/etm/ - EARTH TO MARS

/etm/ is a general on Jow Forums to discuss everything space related (with a concentration on Mars).

I post the general every saturday around this time.

>SOME NEWS
Iceye reveals radar imagery of less than one meter resolution
spacenews.com/iceye-reveals-radar-imagery-of-less-than-one-meter-resolution/

Watch SpaceX Dragon launch pad escape system testing
spaceflightnow.com/2019/08/09/watch-spacex-dragon-launch-pad-escape-system-testing/

See SpaceX's new spacesuits on the first astronauts to wear them
cnet.com/news/see-spacexs-new-spacesuits-on-the-first-astronauts-to-wear-them/

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>interesting read
French 3D-printing company Fabulous has brought together a team of scientists and architects to imagine a bubble-shaped habitat for Mars that can be printed on the red planet.The Sfero house features an internal and external dome, with a protective pocket of water between the two. A single corridor rests on the planet's surface and allows access to the interior, which would have an upper and lower level linked by a spiral staircase.The house would start off as a central drilling rod that burrows several metres into the planet's soil to extend two robotic arms, which would harvest materials to be used for 3D-printing the habitat's internal and external dome-shaped shells.The spherical shape has been designed to offer high resistance to Mars' low atmospheric density.The design aims to use the red planet's abundance of iron oxide – discovered in dust samples and rocks brought back by NASA's Pathfinder rovers – which would form the raw material for 3D printing. The powdered iron particles would then be fused together by laser, and the levels of the habitat printed layer by layer.
The arms would also seek out permafrost – soil that has been at or below freezing for at least two years – to be melted and used as a 30-centimetre-wide water pocket in between the two shells to protect against solar radiation.
Fabulous founder Arnault Coulet believes the water layer could be a "permanent psychological reminder of the main element of the mother planet – water constituting a sort of protective amniotic fluid for humans."

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>yfw in the late 70s we could have had Saturn 5s with solid fuel strap on boosters putting 1000 tons in LEO at a time

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ESA actually wanted to do this on the moon
youtube.com/watch?v=pk9PWUGkz7o

They wanted to use smashed regolith as some sort of cement of a 3D printed shelter around inflatables habitacles.

The biggest news right now are Blue Moon and Jeff Bezos selling 1% of his Amazon share to finance it.

NAZA official implication in building Gateway for a semi-permanent base around the moon.

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Based and Spacepilled, thank you OP

mfw

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Im here every saturday mate. I don't think the general will do well tonight because of what's happened with Epstein, but sometimes the threads are really good.

>They wanted to use smashed regolith as some sort of cement of a 3D printed shelter around inflatables habitacles.

yeah, i'm pretty sure I heard about this

>Watch SpaceX Dragon launch pad escape system testing
Fuckin bad ass but god damn those g's would hurt

The moon is dumb and pointless. We should be going with the Mars Direct plan

How big do you think the 2020's will be for the space industry? Will we finally put new tech into orbit and put people outside of LEO, or will we just continue to faff about like we have for the past few decades?

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HUGE. SpaceX are still on schedule for their Mars missions in 2024 and 2026

hopefully we get our shit together and start prospecting the moon. By the mid 2020's I'd say we would at least be making some final preparations.

we'll also see activity from NASA if congress would stop cutting their fucking budget

Mars Direct is dumb and pointless. We should aim for the moon to produce fuel from ice and tanks from aluminium ore in low gravity to use for farther missions.

This user gets it.

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if you think about it having a moon is a great gift, Water Ice, Helium 3, Iron, Aluminum. all found on the moon.

Does it make sense to have a spacestation either in orbit around the moon or physically on the moon, that spacecraft launched from Earth can either dock into or land at?

I’m thinking then changing spacecraft that will launch from either the spacestation in orbit around the Moon or on the surface of the Moon to Mars?

So like a middle station. This way you could have more fuel / bigger engines etc. without losing it due to the process of having to escape Earth gravity

But then again the reusable falcon booster-system might already have taken care of this?

This would allow

do you understand how orbital mechanics work? you really don't need a midway station between Terra and Luna

It looks like it's shaping up; I'm going into school soon for my engineering degree, and I don't want to end up doing the same bs we've been doing for the past 30 years.

>Does it make sense
Yes. To refuel from there. You won't have to launch from Earth with a big playload and the necessary fuel to get it in orbit.

I hope that we can have some limited heavy industry on the moon too. Imagine producing the fuel and the tank from there.

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It would probably be more worthwhile to just send something straight there, maybe have a station around Mars to refuel at, but not around the Moon. You would waste too much Delta-v trying to rendezvous with something around the Moon.

Dark fleet has a huge colony already in the next solar system. Not mars

>; I'm going into school soon for my engineering degree,
good luck mate.
theres actually an user from romania who posts here every few weeks who keeps us updated on the stuff he's working on. I think he's in college or just left university ( i can't remember)

nice, I'm working towards Aerospace Engineering

nice

have my reading list

>Recommended Reading
The Case For Mars, Robert Zubrin.
The High Frontier by Gerard O'Neill.
Colonies in Space, by T. A. Heppenheimer.
Rocket Propulsion Elements, Sutton.
Aerothermodynamics of Gas Turbine and Rocket Propulsion, Gordon Coates.
Space Mission Engineering, the new SMAD, Wiley, ed.
Fundamentals of Astrodynamics, Bates, etc.
International Reference Guide to Space Launch Systems, Steve Isakowitz.
Mining the Sky, John Lewis.
Rain of Iron and Ice, John Lewis.
We Seven: By the Astronauts Themselves.
Voices from the Moon, Andrew Chaikin.
The Millennial Project, Marshall Savage.
Modern Engineering for Design of Liquid Propellant Rocket Engines, David H. Huang.
Mars trilogy, Kim Robinson
The Martian Way, Isaac Asimov
Foundation Trilogy, Isaac Asimov
The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress, Heinlein

bump to keep bread warm

>The moon is dumb
Unless you want a free fuel station, repair doc, and source of aluminium and silicon en masse.

people want to go to Mars because it's seen as more exotic than the moon, but they never really think about all the money that there is on the Moon.

Governments aren't really doing enough to compete for all that money, SpaceX is getting miles ahead of NASA and Roscosmos at this point. NASA's SLS is just a bunch of pork spending at this point and will most likely never fly more than once, if even that.

one more bump

a bump perhaps?

the catalogue is really busy tonight. i don't think the thread is going to survive.

i'll see you lads next week if the thread dies.
if not, i'll keep posting if discussion picks up.

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1.4 second radio delay between here and the moon.

we could be controlling drones to do mining of water to make rocket fuel and manufacturing everything needed both for a moon base and rocket fuel / water / and radiation shield for a direct trip to Mars

But instead we have to baby sit stupid people like this.

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just saw this thread and thought i would post this guy's youtube channel in case some of you haven't heard of him:
youtube.com/channel/UCZFipeZtQM5CKUjx6grh54g
He does brilliant vids about space stuff. I was hooked on his videos for weeks when I first found his channel.

I normally include his videos in a post

check these out


>Jeff Bezos: Going to Space to Benefit Earth
youtube.com/watch?v=GQ98hGUe6FM
don't want to watch the whole event ? here's a quick rundown on what Jeff said
youtube.com/watch?v=Ge5Q3EBQ1tc

>WE GO TOGETHER
youtube.com/watch?v=G9KQfnqukno

>NEW BFR Overview
youtube.com/watch?v=QCz3rzA18hA

>Educational Doc on Terraforming Mars:
youtube.com/watch?v=_50N5QoQoc4

>Space X Interplanetary Transport System:
youtube.com/watch?v=0qo78R_yYFA&t

>"Making Life Interplanetary" by Elon Musk:
youtube.com/watch?v=H7Uyfqi_TE8&t

>3 Companies Developing Game Changing Technologies
youtube.com/watch?v=8rYqXE51q24

>Isaac Arthur - "Outward Bound - Colonising Mars"
youtube.com/watch?v=kmFOBoy2MZ8

>Isaac Arthur - Mars: From science fiction, to science fact
youtube.com/watch?v=S0dqd72ALkQ

>Challenges of Colonizing Mars!
youtube.com/watch?v=EcFsOF-ULL8

russia never went to venus, lying faggots

threads wait for no fag

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ouch

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We will win, anons.

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s o o n

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Thanks for those threads, user. Keep them going. End of the year I..., well, Christmas will come early.

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yep. dontforget im here every saturday mate