Einsatzgruppen

I have a question about the Einsatzgruppen for Jow Forums.
The reported death toll from the activities of the Einsatzgruppen is reported as 2 million people including 1.3 million Jews.
The Einsatzgruppen is also reported as having on 4250 men total.
This works out at each man killing 470 people.
Does Jow Forums believe this is feasible?
How could one person kill so many and remain functional?

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They were enthusiastically helped by the locals. The Lithuanians Ukrainians etc hated Jews and helped out with a will. The local police, and pro Nazi militias were mass killers.

You should read some history, and stop asking questions on Pol, where deniers (liars) will just tell you lies.

Obviously I understand that not everyone would have been actively involved in the shooting. This would however mean that the 470 baseline would be exceeded on average by the rest of the organisation.

They were just there to fight against partisans, this fucking 2 million death toll bullshit is absolutely ridiculous. Oh and another ss division actually deported 4 million jews and gypsies to the moon and put them in special gas chambers there, Hitler had one testicle and wanted to exterminate every single person on earth that was not blue eyed and blonde haired, and the whole world would be speaking German now if he won the war. Here's a map of how Germany would have looked like, would we have won the war.

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They were also helped by the army who they had powers to command to help them.

As for the last question - Himmler moved to gassing because he realised the shooters became bestial and psychopathic

Ah yes of course I had forgotten about local help. Thank you user.

Hyperbole is another form of lying. Why are you talking shit. It is a serious subject. You should do some serious research and stop just making shut up like a retard.

Who was more badass?
Einsatzgruppen, or Totenkopfverbande?

There are reports of anti Jewish pogroms held by the locals which the army tried to stop - The Einsatzgruppen of course then intervened to encourage them.

I am speaking the truth. You and your whole family would be speaking German right now if we won the war, wherever you live. Hitler even planned on conquering the universe after the war.

hello me old kike sucking pal, if you can provide a single piece of evidence that isn't hearsay for your usual dogshit claims i will paypal you $10,000.

I'd say Einsatzgruppen since it was more of a field unit with an anti Partisan remit.

S E E T H I N G

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Hey I'm not from Golders Green kek

They did what needed to be done.

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true i read an article about that

Ahhhh, yes. The ubiquitous Nazi thread full of people who refuse to learn from the Nazi's own records.

Surely this isn't meant to slide anything.

Surely.

so, no evidence at all as usual. just the usual kike funded rhetoric? fuck right off.

We should make a list of all the bullshit foisted on people by these hoaxers for the past 74 years:
1. Human Soap
2. Shrunken Heads
3. Skin Lampshades
4. Masturbation death machines
5. Roller coasters of death
6. Anne Frank Diary (written posthumously by Dad)
7. One testicle Hitler
8. Jewish Himmler

Please expand...

Don't forget the drowning pool.

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>They were enthusiastically helped by the locals

The ones they didnt kill en mass anyways.

weird, why doesn't anybody seem to like jews

They didn't exterminate Jews. They were there to fight against the partisan shitters that were essentially guerrilla war criminals. Partisans are trash that should be shot on sight.

Yes, and I forgot the electrocution floor...

Gas yourself rabbi shekelstein

I'll tell you where they lost me...when people realized if there were six million people killed in camps and they weren't all jewish (obviously) IT MEANT THE JEWS WERE LYING, SO THEN SUDDENLY OUT OF THE BLUE THEY STARTED TRYING TO SAY IT WAS ACTUALLY 11,000,000, OOPS, and that is utter bullshit. Then when I started questioning all of it. Now I'm not saying no jews died in German camps what I'm saying it the story has been embellished to the point of absurdity and those motherfuckers believe they can say any bullshit at all and get away with it.

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Well, at first they machine gunned masses of people, and that did indeed have a massive psychological effect on the soldiers tasked with the grisly job.

After about a year of that shit, the Einsatz started "industrializing" their methods. One of them was to take a simple delivery van, and route the exhaust into the rear cab. Load Jews into van, drive directly to mass grave, throw bodies in hole, drive to next spot.

Repeat that process for two years, and the bodies quite literally start piling up in the hundreds of thousands.

The Romanians in particular were quite fond of this method.

>How could one person kill so many and remain functional?
They were all drunk 24/7 to cope with it, including the German officers that didn't even need to get their hands dirty

Modified exhaust on my opel blitz
Rolling through town with the sound of 27 choking yids!

From “Masters of Death” by Rhodes: “Within a day or two of the occupation, several enlisted men in a bakers’ company of
the Wehrmacht Sixteenth Army encountered what was probably the first pogrom in Kaunas
when they joined “a crowd of people gathered in a square somewhere in the center of
the town.”

“We were quartered in an old Russian barracks,” a sergeant recalled, “and immediately
started to make bread for the troops. I think it must have been one day after we had
arrived in Kovno that I was informed by a driver in my unit that Jews were being beaten
to death in a nearby square. Upon hearing this I went to the said square [with] other
members of our unit.” On the cobbled square, lined with houses and opening onto a
park, the sergeant “saw civilians, some in shirtsleeves . . . beating other civilians
to death with iron bars.” He heard someone say that “these were Jews who had swindled
the Lithuanians before the Germans had arrived.” The bystanders were mostly German
soldiers. The sergeant questioned those nearest him, who told him that “the victims
were being beaten to satisfy a personal desire for vengeance.”

May I have a link to those records?

Nevar forget the cages with a bear and an eagle.
It may seem extremely inefficient and silly, but it's not like the krauts were fighting a two front war while low on materials and manpower.

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best map saved

Idk ask your leaders.

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Continues....
His account continues:

When I reached the square there were about fifteen to twenty bodies lying there. These
were then cleared away by the Lithuanians and the pools of blood were washed away
with water from a hose. . . . I saw the Lithuanians take hold of the bodies by their
hands and legs and drag them away. Afterwards another group of offenders was herded
and pushed onto the square and without further ado simply beaten to death by the civilians
armed with iron bars. I watched as a group of offenders were beaten to death and then
had to look away because I could not watch any longer. These actions seemed extremely
cruel and brutal. . . . The Lithuanian civilians could be heard shouting out their
approval and goading the men on.”

Yes, excellent example of the hyperbole of the lies - one had to top the previous.

This old lie. Every time. You'll find this order right next to genral plan ost and the final solution

“A similar scene confronted a colonel who was adjutant to the staff of Army Group North
on his arrival in Kaunas on the morning of 27 June 1941. He passed a filling station
surrounded by a dense crowd and noticed women in the crowd who had “lifted up their
children or stood them on chairs or boxes so that they could see better.” He thought
he must be witnessing “a victory celebration or some type of sporting event because
of the cheering, clapping and laughter that kept breaking out.” But when he asked
what was happening, he was told that “the ‘Deathdealer of Kovno’ was at work and that
this was where collaborators and traitors were finally meted out their rightful punishment!”
He moved closer and witnessed “probably the most frightful event that I had seen during
the course of two world wars”:

On the concrete forecourt of the petrol station a blond man of medium height, aged
about twenty-five, stood leaning on a wooden club, resting. The club was as thick
as his arm and came up to his chest. At his feet lay about fifteen to twenty dead
or dying people. Water flowed continuously from a hose washing blood away into the
drainage gully. Just a few steps behind this man some twenty men, guarded by armed
civilians, stood waiting for their cruel execution in silent submission. In response
to a cursory wave the next man stepped forward silently and was then beaten to death
with the wooden club in the most bestial manner, each blow accompanied by enthusiastic
shouts from the audience.

People are hated for a reason.

So the locals looked at the coming of the Nazis as a go ahead to unleash tension that had probably been building for a long time.

The Einsatzgruppen:

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Exactly. Remember that the local commisars and NKVD were almost exclusively Jews.

He dealt the cards
He rolled the nickels
Death Dealer of Kovno
O mein gott...

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Show flag frog

>Himmler moved to gassing because he realised the shooters became bestial and psychopathic
If they moved on to gassing because of the negative effects it had on male, trained soldiers, why did they then have so many women working in the death camps? Weren't they worried about the negative effects it would have on their women? Especially since the women are reported to have engaged in many bestial and psychopathic acts, I thought the fascists had a protective and repressive system for women?

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Again, people are hated for a reason, and this man was the instrument of their vengeance. Any idea what became of him?

Ez
Look up Babi Yar

Ironically this is exactly what the Jews do every time you bring up the Mossad or AIPAC. they always go full "yeah and Jews rule the world I bet you bleieve in the protocols and think there is a Jew behind every corner. Yes we control everything hahaha"

Look, when it comes to history people believe authority figures unless they are historians who spend years in the archives. The German poster believes what he wants to believe, just like everyone else. If the AfD ever comes to power they will swap historians in WW2 museums and produce a different narrative because of politics. If this wont happen the narrative will stay the same also for political reasons.

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He was probably killed in the soviet advance.

>Again, people are hated for a reason
except for the jews goy, everyone hates them for no reason because jews have never done anything wrong, not once

Makes sense. Never knew a picture of him existed.

The original Dindu Nuffin...

so that's where the blacks got it from

>Does Jow Forums believe this is feasible?
its not
>How could one person kill so many and remain functional?
by being mentally stable and not genetic waste


oy va
but your right th elocal population hated people like (((you))), why do you think that is?

>The Lithuanians Ukrainians etc hated Jews
ukrainians don-t hate lithuanians
they dont hate italians
they dont hate french
they dont hate chinese
they dont hate arabs

why do they hate jews?

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>why do they hate jews?
oy vey antisemitism

I take that back.

Says he became a Soviet Agent and well payed doctor in 1950. I guess you do what you gotta do to survive?

>ukrainians don-t hate lithuanians
>they dont hate italians
>they dont hate french
>they dont hate chinese
>they dont hate arabs
>why do they hate jews?
According to Daniel (((Goldhagen))) they and the Germans are genetically pre-disposed to be irrational haters/killers.

its bs that it changed people into psychopaths, they had psychologists examine big camp commanders and it turned out they were just normal people put in strange situations and just did shit because it was expected of them

Fascinating. I would have thought he would have been Gulaged or shot immediately.

yes of course, they re just crazy!


it had nothing with jews enslaving them and killing 1 in 5 ukrainians or anything!

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>Human soap
Rumor started during the war, ultimately had some truth to it; there was experimental soap production by the Germans.

>Shrunken Heads
True

>skin Lampshades
True. You can read about all of the above here; holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2017/11/nazi-shrunken-heads-human-skin.html

>Masturbation death machines
Comes from a book written by a person who lied about being Jewish, literally a known fraud. Not an authentic claim.

>Roller coasters of death
Not a real claim.

>Anne Frank Diary
Was written by Anne; hdot.org/debunking-denial/af2-diary-authentic/

>One testicle Hitler
Very important for the Holocaust

>Jewish Himmler
t. Who?

>ukrainians don-t hate lithuanians
>they dont hate italians
>they dont hate french
>they dont hate chinese
>they dont hate arabs

Because they dont live near them you moron. Ethnic hatreds flourish where there are different communities packed together and they have conflicting interests competing for power/resources. Ukrainian nationalists hated Jews, Poles and Russians, we had beefs with all our minorities, Germans with theirs and the Anglos have a long tradition of anti Celtic sentiment particularily towards the Irish. Think of Yugoslavia.both in WW2 and the 1990s.

Notice that I didnt say the Jews dindu nuffin, as they and the surrounding gentiles often have conflicting interests. Jews were widely hated because they lived in every country while other disporas resided only in specific regions

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>if there were six million people killed in camps and they weren't all Jewish
You understand that the 5-6 million death toll was always for the Jews and that the total death toll has always been said to be higher than that? I think you're just confused.

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what about the bear and eagle cage Mr. steinowitz

>Because they dont live near them you moron.
I mean lets see, they re bordered by hungarians, they dont hate hungarians
they re bordered by romanians, they dont hate romanians
they re bordered by slovaks, they dont hate slovaks
the only people they hate who live near them are russians, who spent the last several centuries enslaving them

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>they were enthusiastically helped out by the locals
Gee I wonder why?

Do you not think it's a little bit dishonest to treat a single claim from a single survivor in a newspaper article written 40 years after the end of the war as a serious testimony or historical claim about the Holocaust?

If I'm injured in a terrorist bombing and I say that one of my experiences was that I was attacked by a space alien dressed like Ronald McDonald does this discredit the testimony of everybody else who was there?

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I've seen the meme before, it's on the same level as the bear cage autism. It's a single account from a single person whose identity isn't even given in the meme. Playing this up as if it's a serious claim that historians make about the Holocaust is incredibly dishonest.

Lying is reflexive with your tribe, isn’t it?

“Jean Edward Smith in his biography, Lucius D. Clay, an American Life, reported that the general had maintained that the leather lamp shades were really made out of goat skin. The book quotes a statement made by General Clay years later:

There was absolutely no evidence in the trial transcript, other than she was a rather loathsome creature, that would support the death sentence. I suppose I received more abuse for that than for anything else I did in Germany. Some reporter had called her the "Bitch of Buchenwald", had written that she had lamp shades made of human skin in her house. And that was introduced in court, where it was absolutely proven that the lamp shades were made out of goat skin.[5]”

>If I'm injured in a terrorist bombing and I say that one of my experiences was that I was attacked by a space alien dressed like Ronald McDonald does this discredit the testimony of everybody else who was there?
yes

It existed but not nearly on the scale attributed to it nowadays, most of the crimes were committed by Soviets and up until relatively recently even properly associated in historical record.

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Yes, only because half of the holocaust stories are not only space alien Ronald McDonald-tier, but these ridiculous clown tales were not only "proven" in court and made illegal to question for decades, but then also discredited even by Jewish scholars later. You are a dumb little ADL Jew defending retardation like muh soap and lampshades.

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>Do you not think it's a little bit dishonest to treat a single claim from a single survivor in a newspaper article written 40 years after the end of the war as a serious testimony or historical claim about the Holocaust?
When you find evidence of systematic lying about a given event or events from numerous “witnesses” when you can show motive ($$$$$s), and means (totally guilt-ridden and gullible public) then you have all the elements necessary to question the totality.

easily, dehumanization and peer pressure is one hell of a drug.

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google "Holocaust by Bullets".

Its a book put out about 1990 to re-invent the Holohoax after "gas chambers" etc thoroughly debunked across WWW.

"Dear Goyim, please forget all about what we told you to "NEVER FORGET" from 1945-1990, the REAL Holocaust really, really happened....SOMEWHERE in the vast and tractless Russian steppe, SOMETIME when it was under Nazi control. Honest, we'd never lie".

interesting. It's always struck me as funny the way new evidence always pops up to counter any criticism of the existing story. It's never that the "revisionists" just happened to use faulty logic or incorrect data, it's that the actual REAL evidence hadn't been found yet. Then as soon as revisionists point out the holes in the new data, some NEW new data magically reveals itself to fill in those holes. First it was gas chambers, then it was magic ovens, then it was open air burning pits then it was neither of those things but normal mass executions who knows where.
For an official story that's illegal to criticize in many places, it sure changes an awful lot.

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exactly two distinct type of "Nazi's own records".

1)on original paper, with original ink, in with lots of similar and boring records related to operating camps for years. Like "LA county school lunch program" but different. That is what the Jews mean when they say "those Germans keep such good records".

2)"authenticated photocopy" submitted by Soviet delegation. These will include direct references to mass murders, but only to murders of Jews. They wont match any of the widely known ORIGINAL Nazi Govt forms, and will be of strange idiom not used in other known original govt forms. They will also be "stand alone" pieces of evidence.

He was also highly delusional in his last months. The generals didn't wanted a two front war and he ignored them. The second and third defense rows where mostly young germans who had just basic training and ended up fighting against battle hardened allies

I don't quite like this map.
England is still there.

>
>what about the bear and eagle cage Mr. steinowitz

what I find very Jewish is their need to re-use same story to try to force it to be true.

The "Pure Jew's Fat" was totally debunked, so they invented and whole NEW story, never heard prior to (guessing) 1990, that a Nazi DID really try to make soap out of Jews.

Yeah, a medical doctor makes his own low quality soap for use in the lab out of Jews, as a hobby. LOL.

Similar with that autoworker taken from USA to Israel and freed by that US Congressman. Even the Jew court had to free him in Israel, but years later Jews made up completely new fake story about the SAME GUY supposedly doing other stuff in another completely diff location, and that finally worked to get him deported or something.

You can't make this shit up.

>Jow Forums still can't cope with the existence of the Einsatzgruppen and that they killed a million jews

I am quite fascinated by the mental gymnastics

are you me?

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>Similar with that autoworker taken from USA to Israel and freed by that US Congressman
interesting read, thanks user.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Demjanjuk

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Jews were the ones who coined the term. "Rat Race"

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It quite fits from many angles, their peoples history and daily actions, to stockpiling shiny things.

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Who has ever denied the existence of the Einsatzgruppen? Another typical strawman. Killing a partisan, a commissar, or an NKVD agent is quite a difference from killing a poor, dindu nuffin tribe member. No gymnastics needed.

Important point. So much “evidence” of muh holocaust - including reconstructed gas chambers with wooden doors - come from the Soviets, who murdered 100 million in their own right!

Topkek.
Based Hans

>Anne Frank Diary (written posthumously by Dad)

Wrong

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Extremely based

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Yes, you are: “The Basel, Switzerland, Anne Frank Fonds (Anne Frank Fund)—which controls the copyright to the Diary of Anne Frank—has admitted that the book was in fact at least co-authored by Otto Frank, Anne’s father, after the war.

The admission proves that the book, which is still heavily promoted as a “holocaust memoir,” is in fact largely a postwar fabrication which contained parts of the young Anne’s diary with extensive additions added by her father.

This is obvious from even a cursory look at the actual diary. See, for example, the image below of two pages from the diary, which shows both Anne’s real youthful handwriting and her father’s obviously adult handwriting—although he signs his entries as “Anne Frank.”

Absolutely correct. First of all, the book was written in 2, VERY different styles of handwriting. One is the handwriting of a child (right) and the other one is obviously an adult's handwriting (left). How this is not self-evident to everyone is beyond me...
In fact, the copyright owners of the Anne Frank fraud actually admitted this and added a "co-author" so that they wouldn't loose their lucrative, white-guilt propaganda device to public domain.
nytimes.com/2015/11/14/books/anne-frank-has-a-co-as-diary-gains-co-author-in-legal-move.html

Last, but certainly not least, most of the book was written using a ballpoint pen yet the ballpoint pen was first introduced to the marketplace circa 1950, years after her dead!

Cram you, "Muh Tales of Holobunga" up your disguising, filthy, turbo-kike ass, Schlomo!

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