Or is that the result of people's nostalgia? Contrarians like to point out that certain social indicators (at least for the US) were actually worse in the 80's, like the murder rate, life expectancy, and so on. But do those things matter if people have hope? 80's songs would sound out of place if released today, because the mood seems wrong for the present time. A song like this sounds like it was written for a more hopeful society in general:
>Was that the case? WERE people genuinely more hopeful back then?
Nope. Everybody was damn sure the world was going to end in nuclear fire with the communists. And so they all acted accordingly - like nothing mattered because they didn't have to concern themselves with the long-term.
Samuel Price
people were happier. hope has nothing to do with it.
Henry Anderson
People were hopeful because life was so shit and they were going mad, like in third world countries. Life now is comfy and easy but depressing since we can't imagine it getting better, only worse. Huge baby boom youth population in the 80s also helped, whereas now the average age is 50 apart from browns and blacks.
Gavin Robinson
All of the optimism was actually about fucking (raping), doing drugs and murder if you actually pay attention
God, the world after 9/11 sucks. I hate that my formative experience going into adulthood was thousands being killed on live television and nothing ever getting better.
Boomer's and Gen X got the better deal in this regard.
Ryan Hall
Pre internet pre 9/11 was great.
Even worse to consider, is that you people are going to look back on right now as the good old days.
If you didn't join the emo/metal hype in your teenage years in the 2000s and just played runescape and WOW instead, you deserve to feel left out. Zoomers have it bad but Millenials had no excuse
Luis Rogers
No >Significantly more crime, peaking in the 90s >Fear of global nuclear war >Further deindustrialization of America, all manufacturing becomes outsourced
Ethan Lee
Nobody here was even alive, it's just dumbass memelenialls who only witnessed it through the lens of pop culture.
Asher Brooks
If emo/metal music affected you more than 9/11 chances are you were basically a proto-zoomer. I remember even in school the mood among the kids changed. We all knew something had happened, and that there was no going back.
Oliver Butler
That's when the Jews let Americans build things. Now they deindustrialized everything.
Nicholas Garcia
I forget the model year I owned an 80s-era Camaro Berlinetta. Kind of a stealth, luxury Camaro. It felt damn comfy at the time and had lots of weird gadgets that I never used. That said, I'll take my Evo X any day. This is now a car thread BTW.
Cooper Morales
People had more money then and all this 'happiness' is an example of 80s greed and excess. You posted a pic of an advertisement user that shows it just about right.
Tldr; people seemed happier due to having money and rampant materialism.
This, I mean the 80s had problems but to an extent some people thought that things might hopefully correct themselves after the shitshow of the 60s and 70s. It's not that people were happy and optimistic, they just weren't completely demoralized and broken.
Caleb White
Party like it's 1999 summed it up.
Anthony Gray
Since it's obvious that no one responding actually lived in the 80's...a littler advice: Don't believe the media. They were just as bad then as now. No one I knew lived their day to day lives worried about nuclear annihilation including me and I spent most of the 80's as a nuc electrician on a boomer boat. The music was good and SO differently themed than the shit put out now. It was "good time rock and roll". The dollar had more value. Race relations were better. Radical feminism was still in the closet and mostly open to scourn. Faggots were definitely still closeted and shamed by a majority. And, by the way, I owned 3 of those IROCs in the 80's. Let the trolling begin.
Sebastian Cruz
The 1980s were full of Optimism, white people were seen in almost all the TV shows, movies, mainstream culture. Also, any blacks shown in the media were usually blacks trying to fit into white culture (Cosby Show, Steve Urkel, Whitney Houston...), as opposed to now where the role of Black Entertainment is to undermine white culture and be a permanent opposition to whites.
No. He just called USSR's bluff. We were better and they knew it. His military buildup drove them into collapse. He knew they would never start a war they couldn't win.
