Last year I voted for the Trump meme, largely for the luls and because I didn't think there was any hope anyway.
I feel ridiculous now because I am seeing that Bernie Sander's actually has a decent plan for most of his policies. The gun control and Climate stuff I am not sure about, but I think his plan's for those things are at least reasonable.
What do you guys honestly think?
Voting Bernie if he wins democrat vote for sure. Trump we already saw what he is won’t change anything if he gets another 4 years
>The gun control and Climate stuff I am not sure about, but I think his plan's for those things are at least reasonable.
"Take all the guns except a few hunting rifles, sacrifice all for climate"
Be honest, you came here thinking those were the issues Jow Forums focuses on the most and tried to relate to us. Hope they pay you better than shareblue.
>Gee how ya gonna pay for that Bernie
>Uhhhhhhh tax Wall Street
He's a jew who's in the game for a long time. A part of the whole charade and controlled opposition. That's all you need to know, so don't buy into the shit.
This primarily goes for the Anons reading this thread and post. Chances are you're a shill or highly deluded.
Love it how you are sneaking in the meme about Trump voters turning away from Trump. You are on a solid troll level, Sharia Blue is investing good shekels into you.
Redditors dont get paid and at all and are unemployed. They turn to nonprofit political activism so they have something to do
So how hot was it in Minsk today, Sergei?
I think you are an absolute retard
fuck Bernie. yang gang all the way.
The dems are going to screw Bernie over again
Taxing corporations and the wealthy is a viable strategy to fund most of Sanders' proposals. The only reason you're opposed to it is because you've been conditioned by the media (read: indoctrinated) into thinking that taking money from parasitical exploiters is somehow bad or immoral.
Yes Russia is trying to stop what would be the most isolationist president since Harding. you sure showed me.
BURNIE 2020
FUCK:
TRUMP
KAVANAUGH
KOCH
CLINTON
MCCONNEL
GOP
DNC
MORALFAGS
CHRISTFAGS
REALPOLITIK
BOOMERS
YES:
UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE
GLOBALIZM
AUTOMATION
UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME
FUNS
WEED
God save America.
Yang is a crybaby faggot cuck.
voting TRUMP because i love the madness. i also love seeing normies AND Jow Forums bitch and cry everyday
>he's a jew
Being a Nazi is the laziest political stance in the world. Just point out your enemies are Jews or, if they aren't Jewish, accuse them of being funded by Jews. Requires absolutely no analysis or critical thinking skills.
>last year
He's delusional.
if you voted for trump and are now considering voting for bernie it shows that you dont give a fuck about policies, and are voting 100% on emotional draw to personalities. Complete flip flop on your moral values to go from one extreme to the other
Bernie is such a lying faget, lmao
"They" run government
>has been a senator for 30 years
>while democrats hekd office and super majority
>did absolutely nothing about any of his supposed big issues
He's a faget
They're all fagets
>climate change
user... I
You must be a Jew.
>I feel ridiculous now because I am seeing that Bernie Sander's actually has a decent plan for most of his policies.
Every fucking politician has a decent plan for there policies, so they say. But they don't put it in action. You're putting confidence into someone that will always disappoint you in the long run. And will never reach your levels of expectation.
Bernie is a coward who gave his time to Hillary. Fuck that old dude.
Hahahaha
After he laid down and let Hillary rig him out of the nomination in ‘16? Lol
Bernie is jewish, stupid, and spineless.
He can't lead. He shouldn't be made into a leader.
His plan, whatever it is, has no chance of even being implemented (luckily).
Vote for Marianne 2020!
He's a lying faggot just like all the demon rats.
> Bernie Sander's actually has a decent plan for most of his policies.
You mean the rich guy that lectures working class White people on how they "don't understand poverty" despite making up the majority of US poor and him being a rich person and thus even more far removed from poverty than the "ignorant Whites" ???
The guys a fucking clown, and you're a clown for voting for him.
Also the 1 post by this ID's people need to get off Jow Forums if there not gonna participate in there own thread.
It's a valid stance to take in 99% of cases when it comes to politically prominent figures, but you know that, as we both know that you're a shill trying to discredit this stance.
Some facts on Bernie:
>Born to a family of Jewish russian, polish and hungarian migrants
>Was an active socialist campaigner and activist during the 50's an 60's, among those notable being "Civil Rights Movement", "Congress of Racial Equality" and "Young People's Socialist League"
>One of his notable quotes from youth and days of activism: "A guy named Adolf Hitler won an election in 1932. He won an election, and 50 million people died as a result of that election in World War II, including 6 million Jews. So what I learned as a little kid is that politics is, in fact, very important"
He's an archetype of all things rotten pertaining to the judaistic modus operandi
Oh yeah because Trump got us into more wars eh?
1 post by this ID
Calling out Jewish influence in American politics is not a “nazi political stance”
But you shills are working pretty hard.
Honestly, he'd be cool if it wasn't for being an anti white cuck and gun grabbing Jew.
Bernie sucks nigger dicks and is infected with ebola.
>fuck christfags
>God bless America
What did he mean by this?
I'm using a fucking communist flag so I don't see why you think I would find any of those things incriminating.
YANG GANG
>taxing corporations and the wealthy
Why should any White person care about increasing tax revenue? They won't see a fucking penny of it. That money will go straight into the pockets of rich socialists and their vanity project of destroying the USA and creating an America spanning superstate that will just somehow "magically" work.
He's using fucking Nazi flag, you retard. Am I not allowed to assume people using Nazi flags are Nazis anymore?
Taking them out and shooting them in the street in a violent upheaval is a sole viable strategy. Democratic means of uprooting such power are a diversion and delusion for the gullible mass and useful fools like yourself.
#1 and #2 are literally the two most important issues
don't compromise on those
>because I didn't think there was any hope anyway.
You should never vote again, until you have some sort of hope inside you.
Otherwise you will fall for shitty gimmicks like Bernie, and Yang.
Because you're retarded.
You're using a commucuck larp flag because you're a faggot.
This. Bernie is a rotten kike to the core. It’s amazing that his followers think he’s some kind of revolutionary outsider.
Bernie can't fight the news so the news agendas is what happens
Is this how you faggots try to influence Jow Forums? Like, do you see how gay your entire post is. Here, let me break it down for you:
>Last year I voted for the Trump meme, largely for the luls and because I didn't think there was any hope anyway.
This is you trying to pretend you are one of us. You see us as an epic chaos element that does things with no rhyme or reason. You cannot see that there is a method to the madness because you, as a leftist shill, do not have any pattern-recognition skills. If you did, you wouldn't be a leftist.
>I feel ridiculous now because I am seeing that Bernie Sander's actually has a decent plan for most of his policies.
Now that you have established yourself as one of us, you are now trying to plant an ideological seed. You must have been given the wrong manual for shilling on Jow Forums because this is not how we talk. This sort of "faux-reasonable" effeminate language belongs on places like Reddit and Twitter.
>The gun control and Climate stuff I am not sure about, but I think his plan's for those things are at least reasonable.
This is you trying to paint an image as a Jow Forums viewer transitioning to something that your masters find easier to control. Ah yes, the gun control and climate stuff I am not convinced of but his plan and policies are pretty ok, right guys? You want to get your foot in the door so you can peddle more of your garbage.
>What do you guys honestly think?
We think you're a faggot. This image will derail your thread.
>Yang Gayng
ftfy
Imagine still thinking this is real when it was proven a hoax in like, 1920.
The average white American goes to the doctor and uses infrastructure, so they absolutely would see results from increased tax revenue going toward those things.
I think you should fuck off with your ROLCON-esque bernout shit.
>>he's a jew
>Being a Nazi is the laziest political stance in the world. Just point out your enemies are Jews
You have absolutely no clue about National Socialism.
> Requires absolutely no analysis or critical thinking skills.
As opposed to what? Karl Marx?
>pic related
Then why do you find it incriminating to point out he is a jew? Jew's are in great synergy and symbiosis with such stances and attitudes, because at the end of the day they are convenient tools to transfer the wealth into their hands, at the end of the day.
>He's using fucking Nazi flag, you retard. Am
So because of your commie flag I can assume you are a dick sucking beta tranny faggot commie?
Liberals and shareblue shills such as yourself are...
Cucks..
>also
Bernie is a such a dumb ass lazy nigger jew that he got kicked out of a commune for being lazy..
You are so angry that you can't even have a reasonable conversation about politics about someone without imagining yourself shooting them in the head. Seek help, friend.
>Last year I voted for the Trump meme
You were voting for Trump in 2018?
Very good analysis. Also, never fail to notice the proverbial
>1 post by this ID
A man in the 1800's had antisemitic opinions? Stop the fucking presses.
I don't find it incriminating, I just said it was a lazy tactic. Maybe if you read my post instead of fantasizing about shooting me in the head in a violent upheaval you would realize that.
Wierd... I don't remember any presedential election last year...
Stop lying leftist. No one goes from Trump to Bernie, no one.
One thing I don't understand about Communists is that they love to talk about how the Super Rich are all-powerful and are the source of our worries due to their parasitic nature. But your solution is to seize all wealth and assets and redistribute it to "the people".
Do you really think the sociopaths who crave power are not going to worm their way into this process and screw everyone over? We're going to centralize everything so... it's.... easier for shitters to have more power over us....???
I don't think you guys have a very good grasp of human behavior.
Also, I know a lot about National Socialism because, unlike you, I read about things I disagree with instead of just frothing at the mouth projecting my own vile desires on to them.
That you need to understand that Reasonable isn't something you'll ever, not ever, find in a leftist.
I honestly think you're a desperate larping faggot who is getting paid too much just because an old Jew doesn’t know how social media works
Every Marxist has pointed out the need to repress the bourgeois from participating in the dictatorship of the proletariat. I don't know why you think this is something we haven't considered.
How to spot a shill 101:
>calls people idiots rather than niggers
>long winded posts that have no substance
>memeflag
Bernie sucks nigger dicks, move on
In fact, in the State and Revolution, Lenin's whole argument is that the primary purpose of the workers' state is to prevent the bourgeoisie from seizing power again.
So you supplant one ruling class for another. Are you so certain that this new ruling class is not going to to succumb to corruption and tyranny, especially now that they have just received a dramatic increase in power? Especially considering they have more power than their predecessors?
>The average white American goes to the doctor and uses infrastructure, so they absolutely would see results from increased tax revenue going toward those things.
The US already has enough money for these things. Cut spending in nonsense like third world development, money for Israel and absolutely every single pointless left wing post-modernist university campus and you'll have more money for infrastructure and medical shit.
Mass deportations, shrinking immigration and having stricter welfare requirements for irresponsible breeders will also decrease demand in the long run.
The truth is that taxing the rich will only put money back into the pockets of rich leftists as they give themselves more bonuses and squander money into dumb vanity projects.
Taxation should be as low as possible and should cover the most basic and important shit. Health care is a strange one because while it is important, it's hardly realistic to expect the government to provide immortality to every single person that comes into the USA. Medicine is just not there yet and it will likely be the private sector that makes the key breakthroughs. Emptying the pockets of the rich gives them less money to sink into potentially dead end projects on the road to technological and medical progress.
>What do you guys honestly think?
I think you shills and your coordinated posting need to fuck off. Bernie Sanders is a commie Jew, and his 'plan' is an unworkable disaster at best and a deliberate scheme to fuck us over at worst. Your scripts might work on normies on social media, but we can see right through, especially when you just keep using the same scripts over and over again.
Every Democrat running for president is an evil rat bastard looking to fuck over whites and America, and the Republicans are the Diet Coke version of the Democrats. Fuck off. We're not voting for Bernie, we're not voting for Yang, and we're not voting for any of your other commie shitfests. We memed Trump into the White House BECAUSE WE'RE SICK OF YOUR SHIT.
TL;DR: get a life, shill. Your 0.02 shekels per post isn't worth the effort.
>Are you so certain
Absolutely not. The bureaucratization of the workers' state and the possibility of it becoming divorced from the masses and politically repressing them is something many Marxists have theorized about, most notably Trotsky and various leftcoms. Their proposed solutions differ but they all agree that it is a serious possibility.
So you are saying that his opinions were invalid?
So you're a revisionist?
> I know a lot about National Socialism because, unlike you,
You literally just said that being a Nazi was just about blaming Jews for things, lol, you've not studied the subject at all. Hitler goes into extreme detail explaining the problems of his era and why the party had to be revolutionary and not just reactionary.
Like all communists, you're a fucking uneducated imbecile.
Ironically, orthodox Marxism has much more in common with National Socialism and right wing thought than revisionist Marxism. What makes this even more funny is that whenever the revisionists fuck things up they say "well, it wasn't real communism", not realising that real communism was only for a very select type of person usually from very specific White nations.
You drastically overestimate how much money is spent on foreign aid. It would not, in fact, be enough to fund single-payer healthcare or infrastructure. It wouldn't even come close.
The only areas of the budget you could cut that could feasibly pay for those things are Social Security and Defense. Could luck getting anyone on board with those tax cuts.
History has shown that the process you so deeply crave to implement will create a far more powerful and, most importantly, far more tyrannical ruling class.
My parents left our Home Country because of this. You give me honeyed words, but I will let actions and results speak the truth for me.
Pic related.
Thanks that's all the approval I need. I can't handle arguing with this shit storm.
One person capable of noticing that error in the whole thread, but really I wish more people did catch it. Too many people triggered instead of analyzing and considering.
I will still keep lurking on Jow Forums and following actual politics in other places too.
>Trump can't get 10 billion or so for a border wall
>Bernie will get free college, free healthcare, AND go green
okay
lol you really believe that lmfao
I honestly think you're retarded
He's literally a "jew".. I'm guessing this somehow didn't cross your mind like.. ever?
Way to expose yourself as a shill even more. You set your post up as if you are a regular 4channer but talk in a manner that indicates you are not used to this sort of behavior.
You're a faggot.
op on his way to tel aviv to shill for two shekels an hour
Honestly dude, one thing I have learned here is that if you have actual arguments and can debate something, you will find smart people that will debate back. Especially before the board got flooded from 2016 election. Not so much anymore, but you can find it. You just have to ignore ad hominem and "haha ur a fag" type of posts, and only respond to quality posts. There are a lot of lurkers, and they will see and make their own decision. Not everyone falls for memes
Revisionism != disagreeing with anything Marx ever said about anything. His antisemitism was not a major component of his theories. Nothing is lost by tossing it out.
>You literally just said that being a Nazi was just about blaming Jews for things, lol, you've not studied the subject at all. Hitler goes into extreme detail explaining the problems of his era and why the party had to be revolutionary and not just reactionary.
The entire premise of Nazism is that Jews were the enemy of Germany. This was reiterated by Hitler and Goebbels repeatedly, you're delusional if you think I'm going to believe it wasn't.
>Ironically, orthodox Marxism has much more in common with National Socialism and right wing thought than revisionist Marxism.
No, it doesn't. Marxism is internationalist and materialist, Nazism is nationalist and idealist. They have virtually nothing in common, the Nazis just stole certain socialist rhetoric and imagery.
I think Bernie is a fucking nigger and I would rather vote for an actual lobotomized nigger than that fucking kike.
free everything the rich will pay for it
Get off the pot man I know life hurts but reality is worth more then selling out
I haven’t kept up with him for a while but didn’t he say he wanted to model a system of health care by the VA system?
The same system he oversaw underneath the 2016 VA scandal? People dying waiting to see a doctor, suicide hotline being down for weeks, people literally lighting themselves on fire outside VA hospitals?
He protected those who received higher bonuses from forging medical documents while veterans died waiting to receive health care. Ignored veteran groups that approached the VA committee about this, and only acted because a whistle blower exposed this.
Even pillow biter Anderson Cooper tore him a new asshole over this.
I'm just more of a lurker.
Whoever win's it seems like it's always the one the Jew's wanted anyway. It's more of a Jew delusion for many people. Historical I cannot deny the problem. I will vote for the one who has the best plan prepared for my country, instead of one who can make a good sound clip in a 45 second statement on CNN
>Last year I voted for the Trump meme, largely for the luls and because I didn't think there was any hope anyway.
Sure asshole
>Voting Bernie if he wins democrat vote for sure
Bernie won't be able to change anything even if he tries his hardest
>Trump we already saw what he is won’t change anything if he gets another 4 years
This
You aren't wrong. But he has good points
no, you're a shill.
Oh please, do enlighten us. How does National Socialism differ from communism, and how is it similar? Explain the basic principles of National Socialism for us. For that matter, please explain the difference between National Socialism and Fascism.
I'll wait while you desperately search Wikipedia and ask your handler what part of the manual covers 'oh shit, they called my bluff'.
Last year? Trump has been president for longer than a year. Is this a bot or a brainlet? Either way Bernie bot unless sanders divests himself from his wealth than he is a liar and a hypocrite. He is nothing more than a useful idiot believing he will have a spot in the inner party for his treason rather than a spot in the mass graves that follow all of his political dogma throughout history. When they take over they kill all the people who put them in power so they can not threaten their power. Happens every time.
I watched that on TV. Great show, but there was just that one episode.
>Every Marxist has pointed out the need to repress the bourgeois from participating in the dictatorship of the proletariat.
> Lenin
Lenin, like Marx, wasn't working class. He literally descended from nobility and rich people. This is a consistent theme I notice with you "revolutionary leaders of the proletariat". You are invariably rich kids whining about other rich kids. This is why thinking people can't take you seriously.
If you care so much about the working class, why don't you learn to shut your fucking face and let them speak for themselves?
>Vote for the literal Jew, goyim