Calm down billy-bob johnny-joe-harris, the cuckservative rightards still rule the world...

This but unironically.

>Government interventionism doesn't work

Obviously. It failed to stop capitalism from ruining the US economy.

>when the cope hits

It works when it isn't being subverted by Communists and Muslims. We adapt to changes in the economy based on safety and standards, testing and evaluation, safety and logging. We have refined our processes over the years, but many people are just too fucking dumb to know how all the pieces fit together. Usually it's because Communists breed an air of distrust and fear of each other, because you never know who is going to turn in who, and for whatever reasons they make up. Because it's either them or you.

And Islam? Lol. Look at pictures of the Mid-East. So diverse.

Who has the biggest shares, of foreign investors, in companies claiming to be United States companies? LLC? Private? What is the difference in legal status of an organization? It's power based on state approval? (Security companies like Blackwater, the contractors that ran security at the WTC buildings, etc.)

It seems since this Q thing that most of us have become complacent, and relying on the work of others. Burned out?

Dig a little, that's all I'm saying. Sum of all Fears? Q mentioned Dressler's speech. Hegelian Dialectic.

There's nothing wrong with nationalism, but the ideologies are what really separate us. The ideologies drive the cultures, what crimes are acceptable and what crimes are not. Why is the NY/NJ area full of retired gansters? Baltimore? Boston? LA? Chicago? Florida?

Divide and conquer lol

>It works when it isn't being subverted by capitalists
ftfy
The only ideology that ruined the US economy was nothing so complex as communism or islam. It was a very simple ideology, so simple that people who don't examine their beliefs often believe in it by default, yet so obviously wrong that almost no one who *has* ever examined their own beliefs for longer than 5 minutes believes in it anymore. This ideology is called greed.

Saul Alinsky? Rules for Radicals?

Overburden the DOJ; overburden our ability to punish crime. Cripple our ability to police ourselves, and they can swim in a sea of corruption.

You're like a dog that bites the rope, and pulls, and tugs... Then I let go of the rope, and you thrash it around and growl a bit, declaring victory of the rope.

I wish you the best of luck in life.

Fuck u liberal retard

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Inequality wasn't created through crime, it was created through unethical behavior that wasn't criminal at the time, and couldn't be punished after the fact because that would be unconstitutional.

Keep seething and dilate, tranny

you just mad because you know it's true uwu (uwu) u wu)>

So because it wasn't technically a crime, it's just okay to do?
Apparently it's not a crime to shoot up or take a shit in the street on the LEFT coast.
ANTIFA runs Portland, and literally calls Jews and gay Asians and Catholics... Nazis.

So, welcome to clown world glowniggers, this is mostly your fault for not taking your oaths seriously and being caught with your pants down. Fucking sell outs. I truly hate you.

As an example of "creeping law enforcement", yet another example from Rules for Radicals (read the fucking book, and look at whats going on right now): Giving college kids tons of chewing gum to spit on the sidewalk. Stupid sounding, you might think? But what if your city streets were actually clean, and maintained? What if no one spat gum and dip spit on the sidewalks? America used to be something great when we had engineers and innovators, not gender study majors with a minor in misdirection and misinformation.

Whatever lol

>So because it wasn't technically a crime, it's just okay to do?
No, of course not, my point is that it had nothing to do with muh secret commie ops crippling law enforcement and everything to do with elite corporate bigwigs carefully tiptoeing around the letter of the law to squeeze every dollar they could out of the common man.

Oh you mean businessmen like JP Morgan? Rockerfeller? Prescott Bush?

Yeah, they were for *any* form of "democratic socialism". Could be Fascism, could be Communism. Doesn't matter to them, as long as they can spend their big bonuses to translate into political power.

Do you know who Smedley Butler is? Read.
Research the term "Fabian Socialism" while you're at it.

Trump supporters are uneducated shitbags boomers who unironically vote against their own economic interests

>Yeah, they were for *any* form of "democratic socialism".
Yet their strategies were capitalist.
>Doesn't matter to them, as long as they can spend their big bonuses to translate into political power.
And *that* doesn't matter to *me*, because the real problem is that they got their big bonuses in the first place. Money will always be power one way or another, that's one of two reasons why economic justice is so important. The other reason is so that people can survive.

Also, you do know Communism was written in 1848, right?

They've had a long time to plan.

And there still a bunch of cluck head failures

The only thing commies are good at is starving and being meat shields

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Can’t wait until rapid demographic change replaces theses uneducated Hicks , who are class traitors and American citizen traitors

Economic justice rofl.

If the system wasn't fucking corrupted by the Communists and Muslims, the mobsters and everyone else involved in attempting to take us down, greed wouldn't be a problem. We have laws on the books to stop this shit, but they're not being followed because of said corruption.

Heard of "Operation Snow White" is? Good one, too.

There is a whole sea of shit you're probably not even aware of. Jordan Peterson is a good place to start for most. If you can't even clean your room or handle your own finances, wtf? Simple basic stuff. You couldn't figure out that studying why the capitalistic system is bad and broken by communists in the college education system, would bring you here to spew your dumb bull shit?

100 million dead from communist mismanagement from 1900 to 2000, and that's a fairly accurate metric. And for what? Because Mao Zedong found magical mangoes? Does Kim Jong Un really not have to take a shit?

LOL communism is the cult of personality, not logic.

Communists wanting to abuse the huge amounts of money they have has nothing to do with communism and everything to do with them unjustly acculumating huge amounts of money. Which they did by exploiting the systemic flaws of capitalism. Communist and muslim agendas would have no power to influence anyone or anything if capitalism didn't let them accrue that power.

left and right are meaningless, the government has been pushing the same underlying agenda for decades regardless, people who fall for the left and right shit are clinging to ideals or too ignorant to realize voting is just a pacification and division tool.

maybe left and right would matter if we dissolved the federal government, redistributed land and divided up the country into several smaller countries held together by a peace treaty and trade negotiations because that's pretty much the only way anyone in this country is going to see any of their ideals actually exist.

>dissolved the federal government, redistributed land and divided up the country into several smaller countries held together by a peace treaty and trade negotiations
This should be done on a larger scale than just the US. If every country in the world were divided up into VERY small countries, the size of individual hunter-gatherer villages, not only would there be global political freedom, but there would also be world peace with the exception of small-scale feuds between neighbors, and the environment would also be saved.

That's not the point ffs, the point is the ideologies of Islam and Communism are destructive by nature. These cultures and civilizations that attempt them are always consumed by themselves because of the inherent nature of how the "ganster mentality" works: If you leave the gang, you die.

In capitalism, if you leave capitalism, you can start your own system. Whatever. If it works better than capitalism, eventually it will win. But the system should strive to benefit those who contribute, not demand shit. Fuck you I don't owe you anything.

>tthe jews control both sides.
They don't though. You're paranoid and a defeatist.

i agree that this kind of thing needs to happen everywhere, but as an american i feel like it's better to hyperfocus on trying to convince american citizens of this reality. left and right don't have to scapegoat each other we could just fight our common enemy and then have plenty of room to fuck off away from each other and do what we feel is best.

nah things keep going the way they are with technology and government and it'll mostly just be downies smiling at machines more intelligent than them that they clean.

>the point is the ideologies of Islam and Communism are destructive by nature.
You're the only one who's been talking about islam and communism, *my* point this entire time has been that *capitalism* is ineffective. I agree, the system should strive to benefit those who contribute. Which capitalism doesn't. Capitalism only benefits middlemen. Also known as "employers" or "companies." They sit their asses down between those who contribute goods and services and those who contribute funds, and they suck up the funds and leave the laborers with nothing but leftovers. We need a better capitalism that also isn't communism. One where the workers do indeed own the means of production, but also they can still sell their work instead of the state in turn owning the workers. As it is now, the workers can *nominally* sell their work, but it doesn't mean shit because businesses and the state own the means of production, and even though they don't *technically* own the workers or their work, they *effectively* own them because of this discrepancy in who owns the utilities.

Don't worry dude, most of these people who post in the day time have never had a real job in their live's, and they think they are based because they "don't serve the Jew" by being NEET's. They're complete fucking losers who don't know much of anything about politics, but the Jews rule everything for sure!!!

These people think that National Socialism is about to come to rise, even though it doesn't even exist. There's like maybe 50 posters here on Jow Forums, and most aren't even Natsoc.

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So you're a racist classist stick up your ass fucktard?
Stop lying to yourself, OP. Nobody wants you alive, not even you.

Now you just have a right ol' seat there Billy-Bob Jiffy-Johnson-Jones.

better capitalism would be capitalism that didn't have the government putting a shit ton of red tape on what small business owners can and can't do while taxing them and requiring so much licensing it's hard for them to even start. better capitalism would be consumers being more responsible and realizing their money is essentially a vote and they they're creating the conditions that cause them to suffer every time they make a bad choice.

>when both political parties that dominate your country in the current year would've been considered borderline anarchist tier and wholly degenerate a century ago, but somehow you're convinced that literally everyone is a fascist except you
so damn gay

I mostly agree, but we need to stop having businesses altogether. Under actually good capitalism, businesses wouldn't exist, only workers would exist. Everyone would be self-employed, and conduct free trade on an INDIVIDUAL, PERSON-TO-PERSON level, and there would be no such thing as a brand or its credibility. We need to take some kind of measures to prevent corporate middlemen from existing again, even if the measures we take can't be through a centralized government.

You're low IQ. Nobody talks like that in real life.

sometimes businesses are more efficient than just individuals doing everything themselves and expecting working together to just be a cooperative thing. that's why cash incentives work and keep people going.

>Businesses wouldn't exist.
>Everyone would be self-employed.
So businesses essentially.

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Then why are fags like you allowed to get married?

I agree that it can be more efficient, but the threat of corruption posed by centralized management of production or commerce is too great to permit. Our present economy is evidence of that.
Whatever you want to call them, the point is they absolutely must not involve middlemen.

eat shit and die you fucking piece of shit globalist rat fuck. Fucking skin yourself

Demonstrably false

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I do acknowledge there are a lot of demographics leftists defend who also have power at the moment. However, those demographics themselves. aren't leftist. They're right-wing. And quite hypocritical for it if I may say so.

our present economy is proof that government laying in bed with corporations and irresponsible consumerism cause issues. the reality is less red tape and more responsible consumers would eliminate most issues while maintaining a quality of life people want, you'll get few advancements keeping businesses limited in the way you're talking along with less efficiency over time. there are just some things that a single individual can't do that workers are good for

the government should have no control over marriage whether it's gay or straight.

>Shit
>Die
>Fucking
>Shit
>Rat
>Fuck
>Fucking
>Skin yourself.

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A syngogue aint finiashed until someone burned it, jidf

>haha the free expression of average people who have no real political influence totally exactly mirrors the actual distribution of political power, r--r--rite guise
>our present economy is proof that government laying in bed with corporations and irresponsible consumerism cause issues
This is true but I still strongly distrust corporate middlemen. Personally, an inferior quality of products and services for a greater sense of security in knowing corporations can't take over is a trade I as a citizen would make in a heartbeat. In fact, the inferior quality of products and services may even be good for us. I think it would help do something about the obesity epidemic.

Prove he's JIDF.

What is a JIDF? Is that like a MILF?

corporations only take over because people allow them to, it's the people's choice if it happens when there's an actual free market.

Our current problem with consumerism is proof that people can't be trusted not to make that terrible choice.

>Everyone I disagree with is Hitler.
>Everyone I disagree with is JIDF.
You guys are exactly the same as Communists, the irony!

part of the reason people make those choices is due to government red tape keeping more options from being available. also poor education. unless you expect everyone to farm and hunt for themselves and live in a primitive society you have to allow for some growth.

>part of the reason people make those choices is due to government red tape keeping more options from being available. also poor education.
That's true, and I agree that less regulations on small businesses (on *small* businesses in particular) might help fix that a little bit. I'm just not convinced it would fix it enough. It's my sincere belief that managers by their nature are just too crafty and deceptive, and after awhile, the same thing would just happen again.
>unless you expect everyone to farm and hunt for themselves and live in a primitive society
I agree with the thing you said after this, that we have to allow for some growth, but that being said, am I the only one who unironically yearns for these times past?

The day you attempt your fucking revolution is the day I fucking celebrate. It's going to be open season on pinkos scum.

personally i would be ok with living off grid and fending for myself, but it's hard to tell an entire population that's how they're going to have to live and it wouldn't work ultimately. people will always come together to try to create something larger and have power it's in our nature. systems always fail and need to be destroyed. if people don't want to see large corporations take over then they need to use their money like a voting tool. sure you could wipe the slate clean in the beginning but expecting things to not develop and have a government that actively keeps development down seems foolish to me. yes some people are crafty and deceptive and able to use that to get ahead just like some people are physically strong and able to use violence to get what they want etc and so on. there will always be people who have needs an individual is incapable of providing and building institutions can do more good than completely eliminating them out of fear.

I understand and respect your opinion, but personal opinion is really what it comes down to:
>building institutions can do more good than completely eliminating them out of fear.
I can see how someone might think this and I think it's possible you're right. I really do believe in all the good an institution can do. Maybe they can do more good than eliminating them out of fear. Personally I'm just not convinced of that. I totally don't think you're wrong for being convinced of it, I'm just not.

They control both political parties.

This.

>not slaving away for a kike makes you a loser
lmao

so i guess you envision a world where hospitals run without people getting paid? or just no hospitals or emts etc? what about education?

>hospitals
doctors
>education
teachers
I know contracting individual self-employed doctors to take care of you isn't a real solution if you're very sick but I don't have a good answer to that. Individual standalone doctors is obviously not a good answer, but in my mind, corporate hospitals isn't a good answer either, and neither is nonprofit hospitals.

>part of the reason people make those choices is due to government red tape keeping more options from being available.
No, its because most people weren't bred to rule. They only have their immediate pleasures in mind. Democracy is anti-natural and the biggest front for jew domination in the world.

kys yids
all kikes burn in hell

Shut the fuck up kike.

Based

>>cuckservative rightards still rule the world

God help us.

>Which they did by exploiting the systemic flaws of capitalism. Communist and muslim agendas would have no power to influence anyone or anything if capitalism didn't let them accrue that power.
Fuck off retard.

fpbp

>but we need to stop having businesses altogether
God give me strength...

education and health care are both businesses that require money to make them work, people aren't going to take time and effort and put it into learning skills like that if they have to worry about doing a whole bunch of shit on their own to make sure they can survive and eat etc not to mention the high likelihood of medical advancements declining etc and so on in a world where there just aren't businesses at all. what about transportation? what about things like fuel?

government control over the market does keep small businesses down, that's just reality. i never said democracy was necessarily a good idea, popular opinion is obviously not infallible, however in regards to capitalism it's better to give people more options than exert too much control.

Transportation and fuel have done us more harm than good really, I say we get rid of them. Education and health care are both very important though. I still hold people *would* take time and effort to learn skills like that *even if* they have to worry about doing it all on their own, because doing it all on your own would be the norm for things in general.

This is by far cringiest and dumbest thing i seen on Jow Forums and thats a achievment. Rightists are that much in control that literaly need to hide themself in fear of lynch by liberal npc and can't even partialy express themselfs because of censorship on social media. Sure kid. We are winning. Absolutely.

>government control over the market does keep small businesses down, that's just reality.
Maybe some of the regulations do, but I think natural monopolies do most of the damage. Economies of scale pretty much ensure all small business are gobbled up by mega corps in an unregulated market.

You just think right wingers are the ones who need to hide themselves "in fear of lynch by liberal npc" because what you understand as the right wing is too far right. When I said right wingers are in control I meant the REAL right wingers, not you retards.

if monopolies exist it's because the masses allow for it, but if there was less red tape on small businesses and less taxes etc then there would be more options and less of a likelihood of monopolies in the first place.

so you want to take things back really far huh? the thing is that's something people would have to adapt to, not the sort of world you can thrust your average person into and most wouldn't go for it.

how would you enforce it?

Lol. Do you even understand actual meaning of word.. right-wing or left-wing? Like.. seriously?

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>how would you enforce it?
We'd have to do it some way other than centralized government, because they're just as corruptible as corporate middlemen. I can think of two approaches.
1) Cultural change. We teach people to want this world so that they enforce it themselves. This doesn't seem too reliable.
2) Insurmountable physical obstacles. We physically confine ourselves to this lifestyle in a way that can't corrupt anyone with power, by placing physical barriers which, once placed, are in no one's control, and also separate us from the resources we need to overpower them. Like really tall, thick, hard walls, that we then leave the tools we used to make them outside of so we can't unmake them. How we'd arrange them in such a way as to prevent what we want to prevent and nothing else, I don't know.

>hurr durr normal people are the retards, not like me and my tranny friend son the far left
>hurr durr the world is controlled by the right, which is why we have mass immigration and transgenderism and multiculturalism and the death of religion and peadophiles being promoted and rape gangs and terrorist attacks all the time hurr durr

>hurr durr everyone born before us is a far rightwing facists
>hurr durr things that are normal in non-white countries are considered far right here
>hurr durr we’re not the ones who are far left even though the data shows there’s been a massive shift to the left, you guys are just far right

You are literally retarded

>delusions
>from the retard who thinks everyone right of Stalin is far right because that’s what his favourite celebrity told him to think

t. Retard embarrassed that his side is too dumb to create memes

>hurr durr the wealthiest country in the world that everyone wants to get into is proof the capitalism is a failure.

We’ll just ignore the fact that people flee communist countries to get to America shall we

>capitalism runined the economy that is only successful because of capitalism

Imagine actually being this retarded. No wonder you blame successful people for being a pathetic loser

people will always find a way to corrupt something over time, and i think it'd be impossible to keep some kind of system from taking over longterm. a good deal of people want to be controlled, it makes them feel safe.

instead of post this shit bait on this shit site, why don't you do something more productive? like go to some nigger infested rat nest in chicago and preach this bull shit there? you're just a sperg looking for attention and reaction comments to your stupidity, you fucking faggot.

Very based britfag. Literal fags like OP have no idea what they talk about

>mass immigration and transgenderism and multiculturalism and the death of religion and peadophiles being promoted and rape gangs and terrorist attacks
These are all right-wing problems.
>mass immigration
Immigrants are right wingers, notice how they hate LGBTQ. The far left is at fault for endorsing mass immigration, but the immigrants themselves are only problems because of their right wing tendencies.
>transgenderism
Trannies are right wingers, notice how they hate blacks. The far left is at fault for endorsing transgenderism, but the trannies themselves are only problems because of their right wing tendencies.
>multiculturalism
Multiculturalists are right wingers, notice how they embrace the oppression of women. The far left is at fault for endorsing multiculturalism, but the multiculturalists themselves are only problems because of their right wing tendencies.
>death of religion
Atheists are right wingers, notice how they hate muslims. The far left is at fault for endorsing atheism, but the atheists themselves are only problems because of their right wing tendencies.
>pedophiles and rape gangs
Pedophiles and rape gangs are right wingers, notice how they embrace the oppression of women. The far left is at fault for endorsing LGBTQ, but the pedophiles and rape gangs themselves are only problems because of their right wing tendencies.
>terrorist attacks
Terrorists are right wingers, notice how they hate LGBTQ and embrace the oppression of women. The far left is at fault for endorsing mass immigration, but the terroists themselves are only problems because of their right wing tendencies.

Point being, identity politics aren't a left thing, they're a far left thing, and the demographics who the far left defend with their identity politics aren't even leftists, they're right wingers, which is exactly why they're such destructive excuses for human beings.

UwU OwO whats this

>implying the ruined economy is successful
>the wealthiest maybe-10-people in the world
ftfy
lol i don't even into celebrities dude, tv rots you're brain

FPBP
DEATH TO JEWS