So we all know communism was a shit ideology but do you think if Trotsky could have been officially in charge and wasnt exiled every two weeks that Russia could have been more prosperous? Inb4 slide ive been researching the original leaders in Russia responsible for the monarchy. I feel like unlike Stalin and Lenin who were opportunist, Trotsky actually believed he was helping the serfs/peasants
Trotsky was born Lev Davidovich Bronstein on 7 November 1879 in Yanovka, Ukraine, then part of Russia. His father was a prosperous Jewish farmer. Trotsky became involved in underground activities as a teenager. He was soon arrested, jailed and exiled to Siberia where he joined the Social Democratic Party. Eventually, he escaped Siberia and spent the majority of the next 15 years abroad, including a spell in London.
In 1903, the Social Democrats split. While Lenin assumed leadership of the 'Bolshevik' (majority) faction, Trotsky became a member of the 'Menshevik' (minority) faction and developed his theory of 'permanent revolution'. After the outbreak of revolution in Petrograd in February 1917, he made his way back to Russia. Despite previous disagreements with Lenin, Trotsky joined the Bolsheviks and played a decisive role in the communist take-over of power in the same year. His first post in the new government was as foreign commissar, where he found himself negotiating peace terms with Germany. He was then made war commissar and in this capacity, built up the Red Army which prevailed against the White Russian forces in the civil war. Thus Trotsky played a crucial role in keeping the Bolshevik regime alive. He saw himself as Lenin's heir-apparent, but his intellectual arrogance made him few friends, and his Jewish heritage may also have worked against him. When Lenin fell ill and died, Trotsky was easily outmaneuvered by Stalin. In 1927, he was thrown out of the party. Internal and then foreign exile followed, but Trotsky continued to write and to criticize Stalin.
trotsy was an internationalists. therefore he would have been more antagonistic towards the west. ww2 could have been the west v ussr
Nicholas White
>trotsy Trotsky*
Angel Flores
Profound anti-commie here: I actually respect Trotsky to some extent, don't get me wrong he was extremely authoritarian and violent like all commies, but at least I gotta recognize that he was an intellectual man and he truly believed in what he said (something which not even Lenin truly did). To be fair, Soviet Russia was the first real attempt at Marxism so I give them the benefit of the doubt of not being able to predict how fucked up their regime would turn (though actual economists from the first half of the 20th century like von Mises already were saying that the USSR would crash down hard before the 2000s). In any case, he was definitely better than Stalin in everything. With him in command I doubt the Holodomor would have happened, and most probably the USSR would have never become the most totalitarian and controlling regime ever to exist.
Alexander Butler
jewish communist.... this is going to be a tough one...
Im not defending him in that light. Just getting different opinions on him. From what Ive read Russia was just step one. He was going to push communism into every corner of Europe.
Nathaniel Ross
However, like most jews he was kicked out of like ten countries until Mexico took him in.
Nicholas Reed
Fuck off shill
Adam Thompson
>shill not a single thing I said glorifies communism. I was merely asking if you thought Trotsky was as evil as Lenin and stalin.
Chase Jackson
trotsky was a communist globalist Isn't he one of the people who inspired the progressive modern left movement? All that poor blacks and poor immigrant bullshit?
They're all pretty fuck in the head with regards to how shitty communist utopias really is, i remember reading how they had to smuggle basic shit into communist countries in indep magazines a decade ago. And it was not because there was a block from the west, it was because it inspired anti communist tendencies. Seems pretty fucked up if you ask me.
Oliver Peterson
Laughing in North Korean
Aaron Russell
Also why do communist utopias never produce ANY art or artists.
Kevin White
I am sad Mercader couldn't stick another ice pick in his head personally
Its always about getting that cancerous blob of excess humans to multiply and live in utter misery until they die of disease or something. With nothing to show for, both for the society as a whole and on an individual level. Communism is just overpopulation with no brake attached, and no art to convey anything of significance.
Its probably the quickest way to overpopulate and destroy the planet.
Dominic Young
is that why they produce PC shit now?
Jonathan Price
This is yet proof Jow Forums is comped. SAGED.
Ian Jackson
If i larped as a nazi would you feel better. I hate communism but you know I also like to read about history. Eventually you have to dip into other ideologies because Mein Kampf can only be read so many times.
Like Lenin, Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov, and American show biz heebs, he changed his name. How many of you go by pseudonyms? Mine is Max Powerful.
Jason Diaz
(((Lev Davidovich Bronstein))) every fucking time
Parker Watson
dirk diggler is my name of choice when im trying to subvert my host nation.
Elijah Perez
I am known as Rudi Haider or also as DER JENICHE
William Young
A former classmate of me was called Dirk Dick (Dick means Fat in german)
Angel Ross
Just another jew.
Samuel Sanders
kike
Eli Jones
>A guy that committed genocide as a general surely wouldn't commit more genocide if he became a dictator
Colton Robinson
lol awesome
Hunter Adams
interesting
Xavier Mitchell
very
Chase Adams
Trotsky was an internationalist kike. As far as commies go he’s one of the worst. White lefty cucks love him because they think if only he took over then Stalin wouldn’t have given communism a bad name
Nathaniel Hill
A perfect name for being bullied by german and english kids alike
He was too big of a Kike for even the early USSR, that's got to be an achievement
Brandon Morgan
He would have been worse than Stalin, with his "permanent revolution" supporting communist uprisings everywhere and even in the west.
Wyatt Peterson
Why is it an insult to have a fat dick?
Noah Peterson
ya thats pretty much the stuff Ive read have said. ITs also estimated Trotsky killed around 700,000 during the purge of people they thought were against the Bolsheviks.
Daniel Diaz
>Rammstein originated in the DDR
DDR's version of Communism ≠ Bolshevik Communism
Benjamin Wood
Oh wow, now the Jews are trying to push Leon Trotsky. LOL, this is the greatest timeline.
just having a discussion for some edumication you could even say im getting red pilled if you feel more comfortable with that type of lingo.
Jeremiah Hughes
it's all right there
Jace Richardson
He's a Marxist so no. I like his theories because they the most realistic path to Real Socialism™. Problem is that Real Socialism™ is a mirage. It isn't more (or less!) real than "real democracy".
The best way to think of socialism is and always was Eduard Bernstien's Evolutionary Socialism: "The ultimate aim of socialism is nothing, but the movement is everything"
ah, but the man himself was fucking awful He was the founder of the Red Army and the guy who invented and implemented "war communism" Still better than Stalin, but holy fuck
Daniel Davis
The aim of marxist-socialism was to kill off Europe's monarchs & royal families. From there, the Jews installed their Central Banks which now rule supreme.
Trotsky was even more insane than Joseph "Communism in one country" Stalin. Trotsky wanted to declare war on all non-communists and have never-ending purges as a matter of ideology.
Ryan Sanders
>Tfw even a gentile can run your shitty ideology better and cuck you out of it
Wish he would have led the USSR instead of Stalin. He was such a shit leader (lost a war to lmao Poland) they would have collapsed after a month of war with Germany.
Ethan Watson
assuming you may still have a tiny remnant of functional brainmatter in that glutenous blob of scrambled conspiracy theories in your head:
Socialism as understood by Bernstein and other socdems of his time was the extension of democracy into all spheres of life, most importantly the economical. This seems to be the dominant strand among millennial demsocs as well. The actual "end goal" of this process isn't too important. The point is to continuously improve society by redistributing power in a more democratic and egalitarian way.
Michael Russell
All the bullshit about Stalin being evil was also used to cover up for the shit Lenin and Trotsky did. The only good thing Stalin did besides killing communists was killing jewish communists who were far worse and more effective.
Never considered how history would have been different if he came to power, it mostly seems like he was fucked from the start as he was the less extremist of the two. Stalin was ruthless and basically exterminated anyone on his way to power. Aren't there a lot of parallels with the commies we see in the media today, basically a bunch of willfully naive extremists thinking they wouldn't get killed off in their imagined revoltion; where in all likelihood they'd be the first to get chewed and spit out by the more authoritarian inclined in their movement.
Gavin Brooks
The Bolshevik’s were a bunch of Zionists who simply used the ideology of Communism as a Trojan Horse so as to use Russia as a base to spread Zionism and use it’s people as slaves to achieve those ends. Every single leading figure in the movement was vehemently anti-Russian and Anti-Orthodox Christian, I wonder how much those homosexuals in the Vatican had hand in it??
Jaxson Lewis
They conquered Poland in like 7 days, I think you mean Finland
Kayden Cooper
This. Jesus, how do you lose a war against Poland, a country that literally did not even exist a decade prior and whose military consisted of some boy scouts with rifles.
Caleb Gonzalez
The Bolshevik revolution was financed by jewish bankers in the West driven by ethnic hatred
On that note, this is what passed for an elite squadron in ww2 USSR... fucking peasant women flying modified biplane crop dusters while Germany had goddamn JET PLANES (the first ever invented).
If the USA wasn't keeping them on life support, the USSR would have ceased to exist long ago. Thanks America.
Neither. He would have just as incompetent as the supreme soviet in running the union.
Jeremiah Walker
Wait 'til you find out the F35 is an overengineered piece of shit...
Daniel Lewis
Among all the kike commies, Trotsky is by far the worst. Insidious and hated even by commies. The inventor or the anti racism/white ideology. He, and Op, should have been drown in piss.
Josiah Brown
a reworded post with the addition of semite emotional rage. nothing new there. the arabic / semite mind loops itself since it's structure and extended culture is female-oriented by default.
>The actual "end goal" of this process isn't too important. The point is to continuously improve society by redistributing power my post still stands you may become angry all you like. your middle-eastern emotions have no real logical conclusion.
Ever heard of the YAK series? Canadians should be sterilized.
Justin Perry
can I get drowned in water please
Samuel Walker
>hero or villain commie kike
Isaiah Rodriguez
>If the USA didnt blah blah blah With these never-ending revisionist history British faggots. It was British-Americans who forced America into both World Wars. You lying, British faggot.
>The Yak-1 had a light tail, and it was easy to tip over and to hit the ground with the propeller. Often, technicians had to keep the tail down, which could lead to accidents, with aircraft taking off with technicians still on the rear fuselage. OH NO NO NO NO AHAHAHAHA
Camden Gray
>British-AMERICAN The eternal yankee
Liam Brown
Woodrow Wilson and FDR were British-Americans. Nice try.
