ELON MUSK ENDORSES ANDREW YANG

why is it that hyper capitalists seem to be the most forward thinking and advocates of UBI?

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There was something in Yang's eyes that he could relate to.

Because capitalism and technological advancement is a more humane and a more efficient path to Marxism than communism.

Musk is a figurehead/actor. His job is to pretend he's inventing tech that was actually invented decades or hundreds of years earlier but has been kept from the public. He's not some independent "capitalist" success story. He's more like a very well paid DMV employee.

>why is it that hyper capitalists seem to be the most forward thinking and advocates of UBI?

Because they realize that capitalism is under threat right now from the prospect of large swaths of the population being unemployable. This causes political instability, which is bad for business. UBI is an attempt at saving capitalism, meritocracy, and the idea that you can get ahead through hard work and talent.

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musk is a meme. He only cares about fuck off to mars from gay earth

They know what they're working on is going to destroy jobs. The choice is either UBI or Butlerian Jihad.

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Because if they don't give it to flood of immigrants without jobs, their wealth will get planet of the ape'd.

>hypercapitalist
>all his business ventures rely heavily on state subsidy

It's because the whole thing is a scam to put all the power in the hands of the corporations directly and make humans their cattle to be exploited.

If you really wanted to be kind and pretend you've suddenly accepted demoting humans to cattle as socialism always does is okay. Well, then maybe the rich just want to feel a bit less guilty and Yang helps them with that because otherwise they'll have to directly send out the death squads to take care of the general populace.

>ELON MUSK ENDORSES ANDREW YANG

Elon Musk is an UGLY FAGGOT

>the most forward thinking
You're really naive, you dumb proletarian.

He gave money to bush and Obama ffs

>the solution is to give resource to useless people instead of just eliminating useless people
>all this despite the constant shrieking about the world being grossly overpopulated

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>eliminating useless people
This is not a viable solution because for every 1 "useful" person there will be 10+ "useless" people. The capitalists would lose in a political revolution

The world is not over populated at all. Most of America has density of like 1 person per square km.

Because they want you beholden to them in every way. Also,
>forward thinking
lol

UBI is paying people to not revolt. They are trying to buy time to close the automation gap that will ruin people. Between high tech post scarcity and mid tech low scarcity there is a gap where the people need work but the work doesn't need people. They think UBI is the best way to bridge that gap and end up on the other side.

Could it be that he is building a factory in China? hmmmmmmm

Stay mad twitterfags

UBI is the dream of every capitalist. A docile population ready to be sold massive amounts of products communist style.

these people have had over 30 years to adapt to automation. they haven't. not anyone else's problem but their own.

god i wish the purge was real.

So you could be purged like the other 109 times, you reddit spacing kike?

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>state subsidy
Tesla state subsidy ???

God damn it, youre not supposed to blatantly state these things

Explain to me why people with capital won't buy up property before he is inaugurated and the rents increased by UBI. It's just government sponsored housing.

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can't make a cogent point? call 'em a jew! works every time!

His shitty Tesla cars are subsidized by the government.

Just give us some fucking money, i prefer to be a slave but doing nothing than being a slave amd working for mr shekelbergs

musk withdrew his endorsement after he saw the crying vid

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You didn’t have a point, nigger. You reddit spaced and sucked jewish cock while wishing to kill everyone who didn’t suck jewish cock. Become An hero immediately.

>not anyone else's problem but their own.
You are thinking morally, not practically. It doesn't matter if they should have adapted, they didn't, and they outnumber those who did by a large margin. That means they can just vote to restrict tech to secure their jobs. That has already been happening, see Anesthesia Technicians for an example. Anesthesia automation came out, was better and safer than the flawed, mistake prone humans, and they got the tech effectively banned on some trumped up "what if" scenario that saved all their jobs. If the vote doesn't work they will turn to violence, which is so common we have a word for it, Luddite.

These dudes, being at the highest level of capitalism, and in the areas of ai and auto especially, probably have a good enough perspective to say that UBI makes sense

>hyper capitalist
>those quads
Elon Musk is a Ponzi guy not a capitalist
The only difference between him and Martin Shkreli is being friends with the Clintons

I've lived in america my entire life...i don't remember ever being able to "vote to restrict tech". literally ever. what are you even talking about? i'm talking about low iq immigrants and white trash who have squandered their youth NOT adapting to their surroundings.

this will create a permanent underclass, beneath better prepared white. this is glorious, you'll see.

Because people already don't spend their welfare on shit they need or put it into savings, they spend it on new phones and car payments. All shit people like Elon Musk want to sell you.

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FOUND THE JEW!

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Elon is a self proclaimed socialist

It was already known that Musk is pro UBI so no surprise there.

It's actually very very simple.
Elon understands very clearly all the jobs that will be replaced with automation, because he is one of the people making the robots and AI to do it.

musk want to put a chip in your brain

UBI is intended to create a single system that would fulfill the social goal of making sure that there was a minimum level of income for all. It is theorized that, with a UBI, the need for minimum wage, food stamps, welfare, social security programs and other government assistance programs could be eliminated, thus reducing the administrative effort and cost to a fraction of what it is under the current system. It would also eliminate the perverse incentives created by these overlapping aid programs, e.g. when a minimum wage worker who earns a little more nets out with less income because they are newly ineligible for aid. Theoretically, the worker would then be stuck in a welfare trap and would have no incentive to seek higher wages.

A UBI does not disrupt low-wage markets, whereas a minimum wage law makes certain that people whose skills are not sufficient to justify that kind of wage will go unemployed. A UBI would therefore increase the availability of cheap labor, which would enable businesses to do domestically some of the work which they would otherwise have to outsource to other countries.

A UBI could reduce administrative overhead, since the large bureaucracies responsible for administering taxation and welfare systems, with the multitude of rules, thresholds and different applications required, could be greatly reduced or eliminated. The savings from this could then be returned to the people through spending on different government activities, via tax cuts, or any array of different ways.

All his shit is about to crash and burn. In a decade he'll be living in a cardboard box. He'll need Yang-bux for food.

They don't want their families to be killed in a revolution when half of the citizens are unemployed and starving on the streets.

afaik the reason the government is funding electric car research/development is because they want to use them in the military - imagine troop transports and tanks and helicopters that never need to stop to refuel

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because UBI is still fucking capitalism

>It is theorized that, with a UBI, the need for minimum wage, food stamps, welfare, social security programs and other government assistance programs could be eliminated, thus reducing the administrative effort and cost to a fraction of what it is under the current system

$1000 x 327.2 million =
>three hundred twenty-seven billion two hundred million
>per fucking month

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Your math is way off. There are no where near that many 18+ year olds in the US...

Adults easily make up a majority of that number. And why don't kids get universal income?

The number is 2.1 Trillion, not 3.2 trillion. You are off by 30% Why don't kids get UBI ? Dunno, good question.

Here's your answer, u filthy nigger living in poverty:

Every single technological and ideological transformation of the structure of society IS ALWAYS top-down. Even if it is bottom-up (say, the French Revolution), it will always revert back to the original position of: top-down.
It is in the interest of the ultra rich, and the capitalist, to support the UBI so that neither they, nor their place in the world do not obsolesce.
IF you believe yourself to be very smart, and you're in a powerful position that relies on the consumer economy always growing, you do not want UBI as a protest to low min. wages. You want UBI as the inevitable outcome of automization.
You want to "enter into a deal" almost, with the people. A new form of social contract.
"Here's a thousand bigboybucks every month, from the government. Now spend it all on things produced by MY machines!"
You can look at it as a permenant stratification of society into the haves and the have-nots.
and lets face it: as a wageslave, I would much prefer UBI and being replaced by automation.
Becoming completely and inextricably dependant on the government and large corporations for anything from subsistence, to entertainment and culture is preferable to the current system, in which everything is basically still the same, but with the addition that I ALSO have to depend on myself at the same time, to complete meaningless tasks in order to "earn" the money to survive.

>I'm talking about low iq immigrants and white trash who have squandered their youth NOT adapting to their surroundings.

Ah, so you are just a jew. got it, I'll move on to talking with actual people now.

UBI also puts the country in an inherently anti-immigration state. Which is a nice bonus.

>capitalist
musk is just a talking head who received hundreds of millions in (((bank))) and government loans.

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>UBI also puts the country in an inherently anti-immigration state. Which is a nice bonus.
because it causes hyperinflation, got it

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He must not have seen all the white man bad bullshit Yang has said.

It's not free money. The government has no money, it has your money. If you let yourself be bribed with your own money then you are an idiot.

Perhaps Musk is acknowledging the complete breakdown and failure of global capital. There is nothing forward looking or forward thinking about UBI, it will only temporarily pacify and distract a heavily divided nation (multiculturalism) away from a united class conscious. (e pluribus unum)

A 2 year old won't be able to spend his $1k. That would thus go to the parents, incentivizing pumping out babies for a monthly paycheck.

>>UBI also puts the country in an inherently anti-immigration state. Which is a nice bonus.
>because it causes hyperinflation, got it
2+2 = grayons

I wouldn't be against it

A meme entrepreneur endorsing a meme presidential candidate. Never saw that coming.

That's happening here in The Netherlands. In general, higher educated folks have less children. The majority of people making use of the incentive to pump out kids for a monthly check are the ones you don't want to do that.

He wants the devaluation of the dollar and inflation to make more money. What a con. Can't let it happen

That's a good argument too. Never really though about why or why not kids get UBI

Comes in a little under 4.5 trillion a year. About a fourth of our GDP. Implementing automation will drive down prices in most sectors of the economy, most importantly in healthcare and education. UBI is the best idea to deal with automation. The only thing is that immigration reform would be necessary to implement it. I don't see Democrats defending the border.

Because Yang won't get shit done

Thanks user. And people call Jow Forums this irredeemable place full of screeching nazi's.

Only third world countries are overpopulated. If anyone is useless, it's you brainlet.

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Elon Musk's politics are absolute cancer. Not surprised one bit here.

I'm quite sure I heard Yang talk about strict border control on Joe Rogan.

musk wants chicom wages for engineers

Automation, regardless of whether UBI is implemented, will drastically change your way of life. If you want to survive on a measly $1000 a month you'll have to band together others around you. Most poor people will continue to be gentrified out of the cities. Even the racial stratification of American society will fade away into a class based society.

Look at penis size by country. China, Israel, Russia, Iran, tiny dicks. They are literally trying to start WW3 because they are cucks hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha My sides rn

as I said >UBI also puts the country in an inherently anti-immigration state.
You can't have UBI and immigration, not even really legal immigration. UBI is an admission that the job supply isn't enough for the demands of the labor force. If you have UBI you need to be looking at kicking out as many people as you can.

Reminder that Yang's immigration policies will make the illegals citizens in 18 years or have them fuck off when everyone around them has yangbux. If countries follow the US on UBI, then they will leave by themselves to get their UBI in their respective country. It's a win-win-win.

How does inflation occur if the supply is not increased? Not asking to argue, genuinely curious

it doesn't

Cyberpunk Dystopia here we come.

Because welfare like UBI is a bribe to ensure the status quo. If you were at the top of the food chain, you would love UBI since it helps ensure you stay there.

Because Musk knows that UBI is the future, right now the technology to implement it and make it work is developing, they also work with Tesla, Facebook, Google, SWIFT and by 2025 we could see UBI being a thing, maybe even earlier.

Day of the rake fucker

we already live in a dystopia. UBI will make things better.

>Because welfare like UBI is a bribe to ensure the status quo
What's the alternative ?

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Ahahahaha

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NAIL on head. It will make them self deport when they don't have $1000 cushion each.

Pol will ignore this

>Yang becomes president
>Income now $1000$
>sweets also cost $2000$
>Milk costs $2000000000000$
>You can also forget buying a house unless you're a quadripulanaire.

Awesome! I'll sell sweets for $100 and corner the entire market. i'll be the 21st century Willie Wonka!

There's no possible way voting for a non white will end well for whites.

Not so fast, friend. I will sell my sweets for $50. Everyone will flock to me!

HAHAHAA im pretty sure Musk endorsed him before that little stunt of Wang crying on stage. Wonder how he feels now.

There ya go

Must sucks totally. Fucking batteries will not solve the problem

Batteries and panels are great for the household.
For an entire grid however, that's just retardation.

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I'm not actually a fan of yang, I just like that he brings the topic of UBI with him, because talking about UBI is talking about the need to end immigration. I'm actually surprised they even let him on stage.

Why is it that hyper rich people want to implement universal VAT?
I know Bill Gates said he'd rather have to pay a high VAT for everything than income taxes, Yang wants to implement a VAT at 10% (protip: it will just keep going up over time) and Musk endorses him....

>why do tax leeches support candidates that will leech more taxes for them.

Yep, cattle cant have cattle tasers and their food and residence is provided for them.