Orthodox, Catholic, or Protestant?

A smart leaf? You're absolutely correct.

Looks like Saint Nicholas cross

Based Leaf is SUPER BASED.

us leafs spend most of our time pretending to be retarded on this board, it's just funny to us. One on one with a leaf and you'll realize we're hyperlogical people. It's just simply more fun to act like leafs

I'll help you, but next time please avoid saying "christfags".
It's ICXC, it can't possibly be ICHC. It is common in the Greek Orthodox traditions. There are many like it, like XPTO and others. Either way, you have am Eastern Orthodox cross.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christogram#ICXC

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I thought you guys hanged out in the old /christian/ board.

anything in the west with this asthaetic?

For some reason when it comes to religion/esotericism I always come across based leafs.

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>Jesus didn't make exceptions!
>Jesus proceeds to whip merchants and insult samaritans

>it can't possibly be ICHC
I dunno what to tell you. Here's the pic. I looked it up and found this:

>The letters are indeed a Christogram, but after an irregular and archaic form, which renders it not as IC/XC but as HC/XC, to explain both are forms of the “ee” sound in Greek, both Hellenistic (Koine) and modern (Demotic), but not in the classical dialect (Attic) from which the letters took their present form, where H was ‘eh’. In other words, their coexistence is an atavism since antiquity - irregular spellings like these reflect an effort at standardization by replacing I's with H's, but this never caught on.

>christfag
Not meant as an insult. Standard nomenclature on Jow Forums is to give words the "fag" suffix. Means 'person of'/'person who does' X.

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can somebody explain why the st peter one is upside down? was he strung up like this?

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Pick the flavor of jew lies that tickles your fancy the most.

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We're deeply spiritual people, we just refuse to discuss it because we know that most conversations about religion devolve into ignorance and disagreement. Outside of the city, leafs are deeply in touch with the earth and god

Its a Greek Orthodox cross from the year 1000 to 1200

I've never seen a christogram like that before and I've seen a couple of odd ones. Very weird.

>Standard nomenclature on Jow Forums
I know how it goes, I've been here long enough. I just don't like it when people use it, that's all.

he wanted to be crucified upside down as he didn't think himself worthy enough to die exactly as jewsus did

>I've never seen a christogram like that before and I've seen a couple of odd ones.
It was from Fiji, if that means anything to you.

Top tier aesthetics actually.

he was crucified upside down. He didn't think he was worthy of being crucified like Christ. It is a symbol of humility

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Yer all jews.

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You cannot comprehend how much I'm laughing right now

He was crucified upside down by his own request. Felt he was not worthy to die in the same manner Christ died

Still better than a dogfucking leaf

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do you know why kikes are known as kikes?

Case they used to sign with a circle when they were registered by the American immigration authorities after they emigrated from Europe in the late 19th and early 20th century.

Oh wow, I'm sure being crucified would be a miserable experience, but being upside-down must be even worse. I feel bad for him.

I'm not a very religious person, I live life as a good person and believe that if god exists he'll be happy that I've genuinely been a good and honest person. I didn't mean to mock St Peter with my crude drawing, it's just how I immediately imagined it was in my mind upon seeing that upside-down cross.

well you're wrong nigger.

There's no evidence of this, and the account of his death being crucified upside down is from an apocryphal text.
Also, there is only one reference in the New Testament of Peter associating with a non jew, when he went to the house of the Roman Cornelius. The account of Peter traveling to Rome for any reason does not correlate with the Peter written about in the New Testament.
Just saying.

Odinism. It's based and non-degenerate as a default.
Now some Jew-LARPer will kvetch, and can fuck right off, because Christianity is a universalist religion. So even if everyone else on the planet is wrong, they'll still go to Jew heaven.

Time to move

Until you fags cut it out with the
>muh Jeebus said roll over and die like a dog when invaded
shit, nobody with a brain will follow you. Frankly, you should all just cut the entire old testament out and retcon Jesus into not being a kike. Yeah, sure, it's blatantly changing history, but at least once people forget that it happened they won't be sucking amputated cock for all time.

> I live life as a good person and believe that if god exists he'll be happy that I've genuinely been a good and honest person
There is no salvation outside of faith in Jesus Christ and his death and resurrection. Everyone is tainted by sin in God's sight and only in faith in Christ do you receive forgiveness.
"Good people" go to hell all the time.

The remains of St Peter are in Rome. You can go there and see for yourself. They've been tested too.

>There is no salvation outside of faith in Jesus Christ and his death and resurrection.
What about people that have never been in contact with the religion? Like islanders somewhere. Genuinely asking.

They worship false Gods and perform degenerate rituals. They don't get saved.

>the catholic church wouldn't lie to me
>putting your faith in the relics and ritual of a religion rather than in Christ
The only relic I would even entertain as being real is the shroud of Turin and even then if it was fake it wouldn't change my faith. Because your faith is what's important, not whether there's a piece of bone or sliver of wood in some cathedral vault.
I was only pointing out that the account of Peter being crucified upside down is in a book considered to be apocryphal by the church, so whether it's true or not it isn't really that important.

Read the end of the gospel of John. Jesus predicts that Peter will be crucified. Whether he was crucified upside down, we don't know for sure, but we know that he was crucified based on John.

I agree with you that faith is important, but historically speaking St Peter was in Rome, he governed from Rome, he passed down his title to another Pope in Rome, he was a martyr in Rome and his remains are still in Rome.

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none you jew worshiping faggot

Reminder to stick with kjv

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Bump

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pappaspost.com/greek-orthodox-churches-become-makeshift-shelters-for-refugees-on-lesvos/

voanews.com/a/orthodox-patriarch-refugees/3287495.html
> Patriarch Bartholomew, the spiritual leader of Orthodox Christians, is urging Europe to stop trying to divide what he calls economic migrants from asylum seekers.
> Bartholomew is scheduled to visit the Greek island of Lesbos on Saturday along with Pope Francis, and Athens Archbishop Ieronymos, the head of the Church of Greece, to raise awareness about the troubled state of refugees and migrants in Europe.
> The symbolic visit is intended to reiterate the Christian moral duty to show hospitality to strangers, Bartholomew said in an interview published Friday. He added that countries in Europe should find inspiration in the generosity shown by Lesbos residents.
> Illegal immigrants make 10 % of the population of Greece
daily reminder that the orthodox patriarchs are exactly the same shit , and they have repeatly condemned right wing movements like Golden Dawn
But why would it be otherwise?
Christianity rejects all wordly concerns altogether

Anti-Racism
orthodoxclergy.blogspot.com/2018/02/a-statement-concerning-sin-of-racism.html?m=1

>telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/8790457/Russian-Orthodox-Church-embroiled-in-corruption-scandal.html
>thenationalherald.com/184533/crisis-facing-greek-orthodoxy-america/
>theguardian.com/world/2005/feb/19/religion.uk
>telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/greece/1482856/Corruption-scandal-hits-the-Greek-Church.html

we should include "inclusive orthodoxy" into this list
inclusiveorthodoxy.yolasite.com/

Racism is forbidden in Orthodoxy.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phyletism

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Protestants say the silliest things some times.

Both the Shroud and the Sudarium have matching faces and matching blood samples. They're too old to extract DNA but good enough to know that the blood of Our Lord was AB+.

We have the bones of almost all the Apostles and most of the important figures like Saint Mary Magdalene. The only Apostle we're missing is St. John and there are some interesting traditions concerning this. The other major, major figure we're missing any relics of is of Our Blessed Mother, which lends credence to the Assumption that is dogmatically defined by the One Holy Apostolic Catholic Church and all the Orthodox traditions.

The Bible is very clear in that there is no other name by which we must be saved, except Jesus.

As human beings, this is harsh to us, but that is what God has clearly said. Be wary of preachers who try to sugar coat this message or lie about it or say that God will maybe give them a pass. We as Christians are only given a pass, even though we also deserve hell, based on faith and belief on Jesus to save us. It's Jesus's Christ's perfect righteousness that is imputed onto us that results in us being saved from hell. His righteousness is imputed onto us by grace through faith, not in anything we ourselves earn or do.

A wild based leaf appears

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BASED ORTHODOX JEW WORSHIPERS!

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That's why Christians are given the command to spread the Gospel, it's their responsibility to give the lost the choice to accept Christ or reject Him.
But yes, according to the Bible you aren't a sinner because you sinned. You're a sinner because you are born with sin, into a sinful world.
Without getting to deep into theological debates, basically there's a belief that ask people are born with a natural knowledge of God, with an inherent knowledge of right and wrong.
If it makes you feel any better, the Jews are subject to this as well. In fact, moreso. Because God gave them every advantage and they rejected Him, his prophets, and Christ. They don't get a free pass because they're Jews

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>only through the magic jew will salvation come to you!
How awfully convenient for you.

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James 2:24

If you want to suck Israel cock and have dead faith, (((Protestant))).

According to the Catholic church.
It isn't in the Bible, and therefore, not important one way or the other.

>it's their responsibility
Yes! The christian virtue signaling faggots that go into other lands forcing there jew religion onto foreign peoples. How fucking BASED AND NATIONALIST IS THAT!

Pro-Semitism in the New Testament

In the Gospels:
Matthew 1:1-17 and Luke 3:23-38 emphasize that Jesus was Jewish and a descendent of David.
Matthew 10:5-6 - Jesus instructs the disciples to take the Gospel to the Jews first, not the Gentiles.
Matthew 15:21-28 - Jesus tells a Gentile woman that he was sent to save the Jews first.
The Jews are far from being the only ones involved in Christ's persecution and crucifixion. Pilate let Jesus be crucified despite realizing his innocence (Mk 15:9-15) and the Roman soldiers mocked and persecuted Jesus, as well as doing the actual crucifying (Mt 27:27-31, Lk 23:11, 35-37).
John 4:22 - "Salvation is from the Jews" (i.e. from Jesus, David's descendant).

In Acts:
4:27 - Herod, Pilate and the Gentiles in Jerusalem (not just the Jews) conspired against Jesus.
11:1-18 - In the account of Peter and Cornelius, the Jews are amazed that God is merciful enough to save "even the (unclean) Gentiles."
14:1, 17:10-12 - Paul follows Jesus' model of going to the Jews first, and many Jews accept Jesus as the Messiah.

In the Pauline Epistles:
Romans 1:16 - Salvation is "first for the Jew, then for the Gentile".
Romans 9:1-5 - Paul (who is Jewish) describes his desire for the Israelites to receive Christ and the honors the Israelites have received, including that Jesus' human ancestry was through them.
Romans 11:1-24 - Paul warns the Gentiles against boasting, comparing them to wild olive branches and the Jews to cultivated olive branches.
Romans 11:28 - Even those Jews who reject Christ are to be "loved on account of the patriarchs."
Romans 15:27 - "For if the Gentiles have shared in the Jews' spiritual blessings, they owe it to the Jews to share with them their material blessings."
Galatians 2:7-9 - At least three of the apostles had a specific ministry to the Jews.
Galatians 2:11-13 - Rather than an anti-Semitic prejudice, the early church had if anything a pro-Semitic prejudice.

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The Bible didn't exist before the Catholic Church made it canonical.

Looks like a warlock.

there's like a 100 sects of christianity and have been even more heresies and interpretations throughout history. imagine actually believing that it's true and that you got the right one

The Catholic Church says that in those cases salvations depends on their obedience to the moral law to the best of their ability.

St. Paul says not to get caught up in strange and divers doctrines, and here we are, arguing about strange and divers doctrines, while many of us somehow believe in salvation through works as if any of us are good. Blessed are the poor in spirit.

Not this shit again. James is not a book on how to get saved. Almost every paragraph begins with "my brethren," meaning he is speaking to people who are already saved.

Not even most Catholic scholars believe that book teaches works salvation. They inevitably have to just say that it's their tradition that does, which is held up alongside scripture.

I told you yesterday. The Bible says almost 90 times in John, faith faith faith faith. Why would you throw all of that away based on one verse that says it's by works ? Did you even read Romans like I told you to? The entire book is about how salvation is by faith.

Protestantism is the best flavor of Christianity. Whatever criticisms you have of it, is also the greatest strength. There are mega churches, and there are "accepting" feminist and faggot churches, but it cannot be a defining characteristic due to the variability of protestantism. Take Baptists for example. Every church is autonomous, so you have everything from nigger churches to hard-core conservative traditionalists. Protestant is essentially a free market of ideas. It is self correcting since it can be forked.

In contrast, the orthodox and catholic faith is so structural that you can easily be mislead by a spic child fucking communist. And to defy that over your feels, by calling a patriarch or pope a heretic, you are in a minority and likely to be sent to hell. Catholicucks and orthocucks can't fork their shit. They're instead stuck to worshipping their idols, a figure head faggot, and simply dealing with child rape and all the other degeneracy.

I have always found it funny these fags want to criticize protestantism for what their ONE church is full of. Yet they have no recourse. They can only whine in a corner while Mexicans and other shitskins continue on with perverted mass. Meanwhile a protesbro can fork every time a church goes full faggot. We aren't a monolith, and while that is a valid point of critique, it's also a strength.

Read primary sources to understand the world-view of the primary sources.

You need both works and faith. That's what the Bible teaches. If you see a poor in need, won't you help him? Won't God see your good act and be happy?

Tradition is a valid source of history, especially when said tradition is kept by people who are bound not to bare false witness. I mean, Pericles wasn't in the Bible, how do you know he was real? I'll never understand why protestants feel so comfortable calling other Christians liars.

The Catholic Church didn't write the Epistles. Paul, John the Evangelist, et al wrote the Epistles. Any world-view incompatible with the Epistles can't rightly be called Christianity.

>my specific heresy of a heresy of a DLC pack to a kike religion that worships an ancient cloven-footed demon is the best flavor DLC to ancient kike religion!
>I know this because it has a lot of people who also believe it!
I can't even imagine being as fucking stupid as you. Plenty of niggers think Ebola isn't real and that eating the hearts of their enemies will make their dicks hard, so I guess you believe that too? Remember, Jesus doesn't see race goy.

Only one of those three is even Christian. Roman Papists are just heretics because they left the christian church and line of succession of St. Peter in 1054. Protestantism is basically a bunch of made-up shit that is little more than Jesus-flavored Paganism.

Paul is the figurehead of the gentile church, even by his own account.
The twelve apostles never went to the gentiles and according to the new testament they only ministered to the Jewish Christians, mostly in Jerusalem.
What we know as the gospel was brought to us by Paul, and if you read the letters and accounts of the apostles like Peter, they do not preach the gospel, they preach Jesus the messiah.
Catholics may differ on this and put their faith in saints, but there's absolutely no command to do this in the Bible.

Absolutely based and redpilled

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>You need both works and faith
Not for salvation.
Faith+nothing

>kike religion
Fuck off, faggot. If you don't accept Christ as our lord and savior, you don't even have a valid place in this discussion.

>Not even most Catholic scholars believe that book teaches works salvation.

Sola Fide is a belief that was born form crypto jews in the 16th century. Before then everyone believed in both faith and works.

>Give studious attention to the prophetic writings, and they will lead you on a clearer path to escape the eternal punishments and to obtain the eternal good things of God. He who gave the mouth for speech and formed the ears for hearing and made eyes for seeing will examine everything and will judge justly, granting recompense to each according to merit. To those who seek immortality by the patient exercise of good works, he will give everlasting life, joy, peace, rest, and all good things, which neither has eye seen nor ear heard, nor has it entered into the heart of man. For the unbelievers and for the contemptuous, and for those who do not submit to the truth but assent to iniquity, when they have been involved in adulteries and fornications and homosexuality and avarice and in lawless idolatries, there will be wrath and indignation, tribulation and anguish, and in the end such men as these will be detained in everlasting fire
(Clement of Alexandria -To Autolycas 1:14 [ca. A.D. 181]).

>When we hear, 'Your faith has saved you,' we do not understand the Lord to say simply that they will be saved who have believed in whatever manner, even if works have not followed. To begin with, it was to the Jews alone that he spoke this phrase, who had lived in accord with the law and blamelessly and who had lacked only faith in the Lord
(Hippolytus -Stromata 6:14 [post A.D. 202]).

>And again, it is said, the Savior has declared, "Not every-one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven, but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven." And it is necessary that they who perform this (will), not hear it merely, should enter into the kingdom of heaven
(Origen - Refutation of All Heresies 5:2 [A.D. 225]).

> You need both works and faith.
Only faith to be saved, though.
> If you see a poor in need, won't you help him?
I hope so, but St. Paul struggled with sin, only Jesus was impeccable
> Won't God see your good act and be happy?
Surely He will, and Jesus said those who don't do good things, or don't teach others to do good things, will be counted least in Heaven, and St. Paul urges us to lay up treasures in Heaven, and Jesus says people who pray in public have their reward on Earth but people who pray in secret are rewarded in Heaven.

Why the fuck did you shop out parts of the eastern orthodox cross?

>Protestantism is the best flavor of Christianity. Whatever criticisms you have of it, is also the greatest strength
I'm not sure how anyone could believe this. Prots have been the fastest declining Christian demographic since the 60's. Catholicism has overtaken Protestantism in the country where prots originate from. There's no future in it.

This was literally what the Pharisees told Jesus when he didn't accept their teachings.

Please, tell me exactly what part of my post was factually incorrect? Your KIKE religion was written by KIKES for KIKES to spread to GOYIM like yourself to suppress them. You stupid subhuman motherfuckers are the exact reason why the west is falling.