Explain in simple terms how a Communist economy works, please no copy/pasting any bullshit or using buzzwords...

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Nationalize everything, fail, do it again because it wasn't "real communism"

>Everyone gives (i.e. works) according to their ability and takes according to their need.

So does that mean that the biggest, strongest men would be expected to work the hardest jobs for the longest hours? and the weaker, smaller people would work less? Would there be any incentive to become bigger and stronger, knowing that it would mean you would be made to work longer hours doing harder jobs?

I think the idea is that the "people" or more accurately, the government, controls everything- they tell people what they are to produce.

The factory must make 1000 screws, the baker must bake 10 loafs, and the janitor must clean that.

Can some soviet union people tell us how it worked? Even if that's not real muh communism, it gives insight into how it practically works out.

Everybody gets coupons to get their stuff- housing, bread, screws.

If you speak out or don't fulfill your quota you get your shit pushed in.

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You just ran into a core problem. This happened a lot in the USSR (a socialist state trying to bring about a communist society). People who could do better didn’t bother because all that would happen is they’d get a meaningless pat on the back and then everybody would be expected to keep up the same standard. Of course, just having this idea, and worrying about if being strong means you have to carry big rocks is counter-revolutionary thought. So, it’s offer to “reeducation” or the gulag. The theory went that after a few generations of this, people wouldn’t have such thoughts anymore and a communist society could be achieved.

>From what I understand the idea behind Communism is that the workers own the means of production, right?
In every communist state I know, the government takes full control of the means of production.

You just described a socialist state. Not a communist society. They’re different. That and no socialist state run by a communist party every managed to make the transition. Such a transition is probably impossible anyway.

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There’s no such thing as a “communist state”. By definition a communist society is stateless. What you’re describing is a socialist state. A lot of the famous one’s were run by communist parties.

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This is the core problem between theory and practice. IN THEORY, people would contribute as much as they were capable and willing of, since its in human nature to work, and the party would replace the state/religion/ethnicity as a higher goal towards to strive for.

In reality, it was such an abyssimal failure to motivate the smart and the strong to work just as hard for the wage of a lazy faggot that soviets entered into an entire century of denying any inherent differences between people, and that just exasperated the problem.

Well? What's the picture from?

Communism isn't barter and doesn't use a market system. The state, the local municipality, or the individual commune determines democratically how to allocate the surplus product of labor (i.e. that which goes beyond what the individual workers need to sustain themselves).

Check out Rojava for a currently functioning example of stateless, democratic, libertarian socialism.

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>What you’re describing is a socialist state. A lot of the famous one’s were run by communist parties.

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Interesting, so they were planning to recondition people until they had an obedient working class?

What's odd is that the people in our society today who are most vocal in support of Communism also seem to be the types of people who are most interested in personal expression, it's usually the types who are interested in art, music, creative pursuits, piercings, tattoos, colored hair, unusual fashion, veganism, sexual liberty (homosexual, feminism, transexuals), so on and so forth.

These types of people don't seem particularly "useful" in a Communist system, so how do they actually play a part, or integrate into such a system where it sounds like people would need to at the very least "pull their own weight" ?

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>From what I understand the idea behind Communism is that the workers own the means of production, right?
Historically it depended from country to country. as an employee you'd get payed like you would in non communist/socialist societies only the money spent would go back to the State instead of people owning the means of production. Some communist states would issue tokens instead of currency that essentially worked the same as regular currency, with the added benefit of additional gov supervision. In any case bartering was strictly discouraged as it allowed hoarding and speculation, the very thing that caused many a problem in capitalist societies.

What the State did with the money they'd made from selling goods and services varied but most communist states would have two groups of expenditures with group 1 being State expenditures, military and investment into production inputs, while group 2 would be consumer goods and such. The ultimate goal would be to narrow the gap between the two groups, though many communist states failed to do so. It's why communist countries often had world class universities, hospitals that could perform cutting edge medical surgeries, huge military, etc. yet often lacked basic goods such as coffee, tobacco, clothes of certain sizes, and such.

As for people who were incapable of work they would be provided for by the State, though the quality of public care was often dubious. On the other hand, people who spent at least some time working would often be taken care for life, as well as their working comrades, on the count of labor laws, worker rights, etc. One demographic in particular that benefited from communist style labor laws were young women intending to have kids, since the employers didn't care if their female employee would take 52 weeks maternity leave and the State would often give extra benefits for mothers of 3+ kids.

Everyone that is able bodied helps in the best way they can, building or growing something. when theyre finished they share all the surplus with everyone else.

Nobody has to pay taxes, because there's nothing to buy, and all the corporations exist overseas and dont deal with your loser country.

It's great. Except for the the majority of citizens, who all seem to have a disability for some reason, and constantly tell people how they cant contribute to the greater good, but they're still happy to share other's surplus.

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Which word confused you? USSR, Czechoslovakia, Poland, Hungary, Bulgaria, Romania, Cambodia, Vietnam, China, Cuba, and Yugoslavia all were/are socialist states run by communist parties. The whole idea central to communist thought of any stripe is that some weird shit will happen some time and then the socialist state will fade away and give rise to a worker’s paradise that is stateless, classless, and moneyless. This has obviously never fucking happened though it doesn’t keep some wackadoos from trying.

Take resources and production from competent producers or anyone deemed "privileged" or a "kulak"
Blame shortages and shit breaking on bourgeois
Starve to death.

from what i understand communism is a quite idealistic approach and rather theoretical than practical

the question i believe isnt if communism works or not but more like if ideas from cummunism can be used to benefit a scociety

and ot be honest, in small overseeable groups or villages it might work quite well although im quite certain its not feasible at all for anything big enough where people are getting "disconnected" emotionally.

>inb4 i have no idea about that stuff. absolutely not my field. just typing out my current thoughts

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>guys it wasn't real communism okay

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If by "works" you mean systematically disposing of a large portion of the country's population whilst spreading the blame so thin it's almost faultless, then Communism "works" exactly as it is written.

A working system generally means sustainability and advancement of the species, but isn't limited to just positive things. Be creative!

In theory, they would be the "Useful idiots" of any communist revolution. An element semi-controlled to destroy the old order and liquidated as the new one is established.
In practice however, a surprising number of degenerates form up the new elite once a revolution happens if chance forbids. People of weak will and vice are hellova more easily controlled and corraled by a psychopathic leader than simple ideologues are, and having some basedboy as your military leader guarantees that, while the force might not be as effective when led by a true soldier, its more loyal than any regular soldier.

Its just medieval nepotism politics upgraded with embarrasment instead of blood ties.

Yes, but maybe no. It depends on if you believe the bullshit the leaders say/said. According to Marxist theory counter-revolutionary thought are often describe as “bourgeois”. The theory goes that bourgeois thought is harmful to workers. Therefore, it’s not so much making an obedient working class, but liberating them and putting them in control. This was referred to as “the dictatorship of the proletariat” (though this would be during the socialist phase). However, Lenin, who expanded on Marxism and wrote a shitload about it also had a former palace as his Dacha. So, did he really believe this shit or was it just a good way to get a palace? Fuck knows.

There were kibbutzim, which were pretty close to the ideal socialist egalitarian system. They were an economical failure which existed only because of subsidies from the Israel state.
They were great example of all the leftist ideas, promoted up to this day, and why they failed. Socialist economy didn’t work there, kids grown up in gender-neutral society, where they didn’t have any gender role models and didn’t even have real parents as the kids belonged to the whole society grown up to live to the traditional gender roles

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Fucking moron. Leftist and Rightist shitheads like you who don’t know what the fuck they’re talking about say this all the time. Communism has never been achieved. Ever. What most leftist dickheads this is that the authoritarian methods used by communist parties in socialists states were somehow “anti-communist”. Bullshit. The whole fucking philosophy requires violence and suppression. Most rightist shitheads can’t even tell you what the Sino-Soviet split was so they think this is some sort of sick burn.

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Take until you can't take anymore then kill all of the unnecessary people. Over 100 million have died to communism, and only the dumbest support it as the conservatives profit off your stupidity.

The low class who fights for communism will be killed when society does not need them anymore. Which is why Antifa is full of the "unnecessary" aspect.

Druggies, crippled, and ultra violent will be persecuted by true fascism once they destroy liberty. Communists do not believe in liberty. Look at Hong Kong for a concurrent example.

China wants to absorb the capitalist market of Hong Kong to save their dying economy. They will destroy liberty by doing so.

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Simple version of communist THEORY:
The goverment takes away everyones stuff. As the goverment owns everything, everything now theoretically belongs to the people. Everyone just works but get what they need from the goverment. And they get more stuff because there is no rich guy (tm) in between who earns profits by asking prices higher than the production cost.

IN REALITY:
The goverment takes everyones stuff and devides it beween high goverment officials, while enslaving the people.
The high Ranking officials life like kings while the the rest gets what the new kings think they need ( so barely enough to eat, clothing and keeping you strong enough to work for your new slaveowner)

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I’ve often thought about this. Same with some hippie communes. But you still have money, rank (class), and the state to deal with. Similar things go for certain tribal cultures. I don’t think they’re analogous for what Marxism/Leninism/Juche/Maoism is all about.

>create 5 loaves of bread
>give 5 loaves of bread to the state
>the state would determine you need 2 to feed youself and your family
>the other 3 are distributed as needed to other comrades
Of course, this falls apart in a million ways, but thats sorta the premise.
In retrospect, its odd how a ‘state-mandated subsistence-level existence’ ever gained traction. Sell smartly to the stupid, i guess.

A central power brings everything under its control. Owing to the fact that people are corrupt by nature, they take advantage of the centralization. A small aristocracy of people embittered by the past is formed and they immediately treat the producers in society like shit. Then productivity dies. The only ones eating healthy are the government officials and the army which becomes like a new aristocracy. Eventually society collapses and the government officials and the inevitable dictator seeks refuge in a capitalist nation.

If it’s a shitpost fine, sorry to bite your head off. But you see this shit everywhere. I’m not a fucking communist, but I goddamned bothered to find out what the fuck it was all about.

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So called Communist States that have existed are simple war-time economies. They depended on deploying all possible resources on single effort.
It is effective on short term, but will inevitably fail when fuel - people's dedication runs out.
Capitalism runs on greed, and that is practically endless resource.

If there’s a state involved, that’s socialism dude.

>barely enough to eat, clothing and keeping you strong enough to work for your new slaveowner)
plus free primary, secondary and tertiary education, healthcare, housing, pensions and vacation. communist era Yugoslavia, Russia, China, were infinitely better than preceding systems

>It's not real communism part 2: electric boogaloo

>Communist
>working economy
You can only choose 1

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All the money goes to the ultra small elite and everyone starves because the ability to act as their own agent is removed.

>So any means of transaction would be through a Barter System, right
or through, you know, money
>Okay so what about people who can't contribute?
depends on what stage of communism you mean and also what form of communist ideology you're asking about

I leaned more towards a real-world case.
As meme as it sounds, pure communism has not, and will not ever be tried. It requires a fundamental destruction and rebuilding of civilization (and human nature) as we know it.

Central power is socialism. Communism is no central power.

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>any system that would essentially punish those who are stronger, bigger, more capable, smarter working out EVER
Capitalism is unfair and flawed but those that are most capable are actually incentivized to achieve more and thus that society accomplishes more and continues rather than stagnates. I don't see how communism could ever work, especially if it's not in a super small, utterly homogeneous community.

Even just the fact that half of the population is distinctly physically weaker WRT strength and speed makes this obvious.

>Explain in simple terms how a Communist economy works
It doesn't, Russia still has millions of people waiting for delivery of their ladas ordered in 70s and 80s :)

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It doesn't work. that's why china went full capitalist, while russia became russian yakuza black market trade.

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It’s not a matter of “trying” it. It’s a matter of getting there in the first place. Which is probably fucking impossible. There were shitloads of jokes in the USSR that had the whole “maybe not us, maybe not our children, maybe not our children’s children, but one glorious day...” Not to mention the idea of getting that shit to work was the carrot: “Hey, y’all are taking it in that ass right now, but once we get this shit rolling everybody’ll be in paradise.” As I said before, the closest any of those assholes got was probably the Khmer Rouge. They decided to skip the whole socialist state thing and go straight to an agrarian communist society. Their plan was to murder anybody who was educated in any way, work any adult to death in the fields, and raise the kids (who didn’t know any better) as stone cold commie killers to enforce the thing (Mao did a similar thing with the Red Guard during the Cultural Revolution). They managed to kill off 25% of their population and still couldn’t pull it off. So, there’s not really much point in talking about examples of a communist state since there aren’t any. Just socialist states run by communist parties.

Capitalism is inherently defeatist since it becomes parasitic in a few generations. Marxs critique of degrading the common worker to the most animalistic, basic substance possible is what has happened in capitalistic countries where bankers decry in horror the rising wage of a common laborer, and demand instant open borders for compensation.

IT was early capitalism that created the conditions for the first communist revolts.

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The US military is the closest thing the world has to communism. Everyone gets adequate healthcare, food and housing at the minimum. A cook and clerk will also get paid the same paycheck as someone who operates a nuclear reactor.

You don't get paid by the hour, so your leaders don't give a shit about things being accomplished efficiently as you get paid the same per month regardless. Only when deadlines start approaching or quotas aren't met do leaders gove a fuck and then your lives are dedicated more and more to work whether you would like to go home or not. It is not uncommon to be resettled for the good of the state. The whole system would fall apart of there wasn't some repression of rights, expression, and misguided sense of patriotism and indoctrination.

The government owns everything.
You own nothing. Not even yourself.

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Yup

The idea behind communism is that it's implemented when there's a high level of technology in the means of production and overwhelming immense wealth after capitalism has done its thing

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Well it certainly works more than communism has ever managed. If not that then what system do you think is better?

>closest thing
Money: check
Class: check (rank and enlisted vs officer)
State: check (it’s fucking run by the state)
Each giving according to his ability and taking according to his need: Not even close.
So, no. Nothing at all like a communist society.

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They get to do whatever on the weekends for the most part and they can blow their money on whatever as well. But yes, you're pretty much right.

>8" Tall Girl
Will you also be shrunken?

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communism don't drive the human spirit to have higher ambitions, that in the long run bring with progress to our society

we all want to be better than the next one (have a better house, a better car, a better bitch), even if you don't admitted most of us dreams of being a millionaire and live a easy life

Communism expect that we get all our fulfillment just with from the labor and "producing "things for the sake of our survival.
that sadly isn't enough for us so is destine to fail

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