2nd Amendment

The founding fathers actually intended for OP to kill himself with a gun like that. Prove me wrong, 1 post by this id. Sage btw.

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Black powder muzzle-loaders are allowed in the UK, the rules on those are surprisingly lenient.
How is that relevant? Simple; If that's allowed in the UK then it is NOT good enough to defend yourself, your family or your rights.

So that can't where the 2nd amendment ends.

>I guess I'll go buy me a grapeshot cannon then

Save it for when they stack up outside your door

>prove me wrong

The purpose of the amendment is to arm the citizens against the government in case it gets tyrannical.

It is not a law passed for fun or for someone to enjoy shooting their guns, they wanted people to be as armed as the government, and that includes all advancements in firearms.

Why do people not understand this?

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The intent of the 2nd Amendment was for the allowance of a citizen military force that could challenge the government.
It unconscionable that they've taken automatic weapons and other such hardware from us.

That's right, the same kind the military owns. The military primarily used muskets back then. We should have the same weapons as they do now.

Uh look sweaty faggot the 1st ammendment didn't cover the internet either.

Very funny
Not French, I’m an American ex pat
Those fucking things didn’t work worth dick
Civilians never had access to cannons

The second the second amendment allows for the building of militias, shit you could even draft or employ a foreign army to fight for you

You mean like the Foriegn Legion?

civilian ships had cannons, same with militiamen. they had plenty of artillery. pretty obvious.

They overthrew their government with the same weaponry (including artillery) that their government had. They intended US citizens to always be able to do the same. There. You’re proved wrong.

THIS

The founders meant for the Constitution to be a living document retard, the first thing Madison or Hamilton would say if we revived them is why the fuck we’ve made so few amendments in the past 232 years

>11 rounds
>20 seconds
still so fucking slow compared to an automatic

SAGE is SAGED in the 2nd SAGE

>put "sage" in all fields to not bump a thread

they were for killing faggots such as yourself, and it is our duty to do so

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>Civilians never had access to cannons
yes they did, and howitzers. you can own a tank if you want today...

>living document
Bullshit. Know why? They expected a revolution about every 60 years since they knew things would get fucked up.

Ok why can’t I buy a missile cruiser? Or a thermonuclear warhead for that matter?

>living document

Jesus Christ, Frenchy no it fucking isn't. Lafayette and Rochambeu weep right now at your cuckoldry

because you're a simp and can't into nuclear fission. also you live in Europe.

And you assume they'd be in a hurry to erode the rights of the citizens despite being all about the opposite you stupid shit.

>civilians never had access to cannons
Your knowledge of US history sucks. Now fuck off to go read about the battles Lexington and Concord.

Privately owned warships, complete with cannon.

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Ok great you have one tank and the government has hundreds of thousands

>describes self as ex pat
You willingly lost the chance to have an opinion that matters then. Ironically you fled to the country known for surrendering. You're like a double cheese eating surrender monkey.

you don't want to get shot with that thing it would be worse than a modern gun

>223573840
prove it

your point was that we can't and haven't owned them, not that they're ineffective. are you a nigger or a bot?

Yes, and the television should be banned like the radio....

Do you have a license for the firearm
Your not american so why do you own such a vile weapon

Je ne suis pas une grenouille stupides americains

Yes they did. The entire point of Lexington & Concord (The first battle of the Revolutionary War) was to confiscate privately owned militia cannon.

Privately owned cannons were literally what started America.

Why do you tell us this on the internet using a computer with word processing capability? If you really believe antique technology is the end goal of this intention then you should write up your statement on parchment with a quill pen and ink. Then ask the local town crier to read your pamphlet in the public square (except on Sundays when you must be in church).

>prove me wrong
Okay.
Straight from the founders themselves.

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You know they intended this to be a white European country right?

you're still forced to speak my language to do anything in this world cuck kek

Nice denix replica faggot

France has existed for much longer than the US and will keep existing long after America is plunged into endless civil strife

>hundreds of thousands of tanks vs. poor red neck farmers

See Vietnam...the war which we had to step in to save you frogs, and you are so fond of saying we lost

Kalthoff repeater. Look it up. Then kys for making this thread.

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OP is a faggot. Prove me wrong. Also sage.

ok

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You forgot the Cookson repeater, which used the Lorenzoni System.

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Thomas Jefferson suggested a cycle of every 19 years. When it comes to The Bill of Rights though.

Expand the 1st / 2nd / 3rd / 4th

Can't supercede the original papers though, but work just fine under them.

1.00 Vs. 0.999999999 - can't supercede, but extremely close.

Ugh. These threads are so fucking stupid. CIA/NSA/ATF is working hard on the weekends for jinky-ass pay to sublime the misinformation.

You fuckers trying so hard. You realize you only make those more aware of your dumb-ass trickery and plan to be ready for the civil war upcoming, right? "Oh, but we have nukes and drones" Oh, I'm sure you do. I'm sure you fuckers are so ready to kill many lives in the name of some dumb-ass moralfag obligation to your kikey overlords. Sadly. You won't mass-extinct lives just because many won't convert to to your logic and flawed ideology. I really hope you push more people over the edge to attack the government and overthrow it. You have become too powerful, and too powerful tends to have seeping sides of flaws and failures with it. You will realize your demise and will ultimately give up or die. People tend to live their lives free of the shackles of oppression. One way or another you will not keep those down for long.

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You're right. They thought technology would completely halt after they signed off on the 2A.

Both

oh you're doing great. i look forward to "France's" future. meanwhile, since we're armed, we can change ours. maybe it won't be the united states, but it will never be france.

Sure why not

You have to prove your point dumbass slide thread frogget

Then why didn't they say that?

Cruise missels

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France exists now? How so? Better hurry up and make that sammich Frenchy, before I shoot you

Citizens are allowed to have the best modern option. Muskets were the most advanced firearm back then. Today they're not.

Look all I’m saying is that if the founders saw how fucked up America has gotten with all these mass shootings with weapons or war they’d be ardent gun control activists (except maybe Jefferson but fuck that guy)

And the only thing they intended to protect with the 1st amendment was the printing press.
Not typewriters, not the telephone, not photocopiers, and not the internet.

And canons too.

>223574138
>WE NEED THE ABILITY TO FORM MILITIAS.

Most of you dumb 2A niggers would ENLIST in the military oppressing the people.

If every person who did not have a semi auto rifle, the government would have drones, warships, artillery, tanks, APCs, and black budget weaponry you can't even imagine. You're all dead. You cant form a militia. Its too late. Your guns are just rooty tooty point and shooty toys to protect yourselves from robbery, commit suicide, and murder people with.

Stop with the bullshit that you will form a militia - you're retarded if you think that is going to work.

I know right? English is the best language for sure

>why don’t people understand this?
Who controls education?

Then the government can only have them too

Read the Federalist Papers. The spirit and intent of the entire Bill of Rights is well defined them. Then neck yourself.

>404 no arguments found
eat shit niggerfaggot

I don’t work for the CIA but it would probably be a kickass job tho

yeah even if we had jets and artillery it is no match for the ufo technology they have kept secret for decades.

>Ironically you fled to the country known for surrendering. You're like a double cheese eating surrender monkey.
I'm American but I fucking HATE this narrative OP is some faggot expat, not French, the narrative of the french being cowards and cheese eating surrender monkeys comes from a literal Zionist jew who was pissed the French wouldn't get involved in some ME bullshit, the French have a long and noble military history and have been some of our best friends. Fuck anyone expat or kike who tries to divide.

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???

Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)

He who gives his freedom for safety gets none of them. - Thomas Jefferson

I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery. Thomas Jefferson

I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy. John Adams

- not a founding father (obviously)
If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. - George Orwell.

wisdomquotes.com/liberty-safety-benjamin-franklin/

what? All you know is Thomas Jefferson?

You have nothing to say about America, you lost that right when we saved you from speaking German twice in the last century. Now go to to Normandy and put some flowers on some real mens graves you pusillanimous cocksucking retard

Reichwein revolver, invented in 1597.
Eat me.

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Oui monsieur, I’ll get right on that

That's the only firearm the founders intended the government to have.

Fun fact, at the time of the Civil War, the government had weapons like those, and civilians had Henry Repeating Rifles. In fact, civilian arms outpaced government arms up until the 1920s when the Thompson Machine Gun was regulated because of muh gangsters. Muh gangsters still got to have them, but normal people couldn't all of a sudden.

This

or a puckle gun

People will just go on shooting sprees with a dozen flintlockes.

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>Civilians never had access to cannons
lmao retard

Because you are the lowest form of a kike

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Ok, fair enough why can't I own and carry one of those in Washington DC then?

What sort of weapons did the military have during that time?

Thanks man, France has a proud history of military conquest, it would’ve been the dominate power in Europe if Napoleon didn’t invade Russia

kek.
insane if true.

(____DILATION____)

You can tho, never hear of a private army?

They don't have a single piece of armored equipment that I can't pierce you silly bitch

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You can start with me first, My family is Norman, descended from Hamundr. We've been raping you fucks for about a thousand years

Fuck off