I have come to the conclusion that there is an inevitable correlation between globalism and veganism (particularly the diet aspect of veganism). The vegan diet also goes against self sufficiency.
For example:
>be self sufficient Pekka in spurdo land
>decide to be a vegan
>realize farming season is 3 months long at best
>die of malnutrition by November
Were a self sufficient man to live in an agriculturally harsh climate, where growing seasons are short, he would not survive. Plain and simple. Vegans of today will argue, that "we don't have to eat meat because we don't have the necessity". Certainly, the necessity isn't there when you live in globo homo cities and eat globo homo food. Thus, logically, veganism leads to people living in places of dense populations, and force people to consume third party plant products.
Following this chain of thoughts I conclude that at some point vegans will start advocating for people to live exclusively in areas around the equator, with long growing seasons and plenty of fruits year around. Vegans are also quite environmental, so one would think that bringing people closer to food (to prevent pollution by reducing shipping distances) would be in their interests.
More recently, the Canadian government introduced a new food guide for its citizens.
>pic related
>90% plants
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I predict that in the future the divide between people will become vastly sharper. On one side you'll find leftists, vegans, atheists, globalists and individualists. On the the other you'll find right wingers, meat eaters, nationalists and men of god. Veganism is clearly linked with the globalists, so I urge you not to go vegan. I say this out of love and hope for my fellow man.
>ive bought the controlled opposition
stupid fuck. there are plenty of right wing nationalist race realists who are vegan.
veganism is a hard redpill for Jow Forums, most people here cant top staring at the preventive propaganda that paints not eating animals a something for only leftwing so[yboy faggot.
you have been fooled.
veganism is judaism. everything you know about plant based diets is a lie. they're unhealthy. they kill you. organic grass fed meat from a healthy animal is the true way of health.
>veganism is judaism
this is an outright lie
already two idiot illustrating clearly that theyve swallowed the blue pill controlled opposition on the issue
"whole grains" are touted as health foods when really its some of the unhealthiest shit you can eat. grains cause heart disease. not prevent it.
Israel has the most vegans of any country.
its not the food that is at fault, it is peoples refusal to exercise.
being vegan is against traditional judaism
not doing something just because an israeli doe it is a stupid rule to live by
maybe but elitists in Israel eat human flesh
diet should be according to digestion. there is no place for ethics in my kitchen.
ok, satan.
I know there are right wingers who are vegans / vegetarians. Weren't there people here who said Hitler was a vegetarian (not sure if it is even true)? I'm not saying being a vegan is exclusively something a basedboy would do. My point is that in the future this divide will most likely be larger.
>222791372
>be self sufficient Pekka in spurdo land
>decide to be a vegan
>realize farming season is 3 months long at best
>die of malnutrition by November
you are some kind of special stupid aren't you.
i'm not doing it because its not healthy. veganism is a health destroyer.
checked
grains are seeds and seeds don't want to be eaten and thus are filled with anti-nutrients and provide very little nutrition
i think the probable has less to do with the act of eating meat and more to do with our disconnection from our food sources, monoculture crops, factory meat, and a disconnect between ourselves and nature. We need to retool our built environment to be less suited to global corporatism and more suited to the Local.
>I have come to the conclusion that there is an inevitable correlation between globalism and veganism
If you're vegan you cannot make the majority of traditional dishes, so it forces you to not celebrate your culture (food is culture, right?).
But the main problem isn't individuals that happen to be vegetarian/vegan but that (((they))) are constantly advocate for it, so it gives me a certain doubt if it is the right thing to do...
t. a vegetarian since childhood
If meat and organs are easy for our guts to digest (easier than plants) and are extremely nutritious and provide everything we need (meaning we don't need to supplement) then I think it's completely moral to hunt animals for food, as anything else would mistreatment towards the human body.
I'm a carnivore lol
in the distant future eating meat wont be possible on a large scale and all the bluepilled bloodline will end up eating insects
Thank you for your response. I understand the cultural thing, in some cases, I think, we must move on to some other cultural habits. Try the carnivore diet for some time. If it doesn't work then quit it, but I highly recommend you try it.
Same, been for 6 months now. Feels great.
research human nutrition instead of basing your claim on industry propaganda and memes
>ex was vegan prior to meeting me
>start redpilling her on eating animal products
>all "leg-numbness"-type of symptoms gone after eating eggs for a week
>after a while of symptoms gone, she tries to make us eat less animal products
>arguments about diet, politics and our economic situations escalate
>physical fights, yelling etc.
>dump the bitch
Can women ever be loyal and just trust what their man is telling them? Do I really have to find a submissive and dumb gf instead of a headstrong gf that I could be proud of?
Wasnt that long ago vegans were seen as fringe crazy, Why did the skip over vegetarians?
>just trust me
>regurgitates industry propaganda
Nice going, you swallowed the beef pill. It’s well know that beef farmers have powerful shills working for them.
Nothing says “healthy” like heart disease! Right,bro?
because vegetarians keep mass breeding and slaughter of animals going. these demons summoned are valuable to certain entities.
Bf does the carnivore diet because low FODMAP failed his IBS, carnivore makes it seem like it's cured now. It can't be cured but damn close to it as it can get
Good point i have not thought about the self sufficiency part.
>industry propaganda
What did he mean by this?
Encourage brown people to go vegan. Thank me later.
That's fantastic! For me the improvements were more subtle but plenty
kek
Heart disease from over consumption is a far smaller risk compared to all of the malnutrition diseases rampant in the vegan community. But you're Canadian, so veganism is the only way to fit in with your weak, feminine countrymen.
go carnivore and say good bye to heart disease
btw are you the leaf who makes threads about veganism?
>Nothing says “healthy” like heart disease!
how is beef conneted to heart disease?
Plants is food of failed hunter.
Going full plant based is healthier, and bad for you at the same time. If most people reduced the quantity and number of servings of meat, in a week, to something like 3-4 times a week MAX, then we'd all be much healthier.
Eating processed sandwich meats 3-4 times a day turns you into a beached fucking whale. Eat fish, or the occasional grass fed open range beef. 3-4 times a week, MAX. Everything else should be veggies/fruit/grains.
ELIMINATE DAIRY except on rare occasion.
Mennyt saatanan paholainen.
Humans were designed to eat whats available for each season. High vegitation diet in the summer and fall, high protein and fat diet in the winter and spring. Spring and fall diets being transitional.
Humans over time with food preservation advances have lost touch with their ancestors dietary instincts. Keto and paleo are the best modern diets we have. Keto preferred over paleo because paleo tends to be too high in protein.
This is true. The diet as you described it is vastly superior to the Standard American Diet (aka. SAD). So basically:
>stop eating processed foods
Recommend trying carnivore. Worked great for me.
holy shit Pekka lay off the vodka and sauna
>dietary habits make you a globalist or some made-up political spectrum junkie (whatever that even is)
veganism means not eating anything that comes from animals, which is a bit stupid
vegetarianism means not eating corpses, which is fine, healthy and good for all conscious living beings
>which is fine, healthy and good for all conscious living beings
Wrong
>Mennyt saatanan paholainen.
hähä
vegetarian spotted. and my point was that vegans and globalists have similar end goals, hence the title of this thread "The Vegan Solution"
>my vegan cat loves his transition
>he's lost a lot of weight
>sleeps a lot more though, i wonder why...
vegetarian is fine until you can raise your own livestock.
I think you should focus more on eating REAL and CLEAN food whether meat or veggies. Doesnt make much sense to argue about the best food to eat when your going to die from eating poisonous shit that's only good for (someone else's)profits.
fair point
You're not completely wrong.
The highest life expectancy is Japanese Islands in Okinawa.
Indigenous green plants as a base seems good. With free range, unmolested animal protein and fat is GOAT.
Sugar is uneccesary. You have essential aminos and essential fatty acids but there's no such thing as essential sugars. You don't need sugar, ween yourself off the white devil.
>ELIMINATE DAIRY
>found the nigger
It's not really healthy though
Okinawa as in "the island of pork" Okinawa?
>Sugar is uneccesary. You have essential aminos and essential fatty acids but there's no such thing as essential sugars. You don't need sugar, ween yourself off the white devil.
This is the key to health.
Sounds like a communist ploy to justify starvation but okay
Exactly! Eat processed food! Science and Monsanto know best! Fuck nature and Fuck vegetables!
Vegetarianism is the true redpill. This means clean production of absolutely everything you need for a healthy life.
So you are on the same developmental level as a cat?
If so - have you eaten your cat already? Do you keep it as food?
how is eating animals against nature? you're right about vegetables. the rest of your post is utter garbage, mohammad
Ignore the vegans and boys
Paleo and keto**
>you can’t get non processed meat
Fucking bongs
>be vegan
>a vegan friend runs up to you visibly upset
>you ask them whats the matter
>they say their best vegan friend's teeth are falling out
>calmly you say they're merely doing the diet wrong
>with your mouth close
>you poke the gap with your tongue left from your tooth falling out early that day
>Vegetarianism is the true redpill. This means clean production of absolutely everything you need for a healthy life.
Then why are my vegan friends always sick and tired?
>So you are on the same developmental level as a cat?
Cats are carnivores not omnivores like us, so obviously not. Can you explain why humans evolved to consume meat? I want to see you realize that we eat meat for a reason. Its a very simple reason that vegans always overlook.
Go on, research it, I'll be here waiting to hear your answer.
If anyone wonders what sort of mentality it takes to be a flat Earther, this is it.
Nice satanic digits btw.
You forgot the third side: anarchists and technocrats. And they'll shred you both into fucking ribbons.
>why are my vegan friends always sick and tired
Because they are vegans, not vegetarians. And likely tryhard memelords at that. People who actually care about their diet shut up and let their results speak.
To answer your other question, of course you can eat meat. You have evolved as a bipedal omnivore, so you can do almost whatever you want with your body. The trick is to do the responsible, logically sound things that are beneficial and sustainable in the long run. It's a simple trick though sometimes made hard to grasp by TPTB.
I really, really like the first two and the last letter of my ID.
Would I rather trust million years of evolution or the idea of some braindead faggots who think they know everything? Difficult choice.
This is palpably untrue. Where are you getting this?
From his ass. If he wants to head in that direction he should know that eating seeds with gratefulness and love helps their spiritual evolution, but that's a topic for another day.
How the fuck is a vegan diet healthy anyway? Seriously, how in Gods green earth do you get 2,500 calories a day from a vegan diet? That's just to maintain the weight of the average male - you need an extra 500-600 calories to build muscle and tonnes of protein.
So, where are the calories coming from? You would have to eat tonnes of carbs without any meat or dairy which is unhealthy.
>completely dodged the question
Oof
the two main things that made humans dominate over planet earth was an omnivore diet and the fire we created to cook the food in our diet.
why would you give up half of what made us what we are?
beyond that vegans are the most detached people from nature i have ever seen and only exist in cities and suburbs where you have the infrastructure to support their retarded world views.
anyone who actual has spent any time in nature up close knows exactly how harsh and cruel it is and understands the symbiotic relationship we have with domesticated animals.
sickness, weather, predators, starvation...no wild animal dies of old age, they die painful and gruesome deaths, we protect them from that and give them good comfy lives in exchange for the food they provide when the time comes.
nobody but robots and morons supports shit like factory farming, not even farmers, if you live in a rural community you know how much all of the farmers hate the mother fucker with the corporate contracts, as usual corporations fuck everything up, they drive down the prices and make it hard for people who raise their animals right to survive...beyond that they tend to destroy the ecosystem of these places by having herds that big in such a small area.
i could go on, but it's lost on a lot of people as most of you live in the cities and burbs have no clue what reality is and what life is actually like, i feel sorry for you guys, your world view is based on being in these large disgusting societies that have no basis in anything other than themselves, it's a false reality that's created in these places and you don't know any different because you have never lived any different....i say fuck going to travel the world if you get the chance, go and sit in the woods alone for a few months and get to know yourself and the world as it is, to a certain extent humanity and civilization is a plague on this planet....
don't worry i forgive you for not knowing, what you don't know.
Pollan says everything he's learned about food and health can be summed up in seven words: "Eat food, not too much, mostly plants." ... "Eat food" means to eat real food -- vegetables, fruits, whole grains, and, yes, fish and meat -- and to avoid what Pollan calls "edible food-like substances."
Many will call Michael pollan a leftist but there can be no doubt that he knows far more about nutrition than anyone here.
Personally I think veganism is silly and an ideology rather than a diet. I've seen some vegans refuse wine because it wasn't labelled as vegan. Vegan pastries and cake are usually vile. I'm not a vegetarian but usually don't eat meat more than about twice a week. I consider myself to be pretty fit and am plenty strong and vigorous enough to do whatever activities I fancy.
Damning vegetarianism because one views it as "leftist" is also stupid
yikes....i hate half chan and it's reddit verbage.
Lets not forget that a lot of people have issues with converting plant forms of vitamins into animal ones to be used by the body.
we have lost the way as a society. We no longer honor the kill. The real truth is youre already indoctrinated into satanism.
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I have not dodged it at all, the answer lies outside your initial scope
a vegan diet is only healthy if your a fat fuck in the first place, a vast majority of people are out of shape and eat like shit, so when they go vegan they start dropping weight and get all of the fake chemical laden food out of their system, so it does in fact make them healthier...up to a certain point, once they've actually gotten somewhat healthy they start going negitive becuase they lack protein and a bunch of other things you need to actually be healthy, they try to use supplements but a supplement is just that, a supplement, it's not the real thing and you're trying to get what you need through other means....attrition sets in.
i could see going vegan as a cleansing process but as an actual diet....eeehh no.
i'm vegan an cap, if i had to eat meat to survive i would but i don't so why bother? i'd eat a person just as quickly as i would an animal if it came down to it no fucks given. i see no moral reasons against eating meat and don't care if other people hunt or farm etc i just don't like the texture it feels like i'm eating pieces of myself, and now that i'm not used to eating meat it tastes disgusting too (had a meat dumpling mixed in with vegetable ones at a chinese food place not too long ago, didn't notice before i took a bite)
Vegan diets aren't the same,thing as vegan ideology.
Veganism based on 'antispeciesism' that sees no morally significant difference between humans and goldfish = broke antinatalist nihilism
Vegan lifestyle based on promoting the virtues of temperance and charity, as a tool to build self control against temptation and ultimately the impulse to sin, and as a part of a holistic pro-life philosophy = woke
meat is meat.
you're a fool, the dichotomy will clearly be one of class. the poor get junk food, grease, slop, and bugs, while the rich establishment gets fresh veggies with no atrazine and grass fed beef
you could have linked us to the right time in the vid man...
regardless, look at the domestication of animals, we started with the wolf, all domesticated animals are a product of a symbiotic relationship.
the wolf helped us and we helped the wolf, as for cattle and the like, we provided them with shelter from weather,starvation, predators, sickness, we offered a lot in exchange for what we got, the problem is we have forgot it's a relationship and as you say don't honor the kill, you don't have to go hunting to have honor in the kill, i'd argue that if you've raised and tended to something it's entire life you should have more respect for it than just some deer you come across in the wood.
Veganism is just extreme liberalism. They deny death and suffering. And this is the problem of the west liberalism. It tries to turn the lifetime of a man in a prolonged eutanasia(eutanasia means "good death"). And this goes against the nature of a man and the ideas as a whole - ideas like christianity, nazism, communism. They are all fueled by death and suffering and by commemorating the death and suffering your soul continues to live.
veganism is just another way to feminize men
Vegan is for pussies, so fuck off vegan fag. Go choke on some cucumbers.
mmmmm
so delicious
Or he'll hit you with a femur with a piece of flint tied to the end. And carry off your woman no doubt. Because he big man.
You didn't even read what OP wrote because it's not pro vegan
>222
Wasted triple
How disappointing
imaging willingly cucking yourself from eating the best food in the work, litterally the ambrosia, in exchange for a bucket of onions lol
vegans are truely insane
You didn't read what OP wrote either
how do you consolidate being a faggot and a vegan?
i mean you do eat a large number of dicks.
Where can I find good sausage? They always over salt everything.
>leftists
>AND individualists
No.
Here in Bavaria we make the best sausages
You should know this
>666
Begone you foul beast!
I dont agree with cooked food being good
Raw meat is healthier, cooked food has carcinogens and raw foods are more digestable, i dont know how the cooked food gives more nutrition meme started
you still cook things like bones and hides etc otherwise they are hard to eat, but meats and organs you eat raw for optimal healh
move to the UK.
funnily enough most of the food there sucks but they do a pretty good job of bangers and burgers...the meat there does taste different, not bad but different, they just typically suck at seasoning and the actual cooking bit.
also never eat at a "Mexican" restaurant there, Mexicans can't swim that far so the British have no clue what refried beans actually are and will typically refuse to eat them based on appearance alone.