it could be a relief for stabilizing the climate even longer. The tactic of blaming every drought or weather event on man is 100% political, because this slight increasing of temperature would be happening irrespective of man. The Earth has been through these cycles many times, though probably not with this high of CO2 (which again isn't as big of a deal as they claim). CO2 isn't heavily causal in past events, it's mostly just correlated.

>muh hockeystick

come on it's not 2006 anymore

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this will happen within the next 20 years , this information is not advertised for some bizarre reason.

independent.co.uk/environment/earth-permian-mass-extinction-apocalypse-warning-climate-change-frozen-methane-a7648006.html

this is what I'm more worried about

2000 years is nothing, user. To Earth this would be like 1 or 2 minutes. We would have to much more far back in time to be absolutely sure.

>Solar
>good
Producing a solar panel creates more co2 than it will save during it's lifetime because of how much materials it needs

braaaap

me too , but people tend to ignore reality

Does it look stable to you over the last millions of years?

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>creates more co2
Read my redpill. Producing CO2 isn't a negative. Not using combustible materials to power the grid that form real pollution is a positive. As business and the market makes solar panels affordable and cost effective, they are a great way to gain energy independence. Bring on more CO2, by all means. Separate issue.

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P E E P E E P O O P O O

>If we did it, why shouldn’t it affect climate?
It only acts as a greenhouse gas within a certain frequency range so there is diminishing returns.

The numbers are Jew lies. Global warming is a control strat to hinder advancement. Space is fake

does anyone have the infographic explaining that the ice caps are an anomaly and we haven't had any for the majority of earths existence

we are definitely in a deep freeze

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I don't think you know anything about how 'stable' it has been over the last million years you hollow headed buffoon.

Ah yes, fair enough, apologies, I approached it from the regular argument

“Icecaps”? You mean the ice wall? Bruh it’s like 50,000 miles long all around

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without the ice caps retaining all of the methane we all die , but they are melting now unfortunately

youtube.com/watch?v=XrRQqlZlOqw

>who or what did it?
you know the answer, u'r just playing dumb
well you are zealot so you don't know the full story, you think it's the sun obviusy, but it's a tad more complicated (like what part of local cloud sun is and what sort of environment heliosphere currently interacts with youtube.com/watch?v=9iQYkuhiDtI ) but to simplify the matter - yes it's the sun warming earth and oceans and releasing co2 from oceans with a bit of a lag -few hundred years that is

funny thing, they recently examined saturn's rings and surprise surprise - same water as in the oceans, that's cause it's the source of our water...

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tell you what
if you can give me 100% concrete proof that the earth is flat without the use of memes and youtube videos i'll believe you
until then KEK

tyvm i'm going to annoy SOOO many people with this

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Lololol believing nasa mason lies “examined staturns x” lololololOlolol yeah same way as I’m examining your moms ass right now. Ohh look high sulfur levels believe me goy that’ll be 1more billion$ for “Saturn 2” mission to return to your moms ass for further examination.

Volstock cores say the CO2 goes up with the temperature. Then collapses hard and fast, then it starts to snow for 130000 years. Just like the last thousand times.

See why no one is particularly concerned about your nations or whatever you people assume is government/law/social direction?

Its known and the beauty of it is last couole if times it happened its just easier saying nothing on the matter in the public arena. Know why? There isnt anyother outcome but rapid and horrific population collapse since when the line drops growing veggies is next to impossible along with practically everything else that construes a 'modern' world. Snow literally gets high enough in most places north and south to carve things like the swiss alps and heavy enough to make the great plains.

Just how it works out. Wish y'all luck but its a pointless platitude that amounts to nothing.

CO2 is .038 percent of our atmosphere. Since plants need CO2 and shits oxygen, how much less do you want? If you really think CO2 causes global warming or climate change, then why is Mars which is 96% CO2 minus 196 fucking degrees?

Volstock cores which help highlight that it doesn't matter what anyone does. The future is already sealed...in ice and snow...for roughly 130000 years. On the other end of that glacial period itll be like none of you ever existed and everything done completely erased by time.

The CO2 bullshit is really just to keep you all myoptically watching the bothing burger in the media while the big snow approaches.

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notice though it goes mainly ignored like itt?

What in “1 million years” didn’t you understand, low IQ retard?

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Really doesnt matter.

Regardez vous.

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He didnt post facts he asked rhetorical questions putting the burden of proof on the other side.

As if they ones who claim have to provide the proof.

Why CO2 level increase is unclear.CO2 level can fluctuate.

Its also not clear how an increased C02 level effects the environment.

The facts are that CO2 levels are low.
Temperature is not fixed.It changed dramatically even in the current holocene.
CO2 levels can change too dramatically over a short period of time with no human influence.

People who make claims and request total power to solve problems they claim to exist have at least to provide some proof.

A proof would be a working model for the climate that can reliably predict the future.

But they dont have that.

All they have is something like.
Mean temperature increase since 1850.
CO2 levels increase.
Therefore humans are to blame and we grab total power and can dictate to you anything.

And that makes people weary.Especially if these claims are supported by powerfull and influencial entities of the west and the whole msm throwing their support behind it and also destroying every opposition with the usual means of the globo homo gay plex critarchy.

If that was even true we would not exist as there were several melting periods of the poles and nothing happend at all during the current holocene.

I like our cordial discussion, my brother. I used to be a zealot myself back when I was a bluepilled retard, so I know it's easy to assume the talking points of the globalist lying media.

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easiest solution to reduce the amount of CO2 is to plant tons of trees

CO2 is fine. Would could double our atmospheric pressure and still be as fine as we will ever be anyway.

Just means it's going to collapse harder when the snow comes. Got nothing to do with the local solar system either. Once we pass out of the orrt belt, thats the point the mercury freezes. And a million years geologically is nothing, blink of an eye.

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Geologist here, you fuckers are all so dumb it hurts

Look up the petm if you want to know what very rapid greenhouse gas emissions look like (hint everything died)
That being said I do think while climate change is occurring geologically fast it will take generations to start seeing major affects

yep

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certain death awaits us at 150ppm CO2

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Nobody knows what caused the permian mass extinction event.There are theories.The Permian Event also took tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of of years to come into effect.
We talking about a change in CO and mean temperature that is way more drastic than todays changes.

Seems to me like your temp rise is leading the C02 rise, Hans

Isn’t that the actress who plays a suicide girl who triggered hundreds of American chubby girls to also suicide for attention?

>very rapid greenhouse gas emissions
Correlation is not causation. Sorry, you were fed a lie. Sorry, your degree is nearly worthless. Look on the bright side. There's still time.

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I don't know, but it makes me kek every time. That damned smile.

The chart is from right to left and yes with ice ages, the Mylankovic cycles are affecting CO2 concentrations due to permafrost melting. Read up before implying this means CO2 has no effect on temperature.

nigger just light a fucking match it will burn and produce CO2 and H2O, both are needed for plants

>GREENFAGS BTFO

solution: just plant more plants

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Humanities fucked
m.youtube.com/watch?v=5raiaKPuzck

In the last million years the climate was indeed extremely unstable.
We had several glacial periods much colder and interglacials much warmer than today.
And non of this is explainable by CO2 levels.

>let's just sit it out while we shill SHELL studies, nothing will happen
great logics

Quick question: Can you read? I am not shilling for any study at all. In fact, I am highly questioning it, especially OP's pic.

look at the graphs, they are basically going up exponentially since 200 years..
if a word like climate change for man-made pollution doesn't exist, somebody hat to invent it unironically

I'll be in my space ship or deep sea layer, sound like a problem for poor people.

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you people need to read a book, there is consensus in the science world for good reasons, but in these times when people believe in flat earth nothing is off the richter no more I guess

Climate stability is a myth.

Google 4.2 kiloyear event, 8.2 kiloyear event,Preboreal stage,Dansgaard–Oeschger event

Preboreal climate change:

+6 degrees mean temperature in just 2 to 4 decades

CO2 levels change at the end of the stage from 250 to 350 ppm.

The climate was changing (temporarily upward) irrespective of man's small CO2 contribution. Man affects the environment in many negative ways with real pollution, but that's a separate issue from CO2.

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what happend to the Greenland ice shield during the Dansgaard–Oeschger event ?

> For example, about 11,500 years ago, averaged annual temperatures on the Greenland ice sheet warmed by around 8 °C over 40 years
so the arguments warming was never so fast
and is unprecedented cited so often as anecdotal evidence is totally false.

You are an embarrassment
Can you fuck off to Turkey already and fucking stay there

Again:
We would have to look much more far back in time. 2000 years is nothing in climatological terms.

>there is consensus
No such consensus exists. That was literally a lie. It's political fabrication based on asking a single question, "does man play a role?" (paraphrasing) and from that opportunistically and deceptively implying everyone who answered yes was saying it's a fundamental/high role. They weren't saying that. It isn't. A large number of scientists who responded to that questionnaire by a leftist hack came out and rejected the fact that they were used for his political propaganda. There isn't a "consensus". That didn't stop the globalist lying media from rolling with it, now did it?

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majority of earths existence there was no life, let alone mammals...

Also, pic related is worth a read as well. I am not entirely against idea of the CO2 thesis, but there are certainly mainy points wrong with it, especially with the IPCC report that everyone uses as a reference point these days (without questioning, ofc)

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>that breathing
Why do fat disabled fucks pretend they care about the environment? Dude will die of heart attack before anything goes down.

logic user
see that ppm on your graphic ? it means parts per million. Translated to normie = 0.04%

how does 0.04% of something in our atmosphere change our climate ?
it's actually the other way round. Our climate is changing which is affecting the co2 readings. The change in our climate is related to our solar system as well as our solar systems position in the galaxy.

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It's racist to show the whole graph, a*str*li*n

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That’s like saying potassium cyanide can’t kill you because it’s just 0.0001% cocnentrated in your blood if swallowed.

Shits already going down

i should not bother with idiots like you. But you do know you breath CO2 ? and plants NEED C02 .. CO2 is critical to life here.

Pathetic at logic u are.

Mass deforestation is probably more to blame for these issues then the CO2 emissions

>Geologist here
Shhhhhhh, no place for ((((scientists)))) here, only blogs and opinions are respectable sources on Jow Forums, but no facts please.

1850 = first industrial revolution, read a book

You're wasting your time OP. Threads like these are only an indicator of average IQ of this board, nothing else.

Even if you accept the narrative, Big Agriculture is largely to blame:
>govt gibs prop up needless grain/söy cropland that would otherwise be forested or used for animal husbandry
>cultivated semi-arid lands could otherwise be used for grazing and windfarming

Rejecting the plant-based globohomo agenda could reduce anthropogenic C02 and kill factory farming in one go, but normies don't realize it. Also globalists flying around on jet planes all the time, but that's a separate argument.

The maximum forcing for a doubling of preindustrial CO2 is +1.2C. This is an easily computed value based on the physical characteristics of CO2, and is a fact which all parties agree to including the IPCC. AGW theory predicts a forcing greater than 1.2C based almost entirely on a theorized positive water vapor feedback response to CO2.

If that feedback existed we should have observed it by now, but observed warming is well below predicted warming and consistent with a very small or nonexistent H2O feedback.

tl;dr - AGW theory...not the simplified version fed to the masses, but the actual theory...is wrong even though anthropogenic CO2 has a small impact on climate.

Cute. Here's a scientist (in pic):

>If the CO2 increase from 1800 to now isn’t man-made
No such thing. Lexica from the 1850s show the same CO2 amount as modern ones.

www.zeno.org

Look for yourself.

>ppm
>parts per milion
>per milion

Wow, it's nothing!

The so-called "Hockey Stick" has long been debunked as FAKE NEWS.
It´s outright falsified data, as is the norm for Church of CO2 faggots.

GRAND SOLAR MINIMUM is already well underway.
Winter IS coming,.
Greta will freeze her ass of when her disciples throw her out into the cold.

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Probably this Hans. Everytime you see Merkel shaking, she's using every ounce of strength to fight off a fart escaping.

Sweet, you found 1 (one). And there are no empirical data to confirm his claim, and noone else to confirm his data.
It's not how science works, it's how blogs/opinions/interviews work.